I hope my phone calls to my cable company are never leaked to the media.
That this has become such a big news story is absolutely @!$%#ing ridiculous. I have no more of a right to know about Baldwin's personal life than he does about mine.
Also, being a child of divorce, I think it's a pretty crap move that Basinger released this stuff to the media. Parents using their kids to pull power plays is disgusting.
How do you know it was Kim that released it? The daughter is 11 years old (unless U ask Alec then she may be 12), has been brought up in the media spotlight and is of an age to form her own opinions on the situations.
Granted that may be tainted by the ongoing fight between the parents by she's old enough and smart enough, and most importantly, have access to the media to release it herself.
And while I'm here, I'll raise the BS flag on his "apology."
I am most saddened that this was released to the media because of what it does to a child," he wrote.
Oh... cry me a river Alec. He's "most saddened" and "sorry" because it may have damaged his child not because of the words he said but because they were released to the media.
If this were an isolated incident I might give him a pass, but it would be very tough considering how demeaning it was.
Given this despicable little twerp has had a long history of this type of behavior he gets nothing but scorn from me.
While he may be wrong for what he said to his daughter, Basinger is equally wrong for violating her own daughter's privacy rights. Now, thanks to the mother, the entire world knows she was called a worthless pig, or whatever.
Nice going dad AND mom.
If "You" where the kid, people do* make mistakes, no one is perfect, using this as a validation to permanently disassociate him from his daughter under* this circumstances is pure wrong. So from this you what? Fully confirm that he is an abusive father with abusive tendencies and there is no two ways about it? Please enlighten me.
All Kim had to do was bring the tape to court and have the judge listen to it. She exploited her daughter and publically humiliated her. She's just as bad as, if not worse, than Alec.
Good lord... I think we have a new world champion for "Messiest Divorce". I just watch their movies (he was great in The Departed), but even I just want them to chill out.
I think it is sad that a mother would humiliate her daughter foremost but also a man she loved enough at one time to feel him worthy enough of having his child. Shame on you Kim Bassinger for putting your child through this. I hope it backfires on you. You should be trying to ensure the child has a good and decent relationship with her Dad instead of putting your child in the middle of an ugly divorce. How childish is that?
MGJ
Yep, here's another one, what's that the 3 or 4th time someone has jumped to the conclusion Kim released the tape.
Isn't it just as possible the daughter released it? She's 11 (or 12 by Alec's count) media savvy having grown up in that family and has easy access to the media.
Oh please; be realistic. What 11 year old is savvy enough to use the media like that; and more importantly, what 11 year old wants the world to know she's been called a thoughtless pig?
No doubt... How exactly does this 11 year old have access to the media? Does she have a publicity manager?
No doubt... How exactly does this 11 year old have access to the media? Does she have a publicity manager?
You're kidding, right? She's the daughter of two well-known actors.
What 11 year old is savvy enough to use the media like that; and more importantly, what 11 year old wants the world to know she's been called a thoughtless pig?
11 year olds can be pretty spiteful. Now, it's also likely that said spite is based on the acrimony she's seen from her parents during this divorce -- but an 11 year old is not an imbecile or too young to know how to manipulate parents.
Frankly, I don't really care what people think about Alec Baldwin. But, it is annoying to me when I see people treating Kim Bassinger as though she's a Saint or innocent in all of this. From what you read, it's clear that she's behaved (now and in the past) abysmally as well.
Just because she's the "mom" in a divorce -- don't assume that she's the better parent.
Did anyone even consider the possibility that he was already peeved at her for doing something out of line? I doubt his wife would bother to discipline her, especially during a custody battle. Maybe he's trying to do his part. I hear stories on a daily basis from my girlfriend about the type of obnoxious, racist, ignorant, violent and heinous actions students partake in these days. Most of their parents try to blame teachers for the problems, rather than teach their children respect and decency. Gee, a child of celebrity parents? I think it would be a safe bet she's a spoiled brat. Maybe Alec's assertions were deserved. Kids these days are mollycoddled and don't understand the concept of consequence. Not all children mind you, but a lot more than I remember growing up. Furthermore, it's really none of our business.
Isn't it just as possible the daughter released it? She's 11 (or 12 by Alec's count) media savvy having grown up in that family and has easy access to the media.
Here is another thought for y'all. Maybe it wasn't Kim or Ireland. Perhaps it was someone who had access to the tape (someone in the court system perhaps) who just doesn't like Alec.
I have gotten mad at my kids. Probably just as mad as Baldwin. Mad enough to spit nails and turned the air blue with language that would make a drunk roofer blush. But I would never call any of my children pigs. That was uncalled for.
"Rude" and "thoughtless" - I wonder where she got that from?
Hi parents out there, if you have never been so frustrated with your young teen, pre-teen or young adult that you yelled at them, then forgive me if I say I don't believe you.
