A Dying Al-Zarqawi Tried to Get Away

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Attacks on Baghdad Green Zone

WHAT'S THE GREEN ZONE? Also called the International Zone, it's the heavily protected area in central Baghdad that holds the U.S. and British embassies, the Iraqi parliament and prime minister's office.

OPEN TO ATTACK: A U.N. report in June said insurgents had bombarded the area with rockets and mortar fire more than 80 times since March.

CASUALTIES: Nearly 30 people have been reportedly killed in the barrages.

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{"commentId":153468,"authorDomain":"filias"}

Wow, how quick to see such a grizzly image. Well, I'm glad that got him.

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    Reply#1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 7:28 PM EDT
    {"commentId":153474,"authorDomain":"antispin"}

    "spiritual consultant" ??

    {"commentId":153474,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"antispin"}
      Reply#2 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 7:31 PM EDT
      {"commentId":153491,"authorDomain":"unlogikal"}

      Yes yes, something like a priest I'd imagine. Although I think from my very non-religious standpoint I'd prefer a priest over his "Spiritual Advisor" any day of the week.

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      #2.1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 7:39 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":153476,"authorDomain":"regbarc"}

      I was hoping his eyes would be open so he at least saw the explosion coming. Whatever his last thoughts were, I am thankful they were his last thoughts.

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      • 8 votes
      Reply#3 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 7:32 PM EDT
      {"commentId":153504,"authorDomain":"traviswalters"}

      Terrorists show photos and videos of people they kill before and after they are dead. Now we do too! I'm so glad we're defeating their mentality over there so we don't have to over here...

      {"commentId":153504,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"traviswalters"}
      • 3 votes
      Reply#4 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 7:54 PM EDT
      {"commentId":153569,"authorDomain":"regbarc"}

      Because if they didn't show the photo, the nutjob conspiracy theorists would be instantaneously calling for a Senate investigation, and claiming it was all faked.

      {"commentId":153569,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"regbarc"}
      • 6 votes
      #4.1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 9:07 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":153525,"authorDomain":"braytek"}

      This photo is totally uncalled for. Seriously.

      {"commentId":153525,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"braytek"}
      • 1 vote
      Reply#5 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 8:14 PM EDT
      {"commentId":153551,"authorDomain":"sean"}

      Care to share why you think it's uncalled for?

      {"commentId":153551,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"sean"}
        #5.1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 8:37 PM EDT
        {"commentId":153570,"authorDomain":"unlogikal"}

        I don't think it's really all that uncalled for. It's been on CNN all day and probably on other networks. It gives people a reality I think. They see what is really happening over there. I think this is a good way for people to wake up and realize what is happening. It's also from the Associated Press, a very reputable news source, where many many sites and news channels get their information. Now, your view is that it's uncalled for, however my view is that the Associated Press is a much more worthy opinion and view than yours, thus I believe it stays and if the Associated Press puts it out, it's a lot more news worthy than some other places we get our news in this country.

        If you want to see "uncalled" for, you should goto Ogrish (you've been warned, not even I will visit that site) or go watch any of the Iraqi news channels. You'll find much more gruesome photos. This is tame. Americans are so damn unable to deal with things. It's really sad. "Oh my god that kid is playing violent video games, this is terrible, he'll go on a murderous rampage unless we take it away from him." "Oh my god, my daughter and son don't need to see that nude piece of art, this is going to cause traumatic problems and it's totally uncalled for."

        Please.. People need to wake up and realize that life goes on. Life is what you see in front of you, not some news caption scrolling across World News Tonight. Life, Death, and everything in between.

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        #5.2 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 9:08 PM EDT
        {"commentId":153686,"authorDomain":"ultimathule"}

        The photo is uncalled-for.

