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U.S. Mint Goof Creates 'Godless Dollars'

Wed Mar 7, 2007 12:35 PM EST
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Joann Loviglio, Associated Press

In this undated photo released by Professional Coin Grading Service, a George Washington dollar coin missing the edge inscription is shown. An unknown number of new George Washington dollar coins were struck without their edge inscriptions, including "In God We Trust," and made it past inspectors and into circulation, the U.S. Mint said Wednesday, March 7, 2007. (AP Photo/Professional Coin Grading Service)

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JoulesBeef

Convenient, they invent a new dollar coin that they hope wont suffer the fate of other dollar coins and part of the first batch creates some of the most sought after collection items; Mistakes.
OK maybe a bit of a conspiracy theory, but at least this one is harmless.

  • 15 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 1:08 PM EST
Pamela Drew

My exact thoughts Joules, marketing and PR. They are taking a page from the USPS who keeps growing the numbers of items it sells, planning to be uncirculated as Treasury dreams of Beenie Baby mania.

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:28 PM EST
JoulesBeef

apparently they have made a few errors.
The ones without the edge are going for about $30 a piece on ebay
Then they have some with he writting upside down(with heads up, text supposed to be up)
these are going for like $15 with a free dollar

and a few that are both without the edge text and have no date or mint. for about $40 each
I wonder how many are being sold by employees.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:54 PM EST
Minos

Actually, the "tails-up" orientation of the edge lettering is not an error. Only the proof coins should always have "heads-up" edge lettering. Regular business-strike coins will have a random orientation of the edge lettering.

    #1.3 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 3:29 PM EST
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    winsomecowboy

    OK that's it, the final piece falls into place. Armageddon within the month.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#2 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 1:27 PM EST
    tigerblade

    "The first one sold for $600 before everyone knew how common they actually were," he said. "They're going for around $40 to $60 on eBay now, and they'll probably settle in the $50 range."

    talk about a return on investment. buying a one-dollar coin for 600 dollars.

    not a bad profit for the seller.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#3 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 1:30 PM EST
    whatwasleft

    Some toilets lack waste, yet we rarely complain when that is the case.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#4 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 1:43 PM EST
    whatwasleft

    A better analogy: some toilets lack pizza, yet we rarely complain when this is the case.

    • 3 votes
    #4.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 1:45 PM EST
    Henry VII

    Best - Some pizza lacks waste, yet we rarely complain when this is the case.

    • 6 votes
    #4.2 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 8:49 PM EST
    whatwasleft

    Ha, cheers Pharaoh. Good shot.

    • 3 votes
    #4.3 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 8:53 PM EST
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    updraft419

    Do the inspectors not have a list what to look for on the coin or do they just "wing it".

    • 5 votes
    Reply#5 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 1:44 PM EST
    ScubaDog

    Damn I was hoping it would catch on and we can remove the invisible deity reference from all government produced products.

    • 13 votes
    Reply#6 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:01 PM EST
    Deh Ehn

    Don't you realize that we have to protect the sanctity of our currency?

    • 8 votes
    #6.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:24 PM EST
    Behind My Screen

    Think of the tradition!!! what would this country be with out our traditions that span back 50 years or less! we will fall apart as a country!

    • 6 votes
    #6.2 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 3:26 PM EST
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    Adam Hobson

    Oh crap, now we're no longer god's chosen nation and the terrorists are sure to strike us down as the fist of god.

    • 16 votes
    Reply#7 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:21 PM EST
    Pamela Drew

    Only in the gold dollar sector, on paper we still have God.

    • 7 votes
    #7.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:29 PM EST
    whatwasleft

    on paper we still have God

    Has God ever been anywhere else?

    • 7 votes
    #7.2 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 8:54 PM EST
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    Oluseye

    U.S. Mint Goof Creates 'Godless Dollars'

    Thus completing the secular-liberal takeover of America. Gird your loins, hell is about to break loose!

