Huckabee Wanted to Isolate AIDS Patients

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NORTH LITTLE ROCK — Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased federal funding in the search for a cure and said homosexuality could "pose a dangerous public health risk."

As a candidate for a U.S. Senate seat in 1992, Huckabee answered 229 questions submitted to him by The Associated Press. Besides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets, rather than federal health agencies.

Huckabee said Saturday that his comments came at a time when "the AIDS crisis was just that — a crisis. We didn't know exactly all the details of how extensive it was going to be. There was just a real panic in this country. If I were making those same comments today, I might make them a little differently."

In 1992, Huckabee wrote, "If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague."

"It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."

The AP submitted the questionnaire to both candidates in the 1992 senate race; only Huckabee responded. Incumbent Sen. Dale Bumpers won his fourth term; Huckabee was elected lieutenant governor the next year and became governor in 1996.

When asked about AIDS research in 1992, Huckabee complained that AIDS research received an unfair share of federal dollars when compared to cancer, diabetes and heart disease.

"In light of the extraordinary funds already being given for AIDS research, it does not seem that additional federal spending can be justified," Huckabee wrote. "An alternative would be to request that multimillionaire celebrities, such as Elizabeth Taylor (,) Madonna and others who are pushing for more AIDS funding be encouraged to give out of their own personal treasuries increased amounts for AIDS research."

At a news conference in Asheville, N.C., on Saturday, Huckabee said he wanted at the time to follow traditional medical practices used for dealing with tuberculosis and other infectious diseases.

"Medical protocol typically says that if you have a disease for which there is no cure, and you are uncertain about the transmission of it, then the first thing you do is that you quarantine or isolate carriers," Huckabee said.

When Huckabee wrote his answers in 1992, it was common knowledge that AIDS could not be spread by casual contact. In late 1991, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said there were 195,718 AIDS patients in the country and that 126,159 people had died from the syndrome.

The nation had an increased awareness of AIDS at the time because pro basketball star Magic Johnson had recently disclosed he carried the virus responsible for it. Johnson retired but returned to the NBA briefly during the 1995-96 season.

Since becoming a presidential candidate this year, Huckabee has supported increased federal funding for AIDS research through the National Institutes of Health.

"My administration will be the first to have an overarching strategy for dealing with HIV and AIDS here in the United States, with a partnership between the public and private sectors that will provide necessary financing and a realistic path toward our goals," Huckabee said in a statement posted on his campaign Web site last month.

Also in the wide-ranging AP questionnaire in 1992, Huckabee said, "I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."

A Southern Baptist preacher, Huckabee has been a favorite among social conservatives for his vocal opposition to gay marriage. In 2003, Huckabee said that the U.S. Supreme Court was probably right to strike down anti-sodomy laws, but that states still should be able to restrict things such as gay marriage or domestic partner benefits.

"What people do in the privacy of their own lives as adults is their business," Huckabee said. "If they bring it into the public square and ask me as a taxpayer to support it or to endorse it, then it becomes a matter of public discussion and discourse."

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{"commentId":1252508,"authorDomain":"bluecollarbytes"}

Aids-'activists' themselves preached that Aids was a threat to the entire population, back when they tried to push the falsehood that it was a greater risk to the Hetro-sexual majority than themselves. This has since been proven to be a lie, so it's on to the next lie I suppose.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 11:14 AM EST
{"commentId":1252641,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}
Aids-'activists' themselves preached that Aids was a threat to the entire population, back when they tried to push the falsehood that it was a greater risk to the Hetro-sexual majority than themselves.

Your statement seems to assume that all AIDS activists are homosexual.

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  • 19 votes
#1.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:12 PM EST
{"commentId":1252675,"authorDomain":"adamkemp"}

I don't know about "greater risk", but the risk is the same for heterosexuals as for homosexuals. The real risk factor is number of partners and unprotected sex. It doesn't matter whether you're gay or straight. Having sex with lots of people and not using protection increases your risk. Heterosexuals are just as much at risk as gay people.

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  • 12 votes
#1.2 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:31 PM EST
{"commentId":1252729,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Washington, DC is currently in the midst of an explosion of HIV. And the majority of the new cases are transmitted through heterosexual conduct just as it is in Africa. It will be interesting to watch how Huckleberry dances around this one.