I had four teenagers in my house at the same time, You bet I yelled at them, but the big difference was they knew they were loved and that they needed to get their act together. They are all in their forty's married for over 25 years to the same man or woman and have raised their children with the same values they were raised with, and yes they yelled at their kids.
I think the big difference with the Baldwin situation is a distance problem, two parents who care more about their difference then they do the child. If there was an agreement that the child would answer the phone at a certain time and the custodial parent did not see that this happened, then who's the problem?
I do think that Baldwin needs to keep the name calling out of his conversation, but I don't think he should lose his visitation for what appears to be a situation sit up to get the result that it got. I hope the Judge is wise enough to see it that way.
Astute comment, Sally. I have witnessed a few times in my life where divorce has one parent playing the child against the other. It's just plain wrong. One tactic used that can really exacerbate the situation is to play the parent who tends to be the disciplinarian as the "bad guy." Might this be happening here?
As you said, the name calling is not entirely appropriate, but on the other hand, 11 is an age where you *ARE* supposed to learn to become responsible, and this could've been the breaking point.
It is an absolute shame that it has gone before the court of public opinion, out of context, instead of in divorce court.
We don't know that this is the only incident. It is possible that there have been others. Not only that it isn't just insults that he was hurling at his daughter (bad enough as they were) but threats as well. The fact is that he was definitely out of control in that conversation.
Yes, my parents yelled at me, heck they even spanked me but they never yelled at me the way he did and they never ever gave me reason to think I was in danger the way he did.
We don't know that this is the only incident. It is possible that there have been others. Not only that it isn't just insults that he was hurling at his daughter (bad enough as they were) but threats as well. The fact is that he was definitely out of control in that conversation.
Exactly. We don't know. Perhaps it also IS the only incident, and in an ugly divorce, it's been blown up. Again, it's been brought to the court of public opinion instead of divorce court.
Not knowing anything other than that message, perhaps the child is a brat who needs some discipline.
Is this girl an actress or anything? I still am not buying that she has her own publicist, unless she's some sort of actress.
One thing : "Good father" That kind of people I never trust !
Oh please; be realistic. What 11 year old is savvy enough to use the media like that; and more importantly, what 11 year old wants the world to know she's been called a thoughtless pig?
No doubt... How exactly does this 11 year old have access to the media? Does she have a publicity manager?
An 11 year old who's been in the spot light since she was a baby will be savvy enough, this is common sense. She has access to publicity managers and the media. Many of you don't realize this because you were never famous. Moreover let's not act like 11-year-olds are mindless little babies that can't be angry and react. In fact they are more emotional than adults and are more likely to want to hit back. Kim may be instigating but that does not justify his actions, obviously the court recognized he has a problem before the leak. The TMZ said that they got the voice-mail legally, which sounds like they got it directly from Ireland. How could the TMZ possibly get it legally from Kim if she was under a court order not to release the message (remember they have lawyers too) . Don't be surprised when the court paper says Ireland released her own voice-mail.
Just imagine what could possibly be going on in her head. That abuse sounds chronic, sure you can't get angry at a child, but if Kim is instigating things why did he abuse his daughter ? Why did he need to call his daughter a little pig and curse at her, if it was the mothers fault ? Even his apology and excuse to the media was weak. Many 11 year-olds are smart enough to release the voice-mail, especially if they want to get back at their parents for hurting them. Moreover if a child is being abused, the community should react, it is our business.
It's stil waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more likely it was released by the mother, not the child. It's odd how people hate to think Kim did it, but will believe a kid did.
I don't hate to think Kim did it. She's been as bad a parent as Alec throughout this divorce.
(It's weird to me that people seem to overlook that because she's the mom.)
What worries me is that the tape of AB will be aired 24/7.
Why the battle for the girl?
The girl belongs to the mother unless extraordinary circumstances call that KB is unfit to raise her daughter.
He's a less talented version of John Travolta.
Who cares?
He's a less talented version of John Travolta.
Alec Baldwin can dance? (Not saying Travolta can - that is still a matter of opinion)
Say what you will about him personally -- but Alec Baldwin is not untalented. Nor is he "less" talented than John Travolta. (I realize that is a subjective opinion -- but you can look at their recent output and get a good idea.)
Baldwin is critically acclaimed in several recent films (one a multiple Oscar nominee) and is also critically acclaimed (and me acclaimed) in the sitcom 30 Rock.
Travolta is in a second-rate remake of City Slickers -- substituting motorcycles for horses.
He'll always have Pulp Fiction -- but his gravestone will mention Battlefield Earth.
Oh, please. Alec is famous for his TTTs and also, Travolta learned how to fly his plane.
The problem is the Media that fed up us w/the intimate life of Anna Nicole 24/7, now we have the battle for an 11 years old. This is tabloid quality quarrels.
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