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{"commentId":826827,"authorDomain":"pnelson"}
"Marvel Comics" isn't the name of the comic books. It's the name of the company. Saying "the latest issue of Marvel Comics" is like saying, "the latest episode of ABC, Inc" when you mean "the latest episode of Lost".
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#1 - Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:00 PM EDT{"commentId":826951,"authorDomain":"jaawalla"}
Surprised that the AP got something wrong, are ya?
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- 7 votes
{"commentId":827739,"authorDomain":"Nartjai"}
Notice that it says "Marvel Comics'" with an apostrophe...That means it's possessive. Fallen Son is the name of the comic.
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{"commentId":828186,"authorDomain":"jaawalla"}
Yeah, I noticed they added "Fallen Son" in, but it wasn't there when we made our comments. Guess the AP got wise to their mistake.
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{"commentId":826952,"authorDomain":"jimmyhavok"}
Another nitpick: Captain America's identity hasn't been secret for a long time. His objection to registration was that it was essentially a draft of all powered individuals. Registering meant joining a government program to train and regulate everyone with superpowers, whether you wanted to join or not, and not registering meant hiding your powers or being hunted down and imprisoned or killed. He saw it as an interference with the essential liberty that is at the heart of America.
The Civil War storyline that dominated Marvel is very political. It pits the enforcers of order against the advocates of liberty, and the enforcers of order are not shy about using any tactics they think are necessary, including a prison in another dimension, beyond the reach of the law (sound familiar?).
Captain America surrenders when he realizes that the whole conflict has just become one of choosing sides and fighting, rather than a struggle toward an achievable purpose.
The fight is now over, with only a few holdouts and exiles still resisting. The enforcers of order have won, and the symbol of American freedom is dead.
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- 5 votes
#2 - Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:59 PM EDT{"commentId":827037,"authorDomain":"clrapp"}
It goes without saying... For me.. This is a SAD Day (see my avatar)!!!
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#3 - Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:46 PM EDT{"commentId":827069,"authorDomain":"jimmyhavok"}
So...do you think Steve Rogers will be back, or do you think the shield will be passed to someone else?
Rogers has been dead before, and they did say that the super-soldier serum had strange effects on his body. Could it be a slow-motion version of Wolverine's healing factor?
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{"commentId":827079,"authorDomain":"clrapp"}
God I hope so Jimmy!
That is an interesting point I hadn't considered!
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{"commentId":827176,"authorDomain":"jimmyhavok"}
Bucky/Winter Soldier has made a bid for the shield...maybe he'll carry it for a while.
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{"commentId":827209,"authorDomain":"clrapp"}
Probably so.
Bucky will be the man for awhile at least...
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":827207,"authorDomain":"robseth"}
Folks, no one stays dead in comics, horror or sci-fi. Examples: Superman, Mr. Spock, The Flash, Hawkeye, Buffy or Captain Marvel. This is a marketing ploy to increase sales while playing on people's emotions, that's all. Trust me, Captain America will be back one way or another.
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#4 - Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:19 PM EDT{"commentId":827208,"authorDomain":"clrapp"}
Good point.
You are probably right.
I hope so, at least...
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{"commentId":827733,"authorDomain":"jimmyhavok"}
This is a marketing ploy
It appears you haven't read the stories. That makes it a lot easier to render up an opinion. I think Jimmy Palmiotti wanted to make a political point, and I think he did a good job of it.
They'll have to publish Captain America stories, to protect the trademark, but with the current trend in comics of re-examining old stories (e.g. the two recent Earth's Mightiest Heroes retellings of Avengers' history), they could do it without reviving him. Though that won't necessarily be the route they take, I suspect Steve Rogers is just too much at the heart of the Marvel Universe to leave him dead for long. He has the place in the Marvel Universe that Superman has in the DC universe.
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{"commentId":828388,"authorDomain":"robseth"}
Actually I have. Along with all the Civil War books. Not to mention I've been Marvel/DC/Independent books since the age of 5 (I'm now going on 42). If you think Marvel or any other publishing/entertainment medium is above making a few bucks off current events or trends, you're deluding yourself. Are you familiar with such crapfests as "Operation Galactic Storm"?
And I don't deny Palmiotti did a great job on this book. I just wish he'd do more stuff like this and less on other works like Painkiller Jane.
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{"commentId":829265,"authorDomain":"jimmyhavok"}
Are you familiar with such crapfests as "Operation Galactic Storm"?
I've been careful in my buying, so I am not.
I thought Civil War was going to be one of those crossover "big events" that are just marketing crap to draw in a few more buyers for slow titles (like House of M or The Latest Really Big Crisis to Fix Continuity), but I heard several interviews with Palmiotti that made me think I should give it a chance, and after a couple of weeks, I actually went and bought back issues of the titles I had missed.
I felt like the crossover elements were extremely well handled, I especially liked seeing the same events from different perspectives in different titles, but the political aspect was what really hooked me.
To me, it shows the importance of a strong editor with a coherent idea of the entire story arc to coordinate the efforts of a crew of writers. It's a great example of what can be done with a collaborative art form like comics on a larger scale than just one title.
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{"commentId":829055,"authorDomain":"bartning"}
Good info on a sad day!
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#5 - Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:44 PM EDT{"commentId":829059,"authorDomain":"bartning"}
Clipping to Open Mic...
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#6 - Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:46 PM EDT{"commentId":832884,"authorDomain":"dereknorton"}
This is really a tragic event. I don't claim to be any comic book guru, but I think it's a sad day when such a prominant character that has been around as long as I can remember is voluntarily retired.
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#7 - Mon Jul 2, 2007 10:48 PM EDT{"commentId":832987,"authorDomain":"clrapp"}
I totally agree DN.
A sad, sad day it is...
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{"commentId":833170,"authorDomain":"jimmyhavok"}
It was done for a reason. Palmiotti is making a political statement about the state of America today.
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{"commentId":838056,"authorDomain":"racedriver308"}
If this is a political statement (and comics have never been subtle with their metaphors), then I think that we really do have to "wait and see." Even the writers don't know, now, whether the essential liberties Captain America (and our nation itself) stood for will ever be fully restored, or whether the totalitarian regime will prevail in the name of "keeping us safe."
Captain America is dead, but we're supposed to believe that we are safer without him. Sad, indeed.
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#8 - Wed Jul 4, 2007 5:07 PM EDT{"commentId":7663420,"authorDomain":"robseth"}
I'm shocked. Completely shocked.
And guess what? I. WAS. RIGHT. Expect Joey the Q to be shilling on Colbert any time now.
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#9 - Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:42 PM EDT{"commentId":10403931,"authorDomain":"breelaboy"}
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