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  • 11 votes
#1.3 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:55 PM EST
{"commentId":1252763,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

the thing that upsets people greatly.. is that when this came out many of the extremly religious, took this as a sign that god decided to do something about the growing gay population, despite having never done much to anything he disliked exscept maybe be gomorrah. And they came out publically and said "it is the damnation of god" aids research stalled for many years as it was the "gay" disease.. and then heterosexuals got it and the entire proof that this was god's anti gay disease collapsed and their still a bit sensative about it.. so they say "well the risk isnt tha same'
You see the same thing with faith and bush./. people will argue with yoiu and when you finally prove them wrong they will say something like "clinton did it too" as if, even though they are wrong, they can be a bit less wrong by bringing up some factoid.

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  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 1:13 PM EST
{"commentId":1253161,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

Here's an article about Arkansas' role in the spread of AIDS as tainted blood was tracked and eliminated by the Nations of the world Arkansas prisoners were still selling tainted blood. The hypocrisies matched only by the criminal negligence, former Arkansas Governors Clinton and Huckabee, both with tainted blood on their hands.

"During 1981-2, the number of AIDS cases in the United States reported to the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta grew at an alarming rate. The vast majority of the reported cases were of homosexual men and intravenous drug abusers. During 1982, cases of AIDS transmitted through the use of blood and blood products began to be reported. The U.S. blood and plasma centers regularly collected from two groups of persons who were at high risk of contracting AIDS: homosexual men and prison inmates. Plasma was collected at centers, licensed by the Food and Drug Administration, in prisons in Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, and Mississippi. By way of contrast, because of the high prevalence of hepatitis B in prisons, the Canadian Red Cross Society had stopped collecting donations from prison inmates in 1971."

Suzi Parker, writing in the Arkansas Times, described the scene: "At the Cummins Unit of the Arkansas penal system during the 1980s, while President Clinton was still governor, inmates would regularly cross the prison hospital's threshold to give blood, lured by the prospect of receiving $7 a pint. The ritual was creepy to behold: Platoons of prisoners lying supine on rows of cots, waiting for the needle-wielding prisoner orderly to puncture a vein and watch the clear bags fill with blood. Administrators than sold the blood to brokers, who in turned shipped it to other sates and to Japan, Italy, Spain and Canada. Despite repeated warnings from the Food and Drug Administration, Arkansas kept its prison plasma program running until 1994 when it became the very last state to cease selling its prisoners' plasma.

\ Dying for profits the hallmark of America's elected leaders and media darling candidates.

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  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:25 PM EST
{"commentId":1253981,"authorDomain":"heyvince"}

The number of HIV/AIDS cases in the straight community is higher than in the GLBTQ community. The difference is that in the GLBTQ there is a higher concentration, and so perceptually it appears that more GLBTQ people are infected with the virus/disease. This fact conflicts to a lot of mainstream rightist discourse on the virus/disease.

Many people look at gayness/homosexuality as a stage of human development that is destined to extinction. This is where the cries of AIDS as a gay disease and the actions that are rationalized around it emanate from. I can not speak as eloquently on this subject as others; here is what E. K. Sedgwick has to say:

The lineaments of openly genocidal malice behind this fantasy appear only occasionally in the respectable media, though they can be glimpsed even there behind the poker-face mask of our national experiment in laissez-faire medicine. A better, if still deodorized, whiff of that malice comes from the famous pronouncement of Pat Robertson: "AIDS is God's way of weeding his garden."

It is important to connect the dots between pronouncements such as Huckabee's and Robertson's. Especially if there statements can be so easily aligned to what is imagined as a "gay genocide".

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  • 1 vote
#1.6 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 10:33 PM EST
{"commentId":1254186,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
Many people look at gayness/homosexuality as a stage of human development that is destined to extinction.

Others look at some number of gender alterations as an effect of toxic exposure and hormone disrupting chemicals in the food and environment in addition to the natural variations of some God given characteristics.

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  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Sun Dec 9, 2007 12:25 AM EST
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{"commentId":1252697,"authorDomain":"schwab"}

Wow, i'm quite surprised at the number of smear articles being directed at Huckabee lately. I didn't even know he was a threat worth bashing on.

Also, the best way to smear the guy isn't this; it's saying he doesn't believe in evolution over and over and over again.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:42 PM EST
{"commentId":1252765,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

he started to climb the poles.
problem i think is guiliani the guy who was supposed to run against hilary, now has toooo much bagage to overcome.

