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{"commentId":991898,"authorDomain":"ultimategfx"}
Honestly, who gives a @!$%#ing @!$%#? I hate it when famous people try to become spokespersons for politics or whatever bull@!$%# movement they feel is going to change the world. Go back to being a sub-par actor and let the AP put some real news on the front page of Newsvine.
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- 3 votes
#1 - Sat Sep 1, 2007 9:37 AM EDT{"commentId":992797,"authorDomain":"craftyplatypus"}
To be fair, why should anyone care what any of us on Newsvine think either? Celebrities are people too, they should have opinions about politics; we should all have opinions about politics so we can participate in them. It seems commendable to me when these "famous people try to become spokespersons" because it's putting their celebrity to a good use. Isn't that something a lot of us regular people complain about, that famous people don't do anything worthwhile? And why is supporting a movement to try to change the world a bad thing? I should think that apathy about the world is far worse.
What we should be more upset about, and you hit on this a bit, is that the AP is reporting this. Not just that they're telling us what some guy said, but that they are reporting as news the off-the-cuff remarks of someone at a non-political, non-newsworthy function.
{"commentId":992797,"threadId":"145290","contentId":"935461","authorDomain":"craftyplatypus"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":994409,"authorDomain":"ultimategfx"}
You're right. People shouldn't have to care about what we think. Then again, they don't have to care about what anyone else thinks either. If you want to get your voice out there then I believe everything needs to start at bringing a good point across to others.
George Clooney, along with many other celebrities use their popularity as a reason for the media to listen. These celebrities are allowed an opinion, but who is to say it's going to be an informed one? I reckon it's a sad world when parties need to rely on celebrities to sell their points.
My main point though, is that this is a poor story to put on the front page of Newsvine, considering there are some amazing stories floating around at the moment.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":994839,"authorDomain":"craftyplatypus"}
My main point though, is that this is a poor story to put on the front page of Newsvine, considering there are some amazing stories floating around at the moment.
Well put. We certainly agree on that.
If you want to get your voice out there then I believe everything needs to start at bringing a good point across to others.
And we agree on that as well.
Overall I think we have mostly the same opinion, bu I have to disagree on one point. I suspect that you are right to question whether an opinion is informed, celebrity or not, but Clooney doesn't fall into that category. If you read the transcript of his February 16, 2006 interview on Larry King Live, I think you'll find that he's quite informed. He fields questions about his politics (ranging from wire tapping to his political films), his beliefs, his father's run for congress, his philanthropy, and his dealings with pundits for the opposing views.
My point is that George Clooney may very well be one of the most informed people using his "popularity as a reason for the media to listen" and it's the work that people like him do that could bring "a good point across to others." I agree that his off-handed remarks about an election are not newsworthy, but give the man his due. His comments seem far less suspect than the average person's.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":994876,"authorDomain":"ultimategfx"}
I've caught a glimpse of him on the Internet talking at certain political rallys, and whilst he is 'more informed' than your average celebrity I still disagree on the whole 'using your popularity to get a point across' thing. George Clooney is an actor. If I wanted some advice on my budding acting career I'd ask him, but I don't want to read about what he thinks of his favourite candidates in the elections. A grouped article about several voters opinions and their stances on the candidates for the presidency might be a good read after the main political news, but this is a bit too far.
I think it's an American thing. No one in Britain is ever really asked about their political stances aside from what party they'll vote for and on what policies. This is what I like about politics, when all candidates will settle everything in a debate, push their policies and keep all general bull@!$%# off of the radar. As far as politics is concerned if they don't have strong policies and a belief that their view is a better view for the nation then they don't deserve a vote. As far as I'm concerned Barack Obama deserves the shot of running for presidency over Hillary Clinton based solely on his character, his policies and how he seems to relate to people. If I were American I would vote for him.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":994899,"authorDomain":"craftyplatypus"}
Fair enough.
{"commentId":994899,"threadId":"145290","contentId":"935461","authorDomain":"craftyplatypus"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":991948,"authorDomain":"epiphany-sorbet"}
Didn't we hear this gushy teeny bopper stuff about Bill Clinton, too?
Who, in their right mind, would think that equating a future President to a rock star is a selling point?
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- 3 votes
#2 - Sat Sep 1, 2007 10:16 AM EDT{"commentId":993726,"authorDomain":"thedoctori"}
Clooney is notoriously simple-minded. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but Clooney can get face-time for probably saying anything...
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{"commentId":992500,"authorDomain":"renpatel"}
He could mean "rock star" as in he's got a lot of young people excited. But no that would mean you would have to analyze both pro and con side of a statement...much easier to just criticize.
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- 2 votes
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