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Atlanta Considers Banning Baggy Pants

Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:39 AM EDT
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RETLAW

Am I the only one who thinks that having the police checking out boys and girls underwear is a little oddd?? Like maybe making them pedophiles??

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:04 AM EDT
Belarius

The proposed ordinance states that "the indecent exposure of his or her undergarments" would be unlawful in a public place.

The indecent exposure of undergarments? Where do these people come from? The 17th century? What's next, a ban on visible ankles?

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:30 PM EDT
Eco-geek

I wouldn't put it past them. Note that it's still illegal to sell alcohol on Sunday in Georgia, unless in a bar or restaurant.

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:42 PM EDT
Tacitus13

So what state do you live in, Eco-freak? I'm pretty sure I can find some antiquated/moronic things that you do there too...

For the record, I live in GA and I have no desire to see anyone else's underwear or ass crack nor do I drink.

    #2.2 - Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:25 AM EDT
    Eco-geek

    Uh...I live in Georgia, hence why I'm a bit familiar with the laws here.

    I don't really want to see anyone else's underwear or ass crack either (with a possible few exceptions), but to pass a law for a dress code like this is pretty damn ridiculous (about as ridiculous as banning liquor sales on Sunday).

      #2.3 - Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:41 AM EDT
      Tim Fabiniak

      (I live in Georgia.)

      If bikinis are okay on the beach, why is showing underwear not okay in public? Indecency doesn't seem like the sort of thing that can have a locational element, you know? Admittedly, it's not appropriate to wear a bikini (or just underwear) in a nice restaurant, but that doesn't mean it should be against the law.

      It makes me sad that we find it necessary to legislate against everything we dislike.

      Oh, and the blue laws (no sale of alcohol on Sunday) are *ridiculous.* Please give me a non-religious reason (as we do live in a country where laws are based on individual rights, not religion) why alcohol cannot be sold on Sunday alone. Anybody?

      • 1 vote
      #2.4 - Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:34 PM EDT
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      alacroix

      This sounds like an attack on personal liberties. I agree that we are not in the 17th century anymore, and people should be able to make their own personal choices, as long as they don't harm other people. This is ridiculous... what is next, all women in burkas??

      • 1 vote
      Reply#3 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:05 PM EDT
      Collin

      This is entirely an attack on personal liberties. It is ridiculous to even consider. When stuff like this starts passing, I am moving to Cuba.

        #3.1 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:50 PM EDT
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        Eric Atienza

        Look on the bright side. In about 50 years Atlanta can look forward to declaring its independence from England.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:32 PM EDT
        Steele

        The Michael Vick effect....

          Reply#5 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:44 PM EDT
          Defektiv

          i'll say the same thing i said on digg:

          so let me get this straight. we stand by and grit our teeth while law enforcement agencies approve the use of and abuse the crap out of lethal and semi-lethal weapons to make the job easier for their lazy arses. and they STILL can't fight crime and have to force everyone else to be potentially profiled for this crap?

          i'm not denying that gang activity and the like need policed but ffs, when was the last time the police have EVER been able to profile correctly? the core of the issue here is that cops (not all) are cowards. they don't WANT to put themselves in danger and/or fight the real criminals.

          all this will result in is a few more gangsters caught before they turn violent and a LOT more innocent people being categorized with the rest of them. when are we going to learn that we can't trust the judgement of police and politicians?! if we need them to do something, we have to spell it out clearly and leave NO room for interpretation. otherwise they're going to screw it up and we all will pay for it.

          there is absolutely NO reason why we should have to live in fear of what we wear b/c some cop might think we're a gansta because he's too stupid to use a bit of common sense.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#6 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:29 PM EDT
          kiml

          Who are the radicals?
          In some Islamic countries women have to wear Burkas.
          Now in some US states people can't show underwear.
          A lot of Plumbers are going to be charged for showing their plumbers smile!
          I was a long-haired flower child of the 60's.
          Almost all kids are going to rebel in someway.
          Let them.
          And let them grow up to understand their world and change it to suit them.
          We tried and look at the world today.
          We screwed up.
          Let this generation try.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#7 - Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:53 PM EDT
          Cooky

          America - land of the free!!!!!!!!!!

            Reply#8 - Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:01 AM EDT
            Cooky

            To quote Mr. Martin. "We know there are First Amendment issues ... and some will say I'm just trying to put young black men in jail, but it's going to be fines."

            So the target IS young BLACK men!

            Young whites need not wear any undergarments in public viz. Britney, Paris et al.

            As I said: America - land of the free!!!

              Reply#9 - Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:18 AM EDT
              Ian S.

              When I was in middle school (in Georgia), I didn't live in the best neighborhood. To curb behavior problems and bad influence, school administrators walked the halls with a spool of yellow rope, ready to be used as a makeshift belt should a student's pants sag below the waist. And this was not just for show, it was used quite often. I fully supported it and still do; it taught the students how to dress more appropriately and helped the rest of us who didn't care to see anyone else's undergarments. I think the same benefits would occur if this were implemented city-wide in Atlanta.

                Reply#10 - Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:25 PM EDT
                Tim Fabiniak

                We couldn't wear shirts with any words on them with brand names being a notable exception. So... a shirt that says "fcuk" was okay, but my Tool shirt which said only "Tool" was not.

                  #10.1 - Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:41 AM EDT
                  Collin

                  Ian, it is one thing to have a school, restaurants and other businesses which have dress codes. When you are talking about private organizations and schools there isn't much wrong with enforcing a dress code.