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  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 1:14 PM EST
{"commentId":1252986,"authorDomain":"adaykin"}

Historically if you look at the facts AIDS has been a lot more prevalent in the gay community but I wouldn't go as far to say that gays are a public health issue.

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    #2.2 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:08 PM EST
    {"commentId":1253000,"authorDomain":"simon-says"}
    Historically if you look at the facts AIDS has been a lot more prevalent in the gay community but I wouldn't go as far to say that gays are a public health issue.

    Yeah, I guess Africa is full of gay people..

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    • 11 votes
    #2.3 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:14 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1252799,"authorDomain":"pavilhao9"}

    In regards to isolating AIDS patients, Fidel Castro, "friend" of the oppressed and "champion" of socialized medicine used this approach at the onset of the AIDS crisis in the 80's. He set up these wonderful concentration, excuse me, medical camps and removed them from society. Yet Huckabee gets negative press and the left whines how the world should use Cuba as the model for medicine.

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      Reply#3 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 1:27 PM EST
      {"commentId":1252968,"authorDomain":"whatanoddguy"}

      Do you really think that the American left uncritically supports Fidel Castro's policies? If so, what evidence lead you to believe that?

      A person can have major disagreements with someone but acknowledge their success in one area. I think only a small number of people in the US take Cuba as a model for our society. Its more like even a poor, authoritarian country like Cuba provides better health care than the US.

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      • 8 votes
      #3.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 2:58 PM EST
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      {"commentId":1252842,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

      Does anyone honestly think this is going to hurt him in the Republican primary? Because I certainly don't.

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      • 6 votes
      Reply#4 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 1:54 PM EST
      {"commentId":1252902,"authorDomain":"rybu"}

      While his opinions back then were certainly wrong, it's an important quality for a president to admit that he was wrong and change his mind based on new information (or public opinion).

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      • 2 votes
      Reply#5 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 2:30 PM EST
      {"commentId":1253005,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}
      it's an important quality for a president to admit that he was wrong and change his mind based on new information

      Here here!

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      • 2 votes
      #5.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:15 PM EST
      {"commentId":1253131,"authorDomain":"gleuch"}

      where and what does he admit to? as far as it is concerend, he appears to have changed his stance on the issue, not admit to anything.

      {"commentId":1253131,"threadId":"186585","contentId":"1150184","authorDomain":"gleuch"}
      • 2 votes
      #5.2 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:09 PM EST
      {"commentId":1253994,"authorDomain":"heyvince"}
      it's an important quality for a president to admit that he was wrong and change his mind based on new information

      Even if you are right that he was just changing his mind based on new information (political convenience is probably a better explanation); this doesn't justify removing whole parts of the population, and quarantining them. To believe that there is some evidence that exists that would justify that is absurd/ignorant at best, but probably closer to openly genocidal.

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      • 2 votes
      #5.3 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 10:38 PM EST
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      {"commentId":1252909,"authorDomain":"simon-says"}

      Say Hello to the new Hitler!

      Way to go America!

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      • 3 votes
      Reply#6 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 2:33 PM EST
      {"commentId":1262044,"authorDomain":"TBK"}

      Sorry, George already holds that title.

      Way to go America 4 years ago!

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      • 2 votes
      #6.1 - Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:20 AM EST
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      {"commentId":1252917,"authorDomain":"evanevans5"}

      I agree, I don't think it will effect him at all either. Unfortunately, there still is a social stigma when it comes to HIV/Aids. YOu'd think that with all the new cases every year, it wouldn't be so, but...

      80,000 new cases every year. 80,000 NEW CASES EVERY YEAR! That is insane.

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      • 2 votes
      Reply#7 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 2:40 PM EST
      {"commentId":1252973,"authorDomain":"jwh125"}

      Thank you Mr. Huckabee for saying something reasonable people have been thinking and saying only to their closest friends and families.Those infected with aids should be isolated and their names made public so that innocent people can avoid sexual contact with them; be they gay, straight or mixed.

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      • 3 votes
      Reply#8 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:00 PM EST
      {"commentId":1253071,"authorDomain":"rel3vant"}

      Why stop with AIDS? Let's make a public database of every health issue so that ignorant and fearful employers can more easily discriminate, so that health companies can more easily refuse coverage, and so that our friends and family can know when to avoid us.

      Um, what's your last name again John?

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      • 11 votes
      #8.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:40 PM EST
      {"commentId":1253337,"authorDomain":"dustin44444"}

      So John, what is it about personal responsibility that bothers you so much?

