Landis Says He'll Prove His Innocence

advertisement
This article is over 14 days old and has been removed by requirement of the Associated Press.
  • 11 Votes
  • Enjoy this article? Help vote it up the 'Vine.

Back To Top

Published to:

What's this?
Who's leading the conversation?
This visualization below allows you to see the impact that each user has on the current conversation. The top row contains the group of users who have had the most impact, the 2nd row the group of users who have had the 2nd most impact (et cetera). Users with similar impact are grouped together, and the average score of the group is shown to the left of the group. The author of the article is also shown on the left, in their corresponding group. Each user's score is based on the number of comments the user has made plus the number of votes their comments have received. The scores are calculated relative one another, so while their absolute value is not particularly important, their relative difference does indicate a larger difference in impact on the conversation.
4.0
1.2
{"commentId":224733,"authorDomain":"betsy"}

I have a hard time believing Landis would be so stupid as to take any kind of performance drug knowing he will be tested. He might as well not race. Why would anyone think they could get away with that?

{"commentId":224733,"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670","authorDomain":"betsy"}
  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:31 AM EDT
{"commentId":224781,"authorDomain":"tenaciousc"}

I really don't have a hard time believing Landis gave his body a boost. But yeah, if so, he certainly ain't very smart. I guess he hasn't seen or read anything lately about a guy in baseball named Bonds. And his I'm-innocent response, so far, hasn't exactly been convincing.

What I do have a hard time believing is that his "positive test results shocked the cycling world." Is any athlete's illicit ingestion/consumption/injection of banned or should-be banned substances a surprise to anyone these days? I wish it were.

Bonds (and other ball players, yes) has put a fat freakin' smudge on baseball by living a public lie for years. It looks like Landis might be looking to join that club, representing his sport.

But who knows. Maybe he's innocent of what the test results suggest, and I'm just a cynic.

What pisses me off is that athletes draw their fans into their personal and professional victories, only to let them down. My Dad is fighting an as-yet incurable disease, and absolutely loves cycling. When guys like Armstrong and Landis appear to be poster-boys for overcoming adversity while simultaneously excelling physically ... only to bring their methods and approach into serious question, it can destroy the trust and hope that fans living with similar challenges have in them, the sport, and the treatment of their disease.

I feel a bit like a nattering grandma, shaking a wrinkled finger at these guys in disgust, but hell. Shame on you, shame on athletes who can't compete naturally.

{"commentId":224781,"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670","authorDomain":"tenaciousc"}
  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:01 PM EDT
{"commentId":224982,"authorDomain":"roan"}

Like anyone was expecting him to ever admit to doping?

Even is he does have naturally high levels of testosterone, his T/E ratio (testosterone to epitestosterone ratio) would still be normal.

The T/E ratio test was first designed by Manfred Donike in 1982, and has a very low rate of false positives, 0.1%. The average ratio is 1.33:1, Landis's was greater than 4:1.

{"commentId":224982,"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670","authorDomain":"roan"}
  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:17 PM EDT
{"commentId":225365,"authorDomain":"fasteddie"}
Like anyone was expecting him to ever admit to doping?

Actually Greg Lemond was on ESPN last night asking him to do just that.

{"commentId":225365,"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670","authorDomain":"fasteddie"}
    #3.1 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:24 PM EDT
    {"commentId":225382,"authorDomain":"roan"}

    Really? What did Lemond say?

    {"commentId":225382,"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670","authorDomain":"roan"}
      #3.2 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:44 PM EDT
      {"commentId":225585,"authorDomain":"fasteddie"}

      "he hopes that if the b sample comes back positive that landis will take the high road and come clean about any wrong doing. he says that it will help the image of cycling since it has been plagued by so much doping."

      there is a video link on ESPN's website (i would post it but the vine will not allow a new user like me to submit links)

      {"commentId":225585,"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670","authorDomain":"fasteddie"}
        #3.3 - Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:46 AM EDT
        Reply
        {"commentId":225007,"authorDomain":"bleacherguy"}

        I'd like to believe him. I really would, because it was a great story.

        But I don't. And that's kind of what it's come to in sports nowadays. No one gets the benefit of the doubt anymore--that's just the way it is.

        {"commentId":225007,"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670","authorDomain":"bleacherguy"}
        • 3 votes
        Reply#4 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:39 PM EDT
        {"commentId":225063,"authorDomain":"icarus4586"}

        Every time an athlete is accused of using a performance-enhancing drug, you get the same response. "I'm as surprised as you all are! I have no idea how this could have happened." And then in a few weeks, "Did I say I didn't use drugs? I sure was confused, I meant that I did use drugs. I'm really sorry... please don't take away my award."

        {"commentId":225063,"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670","authorDomain":"icarus4586"}
          Reply#5 - Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:15 PM EDT
          {"canLink":false,"threadId":"22106","isPrivate":false}
          Leave a Comment:
          You're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML Mode instead.
          As a new user, you may notice a few temporary content restrictions. Click here for more info.
          {"threadId":"22106","contentId":"303670"}
          Start TrackingStart Tracking
          Stop TrackingStop Tracking