        {"commentId":153686,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"ultimathule"}
          #5.3 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 10:42 PM EDT
          {"commentId":153707,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

          The reason it is uncalled for, is the us bans pictures of our own injured soldiers and dead as distasteful.(so can argue so that americans dont see the reality of war because the media ruined vietnam)

          You cant even photo the coffins but aslong as it is the enemy i guess it is ok.
          I absolutly understand the psyops usefulness of this photo, just it shouldnt be anywhere on us media.. well actually it should but so should our dead and injured.

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          • 3 votes
          #5.4 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 10:54 PM EDT
          {"commentId":153724,"authorDomain":"unlogikal"}

          I'm confused JoulesBeef, what exactly is your stance? You think it should be shown, but along with that so should US Soldiers photos?

          Or are you saying you agree that it should be shown?

          On the point of US Soldiers photos not being shown, that much I can understand for the families involved. Caskets are one thing, that's tasteful for the family involved. But to show disfigured or disturbing photos of someone's son in U.S. Media, that can be sort of a different deal. I'm not sure where I stand on that one. I know I probably wouldn't want to see my own family members or friends shown in that light in the media. You can argue that the families of these Iraqi people are in the same position though. I think they're less likely to see American media though? I'm not sure about it, but that may be the case.

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            #5.5 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 11:00 PM EDT
            {"commentId":153864,"authorDomain":"abhibeckert"}

            It seems to me his stance is clearly that friend or foe, the photos should either be allowed or not allowed. Rather than having different rules for both.

            {"commentId":153864,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"abhibeckert"}
            • 1 vote
            #5.6 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 1:46 AM EDT
            {"commentId":154572,"authorDomain":"walketim"}

            The reason for the photo is simple. Bush and the rest needed pictures to illustrate their "Bring it On" book. Doesn't anyone understand two simple truths 1) violence begets violence and 2) we only killed what we created. What is al-Zarqawi without the US occupation of Iraq? A simple problem for law enforcement in that region. If you still think there is any relationship between this, 9/11 and WMD beyond the obvious marketing ploys, you are on serious dope. What is the basic response of the Sunnis? "We'll create (2) al-Zarqawis". That about sums up this false victory. 2 Americans beheaded, thousands of US troops killed, tens of thousand more wounded, half a trillion dollars and 100,000 Iraqi civilians murdered, and more violence than ever. Nice job!

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              #5.7 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 3:13 PM EDT
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              {"commentId":153529,"authorDomain":"tysonwilliams"}

              That's just sick...

              {"commentId":153529,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"tysonwilliams"}
              • 2 votes
              Reply#6 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 8:18 PM EDT
              {"commentId":153538,"authorDomain":"wallyg"}

              I think the photo isn't for Western audiences.

              {"commentId":153538,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"wallyg"}
                Reply#7 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 8:29 PM EDT
                {"commentId":153547,"authorDomain":"wolfanoz"}

                I realize these pictures need to get out to those who want to cause harm to deter them from doing so but this is overdoing it much like 9/11 when all media affiliates kept showing the planes going into the WTC buildings for the next three to four hours after it happened.

                {"commentId":153547,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"wolfanoz"}
                • 1 vote
                Reply#8 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 8:35 PM EDT
                {"commentId":153614,"authorDomain":"gzirra"}

                Do you feel the same way about the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse photos appearing on the MSM everywhere for over three months?

                {"commentId":153614,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"gzirra"}
                • 2 votes
                #8.1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 9:50 PM EDT
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                {"commentId":153582,"authorDomain":"charliepage"}

                In the past there have been the same responses except from the other side (i believe it was saddam's sons, it took a while to show pictures of them and people were mad at how long it took).

                If they wouldn't of shown a picture I would be pretty upset. I would understand if half his body was blown up but it isn't, its just a little blood and marks.

