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Attacks on Baghdad Green Zone
WHAT'S THE GREEN ZONE? Also called the International Zone, it's the heavily protected area in central Baghdad that holds the U.S. and British embassies, the Iraqi parliament and prime minister's office.
OPEN TO ATTACK: A U.N. report in June said insurgents had bombarded the area with rockets and mortar fire more than 80 times since March.
CASUALTIES: Nearly 30 people have been reportedly killed in the barrages.
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{"commentId":144750,"authorDomain":"miasma"}
Bill O'Reilly: Yeah, but with all due respect, there were atrocities in Vietnam, there were atrocities in World War Two --
Clark: Yes, and they were found, and they were punished.
O'Reilly: -- in World War One, in the Civil War, and the Revolutionary War.
Clark: They were not condoned by the chain of command.
O'Reilly: Yes they were!
Clark: No they weren't.
O'Reilly: Lt. Calley, and Medina in Vietnam.
Clark: They were not condoned by the chain of command, those guys were court-martialed.
O'Reilly: You know -- listen, with all due respect --
Clark: And let me explain something. You go all the way up the chain of command --
O'Reilly: General! You need to look at the Malmedy massacre in World War Two, and the 82nd Airborne who did it!
So it's official. Bill O'Reilly says sh*t happens. (Never mind that he confused the Malmedy massacre of Americans to some scene he remembers from 'Saving Private Ryan').
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- 3 votes
#2 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 12:34 PM EDT{"commentId":144772,"authorDomain":"tbone"}
{"commentId":144923,"authorDomain":"pwp"}
He makes outrageous claims and that's why people watch him. I hope very feel people in his viewing audience takes what he says seriously. He's an actor.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":144927,"authorDomain":"tbone"}
{"commentId":145098,"authorDomain":"pwp"}
He has the right to say whatever he wants. He also has the right to be on TV. Its my hope that people do not take him seriously.
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{"commentId":144762,"authorDomain":"cjlewis"}
Imagine if this were to happen in the US where Midd East soldiers accidentally killed 5 kids. Imagine what would happen and what our population would do. Sick.
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- 8 votes
#3 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 12:42 PM EDT{"commentId":144776,"authorDomain":"tbone"}
{"commentId":144904,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}
war is no longer hell.. it is just sound bites on the news.. I think the news should be forced to show pictures like this so people really understand what it means to remove a evil dictator from power.
people are so sanitised from this. If you support the war, you should have to watch it.
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- 11 votes
#5 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 1:58 PM EDT{"commentId":144909,"authorDomain":"tbone"}
{"commentId":144916,"authorDomain":"wolfanoz"}
Then again, the media never shows all the good things happening there either like our troops building new mosques and schools for everyone.
And I do know this because I have family and friends there. :)
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":144928,"authorDomain":"pwp"}
Its true that these things happened in every war, but were those wars worth fighting?
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":144930,"authorDomain":"tbone"}
{"commentId":144959,"authorDomain":"se7en"}
Equating Iraq with Nazi Germany is ridiculous. Iraq is not trying to take over the world and has not killed 6 million Jews. What are you trying to say? Iraq = Nazi Germany, ergo this war is worth it?
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- 13 votes
{"commentId":145099,"authorDomain":"pwp"}
TBone,
Obviously I was indicating that some wars are and others aren't. Clearly WWII was, IMHO.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":144955,"authorDomain":"se7en"}
Equating Iraq with Nazi Germany is ridiculous. Iraq is not trying to take over the world and has not killed 6 million Jews. What are you trying to say? Iraq = Nazi Germany, ergo this war is worth it?
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- 3 votes
#6 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 2:21 PM EDT{"commentId":144958,"authorDomain":"tbone"}
{"commentId":145090,"authorDomain":"luisf"}
The images are tough to see, but we have to see whats really going on over there. The news is so "sugar coated" that it doesn't even allow these kind of images on TV. Have any of you ever seen the Iraqi news?, now thats raw news.
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- 1 vote
#7 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 3:39 PM EDT{"commentId":145124,"authorDomain":"nowell"}
The images are raw, and troubling. But do I want the truth, or some polished, mass-marketed drivel that's spoon-fed to "sensitive" Americans? I would always choose the former, no matter how troubling. Despite the lack of a "warning," I thank you for this dose of reality. The problem with this country is that we're kept in the dark. As long as we're getting paid more, have more toys, or more televised distractions, we're happy in ignorance. "Give me liberty, or give me an iPod" is the new rallying cry, and it sickens me to the core.
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- 7 votes
#8 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 4:05 PM EDT{"commentId":145176,"authorDomain":"tbone"}
{"commentId":145184,"authorDomain":"daweb"}
Gotta say that I can see more and more of these types of accusations coming out. Particularly if the Insurgents (Terrorists) realize that these are doing more to help them then anything else they have tried. The real issue will be determining which of them if any of them are even real.
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- 1 vote
#10 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 4:35 PM EDT{"commentId":145240,"authorDomain":"cheeto"}
I don't suppose that we could hope that these types of crossfire incidents would encourage the innocents to rat out the insurgents who are living next door.
