Man Gives Up Everest Climb for Rescue

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{"commentId":153244,"authorDomain":"tj"}

Great story for the positive-news file! A great man here with his priorities in order. Don't forget how many years of planning, training, preparation and expenses go into putting your feet on Everest.

"Oh yeah, it was worth it," he said. "You can always go back to the summit but you only have one life to live. If we had left the man to die, that would have always been on my mind ... How could you live with yourself?"

Well Done, Daniel Mazur!!

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  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 5:18 PM EDT
{"commentId":153275,"authorDomain":"a3dmofo"}

Ya, we've got to get the AP feed working with the positive-news tag!

Amazing story.

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  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 5:38 PM EDT
{"commentId":153619,"authorDomain":"tang"}

tag added ;)

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  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 9:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":153760,"authorDomain":"a3dmofo"}

Nice! Thanks Calvin!

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#1.3 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 11:39 PM EDT
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{"commentId":153319,"authorDomain":"wolfanoz"}

God bless this man. I hope he earned his ticket from Christ for this alone.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 6:00 PM EDT
{"commentId":153401,"authorDomain":"rhinecyrus"}

He's an atheist.

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  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 6:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":153428,"authorDomain":"super-structure"}

Off-topic: I didn't think you could actually earn salvation, but I suppose that's what makes me a Calvinist.

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#2.2 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 6:56 PM EDT
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{"commentId":153325,"authorDomain":"gzirra"}

Great story. Three cheers for Mr. Mazur!

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Reply#3 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 6:03 PM EDT
{"commentId":153342,"authorDomain":"acoolie"}

I thought this story would be about David Sharp and Mark Inglis. David Sharp also recently died on Everest and over 40 different parties passed him on their way to the top. Mark Inglis (A man who has lost two limbs in an Everest rescue of himself) was among the 40 climbers.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 6:12 PM EDT
{"commentId":153350,"authorDomain":"rvelez"}

That is great, lead by example.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 6:18 PM EDT
{"commentId":154101,"authorDomain":"jamesmirick"}

The only useful thing I learned in the Army, one of my sergeants told me: "the only kind of leadership that counts are the words 'follow me' ."

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#5.1 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 10:22 AM EDT
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{"commentId":153402,"authorDomain":"rhinecyrus"}

Good positive story. A good change from all the partisan demopublican bickering that has become the bane of Newsvine of late. Unfortunately, I doubt we'll see even 20 comments on this one.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 6:42 PM EDT
{"commentId":153635,"authorDomain":"DogHumpsMonkey"}

A guy I grew up with, Mike O'Brien and his brother were trying to summit to raise money for the Hereditary Disease Foundation last May. Mike fell into a crevasse and died. I'm glad to know that the people who were with him, including his brother Chris, never thought of leaving him behind. When they were unable to save him, they carried him off the mountain and Chris brought his brother home.

Some people, like those Italian climbers, have there priorities wrong. I'm proud to see Mr. Hall is not one of them. Good for you man.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 10:05 PM EDT
{"commentId":153884,"authorDomain":"zaki"}

The Frenzy Report approves of Mr. Mazur. Mr Hall owes you a nice bottle of wine.

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    Reply#8 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 2:15 AM EDT
    {"commentId":153969,"authorDomain":"mariachi77"}

    Lincoln Hall is an Australian.

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      Reply#9 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 6:33 AM EDT
      {"commentId":153984,"authorDomain":"greta"}

      Wow. I wonder what Hall's team has to say about this.

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        Reply#10 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 7:25 AM EDT
        {"commentId":153992,"authorDomain":"greta"}

        Wait a sec - they found him two hours from the summit and he was left there a day earlier, and they were able to radio his team back at base camp... sort of sounds like his team either left him on the way down, or passed him again on their way down and didn't bother to check on him.

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        #10.1 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 7:40 AM EDT
        {"commentId":154104,"authorDomain":"mstickel"}

        Either way it sounds like his team was filled with a bunch of idiots. The no gloves, no hat, no oxygen thing makes me believe that they took all of that from him as well. How can you take all of that and still not realize the person is alive?

        And the Italians? Don't get me started on those bastards.

        Mr. Mazur, a job well done.

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        • 2 votes
        #10.2 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 10:26 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":154229,"authorDomain":"bogen"}

        At 29,000 ft. you do some really werid stuff like take of your jacket and gloves, that wasn't Mr. Halls teams fault.

