Bush Calls for Expansion of Spy Law

My mistake, it was the NSOC, which was National Security Operations Center. Threat seems still more scary.

Well I guess they need a new name to uphold the "Protect America Act." /eyeroll

It figures. I've been wondering who has been "emboldening" George to say these things. He certainly isn't bashful about wanting to be Big Brother.

Eh, don't go spoiling it.

That is certainly why they want to expand this and make it permanent, it's like a get of jail free card for stomping all over American citizen's rights. Privatization for all and little American flags for everyone else.

As the Telco's got left to twist in the wind, they aren't "too happy" with what the security agencies have had them do. These California lawsuits aginst them should be interesting, since the judge doesn't seem to want to exclude evidence stamped "national security" by the administration.

That would be one hell of a big class action suit, btw. How many millions of people would have standing?

Sorry, I'm not sure how many are represented. But I think it's 3 separate citizen coalition groups that have brought the suits on the major telco's. I read it in Time Online when the Dems passed the last bit of legislation, just before their summer break (whenthere was a big outcry of selling out). But the Dems are not going to give in on the retroactive immunity deal.

Well, you must admit, the law he is proposing working inside is technically illegal, so nothing much has changed.

Robbery is illegal and there is no justifiable reason to change that, so why would there be any reason to change the law regarding the theft of privacy from American citizens. It just doesn't make sense. If you're really that afraid of the terrorists, then the Bush administration has you right where they want you.

This is the same type of methodology that Louis Giuffrida, Oliver North and Bush Sr. pulled with the restructuring of FEMA to be used as an instrument of domestic anti-terrorism. These people equate political dissent with treason and they'll stop at nothing to continue eroding our rights until we are the mercy of a government that will not allow protests, demonstration or general dissent.

During the Iran-Contra affair days, Bush Sr., Oliver North, John Poindexter and William Casey had actually used FEMA to enact an emergency contingency plan that suspended the American Constitution. In the current Bush administration we have many of the same players and a number of people who are the brain children of these players, who are struggling to retool the Constitution and thereby the way the Government is allowed to proceed in cases of political threat.

These are disturbing times and we all should be vigilant and outspoken regarding these issues, so they don't fade away into a permeating secrecy that would allow our rights to be destroyed quietly from the inside.