Tolkien Estate Sues New Line Cinema

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LOS ANGELES — The estate of "Lord of the Rings" creator J.R.R. Tolkien is suing the film studio that released the trilogy based on his books, claiming the company hasn't paid it a penny from the estimated $6 billion the films have grossed worldwide.

The suit, filed Monday, claims New Line was required to pay 7.5 percent of gross receipts to Tolkien's estate and other plaintiffs, who contend they only received an upfront payment of $62,500 for the three movies before production began.

The writer's estate, a British charity dubbed The Tolkien Trust, and original "Lord of the Rings" publisher HarperCollins filed the lawsuit against New Line Cinema in Los Angeles Superior Court. If successful, it could block the long-awaited prequel to the films.

Robert Pini, a spokesman for Time Warner Inc.'s New Line, declined to comment.

The films — 2001's "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring," 2002's "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers," and 2003's "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" — have reaped nearly $6 billion combined worldwide, according to the complaint.

The estimate includes everything from box office receipts to revenue from sales of DVDs and other products.

The plaintiffs seek more than $150 million in compensatory damages, unspecified punitive damages and a court order giving the Tolkien estate the right to terminate any rights New Line may have to make films based on other works by the author, including "The Hobbit."

Such an order would scuttle plans by New Line to make a two-film prequel based on "The Hobbit." "Rings" trilogy director Peter Jackson has already signed on to serve as executive producer on the project, which is tentatively slated to begin production next year, with releases planned for 2010 and 2011.

"The Tolkien trustees do not file lawsuits lightly, and have tried unsuccessfully to resolve their claims out of court," Steven Maier, an attorney for the Tolkien estate based in Britain, said in a statement. "New Line has not paid the plaintiffs even one penny of its contractual share of gross receipts despite the billions of dollars of gross revenue generated by these wildly successful motion pictures."

Maier also claims the film studio has blocked the Tolkien estate and the other plaintiffs from auditing the receipts of the last two films.

The lawsuit claims J.R.R. Tolkien established a trust through which he signed a film deal in 1969 with United Artists. After Tolkien's death, his heirs created the charity in the author's name.

Meanwhile, the original agreement terms were picked up by Hollywood producer Saul Zaentz, who produced an animated film in 1978 based on the "Rings" books, and eventually licensed the rights to make live-action films to New Line.

Lawyers for the plaintiffs said they have spent the years since the movies hit theaters trying to negotiate a settlement with New Line.

Other disputes over the film's earnings have surfaced in recent years.

In 2004, Zaentz sued New Line, claiming the studio cheated him out of $20 million in royalties from the film trilogy, which he optioned to New Line for a percentage of the movies' profits.

He and the film studio reached an out-of-court settlement a year later.

Jackson's production company also tangled with New Line in 2005 over profits from the films. A lawsuit was settled last year.

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{"commentId":1459273,"authorDomain":"nefariousone73"}

I am starting to wonder if we will ever see "The Hobbit" in production.

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Reply#1 - Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:38 PM EST
{"commentId":1462338,"authorDomain":"ratigan"}

They can always send it to another production company.

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    #1.1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:44 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1459301,"authorDomain":"finalcut"}

    wow - if this lawsuit has merit - then there really is no ends to the limit of greed. The studio has made an incredible amount of money on the movies - to balk at paying 7.5% seems trivial even when it does amount to the sizable sum of 150 million.

    it will be interesting to see how this is resolved.

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    Reply#2 - Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:45 PM EST
    {"commentId":1462100,"authorDomain":"wbrianwhite"}

    7.5% of gross receipts is way different than 7.5% of profits. Movie companies use the shadiest accounting practices in the world. Almost no movie makes a profit according to them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting

    In accountancy, Hollywood accounting is the practice of distributing the profit earned by a large project to corporate entities which, though distinct from the one responsible for the project itself, are typically owned by the same people. This has the net result of reducing the project's reported profit by a substantial margin, sometimes even eliminating it altogether. This may be for income tax reasons, but more often it is to reduce the amount which the corporation must pay in royalties or other profit-sharing agreements.
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    #2.1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:41 PM EST
    {"commentId":1462127,"authorDomain":"finalcut"}

    Thanks for the clarification Brian.

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      #2.2 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:49 PM EST
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      {"commentId":1459437,"authorDomain":"lafftur"}

      I'm with you, rbeier, I am wondering about The Hobbit, too. The Tolkien estate has always been pretty tetchy, but if they let Ralph Bakshi at it, they ought to give Jackson a go. The money does seem trivial from the studio side...you are right, finalcut, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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      Reply#3 - Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:19 PM EST
      {"commentId":1462105,"authorDomain":"wbrianwhite"}

      Jackson already sued New Line over cheating him out of money on the Ring films a couple of years ago, and refuses to ever deal with them again, meaning he won't do the Hobbit.

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      #3.1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:43 PM EST
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      {"commentId":1460767,"authorDomain":"kikaiju"}

      Welcome to Hollywood! This is fairly normal practice for movies and TV.

      No movie ever makes money. Or nearly never. Not even big box office hits like these. Thanks to creative accounting and tax dodges, anything resembling profit is erased by amazing losses and production expenses and other write-offs. Anything from actual costs involved in making and marketing the film to losses actually endured by other unrelated box office flops can be used to erase profits. Can and are.

      So what you do is get your movie star or company like Tolkien to agree to take a cut of the profits. They feel like they've won the lotto. But after the fact, after making billions, you cook the books so there are no profits and thus nothing to pay to your star who took a cut. In fact, the star might owe YOU money.

      What may be happening here is that New Line is still busy trying to bury and hide the profits with losses so as to downplay what they have to pay out. The more time passes, the more time there is for creative accounting.

      Making movies is technically a very skilled industry, but the back office part is just full of rampant fraud and cheating and pretty much just as skilled as what happens in front of the cameras. And Hollywood has plenty of pals in Washington who make sure nothing is ever done about it.

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      Reply#4 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:15 AM EST
      {"commentId":1461196,"authorDomain":"finalcut"}

      While I am sure there is fraud and abuse in every industry I would prefer to see a little bit of proof to back up the claim that every movie ends up being a profitless enterprise (by the books) - I'm thinking it would take more than JRR Tolkien level creativity to hide 6 billion dollars; especially considering the filming and production supposedly cost "only" $270 million

      So that leaves about 5.7 billion dollars to hide. That's billion, with a 'b'. This is a pretty slanderous claim so I'd love to see some kind of evidence that anything on that scale has ever happened.

      Thanks

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      #4.1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:13 AM EST
      {"commentId":1462107,"authorDomain":"wbrianwhite"}

      Note that the estate was supposed to take part of gross receipts here, they are presumably wise to Hollywood accounting.

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      #4.2 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:43 PM EST
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      {"commentId":1461653,"authorDomain":"khadgar"}

      Actually this isn't the first time it happened on this film. Peter Jackson has already sued to get himself paid. The Tolkien Estate is only suing to get what they deserve to get paid for.

      Essentially what happened is that the three films hit the jackpot. New Line didn't forsee it being as big as it was. They thought the three films would be blockbusters, but not on the immense scale they were. As a result the films have made tremendous amounts of money, and the people who allowed this film to be made such as the director and Tolkien's Estate want their cut.

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      Reply#5 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:44 AM EST
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