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      • 4 votes
      #8.2 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:45 PM EST
      {"commentId":1254023,"authorDomain":"heyvince"}

      John-213660,

      I am without words.

      Maybe you are right, we should quarantine all AIDS victims, and we can mark them with pink triangles like Hitler marked gay concentration camp inmates. We should probably round up all of those with Hepatitis and mark them too. What about the people that have depression, they could go crazy a kill someone. Just to be safe we should probably not stop at HIV/AIDS victims, we should round up all the gay people (you know since AIDS tests take 6 months, and there is no way to tell if they are sodomizing each other in the six month window of uncertainty). The reason that nobody talks about this in public is because any REASONABLE person knows that it is morally reprehensible, fascist, and as I said in a comment above: openly genocidal. Shame on you.

      badkungfu:
      I think that his last name may be Mengele, or maybe Eichmann.

      Vince

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      • 2 votes
      #8.3 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 10:58 PM EST
      {"commentId":1254253,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

      John has a disturbing notion of what a "normal" person is and what they think.

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      • 2 votes
      #8.4 - Sun Dec 9, 2007 1:17 AM EST
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      {"commentId":1252982,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}

      Governor Huckabee:

      I see you have The Thomas Road Baptist Church line on AIDS right behind you if not reaming you right now. Jerry Farwell may have read his Bible everyday, but that was after making sure the money was made and his political contacts cemented in stone.

      Buddy, you ask GWB who he listens to in the music community on Africa and deadly AIDs issue there that have not a damn thing to do with homosexuality. AIDs is a mutated viruse--not an instrument sent from God to kill homosexuals. You Baptists, in the main, are really ignorant and arrogant on this subject.

      Dr. and former US Senator Bill Frist, the Repblican with the compassion and medical message about Africa in the Republican Party must not be anywhere near your team. On homosexuality, the Bible has many stories embedded or outright about lesbianism and lesbian sex there in. Now, Sodom was about anal sex male or female. The real message is if you tongue the human anus or place the male sex organ in the anus of any of God's creations, you begin a path of no return. Men that do oral on another man without anus act of any kind, not my thing at all but, not a death sentence.

      Agree with you I do on Madonna and other rock stars joining the already established structure Bono has in place and his trusted poltical contacts. Bob Geldolf also on this issue.

      Entertainers, some of you made a bonanza while getting by with the least you could do artistically. This means join with Bono and/or Geldolf and be value added with money, endorsements and time----and if you "show out," you will receive the ever lasting credit that every man, woman and child really desires---God's ever lasting love and affection.

      Thanks Governor Huckabee, Fred "Tennessee Stud" Thompson can take this hand off right up the gut for about fifteen yards in Iowa fast.

      ...and Fred Thompson has the real Republican Record on Abortion issues vetted and endorsed by National Right to Life, as Fred understands the political and legal of this thorny issue, while Governor Huckabee tells you the hate in his heart and the ignorance in his mind. Fred Thompson also understands that Abortion is morally wrong, yet we on Earth are not here to act as God's judges on Acts God makes the ultimate decisions upon in the end.

      Republicans it's....

      IN GOD WE TRUST!

      ...in this country, not Jesus, and not preachers, priests and Bishops in the Oval Office

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#9 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:06 PM EST
      {"commentId":1253022,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}

      Well, Paul Weyrich, I told you in your little hate and wooooooooooofully ignorance box, GOP?USA forum that I was going to start up a real street fight in the Right to Life Community over your lie that Fred Thompson bought the NRL endorement. Boy, you man enough yet to apoligize to NRL first and Fred "Tennessee Stud" Thompson second? Where is your evidence, boy, to support your smear of both NRL and Fred? It's been three f-ing weeks, boy! Republican National Committee and all the real party faithful:

      GOP when taken out of context as in GOP/USA is both a copyright infridgement and stain on our party. If the RNC Committee does not take action first, I'm bring suit in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Tennessee, US 6th Circuit, Solomon Federal Buidling, Chattanooga, TN as a contributor to the Republican National Committee and therefore as stakeholder in the Republican Party which should be enough to satisfy the nexus necessary for me personally to sue GOP/USA for stealing the Name and Highjacking the traditions of the...

      THE GRAND OLD PARTY!

