Anti-Clinton Video Draws Web Audience

okay here is more. I did a whois for the domain hillcap.org. here is the info:Domain ID:D106126463-LROR
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If you look at the registrar, one Gary Kreep, it gets interesting. From sourcewatch we can seethat Mr. Kreep(do you believe it?)is: the president and executive director of United States Justice Foundation.

According to his USJF biography, Kreep [1]

* Co-founded the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) in 1979 with two other California attorneys. * Co-founded the Justice Political Action Committee (JPAC) in 1985 with two other conservative activists and has served as President of JPAC since then. JPAC is a federal political action committee registered with the Federal Election Commission. * Co-founded the California Justice Political Action Committee (CALJPAC) in 1996 with two other conservative activists and has served as President of CALJPAC since then. CALJPAC is a California political action committee registered with the California FPPC. * Co-founded the Family Values Coalition in 1998 with two other conservative activists and has served as President of FVC since then. FVC is a non-profit California corporation organized under IRC § 501c4. Long story -short.. the usjf is dedicated to promoting the conservative viewpoint in the American judicial system. One of those views is that assasinations of political foes of the US should be allowed.. for more on this group.. look at this url:here

Mr. Kreep (do you believe it?)

Seriously, do you ever wonder if there is a scriptwriter for these things? Every time I hear the name Dick Armey it still cracks me up.

I seeded a piece on the Peter Paul video last week, as well as the 'Orwellian' video (if that's the one they're referring to) back when it came out. It's actually a take-off on the Apple commercial from 1984.

It will be interesting to see if this gains any traction. I'm not a big fan Hillary, but not a fan of swiftboating either. Thanks for the info on the source.

MCLiepshutz,

EXCELLENT sleuthing. You should write an article about it, it's a key expose.

A sleezy move for sure but it couldn't happen to a more deserving candidate, she gets into bed with dogs.

In the 1970s, he was convicted of cocaine possession and of attempting to defraud the Cuban government of Fidel Castro....

sued the Clintons in connection with a celebrity-packed fundraiser he helped organize for her 2000 Senate race

What part of the whole picture is surprising? You do things for the money sometimes it comes back.

Personally, I wouldn't care if the guy was an axe murderer if it meant getting to meet Stan Lee ;)

Stan is the man!

I met Stan Lee long time ago at a comic book store. Seemed an affable guy.

Pam: I totally agree.. you lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

why has the Bush family ??

He had money?

Watch the video.

UM and the republicans are different? mccain had a cocaine dealer on his payroll and a male prostitute. No one was convicted of this.. (i guess this time you wont be screaming innocent before proven guilty. And last this is mega mega mega week, the clintons have had a long public history, and strange happenings from whitewater to lawyers killing themselves, surely yall could find something better. Heck the Yu thing is a bit worse.

Fox highered ollie north, who is a felon on 6 counts but was pardoned by the president.. this doesnt negate the fact he was convicted in a court of law of 6 fellonies.
worse than that poindexter, that was convicted of 9 fellonies was put in charge of the now defuncted HS total information awareness agency.. why are we putting fellons in gov? And did they put a drug addict on the supreme court?

Last hilary isnt much differnt than bush.. and i hate them both. But what i hate more than bush or hilary is false outrage while standing on unsubstantiated moral high grounds. Sure be outraged but dont pretend this is some new invention of the clintons.

and now we aired out the partisan BS, lets talk about the actual problem.. our gov is not much differnt than the mob... and sorry to inform you epiphany voting republican wont change this, belvie me we tried, they arent any different.

Y'all got pretty defensive about my question.

From the article:

The Clintons have long argued that Paul's criminal record discredits him . . .

But not enough to decline his offer to raise funds for her.

As a result of what Paul described as anti-Communist and anti-Castro political activities, he directed a fraud on the Cuban government of $8.75 million dollars by selling agents of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro nonexistent coffee. The plan apparently also involved sinking the ship that was to deliver the nonexistent coffee to hide the fraud from Castro and, according to TIME Magazine, to defraud its insurer, but the ship was abandoned in Costa Rica and never sunk. Wikipedia - Peter F. Paul

Felon? The man was simply a misunderstood patriot! And as to the cocaine thing, it was the 80's! Besides, he knows Stan Lee.

I'll get in there epi, she's dirty and one of the Capitol looters. The Clintons are part of the Iran Contra drug running operations that went into Mena airport and moved the cash through the Rose Law firm where Hillary worked as HUD loans. Bush Sr and Bil the operative pair. It's the point where the Clinton Bush values join forces, not a party line dividing them but a moral one. She's every bit the corporate soldier Bush 1 was, Dubbay is in a league of his own and dirty as the Swift Boaters are, what goes around comes around.

One little point . . . why was Hillary doing business with a convicted felon and cocaine addict in the first place?

Well, since there's a convicted felon on the NSC in the White House even as we speak, maybe she was taking a page out of the Bush family book of who to do business with. Ya think?

...why was Hillary doing business with a convicted felon and cocaine addict in the first place?

What does that matter?