    • 2 votes
    Reply#8 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:34 PM EST
    Belarius

    Given that they're going for 50 times their face value, I'd say demand suggests that we've already been there a while.

    • 8 votes
    #8.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:39 PM EST
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    Leftist

    if they want this to succeed, GET RID of the DOLLAR BILL

    retards!

    • 8 votes
    #9 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:36 PM EST
    Leftist

    i personally LOVE dollar coins - and the canadian 2 dollar coin is a neat idea too

    how handy - a cup of coffee or a magazine at the news stand won't require you taking your wallet out

    • 5 votes
    #9.1 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:37 PM EST
    AdipicAcid

    Won't you please think of the strip... err... Gentlemen's Club Artistes before saying that?

    • 5 votes
    #9.2 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:40 PM EST
    Jay Butler

    There are some interesting things done with Loonies and Toonies in Canadian entertainment establishments. Based on that, I do suggest the immediate elimination of the dollar bill. American dancers are losing business to clubs north of the border. We cannot let this outsourcing continue!

    • 2 votes
    #9.3 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:55 PM EST
    updraft419

    Yes, but think about the massive amount of weight it adds to your pocket. Or here's an idea, don't carry cash, just a credit card.

    • 3 votes
    #9.4 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 2:58 PM EST
    Jay Butler

    Errr... The entertainers do not accept credit. It's a cash-only business.

    • 2 votes
    #9.5 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 3:16 PM EST
    tigerblade

    swiping a card is not encouraged.

    • 12 votes
    #9.6 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 3:17 PM EST
    Jay Butler

    swiping a card is not encouraged.

    That could get you arrested. But, then you could use the credit card to post bail or pay the fine.

    • 3 votes
    #9.7 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 3:23 PM EST
    Behind My Screen

    swiping a card is not encouraged.

    Do you have any idea of the kinds of things that go on in those private lap dance rooms?

    • 1 vote
    #9.8 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 3:29 PM EST
    JoulesBeef

    if they want this to succeed, GET RID of the DOLLAR BILL

    just dont make them the size of quarter

    i used to love the giant Eisenhower, as a kid it is good to feel the weight of your money in your pocket as you generally dont have a lot.
    then they made a dollar the same size as a quarter. People complained that because they were the same size as a quarter, people would spend them as such, so they made them gold. But they are still the same size as a quarter, i still spend them as quarters now and then.

    and sorry but if it is a coin, a vending machine has got to take it.. well except for pennies as the never count.

    • 2 votes
    #9.9 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 4:54 PM EST
    Jay Butler

    I vote for eliminating the penny and the dollar bill. But, the dollar coin has to be a reasonable size.

    When traveling to Canada or Europe, I always feel like I am carting around 5 pounds of coins. Some of the old British coins were especially heavy. I don't want to trade one evil for another.

    • 3 votes
    #9.10 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 5:21 PM EST
    Whyren

    Best yet is when you get home at the end of the day:

    "Aw, all I've got is a pocketful of change...wait, there's like 10€ in here"

    • 1 vote
    #9.11 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 10:35 PM EST
    Henry VII

    The worst part is carrying around that much change - always jingling in your pocket. I agree with eliminating the dollar for a coin - but all coins need to be the size of a dime or smaller. Better yet, make them out of a material that is equal in value to their worth. Best case scenario would be to electronicize all of your money.

    And seriously, end the penny.

    • 2 votes
    #9.12 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 11:13 PM EST
    JeanCauvin5

    Why is it assumed that we cannot keep both a dollar coin and paper dollar in currency? I read earlier that this was some sort of either/or scenario, but in China, where I now live, we have both a paper Yuan and a coin version. Both have their uses: the coin is great for vending machines and public transportation, while the paper is better for making exact change at the cash register. I think the system works quite well.