      FOR THOSE TOO STUPID AT THE RNC (and I've spoken with a few of you on the phone when I had better things to do in Iraq, for one example) TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS CAN LEAD, YOU FOLKS IN THE WITNESS BOX FOR LINKS TO GOP/USA AND WHY GOP/USA USES THE RNC BRAND WITHOUT APPEARANT LISCENCE.

      Try me on legal folks, and if I don't have it right, I can get the best down here probono just for the fun of being in this Pig Sticking!~

      Weyrich, boy, I run your Bishop Romney out of the race just like I said I would do. Now, I'm running you and all like you---the ignorant and arrogant that think you can wag the tail of the Republican Elepant out of the party for good.

      Come on in here, Pauli Boy, cuz I'd love to get personal and deep pentration on this and more with you, girl.

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        Reply#10 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:25 PM EST
        {"commentId":1253326,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}

        Republicans and Democrats: No Federalist Society stuffed shirts in the Thompson Camp!

        http://www.gwhatchet.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticlePrinterFriendly&uStory_id=e3d705e1-06e9-43a3-bb03-88881f59b59c

        GW law professors endorse Thompson

        Three GW law professors have endorsed Republican candidate Fred Thompson's campaign for the presidency, joining the Lawyers for Fred coalition.

        Professors John Fitzgerald Duffy, Orin Kerr and Michael Abramowicz are members of the Law Professors Committee within the coalition

        ------------------------------------------

        "In campaigns you try to find different coalitions of like-minded people, whether it's by ethnic group or by a profession or gender," Ng said. "Whatever it is, you form these groups that will work to convince others in their group to support a candidate, such is the example with Lawyers for Fred. They understand that he is the best person for the job and that's why they support him." Duffy, a GW law professor, said that the Lawyers for Fred coalition allows lawyers, politicians and professors to support Fred Thompson, although there are no requirements for volunteering or working for the campaign in light of joining the committee.

        "It's a matter of what (members of the coalition) can do," Ng said. "In this group, there are people helping to develop policy, helping to develop contributors, and some people who only have time to write a check … as a minimum they've agreed to have their name listed as an endorser, and that in itself is huge."

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          #10.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:39 PM EST
          {"commentId":1262060,"authorDomain":"TBK"}

          Fred's a little to on the lazy side for my taste. He started late, he's reportedly late to just about everything his staffers schedule excluding the debates.

          He's worst then John Wayne with the slow southern draw and he seems many times unsure of himself and sleepy.

          Now, I can understand the lack of energy, the man's wife is a whole lot younger then he, but hey...swallow some vitamins with that Viagra. He's not on the set in Hollywood, do some work...you know...the campaign trail...show up on time at scheduled rallies...and he's an actor...he should at least act like he knows what he's talking about.

          Overall...I don't think this guy stands a snowball chance in hell of winning the Republican nomination let alone the Presidency of these United States.

          Anyway good luck with your man, I hope he finds his compass.

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          • 1 vote
          #10.2 - Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:44 AM EST
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          {"commentId":1253039,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
          Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public

          Seperate and apart from any issue of morality here, one of the greatest contributors to the spread of AIDS in the early years was the Red Cross and the Pharmacuitical industry. Hemophiliacs were knowingly exposed to pooled blood products and kids like Ryan White and others were infected. Nearly a whole generation of kids who had transfusions were killed because Cutter and the Red Cross continued to take the profitable and reckless policy of pooling tainted blood.

          There's not any part of this epidemic that Government policies of protecting corporate interests did not make far worse yet the corporate role isn't mentioned, nor the tens of thousands who died because public health takes a back seat to drug revenues. If we need to quarantine anyone it is the small minded, who make their way into public policy positions based on how much freedom is granted to their corporate benefactors.

          The biggest shame here is that this is far worse from bigotry, prejudice and lack of consequences for corporate killing. Maybe this generation doesn't remember the time when the community of hemophiliacs begged the Red Cross to screen the blood and stop making the choice of life and death for transfusion become between immediate death and slow death; but it is a chapter I will never forget having lost family members who knew of tainted blood and knew the Red Cross did nothing.

          It was not until 1989 that individual hospitals began their own programs to let parents donate and create a known donor program that the things began to change and as always, public policy lagged years behind and profits without penalties for deadly effects rolled right along. Americans think of the Red Cross as a benevolent charity but they aren't now any more than then, tainted blood continues, but courts don't do more than tiny fines

          Mon., Oct. 1, 2007

          TORONTO - A judge acquitted three doctors, a New Jersey company and a former Red Cross official of criminal charges Monday in a tainted-blood scandal that infected thousands of Canadians with HIV or hepatitis and resulted in more than 3,000 deaths....
          The Canadian Red Cross pleaded guilty in 2005 to distributing blood tainted with HIV and hepatitis C and was fined 5,000 Canadian dollars, which is now about $5,000.