2.9

Um, it matters because of Hillary's circular argument: she says that Paul is not credible because he has a criminal record - ergo, then why was she knowingly playing footsie with him?

No, you're missing my point, which was, I presumed, your point to begin with. Why is it important in any case that Peter Paul has a criminal record?

Perhaps that's best answered by a Republican:

© St. Petersburg Times, published September 29, 2000

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Over the past two years, A. Glenn Braswell has donated thousands of dollars to the Florida Republican Party and George W. Bush.

It turns out that Braswell is a convicted felon who has earned millions of dollars selling questionable pills and potions that claim to cure baldness, prostate cancer, arthritis, heart disease and other ailments. The GOP says it didn't check him out before taking his money.

But why did the Florida Republican Party and the George W. Bush campaign accept $175,000 from a convicted felon?

Florida Republican Party Chairman Al Cardenas says no political party has an investigative unit that tries to figure out who's who.

"We rely on the folks who are raising money," Cardenas said. "Our understanding was that this was a businessman in good standing and we accepted his contribution." (Source)

The point is, if you're looking for moral high ground here, there ain't any.

The point is that too many in Washington aren't worth a bag of dryer lint. They may not be guilty of breaking the fine print in the law but they sure as heck blow the spirit of fair play and trust right out the window and that's not in the ads it's in the Congress, on the job performance is an F.

We shouldn't make this about party vs. party. Take the crooked and corporate welfare conduits out of the Capitol, both sides of the aisle. Suits me find to start with Hillary, my Senator who made Goldman Sacks got their 9/11 money but the worker can go die without health benefits, yup, she's one we can lose, need to lose.

Bush ties to drug runner who bought 1 million dollars worth of billboard ads for him in 2000 election

The point is, if you're looking for moral high ground here, there ain't any.

Precisely.

Hmmm.. Why is it that (many) right wingers idolize a particular radio host who was convicted of doctor shopping and is a known drug addict?

I think she's a neocon hawk Republican masquerading as a Democrat. I just want to scream when I hear right wing talk radio calling her a liberal.

There's a real irony to that and there are probably few, true conservatives in what those meat heads call conservative either. It's bad theater and pumped up by the finest minds advertising and strategy can bring together. They sell the spin like they do snack crackers and hair gel, choosing the target market and placements, the tone, the talking points.

No one likes to make the bigger point there isn't anything they touch in Washington isn't disastrous and overpriced and they call names to keep form looking at the simple issues like 50% of the agricultural subsidies go to 22 member districts who sit on the committee and have for a decade.

Fake rage and moral indignation, name calling and media makes it through another cycle where the dead in todays "war" violence are a map with a star rushed by to debate the weighter issues of exorcising the fake skeletons so the real ones stay buried.

The www.hillcap.org link is quoted in the article. It has all the videos, actually better versions than the one on youtube. I would specutlate why the youtube link was not included is for the point of the story, about how may youtube hits the video is getting. on hillcap, you can see the video without causing more youtube hits.

Tell me what the legitimate argument was that the Swift Boaters had.

The point was, the swift boat matter is that the people Kerry served with in Vietnam had not had the opportunity to voice their opinions regarding his service. Admittedly, Kerry too, had his own opinion about their respective service, however, it was very difficult for him to express those opinions without sounding like he was just trying to get back at them. Personally, I feel the whole thing was very ugly pool, and very dishonorable of the Swift boat group in general. I think they did a huge disservice to all the people who serve in the military and could have some far reaching effects on future leaders that served in the military for our country.

Thanks uncleandy. I was afraid you were on board with that debauchery. Glad I asked first!

I have to say that the Swift Boats veterans had had the same opportunity to criticize Kerry as any other veterans get. I've also read that of the men who appeared on those very slick, very professional, very expensive Bush/Rove campaign spots, only one of them actually served with Kerry. The media was saturated with those Swift Boats spots. The voices of the many men who actually did serve with Kerry, who came to his defense, simply weren't heard. I mean, the media glommed onto that like sixty. It wasn't only the paid campaign spots. You heard about it constantly. There is a very interesting comparison between the number of times the "news" referenced the Swift Boats voices and the number of times it had anything whatsoever to say about the stories that George Bush had all these DUI's, had been a serious substance abuser, and had gone AWOL from his Guard unit. Both stories could be 100% or 100% false -- that's not my point. My point is that the media went to bat for Bush against Kerry in a big way -- I guess I should say in a corrupt, dishonest way.

Wonder if we'll ever have reliable network news ever again.

Prospero1, for some reason, the Republicans use the strategy of attacking a person's service to their country, usually something a candidate uses to bolster resume, numerous times, with no shame what so ever. It happened here in Orlando during a congressional race, where the opposing democrat was a police officer, and war veteran, who took 10 bullets to the body, and lived. As admirable as that was, the republican opposition took this aspect of his life, calling him a coward, that he took most of the bullets in the back, running away, non of which was true. However, the candidate in question, had to spend more time explaining this false hood, showing scars, x-rays, other evidence, proving he was not running away, instead of addressing the issues at hand. It is very bad pool, and I really hope the republican voters see it for what it is, a very dirty diversionary tactic.