Who brings a 4-year-old along when they're going to a strip club?
Hey, drive around any major city in the US after say 2 or 3am and you can see toddlers standing on street corners while their parents are abusing crack or meth. It brings new meaning to the old public service announcements in the early 1980's. "It's 10pm. Do you know where your children are?"
Every now and then some fool leaves their child locked in a car during high summer temperatures and then discover their child dead! It's a damn shame when parents are arrested for leaving their kids in the car for over an hour while they play blackjack in a casino, etc.
"...encouraging a minor child to be in need of supervision", that's one way of putting it. Child endangerment is what we call it in New York State.
I thought that was a pretty damn strange way to phrase the charge.
I wonder who gets to come up with those?
You're right, drucifer, that's one clunky piece of legal phrasing.
If he hadn't walked into a strip club, this wouldn't have made the news anywhere. This kind of thing happens all the time, every day, and somehow, we manage. Only the titilation factor of the strip club makes this news. ANd people can get all shocked and indignant when they themselves have probably lost track of their kids, or done something just as stupid. And what's going to happen to him in a strip club? He'll see a boob? If the kid is three, it wasn't that long ago that those were his main food source.
Leaving the door unlocked was the part that made it bad parenting. But if you locked everyone up that has done that, well, most parents would be in jail.
Somehow, we manage to grow up.
What an idiot?!
Leaving the door unlocked was the part that made it bad parenting.
Uh...I think leaving a 3/4 year old unattended in a car next to a four lane road in a cold rain and probably in a not so good part of town is bad parenting. Actually, any "one" of those things I listed would be bad parenting. Thank goodness we are not reading that the kid was stolen by some child porn sex ring or hit by a passing car is the only good news about this story. Better go a litte further right, Centrist.
i hope the monsters eat that dad.
I take it you're not a parent, Lufbrey. :)
All parents make boneheaded mistakes. Parenting is a 24/7 profession and nobody bats 1000. If he'd wandered into a hardware store instead of a strip club, people would not be so eager to jump on their high horses and condemn. If you start throwing people in jail for things like this, like Patty McFatPat suggests, the jails would soon be overflowing and there would be a lot of children without their parents. How is that better?
Oh, and Lufbrey, I think you, like many, have a wildly exaggerated notion of the dangerousness of the world, based mostly on sensationalist media news coverage and crime-based TV shows. Yes, this was a very bad thing that the man did, and the highway was the real danger here, not the strip club. But every parent makes at least one deeply stupid decision sooner or later.
Note, by the way, how eager people were to conclude that the father went into the strip club, even though the story says no such thing. He might have parked there and gone someplace else.
Yes, the father should be given a stiff fine and a severe reprimand, and possibly a little community service. But putting him in jil would just deprive a small boy of his father.
Yes, the father should be given a stiff fine and a severe reprimand, and possibly a little community service. But putting him in jil would just deprive a small boy of his father.
Yes I am a parent and yes I do make mistakes, but that has nothing to do with my comment to you. You said:
Leaving the door unlocked was the part that made it bad parenting.
And my point was that leaving the child unattended in a car (with dangers lurking) is bad parenting - not the fact he didn't lock the doors! Stick with the debate at hand.
Woops. My first quote above that you said ("yes, the father should...) I agree with.
Well, Lufbrey, I'm curious as to how you've menaged to parent without leaving your child unattended, ever. Leaving your child alone in a locked car (with childproof locks, of course!) is less than ideal, but I can see when it might be unavoidable for brief periods.
It's really no different than leaving them in a crib or playpen. It's just one with wheels. :)
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