Israel Won't Expand Offensive in Lebanon

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Good decision. Glad that people are at least moving towards talks. Of course the Al Qaeda idiots have to bring in their own crap into it.

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Reply#2 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:39 PM EDT
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The talks don't mean anything without the support of the US. And we aren't going to support a ceasefire until the rocket attacks stop and Israel is satisfied that Hezbollah is destroyed. But the entire state of Lebanon could be gone before that happens.

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#2.1 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:20 PM EDT
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I don't support the breadth of the action that Isreal is taking nor do I support Hezbolla and its actions. If I had I my way with American foreign policy... let's just say a lot would be different.

If in fact both sides are guilty, which I believe they most certainly are, the onus is on the international community (particularly Russia) to get Hezbolla, Iran, and Syria to the table, because its clear historically that the US can bring Isreal. Instead, Russia, Germany, and France all seem rather content to lay the burden upon the US to stop the violence they didn't start and to bring people to the table that they can't bring.

Lavrov made a stir shortly after the Hamas election by inviting Haniyeh to Moscow and recognizing their government. Where is Lavrov in all of this? Has anyone brought Iran to the table? Where was Iran's Supreme Leader? Ali Larijani should have been in Rome, and instead he was in Damascus. That's a problem.

If Europe wants to end this thing with Diplomacy, they need to start by bringing together the people that -can- end it. Its clear, tragically, that Washington is happy with the status quo, and for cooler heads to prevail cooler heads need to TRY, and continuing to wait until the United States decides to act just isn't going to get it done.

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Reply#3 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:59 PM EDT
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to get Hezbolla, Iran, and Syria to the table

For what purpose? To offer to turn the US and the rest of the western world into Islamic states? To offer to have Israel turned over to control of Hamas?

Best they could do is negotiate a cease fire leaving Hizbullah and their thousands of missiles in place on Israel's northern border. That will sort things out for .... how long?

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#3.1 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:03 AM EDT
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I thought the purpose was made quite clear in my article, though apparently not if you're asking the question. The purpose would be to bring together the people with the power and the influence to end the conflict as the European powers want, as opposed to the ineffectiveness of their current policy.

As for the next two questions... Not only did I not suggest either, I don't think anyone is suggesting those are two likely courses of action, except for yourself.

As for the best they could do... I'm not an expert in international diplomacy but I think a good start would be disarming Hezbolla as per the 2004 non-binding UN resolution and establishing a buffer zone like Isreal had for a dozen and a half years north of their border. Something binding to hold Syria back would probably be too much to ask for, but we can dream can't we?

The purpose of the article was to refute the idea that the US should be held solely responsible for the continuance of violence, or that the US policy of supporting Isreal is the sole reason for the continuance when no one else is taking any significant action to stop the violence.

The parties that are involved in the conflict, Isreal and Hezbolla, are showing no signs of stopping, and the Europeans aren't doing the things that are absolutely necessary to settle the conflict, such as bringing in Nasrallah, the Iranians and the Syrians, and so by not doing their inactions speaks louder than words.

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#3.2 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:08 AM EDT
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I think what I'm trying to say is that if you want Hizbullah disarmed it has to be done by force or not at all. Negotiation is not going to bruing that about.

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#3.3 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:12 AM EDT
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"We cannot just watch these shells as they burn our brothers in Gaza and Lebanon and stand by idly, humiliated," al-Zawahri said, adding that "all the world is a battlefield open in front of us."

"The war with Israel does not depend on cease-fires. ... It is a jihad (holy war) for the sake of God and will last until (our) religion prevails ... from Spain to Iraq," he said. "We will attack everywhere."

Can we end all arguments about who is right and who is wrong? These Jihadists are not complaining that Israel is killing civilians. Even WITH peace they will be bombing Israel and the rest of the world. What the hell does Spain have to do with this anyways? Well, the rational person tries to find the logic, but the realist looks at the facts and opinions and sees what the other party is actually saying.

"We cannot just watch these shells as they burn our brothers in Gaza and Lebanon and stand by idly, humiliated," al-Zawahri said, adding that "all the world is a battlefield open in front of us."

"The war with Israel does not depend on cease-fires. ... It is a jihad (holy war) for the sake of God and will last until (our) religion prevails ... from Spain to Iraq," he said. "We will attack everywhere."

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Reply#4 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:15 PM EDT
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What the hell does Spain have to do with this anyways?

The believe that Spain belongs to them because they governed Andalusia from 711 to 1492.

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#4.1 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:36 AM EDT
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{"commentId":224087,"authorDomain":"mimizhusband"}

Hell is about to break loose. 30,000 reservists?? That many Israeli soldiers could take over most countries in 72 hours and the rabbi's would already be in-country organizing Hebrew academies. I think that Hezbollah and Iran and actually Iraq have woefully miscalculated Israeli resolve in such matters.

The question is .... can a massive retaliation be accomplished without completely isolating them from Jordan, S. Arabia and Egypt. Probably, but it depends on the Israeli ability to come across as honorable in the middle eastern sense and to stop before they appear bloodthirsty. If will make for interesting TV as we watch worlds collide. The smartest people in Lebanon (I really mean that) have already gone to Syria or more distant lands. Poor Lebanon. Again.

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Reply#5 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:34 PM EDT
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Of course the US isn't going to try to stop this. Hezbollah is an active terrorist organization, and as such I'm sure it's on the US government hit list. Heck, it's probably been on the hit list since the various attacks on US citizens back in the 70's & 80's.

So why would the US stop Israel from destroying Hezbollah when it's something the US would just end up doing eventually? I'm not claiming the US put Israel up to it, just that both states happen to want the same thing.

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Reply#6 - Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:07 PM EDT
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