Army Desertion Rate Up 80 Pct. Since '03

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WASHINGTON — Soldiers strained by six years at war are deserting their posts at the highest rate since 1980, with the number of Army deserters this year showing an 80 percent increase since the United States invaded Iraq in 2003.

While the totals are still far lower than they were during the Vietnam War, when the draft was in effect, they show a steady increase over the past four years and a 42 percent jump since last year.

"We're asking a lot of soldiers these days," said Roy Wallace, director of plans and resources for Army personnel. "They're humans. They have all sorts of issues back home and other places like that. So, I'm sure it has to do with the stress of being a soldier."

The Army defines a deserter as someone who has been absent without leave for longer than 30 days. The soldier is then discharged as a deserter.

According to the Army, about nine in every 1,000 soldiers deserted in fiscal year 2007, which ended Sept. 30, compared to nearly seven per 1,000 a year earlier. Overall, 4,698 soldiers deserted this year, compared to 3,301 last year.

The increase comes as the Army continues to bear the brunt of the war demands with many soldiers serving repeated, lengthy tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. Military leaders — including Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey — have acknowledged that the Army has been stretched nearly to the breaking point by the combat. Efforts are under way to increase the size of the Army and Marine Corps to lessen the burden and give troops more time off between deployments.

"We have been concentrating on this," said Wallace. "The Army can't afford to throw away good people. We have got to work with those individuals and try to help them become good soldiers."

Still, he noted that "the military is not for everybody, not everybody can be a soldier." And those who want to leave the service will find a way to do it, he said.

While the Army does not have an up-to-date profile of deserters, more than 75 percent of them are soldiers in their first term of enlistment. And most are male.

Soldiers can sign on initially for two to six years. Wallace said he did not know whether deserters were more likely to be those who enlisted for a short or long tour.

At the same time, he said that even as desertions have increased, the Army has seen some overall success in keeping first-term soldiers in the service.

There are four main ways that soldiers can leave the Army before their first enlistment contract is up:

_They are determined unable to meet physical fitness requirements.

_They are found to be unable to adapt to the military.

_They say they are gay and are required to leave under the so-called "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

_They go AWOL.

According to Wallace, in the summer of 2005, more than 18 percent of the soldiers in their first six months of service left under one of those four provisions. In June 2007, that number had dropped to about 7 percent.

The decline, he said, is largely due to a drop in the number of soldiers who leave due to physical fitness or health reasons.

Army desertion rates have fluctuated since the Vietnam War — when they peaked at 5 percent. In the 1970s they hovered between 1 and 3 percent, which is up to three out of every 100 soldiers. Those rates plunged in the 1980s and early 1990s to between 2 and 3 out of every 1,000 soldiers.

Desertions began to creep up in the late 1990s into the turn of the century, when the U.S. conducted an air war in Kosovo and later sent peacekeeping troops there.

The numbers declined in 2003 and 2004, in the early years of the Iraq war, but then began to increase steadily.

In contrast, the Navy has seen a steady decline in deserters since 2001, going from 3,665 that year to 1,129 in 2007.

The Marine Corps, meanwhile, has seen the number of deserters stay fairly stable over that timeframe — with about 1,000 deserters a year. During 2003 and 2004 — the first two years of the Iraq war — the number of deserters fell to 877 and 744, respectively.

The Air Force can tout the fewest number of deserters — with no more than 56 bolting in each of the past five years. The low was in fiscal 2007, with just 16 deserters.

Despite the continued increase in Army desertions, however, an Associated Press examination of Pentagon figures earlier this year showed that the military does little to find those who bolt, and rarely prosecutes the ones they find. Some are allowed to simply return to their units, while most are given less-than-honorable discharges.

"My personal opinion is the only way to stop desertions is to change the climate ... how they are living and doing what they need to do," said Wallace, adding that good officers and more attention from Army leaders could "go a long way to stemming desertions."

Unlike those in the Vietnam era, deserters from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars may not find Canada a safe haven.

Just this week, the Supreme Court of Canada refused to hear the appeals of two Army deserters who sought refugee status to avoid the war in Iraq. The ruling left them without a legal basis to stay in Canada and dealt a blow to other Americans in similar circumstances.

The court, as is usual, did not provide a reason for the decision.

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On the Net:

U.S. Army: http://www.us.army.mil

U.S. Navy: http://www.navy.mil

U.S. Air Force: http://www.af.mil

U.S. Marines: http://www.usmc.mil

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{"commentId":1191480,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

Hey the Army's breaking up at the same rate as the economy and the democracy.

At least 2 sources have it that more than 6000, yep, 6000 US veterans commited suicide in 2005 alone.

What do they know that we don't?

Source of source

I'd run too.

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Reply#1 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:46 PM EST
{"commentId":1191894,"authorDomain":"schwab"}
I'd run too.

Yeah, I seriously don't blame them.

Here's a great article about desertion from a 2005 issue of Harper's called AWOL in America: When desertion is the only option. http://harpers.org/archive/2005/03/0080447

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#1.1 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:30 PM EST
{"commentId":1193154,"authorDomain":"Boothby"}

Hey the Army's breaking up at the same rate as the economy and the democracy.

