Republicans Touch on Abortion in Debate
SIMI VALLEY, CALIF. — Alone among 10 Republican presidential contenders, Rudy Giuliani said in campaign debate Thursday night "it would be OK" if the Supreme Court upholds a 1973 abortion rights ruling.
"It would be OK to repeal it. It would be OK also if a strict constructionist viewed it as precedent," said the former New York city mayor, who has a record of supporting abortion rights.
His nine rivals agreed that it would be a great day if the court overturns the landmark ruling.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney acknowledged he had changed his mind on the subject when he began to delve into the issue of cloning. He said his position had once effectively been "pro-choice."
But Giuliani hedged when asked about his present position.
"I think the Court has to make that decision and then the country can deal with it," he said.
The issue of abortion looms large in the 2008 Republican presidential campaign as a wide swath of the party's activists support the overturning of the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling.
Both Romney and Giuliani must persuade conservative voters they are ready to embrace that view — or else persuade them to overlook the issue in picking a candidate for the White House.
Alone among the top three contenders, Arizona Sen. John McCain has a career-long record of opposition to abortion.
Giuliani, McCain and Romney were the first among 10 equals on the debate stage at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library — the men with the most money and the best approval ratings in the polls more than eight months before the first 2008 national convention delegates are picked.
Other participants included Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas; former Govs. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, Tommy Thompson of Wisconsin, Jim Gilmore of Virginia, and Reps. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, Duncan Hunter of California and Ron Paul of Texas. © 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
I know it is hard to believe, but in these times of strife and division, the most important topic to the GOP is restricting a womans rights.
I will say for mccain whom i no longer support, he is a real true republican when it comes to pork.
If he hadn't bowed to bush so many times, especially on the torture law, he really might have been the GOP's savior. But right now he is nothing more than another nail.
Warning, very mixed live coverage, hostil rant, inteeruptions and now no time to read or fix, the links are good and perhaps incoherent reaction is clinical evidence that listening to politicnonsense, brain function is reduced. I couldn't stand hearing it go solid so I made cookies and turned off the beater to check Rudy kept saying 9/11, Reagan and whatever I missed it seemed the other one was saying it too so using the beater worked fine. However mangled this is can't be worse than them and the cookies are awesome, go mom!
We kick off here with "Bin Laden is orchestrating other plots" everyone, Mc Cain's going to the Gates of Hell to catch him. What are you waiting for??? Go and get him, truthfully I'm relieved at least one person remembers Osama and I hope I get to see a 2007 Osama tape when we get close to a vote event. Seems unfair to call it an election. They don't have a problem counting when it's per text message, got every fee that called.
The candidates looks like the Jeopardy home game, largly, marble mouthed, buzz word stuffed repetitions of nothing but words. Going into round who knows, bad game show, we have some drivvel about ID cards, tamperpfroof, 9/11 commission. We kicked it off with a bunch of ride 'em cowboy we can get Osama Bin Laden, the Islamoo Facists are at the gate and they will strap bombs to their children to come and kill you.
Meanwhile in Iraq mothers cower with their babies and wonder if this will be the night that the bombs will come, or packs of men with guns will kick down your doors and God only knows what. Death has soaked the blood of Iraq for years, how many total bodies and parts? How many at at Walter Reed saw their care filter off to Dan Quale's Pockets? The IAP World is the corporate Board, private contractor.
I gag as I hear them talk about abortion and stem cells and not one word to the families, the victims the innocent lives destroyed in Iraq. What the heck they are babbling about much of the time is beyond me. It feels like a deju vu mushroom event but cross my heart, it's not.
War on terror, mushroom clouds, Reagan, Reagan, Reagan, people make America great, universal ID cards? Then we slide into some Cold War, reorder Iraq, push to a stable situation, put it into a Federalist I made up all these words from my Scrabble , but we'll say Osama Iraq, oil revenue, diplomatic, health care.
John McCain, folks, he was a prisoner, we should just make him really comfortable, maybe introduce him to the Wii.
Rudy, looking like the skull of Gerinomo in the Bonesman's Crypt, every time I look at him. And his message, ..." 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, remind people as Republicans, people were fearful for a long time and I'm an optimist, 9/11, 9/11". I have more of him, he's going to get Osama, someone is.
Ron Paul seemed to be the only one with a brain but some of the others like the one who couldn't stop in time, ever, hello mr special, short bus, never cared to catch the name. They are all full of sh*t.
There's more grim words and old dead guy names than you have looked at since high school history.
Then we have McCain was talking about how he can reach across the aisle and he would reach to Silicon Valley and ask for them to come help America if he were in the Oval Office. Hello?
WTF isn't that something you could get Silicon Valley to do for the Senate. Like ask some googler wiz kids try to find those White House e-mails. I get that it's a good plan for President how about getting help tracking those budgets? How's Bechtel doing? Fun bunch, Mitt Romney's Big Doy allies and a war going on. Dow to 15,000 we can keep destroying things till 2012.
Catherine Austin Fitts, all the short stories of missing evidence and missing money and Bechtel Crime chioce with Mc Coydillon read, bush brady, bechtel. McCone is just fun....
ninnies behind me talking about the honesty of atheism, hey we don't need values and prisons, we need a living wages, pure water, clean air, pure food and we don't need to worry about a suicide bomber when BP and the rest of the petro boys pump out endless toxins. Here's a great example, people the neighborhood chosen for the nerve gas.
Ooops, is this the year that President Bush signed the Executive Order to stop disclosing toxic waste sites? Ooops, %$#@ happens, no need to bother us while we're in Iraq, killing Islamo Fascists and their babies so we can keep running the refinery behind you here. Heck of a job and they do it well for themselves, now home much more of the nerve gas and other petrochemical wast they have stashed in all those base warehouses.
That's the game, ship and stockpile the waste and bill to Uncle Sam. Now their containers are old and it all needs some where to go, controlled, trust us, around the refineries near the hurricane refinery alley, Gulf. Who to kill and how slowly? Terrorists? Burning Nerve Gas in Texas. Sure, it's safe and say Osama again to make me feel read for my chemo.
nope no McCone link and that's the right spelling on the name McCone, *smirk* so long as it's another box here's Mitt Romney, Bain Capital, partners with Carlyle in Baskin Robbins and Dunkin Donuts, most Monsanto corn, soy and dairy you can pump people up on. Take that home feel to the front and of course some health care.
GOP Debate Focuses on Iraq War, Abortion
Headline 10:52...that must be what parsing with analysts helps to do...
I know it is hard to believe, but in these times of strife and division, the most important topic to the GOP is restricting a womans rights.
And on the issue more Americans list as a number one priority, the Iraq war, they all bascially endorse more the same failed approach.
At least most of them were willing to admit the obvious, 70% believe in evolution.
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger escorts Nancy Reagan to her seat as they arrive for the first republican presidential primary debate of the 2008 election at the Ronald Reagan Library, Thursday, May 3, 2007, in Simi Valley, Calif. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)
I just don't know how to describe my impression of the pic. I am pulled between pitiful and maudlin. This past week, I had the pleasure of reading David Brooks well crafted impressions of the state of Republicanism as it is in our time. I have no memory of such a stretch for a failed party. Even Jimmy Carter hied on back to Georgia to let his legacy heal and mellow. He did it pretty much in private. Bill Clinton? He parked his chips on red and let it build.
"Mommy" and that Austrian fellow, pitiful. Just pitiful.
LB
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