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          • 5 votes
          Reply#11 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:29 PM EST
          {"commentId":1253040,"authorDomain":"wood-s"}

          The die-hard 28-percenters will be pleased, but the rest of us may notice the cracks starting to appear in Huckabee's "nice guy" image. Everyone in Arkasas is puzzled as to why it took us so long.

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          • 3 votes
          Reply#12 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:29 PM EST
          {"commentId":1253051,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}
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          Calvin Tang, pard, you have a good thing going here. I have some ideas to make it better.

          1) You comment boxes lettering and formating is too small and hard to handle for professional bloggers with experience in better forums like the NYT for quick and easy message transmission.

          2) Get with NYT Digital on that. Artie and the family could use the money about now from my read of the NYSE and institutional investors walking away faster than Britanny children to their daddy.

          3) Email me for more if you'd like.

          Agin, Calvin, I like what you have here and "Jack/Frylock," (the reason I came up here, and he claims to be some damn longhaired Harvard Professor) over at the NYTimes Forums Refugees group can tell you who da man was in the Mareen Dowd Sandbox.

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            Reply#13 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:33 PM EST
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            Frylock, pard, still waiting for your real assessment about this breakout piece I wrote in the Tennessean about the power situation in the Middle East.

            http://jfxgillis.newsvine.com/_news/2007/11/01/1065212-a-nuclear-iran-is-a-danger-we-cant-afford-to-ignore

            A nuclear Iran is a danger we can't afford to ignore

            Jack, most just call me Colonel, but you can call me....

            Colonel David W. (NIE) Moon

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              Reply#14 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:39 PM EST
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              Friends, my pal "Frylock" is Henry Kissinger. Now, I give out my advise for free, and he does not!

              Time for your competency test to test your further ability to depense advise for cash.

              My friend, Chancellor Merkel, let's see what faux bismarck has for us now!

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                Reply#15 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:42 PM EST
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                Bob Barker: Come on down, it's time to play......

                The Price is Right!

                Contestant Henri, there is a Westinghouse Nuclear Reactor ready to go at TVA Bellefont if Congress gets it together on Nuclear Power.......and they are!

                1) Direct benefits to the US Economy Technology and Manufacturing

                2) Direct benefits to Commercial and Residential Construction and the working men and women Union Building Trades or not!

                3) Direct benefit to 401 Ks of retirees by opening up again this heavy water sector of the US Economy!

                Better hurry Herni, as time and my patience is short with you this day!

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                  Reply#16 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:48 PM EST
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                  Henry, pal, you a smart man, so I give you this advise right now on a Power Politics, Realpolitque, basis........

                  IF I EVEN SMELL YOUR SLIMEY CARCASS IN WORLD OR US POLITICS AGAIN ITS THE REAL GO TIME WITH MY FRIEND AL HAIG IN HERE WITH ME DISHING DIRT AND MAKING YOU EAT IT LIVE!

                  THAT'S A PROMISE....

                  Colonel David W. (Iran NIE) Moon

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                    Reply#17 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 3:52 PM EST
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                    Al, what I really liked about Caveat when I first read it years ago was your mantra in foreign affairs is the..............

                    RULE OF LAW BETWEEN NATIONS

                    Please allow me to add the value I learned later.......

                    IF NATIONS OF THIS WORLD ARE FOLLOWING THE RULE OF LAW ON THE INTERNATIONAL STREET, THERE IS NO REASON FOR THE UNITED STATES OR ANYONE ELSE TO GET INTO THEIR DOMESTIC BIDNESS IF.....

                    1) Countries follow and enforce trade agreements to the letter in their countries from the UN on down.

                    2) Human Rights are respected in a Order of Liberty manner consistant with the ways and mores of The Home Land.

                    3) Three, if there is no Sudan like stuff going down, and the people aren't crying out due to oppression it's look, advise if you must, and don't touch inside another county's domestic bidness.

                    It's a start General, I'd like to hear more from you sir, as you been out front like when you were the.....

                    FIRST US DIPLOMATIC CONTACT TO CHINA, NOT HENRI!