At least 2 sources have it that more than 6000, yep, 6000 US veterans committed suicide in 2005 alone.

That number is from all veterans from all branches of service starting with the 4 gents still with us from WWI all the way to the people discharged to the last day of 2005, about 25 million vets from the Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marines going back nearly 90 years.

The Army had 88 suicides in 2005 or about 1 per 13,000 troops. Vets took their own lives at a rate of 1 per 3,996.

The fact that so many vets take this way out is terrible, and is a good reason to fuss at your states Congressional Delegation that if they're so willing to agree to spend money on a war they should be equally willing to see to veterans needs with equal zeal, after all 1/12th of the US population are Vets. All appropriation's and spending are done through Congress, so they need to get to it.

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#1.2 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:24 AM EST
{"commentId":1194098,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

Thanks for the clarification, I had first thought it was a doubling of the contemporary fatality rate.
Someone did point out however how many of these were people in their twenties.

It's tragic either way. Nothing to be glorified this war business, essentially it's a byproduct of political failure and if the failure aspect could gain more mindshare it wouldn't be so attractive to people who get excited about it from a distance.

They have gross drink/driving films educationally. A 10 minute war movie would certainly cure the bloodlust that motivates those who send others, or vote for same.
If a politician creates a war they are by definition failures.

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#1.3 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:43 PM EST
{"commentId":1194229,"authorDomain":"Boothby"}

If the families of those that lose a loved one to suicide sent invitations to the funeral to the members of their state's congressional delegation that might wake them up as well. I'd never seriously suggest such a thing, the families have enough to deal with without being used to make a point.

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#1.4 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:36 PM EST
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{"commentId":1191610,"authorDomain":"London1943"}

If I might also mention that there is a peculiar tactic being exercised by recruits, which may or may not come as news to some of you. Has anyone watched the documentary called "Iraq for Sale"? I was invited to a free showing of it at Michigan State University (my Alma Mater) last week and it revealed that some recruits are overeating in order to gain too much weight, and get an honorable discharge. The particularly interesting fact about this is that some are doing this not so they can get out of Iraq, oh no. It is to get out of the military so that they can make a six-figure income doing contract work there. After alll, why would anyone want to live in such dangerous and depraved conditions for such little pay, comparatively? I would definitely suggest getting "Iraq for Sale" from Netflix if it is available.

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Reply#2 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:19 PM EST
{"commentId":1192228,"authorDomain":"Mars313"}

Yeah I saw that. I have a friend who just signed a two-year contract with the US Army so he could do his 2 years and join Blackwater and make 5 times the amount of money.

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#2.1 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:19 PM EST
{"commentId":1192322,"authorDomain":"luckydog"}

Assuming they let him out.

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#2.2 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:59 PM EST
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{"commentId":1192964,"authorDomain":"Boothby"}

Interesting article, and I think it has important things to say. The problem I have with it is that uses weasel math. They switch back and forth between numbers per thousand, numbers per hundred and percentages. If they would honestly present us the facts and let us decide for ourselves I would be a lot happier. If I want spun news I suppose I could go to any of the news networks and get that.

So, lets look at the numbers all in the same format.

The Army low was in the '80s and early '90s it said, at between 2 or 3 per 1,000, or 0.2% - 0.3%, desertions started to increase in the late '90s with Kosovo but the article didn't say by how much, taking us to our current peak of 9 per 1,000 or 0.9% actually.

Army peak desertions were during Vietnam, no surprise, at 5% or 50 per 1,000 which means the Army is 41 per 1,000 below the height of Vietnam.

Now I'll admit that all of that sounds less sexy that up 80%, but I expect the "unbiased" press to feed me honest numbers and let me make up my own mind, this was spun hard.

There is another major difference between today's desertions and those in Vietnam, Canada is no longer a refuge. Its a volunteer army so they weren't compelled to serve as they were back then, or that's my take on the decision since the Canadian Supreme Court didn't offer an explanation with that decision.

Allow me a little pride in my own former branch of service, only 16 for the Air Force this year.

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Reply#4 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:15 PM EST
{"commentId":1193397,"authorDomain":"glechliter"}

The most interesting figure is the drop in the overall loss of new soldiers for the four listed reasons, all relating to meeting standards. I'd like to be monitoring the administration of the physical fitness test (PFT) and weigh-in for weight standards. I just had a National Guard soldier tell me that 3 of 47 in his unit passed a recent PFT and 7 of 47 met height-weight standards. He added that the only way to get eliminated was a body bag. I'm wondering if this same attitude has permeated the active force.
From a retired (1999) colonel who believes in standards!

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Reply#5 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:08 AM EST
{"commentId":1194236,"authorDomain":"Boothby"}

My daughter is in the Army Guard, and those from her unit that don't score well on the PFT show up 5 days a week at 6:30 for running and calisthenics. I don't think her unit is in the norm though.

As far as active duty goes, an 18 year old female could run slower than I did as a 42 year old male and get a better score. If a female at 18 can't outrun a man of 42 I question her survival instincts.

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#5.1 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:40 PM EST
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