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Clinton Optimistic About March 4 Tests

Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:39 PM EST
politics, barack-obama, clinton, hillary-rodham-clinton, democrat-hillary-rodham-clinton
Beth Fouhy, Associated Press
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<p>Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., makes a campaign stop at WJLA-TV studios on the set of Politico in Rosslyn, Va., Monday, Feb. 11, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)</p>

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., makes a campaign stop at WJLA-TV studios on the set of Politico in Rosslyn, Va., Monday, Feb. 11, 2008. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

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MCALLEN — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton voiced optimism Wednesday about succeeding in the upcoming, make-or-break states of Ohio and Texas three weeks from now — a critical period for her campaign to regroup and mount a comeback.

"You go on," she said, one day after suffering lopsided losses to rival Barack Obama in Maryland, Virginia and Maryland. "Some weeks one of us is up and the other is down, and then we reverse it. ... It's a long and winding road."

Speaking to reporters after a rally with hundreds of supporters in a convention center here, she acknowledged Obama's victories, something she did not mention at a huge rally in El Paso Tuesday night.

"I want to congratulate Senator Obama on his recent victories and tell him to meet me in Texas," she said. "We're ready."

Following his Tuesday victories, Obama now has a 26 delegate lead over Clinton — 1,224 to 1,198, according to the latest tally by The Associated Press.

During the rally and in her news conference, Clinton stepped up her criticism of Obama's health care plan, casting herself as the only candidate in the presidential contest who would provide universal health care.

Clinton would require every person to obtain health insurance and would provide government assistance to those who can't afford it. Obama would not mandate the purchase of health insurance, but would provide government subsidies to encourage more Americans to buy it. Clinton has said that would still leave up to 15 million people without insurance.

Clinton has been stressing economic issues and took on Obama directly, noting her rival planned to deliver a speech Wednesday on the economy.

"I don't know how you have an economic plan ... if you don't have a universal health care plan," she said. "I don't know how you have an economic plan if you don't take on the problem in the housing market and have an aggressive plan to end the foreclosures. He has not."

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  • Public Discussion (34)
SteveHouse

Wow, Hillary's campaign has been weak since Iowa? I disagree... Whether I'd vote for her or not, Mass Media should probably stop giving Clinton the shaft.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:07 PM EST
twiztidlojik

She's had a loss in Iowa, win in NH, a win in Nevada, a crushing loss in SC, and a stalemate on Super Tuesday. Her husband has been the subject of a massive gaffe. Barack won states she thought were her "firewall", and remained competitive in her home state of New York. She's fired her campaign organizer, her deputy organizer has left, and she's put five times her opponent's personal net worth* into her campaign.

Does this sound like a strong campaign that will "inevitably" win the nomination?

*books pay well but not nearly as well as cattle futures

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:48 PM EST
SteveHouse

Actually, this article has changed since I commented on it. Weird eh? No it isn't strong, but it certainly hasn't struggled ever since Iowa, like the article said (and ended with when I left the comment).

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:45 AM EST
Ben Josephs

Actually, this article has changed since I commented on it.

Not weird, the AP usually updates their stories.

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:43 PM EST
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TBK

oh-oh, looks like the wheels are coming off the wagon.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:32 PM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Yes, I can see a couple of them rolling towards me, TBK...how observant of you..ha ha.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:52 PM EST
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Bill Harrison

She's blown a headcover gasket or two and is definitely leaking oil. Given her trouncing tonight she's going to have to win big in some of the remaining states given the proportional way Dems ante up their delegates. I'd say that's highly unlikely. I mean I expected her to lose my Commonwealth of Virginia but by a margin of 63% to 36%? No way The Clintons do not go quietly though and the final death throes will be ugly.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:59 PM EST
Ms CYPRAH

She's blown a headcover gasket or two and is definitely leaking oil.

Marvellously put, in your understated way, Bill. Do I see Times Square, Broadway, a fantastic meal and a crisp new $2 bill beckoning madly at me?

I can already feel an air of excitement creeping in, but I won't be a Hillary by counting my chickens just yet. I will simply smile sweetly and elegantly with anticipation of the 'leak' sparking an explosion of defeat. This has certainly been fun!