                  That is not something that should be extended to government or laws. It's not about whether or not you or anyone else likes to see some dudes underwear. I can think of much worse to see. I certainly don't have any interest in that style of dressing but unlike you and people who think like you. I am perfectly OK with rolling my eyes and keeping my disgust to myself because it's not my place to tell some kid to pull his pants up. The truth that people seem to forget is that America was once a great country because those who would suggest taking any rights away were the ones who were likely to be spit on. It doesn't matter if you don't like it. Or at least is shouldn't matter. No harm is really caused to us because we don't like that idiotic style.

                  "Little children see it and want to adopt it, thinking it's the in thing," Martin said Wednesday. "I don't want young people thinking that half-dressing is the way to go. I want them to think about their future."

                  I love this. So clearly this idiot Martin is just wanting to push his own style and values on other people. There is nothing more to this attempt at removing the rights of Americans. Kids see this and want to adopt it.. Big deal! I remember some PRETTY bad styles, including the baggy pants and visible underwear when I was in school and it seems that almost all those people I knew have become first class citizens tucking their shirt in and everything. Those who became nothing but scum were destined to go that way with or without baggy pants. Does this guy really suggest that a kid can't possibly think of his future because he has bad fashion sense?

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.2 - Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:39 PM EDT
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                  GavinD

                  I can't believe this. How could any moron actually come up with an idea like this? This is America. This country was started because we were being oppressed and taken advantage of by the British government. Now the American government is going to try to fine people for what they wear? How could ANYONE support this and consider themselves a rational human being, much less a citizen of the "land of the free"? How about we ban speedos too? Most people don't want to see a guys package hanging around. And while we are at it, we can ban women's pants that show their legs, too.
                  Jesus christ, this country depresses me.

                    Reply#11 - Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:11 PM EDT
                    Collin

                    GavinD, I am constructing a space craft and plan to seek out a new planet to colonize. You sound like you might be interested in such a venture. If so here is what we need. First about a billion dollars, give or take. I also have a time-transducing arithmetical warp generator problem to solve before we set sail. Without warp speed we will never make it in our lifetime.

                      #11.1 - Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:20 PM EDT
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                      D-Ballz

                      This is ridiculous, yet another piece of evidence that the government are just a bunch of idiots.

                      I may not be American (I'm English) but I still think this is stupid. We have a guy called David Cameron here, who started a campaign called "Hug a hoody" meaning the people who go around outside, attacking and sometimes killing people for a laugh, the people who steal cars and then burn them, the people who if you so much as said the words "Shut up" would stab you. And he says to hug these scum?

                      No @!$%#ing way.

                      The same goes for this idea of baggy pants in the USA. What's he trying to do? A strict dress code? How will it be enforced even if it does pass? You can't have a policeman monitoring every single person just to see if their underwear is showing. He's trying to take people's freedom, piece by piece. The same thing is happening here. I say @!$%# the government.

                      We are all human beings, and human beings are supposed to be free. They are taking our freedom, little by little, day by day.

                        Reply#12 - Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:06 PM EDT
                        Collin

                        Hard to disagree with you D. This is a joke. I don't blame government. I blame citizens. Idiotic things like this start at the very bottom of government here in the states. I think that candidates need to be screened before they are allowed to run for any government position. I'm talking psychological exams, IQ tests and complete background checks. all made public. Mostly I think we need to remind city counsel members that they do not @!$%#ing own us.

                        They are the same people who live in your neighborhood and make it their mission in life to have you cut down a tree that drops to many leaves or shades their house too much or whatever. Basically the people who need to mind their own @!$%#ing business. I say if clothing is ever the top issue then that is a good sign. But these people don't need to justify their paychecks by creating issues where none exist.

                        I feel bad for you. The EU and countries in Europe are way worse at taking rights away. But not for long. We are going in the same direction as you. Just remember that 50 years ago (or less) the British would chemically castrate you if it was found out that you had relations with another man. Now I am not gay but you don't have to be to know how @!$%#ed up that @!$%# is. Let a guy be gay and mind your own business! The government is supposed to serve people, not rule over them!

                          #12.1 - Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:53 PM EDT
                          D-Ballz

                          Yup, exactly. This sort of @!$%# needs to end. The government are interfering too much with people's lives...

                          Worst of all, we have possibly the worst candidate for Prime Minister ever to have lived, doing pretty well right now. I'm talking, of course, about David Cameron. All he ever does is just stand there and call Gordon Brown names, and then come up with the stupidest ideas ever. Hug a hoody? If you did that here you'd be more likely to be stabbed than hugged back. Webcameron? Stupidest idea ever.

                          The government here is a joke, we may as well make the Monster Raving Loony Party serious candidates. They'd probably do better than Cameron.

                          The UK is probably the worst of all the European countries for things like this. Pretty soon loud music and smoking will be banned in cars. BDSM is also being banned. There are many, many things that the government here is screwing up. They aren't letting firemen slide down the pole in some places. Why? Minor chafing. So now they have to run down the stairs as fast as they can. What could that result in? Broken bones. Yeah, our government is brilliant at making decisions.

                          So, yeah, the American government is going the same way as us. Lets just hope you pick the right president this time, and lets hope the UK picks to keep Gordon Brown, he may make some hollow promises, but at least he isn't a total idiot.

                            #12.2 - Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:43 PM EDT
                            Collin

                            There is no escaping. I am directly descended from the European escapees who voyaged across on the infamous Mayflower. We escaped it just to rebuilt what we were escaping from. Shame.

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