    • 1 vote
    #9.13 - Thu Mar 8, 2007 12:10 AM EST
    Henry VII

    If we keep both, one will be marginalized. As long as we have a bill, no one will use the coin. You can use both, but it will simply cause frustration when you have the wrong one.

    And paper yuans are awful. Like having a 13 cent bill.

    • 2 votes
    #9.14 - Thu Mar 8, 2007 12:51 AM EST
    JeanCauvin5

    Pharaoh, I agree that your conclusion is more intuitive, but it honestly seems to work quite well over here. I get both of them as change frequently. And as far as the value of the yuan, you're pretty close to being right. But for about 10-20 of them you can get a decent meal, so it isn't as bad as it sounds. That's about as far as the dollar will get you in most restaurants in NY, right?

    • 1 vote
    #9.15 - Thu Mar 8, 2007 3:32 AM EST
    Henry VII

    Personally, I like the system we have in Japan. The smallest bill is 1000 yen - about $8. Everything below that is a coin.

    • 1 vote
    #9.16 - Thu Mar 8, 2007 3:58 AM EST
    Jay Butler

    In China, that may work. But in the US, the dollar coin has failed to get a foothold every time it has been introduced. Each iteration has been phased out its 'flaws' fixed and a new one released.

    Eisenhower dollar (1971–1978) - too large
    Anthony dollar (1979–1981; 1999) - too similar to the quarter
    Sacagawea dollar (2000–Present) - a golden quarter
    Presidential dollar (2007–) - ?

    The only time I have ever received one of these coins was at a US Post Office. To get the masses to accept the dollar coin, the alternative dollar bill has to be non-existent or, at least, more scarce.

    • 2 votes
    #9.17 - Thu Mar 8, 2007 9:54 AM EST
    Adam Hobson

    It's simple, it's finally time to change up our denominations. We really need to get rid of the penny. It costs 1.2 cents to mint and 1.4 cents each for minting and distribution. We've been talking about getting rid of it since the 1920's.

    Getting rid of the penny while introducing the dollar coin would work great since all coins can just move one over in cash register tills.

    I'm even open to getting rid of the nickel while we are at it...

    • 2 votes
    #9.18 - Thu Mar 8, 2007 11:23 AM EST
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    Jason Coleman

    Well, error collecting in coin collecting isn't limited to mildly ironic instances such as this one, despite what the conspiracy theorists might think. Automated coin production has limited errors quite a lot, although it produces some really odd errors at times, which has increased the rarity of such error coins. I find it unfortunate that these coins often go for so much, as it is simply collecting for the sake of rarity and not for the artistry and aesthetic value that goes in to coin design. I collect a few coins (nothing of any great value, though; it really can be the "hobby of kings") and I personally find the error coins to be mostly ugly and useless, sort of like a limited run Thomas Kinkade painting…

    • 1 vote
    Reply#10 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 3:36 PM EST
    Nick Ford

    I've got one with heads on the wrong side.

    • 10 votes
    Reply#11 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 4:03 PM EST
    nwzjnkee

    That was done intentionally to increase interest in the new coins. Marketing hype.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#12 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 6:18 PM EST
    Yunie

    I used to collect coins that were messed up and different. I didn't run across any wrong sided, double sided, or anything with mistakes, mostly just that weren't in the shape of a circle or with holes. Great profit for the person who got paid $600 for the "mistake" coin though.

      Reply#13 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 6:31 PM EST
      Tim.

      If some people were upset that the "In God We Trust" motto was not on the face of the coin, imagine what they would've done if this error were so widespread they thought they were all like this.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#14 - Wed Mar 7, 2007 11:05 PM EST
      DeFex

      i have an english 1933 penny but it is fake ..someone actually tried to rework the 2 in to a 3 :)

        Reply#15 - Thu Mar 8, 2007 12:57 AM EST
        name4j4

        It looks as if they are finally separating church and state. Too bad it's on accident.

          Reply#16 - Thu Mar 8, 2007 10:48 AM EST
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