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{"commentId":155249,"authorDomain":"spring"}
Myspace - We get lots of good press.
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- 11 votes
#1 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:54 AM EDT{"commentId":155255,"authorDomain":"jamalistics"}
MySpace gets such a bad rap...I think the parents were stupid to get their daughter a passport to supposedly go on this trip without talking to her friends' parents. The kids do this stuff to themselves...I'm 22 with a MySpace account so I can keep in touch with ACTUAL friends....I don't talk to people I don't know or add people I've never met before. Common sense people.
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- 9 votes
#2 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:29 AM EDT{"commentId":155257,"authorDomain":"dhollister"}
Yeah, MySpace just enables people who are already stupid to, well, be stupider.
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- 29 votes
{"commentId":155298,"authorDomain":"rick"}
Yeah, MySpace just enables people who are already stupid to, well, be stupider.
I agree.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":155359,"authorDomain":"ROBNC"}
..oh but she never gave me a moments trouble..
..letting a 16 year old travel alone to Canada..oh yeah that's right with friends..what friends and who`s the chaperone's plus about a thousand and one more questions....the pure stupidity of this completely blows my mind...but then in today progressive climate nothing really surprises me anymore....but hey why shouldn't`t a 16 yr old be having a tryst she has rights too...pleeese..think folks think....
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- 9 votes
{"commentId":155907,"authorDomain":"scienceofthetwo"}
@Rob_NC
but then in today progressive climate nothing really surprises me anymore
Was it really necessary for you to bring politics into this? I don't really see any reason for you to connect a teenage girl traveling to the Middle East of her own volition to progressivism. It's unfounded and just fuels the already divided atmosphere here on Newsvine. Maybe you should keep your politics with the political stories rather than placing the blame of every little problem on those with differing political beliefs.
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{"commentId":155256,"authorDomain":"dhollister"}
"She said her daughter never had a boyfriend and seemed to be content with that."
Parents never learn. :)
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- 3 votes
#3 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:30 AM EDT{"commentId":155258,"authorDomain":"timtimmy"}
I'm going to get flamed for this. But why is this news? People travel all the time to meet people they met over the internet. This girl is a more unique case in that she did so when she was 16. No crimes were committed. She did so of her own free will. She was past the age of consent.. etc etc. My suspicion, as for why this is news, is that in the back of peoples mind, they imagine this guy being a terrorist, or associate anyone from the mideast as something evil. Though any semi-rational person will realize otherwise.
Furthermore, the photo shown is "undated", and probably shows her when she was quite young. Doesn't this prey too much on an image of innocence??
My apologies to the reporter, but this is just too sensationalist for my liking. Flame away, I don't really care.
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- 15 votes
#4 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:34 AM EDT{"commentId":155265,"authorDomain":"thescottspot"}
This is news because the media has sided against places like MySpace and services like AIM. Instead of reporting the truth on the subject, that Parents should explain to their kids the proper uses of such services, they report with a tilt against MySpace, etc, claiming them as harbours for predators. Um, hello? Isn't a public park also a harbour for predators too? No kid will get taken away if they follow safety rules, just the same as when a kid goes in public. For instance, do we not teach our kids how to be safe when at a park, like "Don't talk to strangers Johnny!"? We should teach our kids how to be safe on the internet too! The stupid thing is that parents, are blaming the service, not the kid and the parenting mistakes. And with the media on their side, every example of such wrongdoing will be highlighted until the sites or services come down.
{"commentId":155265,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"thescottspot"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":155275,"authorDomain":"softfacts"}
I think it's a "feel good" piece like most other news stories about the mentally retarded...
{"commentId":155275,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"softfacts"}
- 10 votes
{"commentId":155292,"authorDomain":"kikaiju"}
Using the photo at all is bothersome to me.
She's a minor, and MAY be a victim of some sort of sex crime. Names and photos of such people are generally kept out of the media.
I can understand her family releasing the photo as part of a missing person's case but I just don't know about this use. It seems borderline to me.
{"commentId":155292,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"kikaiju"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":155301,"authorDomain":"rick"}
I think it's an interesting story, maybe doesn't have to be the spotlight story, but it's interesting in the sense that you just go "wow, maybe I am kind of bright after all."
{"commentId":155301,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"rick"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":155388,"authorDomain":"DigitalRob"}
This is a great example of stupid parenting. These have made a few critical errors.
1) My 16 year old has never given me trouble, so she will always make good decisions. Dumb.
2) My 16 year old is satisfied with never having had a boyfriend: Really dumb.
3) My 16 year old is safe because our country has laws. WTF.
This is "news" (maybe better labeled a human interest piece) because people should learn from it.
-Rob
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- 5 votes
{"commentId":155535,"authorDomain":"cheetr"}
There was no sex crime here. This is the same kind of situation as the "runaway bride" (forgive my stupid title using). This girl runs off to "the middle east" to meet some guy she met on myspace. This is a really great example of why sex crimes happen. These people tie up the authorites and no one is left to deal with acual crimes. Also, it stands to reason that since Canada is a different country it shouldn't be surprising that a 16 year-old, who "planned to go to Canada," could get out of the country.