:o)

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:58 PM EST
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replytoj001

Anything that further creates chaos and develops the movement of Hillary Clinton into the sunset of American history, I am for it.

I really believe that what you sow is what you shall reap.....Hillary, Bill, and their inner circle are reaping the destruction they forced on the American people over their presidential and following years.

I hope she is defeated and she goes away.

replytoj001

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:12 PM EST
TBK

Amen, replyto001

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:45 PM EST
Bill Harrison

What will be interested to watch should Hillary lose the nomination is if it will result in tarnishing the Clinton "brand" in the Democratic Party. I think that brand already lost some luster in the thinly-veiled race-playing that went on in SC and may have backfired completely in driving almost the entire black vote into the Obama column when previously Hillary had enjoyed good support there.

  • 3 votes
#4.2 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:51 PM EST
TBK

Bill, my good man I think you're right and it's as if she did not learn her lesson in SC she turns around and fires her CPM Patti Doyle a Latino women who helped her to win the Latino vote in California. Daaaah........

That, I believe will be the death of her campaign, not taking anything from Barack, he's run a splendid campaign from beginning to end. I know the fat lady is not singing but she sure is warming up.

My worry is the super delegate crap that could cause a super ripe in the party??

  • 3 votes
#4.3 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:36 PM EST
Ms CYPRAH

I know the fat lady is not singing but she sure is warming up.

Mmmm...I love that, TBK...very apt! And I will be watching her serenading Obama all the way to the White House! :o)

  • 3 votes
#4.4 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:58 PM EST
TBK

Thank you for the compliment...My Lady. :0)

I haven't had many of those this political season.

  • 2 votes
#4.5 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:28 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

You're so welcome, TBK...and I adore Gentlemen too! :o)

  • 2 votes
#4.6 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:25 AM EST
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TheFunkyBunch

My biggest, biggest, BIGGEST complaint is if by the time this thing is over and he leads in delegates, votes and states won and they decide that super delegates mean jack squat.

If by the end of the voting process, he leads in delegates, votes and states won, he won. Period. The people showed who they want. Super delegates should have nothing to do with it if nobody "crosses the finish line"

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:17 PM EST
replytoj001

Her next big move.....and it is being worked on now......is the re-enstating of the Florida and Michigan voters; which will give her more delegates.

Soooooooooo let's throw the rules out again?????

But I do not see Obama's team allowing or getting steam rolled on this one.

Right now she is in complete reactionary, defensive, re-check your plan mode. Obama has shifted the story and momentum to his campaign, where now Hillary is becoming the losing side of the story......a place she does not want to be. (hehehehehehehehehe........)

replytoj001

  • 1 vote
#5.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:01 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

Right now she is in complete reactionary, defensive, re-check your plan mode. Obama has shifted the story and momentum to his campaign, where now Hillary is becoming the losing side of the story......a place she does not want to be. (hehehehehehehehehe........)

Yes, replytoj001, what a difference a few months make! :o)

  • 1 vote
#5.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:27 AM EST
TheFunkyBunch

Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan and didn't campaign in Florida. If they try to get a compensation of Michigan and Florida, the Obama campaign will lobby extremely hard for a complete do-over instead of a magic automatic give-and-go to Clinton.

  • 2 votes
#5.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:42 PM EST
replytoj001

Lots of questions need to be answered.

Would the states of Florida and Michigan allow a do-over?

Does their respective electoral laws allow for a o-over

Who would pay the cost of the election? The states, the Democratic party?

I think the legal challenges will also be costly for the party and the candidates.

It should make for interesting theater.

replytoj001

  • 1 vote
#5.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:22 AM EST
Ms CYPRAH

The main reason why Florida and Michigan should stay as they are is that many people might not have bothered to vote on the day because they thought it would not be counted.

Clinton is on to a loser here because the only fair way out all round is a re-polling and the way Barack is going just now, he would probably win those too which would make her look even worse.

