Ahmadinejad Insists Iran Army Must Be Ready

What God is this? Not the same peaceful God that the majority of every person on this planet worships.

Welcome to Islam. Now, mind you, Islam is a religion of peace. As a matter of fact, the name Islam means "peace". It also means "submission." Peace- through submission to Allah. So, when you conquer the world and install Islamic law everywhere, you are bringing the world peace. When you forcibly convert people from Christianity, you are freeing them the bondage of "associationism" (i.e. the Trinity). In related matters, "shirk" (failing to do your Islamic duty by worshipping Allah) is a crime worse than "murder, rape, child molesting and genocide.".

Your local Muslim population may vary.

mis·con·cep·tion A mistaken thought, idea, or notion; a misunderstanding: had many misconceptions about the new tax program.

Breaking news: President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's version of religion isn't the one worshipped by over 1.3 Billion Muslims. He isn't the first to exploit religion, Bush does it all the time, and this won't stop by the end of 2006.

Another breaking news: Colonies used the excuse of God to eradicate all Native Americans.

Another breaking news: Colonies used the excuse of God to eradicate all Native Americans.

No, even aside from the overbroad use of the word "all", I'd say that it's more like colonies used the frequent excuse of "omgwtf savages in the woods they will come into our homes and barbequeue our children!!!" And that was a reasonable concern at the time. Now, true, the colonies didn't really do much of anything to assuage such concerns in a nonviolent fashion, which probably encouraged the situation, but... In selected other cases, it was something more like "we want the Cherokee nations' land for gold" (cf. Trail of Tears).

Breaking news: President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's version of religion isn't the one worshipped by over 1.3 Billion Muslims.

Of course, your local Muslim population may vary.

However, when man is left to "interpret" (skew) the Word, he effectively shames what it was originally intended to do.

Excellent point.

I think skew is the perfect word to describe what is going on.

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HA!! Touche!

Excellent point, finally!!! Enough with the double standards!

I agree with this. Weapons for all. Quicken the scorched Earth; boil the seas. Let's reset this planet. Do her the favor, shall we?

I think it is rather two faced to say Iran can't have nuclear weapons when the rest of us do.

I think it's crazy to assume this nation that's been doing nothing but spewing venomous rhetoric out of their mouths should have nuclear weapons. Put a stable regime in there that can act like normal human beings and not religious zealots and we'll talk.

I think using nukes ourselves is an awful idea. However bullying? Tell me have you been paying attention to what is going on in Iran. They have been given more than enough chances to talk it out and help to decide their own outcome. But they continue with the rhetoric about how anyone who dares to fight them will be destroyed, didn't we hear that a couple years ago maybe there is a middle east echo.

It looks and sounds like they are digging their own grave. I think its almost time for a new deck of cards to be printed out.

We invented them and use them for peacekeeping. They want them to destroy an entire nation and its race. Able to draw a contrast here?

I have said this on the vine once, and I will say it again. God is not to blame, but the followers who lack common sense should be held wholly accountable.

I fear God has lost all meaning in the "civilized" world. Whatever side you stand God is used in vain for countless unspeakable acts.

Thus the reason why a lot of people are turned off by religion. Being a Christian myself, it's good to jump outside of your shoes to take a good look at the real reason why people are so turned off by religion. That includes a really good friend of mine of twelve years and we have intense, yet tasteful, discussions.

The Bible also mentions that religion is to join under God/Christ but can also be wielded like a sword.

We're seeing that grow with time and I personaly feel that it's no coincidence.

I reported your comment as inflammatory, but I thought about it before I did so. In the end, you seem to be too intent upon pissing people off and not intent enough upon providing any sort of basis for your statements for me to just let it slide.

Let's cut the bull@!$%#. Religion helped create society, and now religion is helping destroy society. Religion was created for greed, and power. Religion was created to control the masses.

This is the one that did it for me. Quite frankly (and as someone who doesn't have religion) I don't think i can stand behind this statement. Society isn't being destroyed, but if it were I don't think you could point a finger at Religion and assume that you might cure societies ills by pinning the blame on one entity. Society is @!$%#ed up, period. There are a lot of reasons for this, some of them are "sometimes" related to Religion. Many of them are not related to Religion at all.

(I would argue that many of societies ills arise from blanket statements about who is to blame for societies ills.)

You could argue against Religion in a way that I wouldn't have flagged as inflammatory. I just don't think you've managed to do it.

Brian, thanks for your honesty and comments.

It's not playing the blame game, it's playing the reality game. I mean besides Iceland and Switzerland, seriously, aren't you a tiny bit pessimistic from time to time (about religion)?

I can't fully describe religion as a work of evil, and that we need to dump it. Obviously that will never happen. But you must acknowledge that this constant strain of exploitation must stop. Religion is indeed under attack. It is under attack by the few idiots who are ruining it for the masses, but the idiots continue to die and be reborn. So essentially religion is helping destroy society. Not all of religion, but many aspects of it.

Please do not view me as a full blown atheist, since I used to be Muslim. I have been agnostic for over a decade now.

In Africa, militants fight with other rebels, rape the women, kill the children, and then take off praising their religion, whether it's Christianity, Islam, or etc. You can't be a Muslim if you're gonna kill a bunch of innocents, rape women, then justify your actions for the good of religion, same for the other side.

My goal with every comments I make on newsvine is NOT to piss off people, but to give people the ability to indirectly feel whatever emotion I speak of to fully understand where I'm coming from with my words. Sure, I use fallacies, weird arguments and so on, but the points do get across.

Too often does a person tries to explain their own feelings to another without the crowd empathizing since they are not affected by the speech directly.