Also, if she leaves to get on a plane and fly to a biblical site to meet some guy fine. Do not blame anyone but yourself if this is a problem for you. Also, it might be a good idea to, instead of whining to your firends about how you can't keep up with all this technology, learn something or maybe (shocked gasp) talk to your child about them (not a lecture about how people are bad and they all want to kill you and are all really jealous of you because you are the bestest everrrr!!!!). Just sit down and ask your kid about stuff, put them in the dominant role, let themm teach you about their life.
{"commentId":155535,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"cheetr"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":155566,"authorDomain":"mariachi77"}
I can't believe that lady expected the law to keep her kid from travelling. People like that don't deserve freedom of choice. Furthermore, it's even more ridiculous that they're making sure no laws have been broken. Where's the common sense? Did anything happen?
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{"commentId":155286,"authorDomain":"lll"}
This girl is so grounded. Her parents should be, too.
Yes, blame someone else, that's the true spirit! /sacarsm
{"commentId":155286,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"lll"}
- 1 vote
#5 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:31 AM EDT{"commentId":155325,"authorDomain":"latino"}
That...scares the hell out of me when I put it into context of my younger cousins.
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#6 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:58 AM EDT{"commentId":155340,"authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
Shawn Lester told The Saginaw News that her daughter has "never given me a day's trouble. ... I just don't understand with all these new laws protecting America how a 16-year-old kid could get out of the country."
Maybe because it is not the government's responsibility to keep your kid in the country.
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- 4 votes
#7 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:40 AM EDT{"commentId":155797,"authorDomain":"tigerblade"}
that part caught my eye too... um... most of our "new laws protecting America" aren't designed to keep 16 year old girls in. they're designed to keep "terrorists" out. if you want to leave the country, by all means do so.
these parents are morons, and that's just about all there is to it. but i can already see how this is just going to make things worse for MySpace, again. Not that I have any love for MySpace, but still. People see stories like this and instead of blaming the responsible parties (the girl and her parents) they blame the high-profile MySpace. Because it was MySpace that made the girl leave, right?
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{"commentId":155348,"authorDomain":"stef25"}
"I just don't understand with all these new laws protecting America how a 16-year-old kid could get out of the country"
she'll get gang raped by the taliban! she'll be coming back with dynamite strapped to her waist before you know it!! will somebody please think of the children!!!
obviously, we need more laws
{"commentId":155348,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"stef25"}
- 1 vote
#8 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:14 AM EDT{"commentId":155364,"authorDomain":"ROBNC"}
obviously, we need more laws
..more laws..no these parents..come to think of it where`s the father..needs a reality check,a 16 yr old is at the age where sex is a major point in their lives..come on folks has it really been that long..oh ok he was so understanding..yeah he understood all right..and if you need more..you really are out of touch ..kids today are bombarded with sex..morning , noon and night,they don't have a chance..be responsible TALK TO YOUR KIDS...NOT AT THEM..now before its too late...
{"commentId":155364,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"ROBNC"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":155366,"authorDomain":"johnbeales"}
I think it's news because MySpace and other similar services are a new phenomenon which allow predators to have a much larger reach than the local park or whatever - so it's kind of sensational.
As for the parents, I guess they need to make sure they know where their daughter is going before she heads out. I'm not sure about the whole being 'tricked' into getting her a passport though. Lots of people have passports at the age of 16. I did. It would be handy for a day of, say, shopping in Canada, and pretty soon it'll be mandatory. I think that the parents just need to make sure they know what's going on with their kid, and Rob_NC points out above ask a lot more questions.
I also found this quote from Shawn Lester, (a brother perhaps? Terry's the father), amusing: "I just don't understand with all these new laws protecting America how a 16-year-old kid could get out of the country." What - you were expecting her to go to Canada. Are there supposed to be magic American laws that would make it so she can't travel to the middle east? If she's alone in Canada she can go pretty much anywhere. Out of the country is out of the country folks. Maybe next time she'll come on up here and get married to another girl.
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- 2 votes
#9 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:02 AM EDT{"commentId":155422,"authorDomain":"cjlewis"}
The title should read " Irresponsible father made 16 year old possible to get out of country" or "Parent blames government for his own stupidity"
We see this trend everywhere now especially with teenagers gettting in trouble. Some parents could care less of where their kids go, who they mix with and what they do with them but all of a sudden, they get really shocked when something happens. They need to wake up. A lot of parents still think that once their kids go to high school it is honeymoon for them and it is the teachers responsibility to teach them.
The US government should fine the father for causing this. A lot of time and money was wasted on her search and the father still blames the government.
{"commentId":155422,"threadId":"22495","contentId":"250404","authorDomain":"cjlewis"}
- 5 votes
#10 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:21 AM EDT{"commentId":155930,"authorDomain":"johnbeales"}
My girlfriend reminded me of another story we saw on the TV news the other day about parents dropping the ball. In this case there was a school trip to Europe, where the drinking age is generally 16. Parents were told beforehand that the students would be allowed to drink. Now, after allowing her daughter to go on the trip one parent in particular is making a big stink and bringing the media, school boards, and lawyers into it. Link.
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#11 - Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:42 PM EDT{"canLink":false,"threadId":"22495","isPrivate":false}
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