Hilton Sent Back to Jail in Hysterics

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{"commentId":768544,"authorDomain":"economist"}
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{"commentId":768597,"authorDomain":"epiphany-sorbet"}

But, this isn't the way it's supposed to be in Amurrika. What's money for if not to avoid realities like this that regular people would have to face?

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Reply#2 - Fri Jun 8, 2007 9:37 PM EDT
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{"commentId":768654,"authorDomain":"bartning"}

I stated my disagreement to privilege in court in a different article. With some corrections and not major changes it goes:

I disagree that wealth or money should have anything to do with it. Many claim our country's largely based on John Lock's Second Treatise of Government— (1690) which says in its section, "Of Civil Government" in Chapter 6 on "Of the Extent of Legislative Power," that the law should be applied equally. Hobbes talks in it a similar fashion, but Locke says society's boundaries include having"promulgated established laws, not to be varied in particular cases, but to have one rule for rich and poor, for the favourite at court, and the country man at plough." John Locke was a very wealthy and successful doctor too.

Paris has already served more time than Michelle Rodriguez, arguably a more popular actress but certainly not richer nor more public than Ms. Hilton. Her deserving release has nothing to do with wealth. It has to do with justice and fairness. Michelle also got accused and convicted of more serious crimes. People's rights are being abused by Judge Sauer and the LA prosecutor, especially Paris's.

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#2.2 - Fri Jun 8, 2007 10:10 PM EDT
{"commentId":769069,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

regular people showing that kind of defiance to a judge who has shown u lenience in the past WOULD go to jail.
And yeah some people can talk themselves into more than average time.

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  • 5 votes
#2.3 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 5:11 AM EDT
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{"commentId":769283,"authorDomain":"epiphany-sorbet"}

bartleby - the judge is probably making an example of her because of her high profile. Everyone can read about continuing to violate the law. Yes this goes on all the time with "regular people", but most people don't know about it. When you have a high profile scofflaw like Paris out there, well, something needs to be done. It's one thing for the police to claim they can't monitor everyone on probation and another to be confronted with one who is breaking the law over and over and they aren't taking any action.

I posted a seed about the Sheriff. It seems his rank and file are accusing him of being a celebrity groupie.

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#2.5 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 10:07 AM EDT
{"commentId":769289,"authorDomain":"economist"}
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{"commentId":769295,"authorDomain":"epiphany-sorbet"}

bartleby 2.6

Um, you're kind of firm in your opinions, huh?

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  • 2 votes
#2.7 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 10:18 AM EDT
{"commentId":769360,"authorDomain":"kallestad"}
No, regular people generally just get their license suspended, pay a fine, and do some community service.

LOL. I can tell you've never been in trouble with the law.

Let me tell you how it would go down for a regular person.

The DUI wouldn't have gotten dropped to reckless driving.
If it did, it wouldn't have been fines and probation.
If it did, the lock-up for violating probation would have been for more than 45 days.
If it was 45 days, the "good-time" deduction would be a maybe and not a guarantee.
If somehow, a regular person managed to actually get home-detention in violation of a court order, and the judge found out you showed up at 2 minutes to midnight to get a free day credit after publicly partying, the sentence would have been extended with a contempt citation.
A regular person doesn't get the Sheriff to compalin publicly about the sentence.
A regular person doesn't get days where the county employees get their time eaten up with phony psychology BS counted as "good behavior" days.
A regular person gets beat up, raped, and put into a suicidal condition and not a soul at the correctional facility will even consider moving that person to "home release".

You might think that it's all fun and games when you get busted by the cops, but believe me it's not. Cops, Judges, and Correctional Officers have very little sympathy for people who get caught driving on a suspended license twice on probation for reckless driving dealt down from a DUI, and certainly NO sympathy for those who get teary eyed because they ended up in a private room in the slammer.

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  • 9 votes
#2.8 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 11:08 AM EDT
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{"commentId":769442,"authorDomain":"kallestad"}

Try again. I know someone who went through it. Jail Time + probation + a breathalyzer monitor to keep the car running. First offense. Two blocks from home in a residential neighborhood. No accident. Barely blew over the limit. The financial ramifications lasted years - from defense attorney costs to car insurance premiums to the increased cost of financing a car to the cost of equipment that had to get installed in the car and so on and so on.

People like Paris Hilton get out of it. Regular people don't. I'd even go so far as to say that money and fame doesn't matter in a lot of communities outside of LA.

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#2.10 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 11:55 AM EDT
{"commentId":769444,"authorDomain":"epiphany-sorbet"}

Steve, since MADD has been instrumental in the crackdown on DUI, where are they in the Paris case?

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#2.11 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 11:58 AM EDT
{"commentId":769452,"authorDomain":"economist"}
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{"commentId":769683,"authorDomain":"kallestad"}

Good point epiphany. Something tells me a few dollars in the right pockets kept them away. This is too high profile of a case for them not to show up with signs and pitchforks asking for donations.

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#2.13 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 2:17 PM EDT
{"commentId":769705,"authorDomain":"epiphany-sorbet"}

Steve @ 2.13

And your point is even more excellent.

grrrrrr DUI is DUI, no matter who is doing the D U I.

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#2.14 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 2:31 PM EDT
{"commentId":770681,"authorDomain":"bartning"}
And yeah some people can talk themselves into more than average time.

What about the right against self incrimination?

LOL. I can tell you've never been in trouble with the law.

Let me tell you how it would go down for a regular person.