People in the middle east are bitter. They're very bitter. How bitter are they? Let me explain it in a way that most common non-middle-easterners can understand.

Imagine you walk back to your house and you catch your wife cheating. Bitter Level 1

Then you realize that she cheating with your best friend. Bitter Level 2

Then you notice that your freaking sister is there too, and that they had a threesome. Bitter Level 3

Also, your exgf is videotaping the whole ordeal. Super bitter level 4.

Can you visualize that in your head? I'm talking super-pissed-off I hate the planet bitter.

ONCE you realize that, the situation makes a lot more sense. People are bitter over there because they can't share their views with honesty. Moderate view of religion is viewed as evil. Women are treated as 2nd class citizens, and can't seem to do anything about it. Why do you think it was okay for people to protest and burn buildings over the cartoons, but not over their own govts?

Middle Easterners are also bitter because they are exploited by the West. The West control them, they have military bases all over. They own all the nukes and tell others not to have them themselves (unless they're Jews).

How much more explaining do I have to do?

It is only AFTER you understand the WHY is that we can debate over the HOW we can fix the situation.

For example, I like to restate the obvious that the state of Israel is only about 50 years old, that at the time it did not benefit the region, but only the Jews and the Europeans who did not want the Jews anymore. Now why the hell do I mention that? Do I mention that to inflame you? To piss you off? No! I do it to REMIND you WHY we are WHERE we are today. The root of the problem of Palestinians and Israel, the origin of the problem is not the current lunatics. Sure, they're problematic, but they are not the origin of this madness. The root of this dates back to post WW2 when whiteys thought about their own interests first as opposed to respecting people living in the middle east.

You're "a little" out-of-line, Zaki and I wish you'd made your comments OUTSIDE of mine.

You can't be a Muslim if you're gonna kill a bunch of innocents, rape women, then justify your actions for the good of religion

Man have you ever BEEN to Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc???

As far as killing innocents (allah likes to call them "infidels"), you get a golden ticket to heaven with a bunch of virgins (who have bathed!)!!! What a deal, eh!?

Radical islam is very much about these things you've mentioned. Murder, defiling women, and doing it all in the name of "allah".

Dude I just realized it's kinda like Rappers praising Jesus while doing drugs and pimpin hos...but to a whole new level.

As far as ever been to afghanistan, i'm originally from there although i grew up in France and now live in the states for almost a decade.

Radical islam is very much about these things you've mentioned. Murder, defiling women, and doing it all in the name of "allah".

(I know !) Why do you think I brought these things up? damn lunatics exploiting Islam for their own political crazy agendas. And unless we act soon, they're going to destroy the credibility of religion and then on to society (slippery slope fallacy)

I know people wished more muslims denounce these atrocities, but seriously, if you're living in that region and said out loud to a crowd that "Hey man, those crazy americans aren't that bad, stop burning that Israel Flag or even I like Danish pastries", you'd probably get killed. It's a damn dilemna!

No joke... so what's the solution?

the solution is simple yet complex. Terrorism is easily justified by lunatics because they are able to perceive themselves as heroes.

Education and poverty. I do not believe in a short-term "let's smoke em out" way to get rid of Terrorists. It just simply isn't going to work. Every terrorist you kill, you create 3. Iraq was supposed to head towards the stop of the war on terror, not to create a new one!

The current generation of terrorists, I'm going to let the govt handle that, even though they are horrible at it. What we must do is stop the next generation of terrorists. We must stop the Mullahs who preach for terrorism. We must teach the kids in the mosque the real moderate *sane* way of Islam as opposed to the fundamentalist *insane* one. I've said it before that it is extremely easy to influence a child in his youth into the "dark side". They are poor, they have no education, and anybody that offers them "something to do with their lives", even though it means death & destruction, they will do it. Yes, I'm talking a 20-30years war on exploitation.

Good point. Do you really believe it will be possible to change the course of hundreds of years of Islamic culture though?

dude we have to. It was long overdue. The Catholics have a Pope that speaks on their behalf. Islam does not have that, so every Bob Smith (well Ahmad Smith) can give his own crazy wacky view of the religion, and there's no super huge respected figurehead that keeps the calm. I'm not saying Islam needs a new living prophet, but it needs reform. Christianity had their reform. Islam hasn't. Now is the time.

There's so much ignorance within the masses, and it pisses me off. Bin Laden calls for a fatwa on Americans. First of all, only Muslim scholars/Mullahs can issue fatwas! Who the @!$%# is he to make up his own laws? And nobody calls him up on that. Nobody says "dude, you can't issue a fatwa, you're not a Mullah". Besides, he can't justify @!$%# because he attacks innocents. Innocents aren't the ones making foreign policies.

Nothing angers me more that the children that are caught in the middle. We need to teach the youth the good side of Life, so that they won't become the next generation of Terrorists.

Here's an insight. A lot of terrorists blow themselves up because they are promised 72 virgins up there (won't happen).

So...essentially they are killing themselves because they want sex? ;)

Boom, that's another point nobody mentions. They're just a bunch of sexually frustrated guys. Maybe if they got married and worry more about their family and childrens, they'd be less terrorists (yes I know the fact that some married men do carry terrorism).

sexually frustrated group of guys + lack of education + poverty + exploitation of religion = terrorism

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the Terrorism Equation.

And why wouldn't they continue to exploit the Religion even "if" there were someone to oversee it?

Catholicism has several branches that are pretty screwed up in their views and that do not have the blessing of the Pope. (The Catholic League is an example, as is that sect that Mel Gibson's dad was a member of.)