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#11 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 5:07 PM EDT{"commentId":145277,"authorDomain":"ditto"}
Somehow the story is getting lost among the rhetoric in this thread. This is all about how the Iraqis are enraged by the misconduct of a tiny minority of US Soldiers in the field. I'll tell you all what really angers me about all this. They seem perfectly content to condemn the US and yet not a word about the insurgents. Those murderous bastards are killing hundreds of innocent Iraqis every day and yet somehow they are not to be condemned? Roadside bombs that kill more bystanders than their intended targets, suicide bombers in marketplaces, men rounded up and beheaded in the desert, entire families wiped out because one of them dared to try to put food on the table for his or her children, this list could go on and on. I am not a supporter of the war but i do support the men and women whose lives are on the line every day. If Iraqis showed as much anger at the insurgency as they do for these few US soldiers who commit these atrocities the insurgency would not find a safe haven among them and would ultimately fade away. Can you hear their silence? It's deafening.
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- 1 vote
#12 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 5:26 PM EDT{"commentId":145293,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
{"commentId":145360,"authorDomain":"stephan"}
Why are we condemning these Marines already? Don't they have the right to a military trial where they have to be proven guilty?
The 3/1 is a distinguished unit and has a rich history. It's sad that the acts of a few can do so much to tarnish the image of an entire country.
What I still don't understand is the outrage that this has caused in Iraq, yet car bombs seem to do nothing. People die, police show up, people clean up, and life resumes. No one complains (at least from what we see and read in the paper). You would think that if people are outraged enough over death, they would start turning people in.
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#13 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 6:12 PM EDT{"commentId":145426,"authorDomain":"zaki"}
Why do you guys think the war in Vietnam ended? It is when the American people saw the atrocities on their television that they understood the reality of this, and pushed for the end of the war, in a very hard-line demanding way.
Why do you think the American people let this Iraq war go on for so long? They don't show anything on Cable News. They show burning cars here and there, and a few dying Iraqis. I'm sadden to say, but on a majority level, Americans do not care about injured Iraqis. But, show them the pictures and videos of the tens of thousands of soldiers who have lost limbs, and suddenly their feelings are different.
ps. if you think those pictures are disturbing, I suggest you watch Al-Jazeera for more than 5 minutes, then you'll see the real dark side of war.
pps. Anybody that supports this war in Iraq needs to go to DC and see the thousands of dead soldiers' tombs and pay your respects.
ppps. Supporting a war is all fun and games when you're not a soldier. And people make fun of Michael Moore. Why, because he went to DC with a military recruiter, to get congressmen to enlist their children in the army? If you support this war so much, time to enlist buddy.
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- 4 votes
#14 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 7:03 PM EDT{"commentId":145514,"authorDomain":"stephan"}
What do you mean the Vietnam war ended when Americans saw the atrocities on television? If you are referring to the My Lai massacre, then you are 7 years off. My Lai occurred in 1968, yet Vietnam ended in 1975.
If you are referring to the execution of 34 police officers by a suspected NLF officer in 1968, then yes, that helped sway opinion about the war. However, that was an event that did not involve American troops directly.
As far as why the war ended, you have to look no further than the Fullbright Hearings. John Kerry's testimony of the atrocities that took place in that country had some impact on the outcome, but it was the hearings as a whole that helped bring the war to end (that and the cutting off of funds to the South Vietnamese government).
You state that Americans don't care about injured or killed Iraqis. I have three responses to that.
- Yes, some of us do care.
- It doesn't seem like to me that Iraqis care about injured or killed Americans. A very good friend of mine was killed protecting a food delivery truck for the Iraqi people about a month after the war officially ended. Delivering food. For Iraqis. And, it was in a town that had suffered some of the worst atrocities under Saddam's regime
- Iraqis don't care about injured or killed Iraqis. Is this not obvious by the fact that we are seeing more and more car bombs and attacks on civilians? It's a big deal for Americans to kill Iraqis, but Iraqi on Iraqi violence is ok?
I have been to DC and paid my respects and I will continue to pay them. What about soldiers who support the war? Funny, Michael Moore didn't interview them.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":145600,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
{"commentId":145463,"authorDomain":"MGDasef"}
I feel so bad for the troops who are doing their best to follow the rules and to help the Iraqis establish a new government.
It would be great if all our men and women over in Iraq were all morally upstanding and upstanding for truth and right.
Unfotunately, when your friends are being blown up by roadside bombs, it's hard to maintain perspective.
Those that do should be lauded and applauded. Bless them. Those that decide that killing civilian children or torturing prisoners in Abu Ghraib are not the people we want in our military. If SOME of the soldiers have done wrong then it is incumbent on the military and our government to say so forcefully. No coverups, no excuses. Get rid of the bad apples as they are putting all the good guys in harm's way.
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#15 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 7:37 PM EDT{"commentId":145506,"authorDomain":"hallo"}
{"commentId":145496,"authorDomain":"walketim"}
Impeach Bush NOW...
{"commentId":145496,"threadId":"28359","contentId":"240027","authorDomain":"walketim"}
- 1 vote
#16 - Fri Jun 2, 2006 8:00 PM EDT{"commentId":145625,"authorDomain":"kirstenspitzner"}
I agree, if you're going to do the (war) crime you ought to do the time.
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