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                      Reply#18 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:00 PM EST
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                      Weyrich, boy, you best come in here and give up you lying story on NRL and Fred before I send some legal and press to you to......

                      STOMP A POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL MUDHOLE IN YOUR ASS AND KICK IT DRY!

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                        Reply#19 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:02 PM EST
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                        any questions, folks, The Chancellors Corner

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                          Reply#20 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:03 PM EST
                          {"commentId":1253135,"authorDomain":"adamkemp"}

                          Hey, how about not posting a million times in a row? If you're responding to people above, then hit the reply button on that thread. If you're not, then just post once and include everything you want to say in that one post. Otherwise you keep showing up in peoples' conversation trackers for no reason.

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                          #20.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:11 PM EST
                          {"commentId":1253192,"authorDomain":"fechancellor"}

                          Boy, u want some real ring time with me, my office, and you know where it is.

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                            #20.2 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:38 PM EST
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                              #20.3 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:13 PM EST
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                              any huckabee or weyrich weasels at RNC want some....come on in....I got contacts in almost anyone's financial house....even Warren Buffet's and he knows it!

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                                #20.4 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:17 PM EST
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                                Lt. Colonel Oliver North (USMC)

                                Pal, I had it wrong about you. Now, you did get into some diplomatic that was way above your pay grade, evah, but you did the right thing in the Senate, and that is where my read was wrong.

                                Friends, Lt. Colonel North saved Ronald Reagan, for President Reagan was led down the wrong path by the Henry Kissinger School of Republican Diplomacy.....back chanel diplomacy.

                                If it happens in the dark and not with a gal of this grade who will keep her mouth shut it's better to do your bidness on the bartop at The Palm in front of God, Country and the International Street.

                                http://galleries.danni.com/100190/photos/brea_lynn/pics/brea_lynn1.jpg

                                The point on Colonel North is he protected The OFFICE of The Presidency in Uniform at Capitol Hill from what could have been the real end in this country. Also, we had the Soviets on the serious run and a Reagan Impeachment would have derailed all the money, time and efforts across the board.

                                Lt. Colonel Oliver North (USMC)

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-Chief%27s_Guard

                                Commander-in-Chief's Guard, Washington's Life Guard

                                Today that utimate task is THE SACRED DUTY AND TRUST of ....

                                THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS

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                                  Reply#21 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:33 PM EST
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                                  GWB, thanks for dropping that EC-130 Compass Call on top my location yesterday.

                                  I took that message direct where it needed to go, and Vic, you can pass it around from there.

                                  http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=190

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                                    Reply#22 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 4:37 PM EST
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                                    Sheriff Andy Tayor over there in Iran, pin this one on Barney in the Cave and you clear to make some positive moves for the Iranian People.

                                    http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15692&Itemid=1

                                    Iranian Rockets Found, Turned Over to Coalition Forces

                                    http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15679&Itemid=128

                                    By Maj. Joe Sowers, 3rd HBCT, 3rd Inf. Div. PAO

                                    1-15 Inf. Regt. finds cache with Iranian RPG

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                                      Reply#23 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:09 PM EST
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                                      If any of you don't think I know some folks in Hineville, GA and have done bidness in Hinesville....

                                      well.......what can I say!

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                                        Reply#24 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:10 PM EST
                                        {"commentId":1253346,"authorDomain":"greathoj"}
                                        what can I say!

                                        Apparently a whole lot...

                                        What the hell have you been rambling about? Are each of these comments replies to other comments, or are you just making random posts that make little to no sense at all?

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                                        #24.1 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 5:48 PM EST
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                                        A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral--Alexander Hamilton: Federalist No. 11

                                        Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism--George Washington

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                                          #24.2 - Sat Dec 8, 2007 6:19 PM EST
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                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Roberts_Jr.

                                          Mr. Chief Justice John Glover Roberts, Jr.

                                          Glad you called with your football picks and your advise on the Outback Bowl. Now, I gots the inside at the Big Orange and WR Kennedy, faulty hands on Genva and all other International Law Constructs, and flagged for attempted usurpation of the US Constriction, Assistant Coach Ginsberg caught aiding an illegal abortion for a player's girl friend and Asian Athletic Director Scalia, well, he got caught shooting over a baited field while duck hunting.

                                          These players may be back next year on the taxi squad washing jocks and serving dinner at Gibbs Hall only. The can serve out their scholarship if they like but its all scut work from here on out.

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