  • 2 votes
#5.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:40 AM EST
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ApostleZeruel

I think the proper thing for Clinton to do at this point is withdraw. She needs to start taking party unity into consideration; a divided party is one of the only plausible ways we could see another Republican administration. This petty internecine mudslinging is getting nobody anywhere, and Obama's wide margins of victory during this weeks primaries show which way the large public leans. (Obama has won 23 primaries this month, to Clinton's 8). If this race comes down to superdelagates and Clinton gets the nomination against the popular vote, it would be deeply shake people's faith in the party, and disgust many into voting for McCain out of spite. This is larger than anyone's ego, and a point may come where Clinton's continued candidacy will drag the entire party down with it.

  • 6 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:35 PM EST
TheFunkyBunch

Thank you for saying what I wanted to say, but had no idea how. Perfect summarization of what I was thinking.

  • 2 votes
#6.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:45 AM EST
replytoj001

Not gonna happen......

She sees this as her time, and nothing will change that in her mind or in her actions.

She will take nothing less than the prize.

Clinton is in trouble, this is uncharted territory for her.

Her losses are not just small losses, she is being routed and beaten. This cannot go well for her and/or her supporters, especially those that kick in the $$$$$.

If the donors see or even feel, they are beginning to back a loser/losing candidate, the money will dry up and go to Obama.

replytoj001

  • 1 vote
#6.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:07 AM EST
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TheFunkyBunch

By the way, is it just me or is Hillary playing the Rudy Giuliani game?

"Okay, I'm gonna lose here, here, here, here, here, here and here.. so let's just pray I win in Texas"

  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:35 PM EST
kikaiju

It worked so well for Rudy, why not?

Oh wait...

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:15 AM EST
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Deron Dantzler

So, the Clinton campaign writes off the possibility that Obama will gain momentum as a result of his string of wins in February, yet expects Texas and Ohio to catapult her to a win the states thereafter? It's not going to happen. Obama is the inevitable nominee at this point. Latest counts show that Clinton would have to win 55% of the delegates available in all remaining states in order to overcome Obama's lead in pledged delegates. The super delegate crowd will not divide the party by choosing a candidate that the voting public did not choose when they are on the floor of the DNC. To think they will is beyond logical reasoning.

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:58 AM EST
TheFunkyBunch

Up until Barack Obama came into the picture, I can't remember logical reasoning being a staplehead in politics in my lifetime ;)

Maybe that's because I've only lived through a Bush and a Clinton.

  • 3 votes
#8.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:44 PM EST
Deron Dantzler

Valid argument. If we depended on logical reasoning, Al Gore would have been president in 2000.

    #8.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:06 PM EST
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    njb

    I watched part of her stump speech last night on CNN---um excuse me?

    I am from Texas, my mother is from Texas, as was her mother before her and I have never ever heard that "saying" Less hat and more cattle? What?

    Stop patronizing me please.

    A more suitable saying that we do use is "you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear".....cough cough....

    • 2 votes
    Reply#9 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:13 PM EST
    TheFunkyBunch

    Don't you know? Hillary is trying to become a local Texan now. Isn't it cute how she flails and loses her cool when things pile up on her?

    • 3 votes
    #9.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:22 PM EST
    Ms CYPRAH

    A more suitable saying that we do use is "you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear".....cough cough....

    Ha, ha, njb...that is sooo funny!

    • 2 votes
    #9.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:03 PM EST
    Ms CYPRAH

    Isn't it cute how she flails and loses her cool when things pile up on her?

    Which is not a good trait for a leader, TFB, especially the highest in the land! :o(

    • 2 votes
    #9.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:06 PM EST
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    njb

    Getting vast support in Texas is going to be tricky for any candidate--we are a diverse state, really could be 5 states--plus the delegates are awarded by the population of the district, so winning Houston, Austin and Dallas counts for more than winning all of south Texas.

    I am not fool enough to even think I can speak for all of Texas--but I will venture out there and say many of us are really tired of being patronized by as my mother still called them 'Yankees'...(remind me to tell you sometime about a funny story, my mother bitching about 'Yankee' women and how they never cook for their husbands, they just make sandwiches....)

    HRC better win the women over in Texas, because I can't for the life of me remember a man that can stand her. Plus the Latino voting block is not a solid one--lots of diversity.

    I do expect the state to go red in a general election--barring a miracle. But hey--they do happen.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#10 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:42 PM EST
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