The DUI wouldn't have gotten dropped to reckless driving.
If it did, it wouldn't have been fines and probation.
If it did, the lock-up for violating probation would have been for more than 45 days.
If it was 45 days, the "good-time" deduction would be a maybe and not a guarantee.
If somehow, a regular person managed to actually get home-detention in violation of a court order, and the judge found out you showed up at 2 minutes to midnight to get a free day credit after publicly partying, the sentence would have been extended with a contempt citation.
A regular person doesn't get the Sheriff to compalin publicly about the sentence.
A regular person doesn't get days where the county employees get their time eaten up with phony psychology BS counted as "good behavior" days.
A regular person gets beat up, raped, and put into a suicidal condition and not a soul at the correctional facility will even consider moving that person to "home release".

From what I've seen, people purger themselves in court more than getting properly charged with a crime by the DA. They get away with a lot, lie to judges. Lawyers also violate court rules and judges' rulings and get away with it. Isn't that contempt of court?

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  • 1 vote
#2.15 - Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:34 AM EDT
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{"commentId":768617,"authorDomain":"ultimategfx"}

THAT'S HOT!

Sorry. I couldn't resist.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Jun 8, 2007 9:50 PM EDT
{"commentId":768627,"authorDomain":"schwab"}

*tear*

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    Reply#4 - Fri Jun 8, 2007 9:57 PM EDT
    {"commentId":768631,"authorDomain":"MGDasef"}

    Having raised a bad boy son who spent time, ALL the time, he was sentenced to, I just tell her to buck up and quit acting like the spoiled brat she's shown herself to be.

    By the way, my son was thrown in the slammer for speeding and then driving while suspended. No drinking, no drugs, no accidents. Stupid, but nobody got hurt either.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Jun 8, 2007 10:00 PM EDT
    {"commentId":768721,"authorDomain":"forager"}

    i bet the whole thing is a show....she planned to end up in jail etc. its been her M.O. all the way. She has no talents other then being on the front page.

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#6 - Fri Jun 8, 2007 10:55 PM EDT
    {"commentId":768800,"authorDomain":"unplugged"}

    I assume this will all spark 45 days of consecutive Paris Hilton coverage on Nancy Grace.

    Hallelujah.

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      Reply#7 - Fri Jun 8, 2007 11:32 PM EDT
      {"commentId":768830,"authorDomain":"freeheadset"}
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      {"commentId":768847,"authorDomain":"dan-2"}

      Our fascination with Paris Hilton is baffling...but, I came up with some things that her "career" can teach anyone who is running a business.

      The round the clock news coverage in unexplainable.

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        Reply#9 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 12:11 AM EDT
        {"commentId":768977,"authorDomain":"janneodegard"}

        this shouldn't be front page.

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          Reply#10 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 2:04 AM EDT
          {"commentId":769036,"authorDomain":"usproblogger"}
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            Reply#11 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 3:31 AM EDT
            {"commentId":769053,"authorDomain":"feralgrin"}

            Linda Deutsch (if indeed she's the same one by that name) wasn't such a sensationalist slug when she was at Mizzou. Not sure who exactly she's working for now, aside from the AP credit. Does anyone know?

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            • 1 vote
            Reply#12 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 4:29 AM EDT
            {"commentId":769073,"authorDomain":"DrBlockbuster"}

            Dr Blockbuster agrees with Bartleby though less harshly.

            Paris Hilton needs to calm down to a panic :wink: and do better than her best to take the 45 days "on the chin"

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            • 2 votes
            Reply#13 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 5:34 AM EDT
            {"commentId":770211,"authorDomain":"Regg"}

            Paris Hilton on the news, and as you know, America is exposed again as a nation of hates against Latinos. I can't explain otherways why so many people calling for the incarceration of this 'Latin Angel' Paris Hilton got to be?

            Mel Gibson was 'kicking back' when arrested and still sheriff officers had to deal ugly matters, unlike Paris Hilton who still wants to be treated equal, even if 'French' still means 'Latin'.

            Anyway, Paris or Mel in jail means, we are not understanding who the real criminals are!

            At workplaces we have rampant organized crime. Wolfs in sheep's clothing taking advantage of the poor, ignorant, undereducated. From pushing ones into submission to enslave others for the unscrupulous profit on it!

            Anyway, USA Labor and Trade Union have to be a secret, just as the crimes we hide with our social gossip!

            Greetings,
            Reeg V.

            {"commentId":770211,"threadId":"111970","contentId":"764193","authorDomain":"Regg"}
              Reply#14 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 7:34 PM EDT
              {"commentId":770215,"authorDomain":"Regg"}

              Paris Hilton on the news, and as you know, America is exposed again as a nation of hates against Latinos. I can't explain otherways why so many people calling for the incarceration of this 'Latin Angel' Paris Hilton got to be?

              Mel Gibson was 'kicking back' when arrested and still sheriff officers had to deal ugly matters, unlike Paris Hilton who still wants to be treated equal, even if 'French' still means 'Latin'.

              Anyway, Paris or Mel in jail means, we are not understanding who the real criminals are!

              At workplaces we have rampant organized crime. Wolfs in sheep's clothing taking advantage of the poor, ignorant, undereducated. From pushing ones into submission to enslave others for the unscrupulous profit on it!

              Anyway, USA Labor and Trade Union have to be a secret, just as the crimes we hide with our social gossip!

              Greetings,
              Reeg V.

              {"commentId":770215,"threadId":"111970","contentId":"764193","authorDomain":"Regg"}
                Reply#15 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 7:38 PM EDT
                {"commentId":770437,"authorDomain":"conservationist"}

                Paris set out to manipulate the system, therefore she must expect the system to strike back. I have also read that the Sherrif who released her had received electioneering funds from one of her family members.

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                • 2 votes
                Reply#16 - Sat Jun 9, 2007 10:19 PM EDT
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