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        • 4 votes
        Reply#11 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 11:46 AM EDT
        {"commentId":154331,"authorDomain":"super-structure"}

        Yes, there are definitely mental and physical affects of low oxygen and altitude sickness that can make behaviour less clear.

        I suppose one possible explanation to those who wish to better understand is to imagine you are completely drunk somewhere in an jagged ice field while simultaneously having flu-like symptoms and are extremely fatigued. Now, make a life-altering judgement call. I think we're all playing Monday-morning quarterback in a sport we know nothing about to so easily judge the actions of others.

        This is a great story and I do feel that Mr. Mazur made the right decision. However, I also can't easily judge anyone who did not or could not make the same decision.

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        #11.1 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 12:41 PM EDT
        {"commentId":156588,"authorDomain":"mstickel"}

        You guys are right, I don't understand mountain climbing since I've not had the chance to do it. Thank you for bringing a little more information to the circumstance.

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        • 1 vote
        #11.2 - Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:40 AM EDT
        {"commentId":156600,"authorDomain":"mstickel"}

        You guys are right, I don't understand mountain climbing since I've not had the chance to do it. Thank you for bringing a little more information to the circumstance.

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          #11.3 - Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:48 AM EDT
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          {"commentId":154318,"authorDomain":"ooble"}

          What an amazing story. Glad to hear the man's OK.

          This also hit the positive-news tag: Canadian who helped fellow mountaineer on Everest never hesitated

          Happened just days after this one, I believe.

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          • 2 votes
          Reply#12 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 12:35 PM EDT
          {"commentId":154469,"authorDomain":"paddy"}

          It's the same incident, Ooble. Both rescued Lincoln Hall. I suppose Daniel was the guide, and the Canadian was one of those on his team.

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          • 1 vote
          #12.1 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 2:10 PM EDT
          {"commentId":154585,"authorDomain":"ooble"}

          Well bugger me, so it is. It mentions a British climber needing help days before this occurence in the article I linked to, which must've thrown me a little.

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          • 1 vote
          #12.2 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 3:19 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":154351,"authorDomain":"lufbery"}
          Mazur said Hall's first words to him were: "I imagine you are surprised to see me here."

          This should end up in famous quotes somewhere!

          I sure would like to read the book on this one...there are so many unanswered questions, this must be an interesting story.

          Also, I believe mountain climbers might need a code of ethics to swear into to become a mountain climber. There is obviously an ethics issue/confusion going on with regard to achieving their ultimate goal at "all" costs. In the same vane - there needs to be some control to keep yahoos from attempting the climb, failing and causing non-yahoos to have to forfeit their goal to save them (I am not saying Hall was a yahoo, 200 feet from the summit implies he wasn't).

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          • 3 votes
          Reply#13 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 12:54 PM EDT
          {"commentId":154934,"authorDomain":"rodo"}

          I agree with your comments Lufbery (#13), and am reminded of a camping trip I once took.

          I went camping during my college years with some buddies, and one of our tires went flat during the night (we had driven out to the boonies to setup camp), and we were having a hell of a time removing the last bolt from the tire (I had never changed a tire before, and apparently, the car's owner hadn't either - ended up stripping the last bolt). Anyways, we flagged down 2 jeeps of people passing by to see if anyone could help, and both of them were kind enough to call us "stupid college kids" and go on their merry way. The 3rd jeep did stop, saw that we had tried everything to get that darn bolt off (we had destroyed two screwdrivers - hammering them through the bolt to try and get it off), and were kind enough to help us out.

          Obviously this is not the same situation as with the mountain climbers. Those climbers (most of them) spend years preparing themselves, not to mention the monetary costs, and have a small window of opportunity to make it to the top. From the looks of things, when they find someone struggling, most of them have that same "stupid amateurs" attitude, and go on their merry way.

          The Italians, for instance, reminded me of those jeeps that just passed on by without helping - I guess they figure that anyone who dies during the trek, deserves to (they didn't prepare appropriately, or whatnot).

          I can understand the camping peoples' reluctance to stop (maybe they've seen too many "stupid college kids" to care anymore), but I can't fathom thinking that way in a life and death situation, and leaving someone there to die.

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          #13.1 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 6:53 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":154952,"authorDomain":"DogHumpsMonkey"}

          Oops, I got the names wrong above. Mr. Mazur, the kudos go to you for a job well done. Mr. Hall, you get kudos for, you know, still being alive and having a sense of humor on top of the mountain.

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            Reply#14 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 7:14 PM EDT
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