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                  Reply#9 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 9:17 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":153584,"authorDomain":"pmgraham"}

                  I kind of think the image is a bit too gruesome to be on the front page - I can see it being available within the story though

                  {"commentId":153584,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"pmgraham"}
                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#10 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 9:19 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":153609,"authorDomain":"Micrastur"}

                  I can't help but be reminded of this picture of Che Guevara, which many think sealed his legacy as the revolutionary self-sacrificing idealist is worshipped today. If all this image is supposed to do is convince skeptics of his death, then I hope those who released this photo have considered the possible unintended consequences.

                  {"commentId":153609,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"Micrastur"}
                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#11 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 9:44 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":153708,"authorDomain":"Micrastur"}

                  Insane! And now they put it in nice frame!? I have a picture of my grandmother like that in her casket. The new photo is on the verge of being a professional portrait that will hang proudly in the houses of insurgents. What a gift.

                  {"commentId":153708,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"Micrastur"}
                    #11.1 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 10:54 PM EDT
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                    {"commentId":153668,"authorDomain":"GregoryAlan"}

                    No doubt he will be named time magazines man of the year posthumously.

                    {"commentId":153668,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"GregoryAlan"}
                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#12 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 10:28 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":153752,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

                    I am liking this new trend of posting pictures of the war, this is a step in the right direction.

                    What bugs me is that the GIs apparently blew up and framed a picture of this guy's face. That just seems wrong.

                    {"commentId":153752,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"darkside"}
                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#13 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 11:26 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":153753,"authorDomain":"zaki"}

                    it's called a photo-op guys, you don't need to be alive for photo-ops, didn't you know?

                    This photo will two 2 things:

                  • Get conservatives to chuckle and say: "Hahahaha, look at this dead terrorist, I'm so happy I got this framed!"
                  • Radicals in the region will say "Oh no! You killed my buddy! Now is a perfect for me to sacrifice myself in retaliation!
                  • It's a....win-win situation, so to speak...but in a twisted way.

                    Meanwhile 1337 light-years away, Zeus and the rest of the gang laugh at the irony of it all.

                    Yes Zeus. I've given Allah and Jesus too much of the spiritual credit, time to give a shout-out to the Greek Gods.

                    {"commentId":153753,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"zaki"}
                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#14 - Thu Jun 8, 2006 11:27 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":153817,"authorDomain":"slade"}

                    COOL!! A picture of a DEAD GUY!!!

                    We really showed him who's boss! COOL!! Anybody got any other pictures of DEAD GUYS??

                    {"commentId":153817,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"slade"}
                      Reply#15 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 12:31 AM EDT
                      {"commentId":153849,"authorDomain":"kai"}

                      I'm sure he's looking up from the bowels of Hell right now wondering where his 72 virgins are now, instead confused as to why the burning sulfur is stinging his eyes. I can only hope more of his kind join him soon.

                      {"commentId":153849,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"kai"}
                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#16 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 1:30 AM EDT
                      {"commentId":153928,"authorDomain":"adelaide"}

                      This article clearly states that al-Zarqawi was al-Qaida leader in Iraq. Yet other opinions I read say that that is a tenuous link. That they were hardly working together and in fact al-Qaida disliked Al-Zarqawi's methods and operations. Rather that the USA is trying to link them as much as possible so that we all think that the war there is part of the "war on terror" - when it is not! What do you locals think? Just because you might be anti the USA invasion of Iraq and fighting against it (so called "insurgents" though the majority are locals) that does not make you part of al-Qaida, does it?

                      {"commentId":153928,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"adelaide"}
                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#17 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 4:43 AM EDT
                      {"commentId":154286,"authorDomain":"jimmyhavok"}

                      A couple of weeks ago, the administration released captured footage of al-Zarqawi portraying him as a buffon. Now that they've killed him, he's a linchpin of the Iraqi insurgency. In six months, he will be down the memory hole, just like every other linchpin of the unsurgency who's been killed in Iraq.

                      {"commentId":154286,"threadId":"68","contentId":"248712","authorDomain":"jimmyhavok"}
                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#18 - Fri Jun 9, 2006 12:15 PM EDT
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