Obama's Girls Not Fans of Britney, Paris

Surely this will stay civil.

I got $5 on it, says it doesn't lol

What is there to bash about his daughters? I'd say Beyonce/Hana Montana over Brittney/Paris shows good judgment for two little girls. Look at the smile on his youngest daughter. Anyone who can bash her just isn't human.

What is there to bash about his daughters? I'd say Beyonce/Hana Montana over Brittney/Paris shows good judgment for two little girls. Look at the smile on his youngest daughter. Anyone who can bash her just isn't human.

You seem to be thinking that there would be a rational attack against them. :|

A constant in American politics: the feuds will often be nasty and make little to no sense to anyone with a rational, critical thinking mind.

you have a point there. If either party thought their chances of winning would improve by attacking the children of their opponent, they would do it. I can say this for McCain or Obama directly but for the parties as a whole. There is nothing more important to the parties than winning. The concept of integrity is completely lost.

Why... there's nothing to bash on here and if there was, why do you think that Republicans would stoop so low as to trash a child? That's pretty ill informed.

Ill informed? hardly. Unlikely, perhaps. I was joking though, it was more of a comment about the venom in this race already. I notice you aren't sticking up for Camp Clinton though, do you think they'll do it? Or is it only above Republicans to trash kids?

I'm not a part of the Clinton Camp, but if I had to conjecture... I dunno. They obviously have nothing here to pull from, but given their track record they might make something up. They've become an un-funny Onion of sorts lately.

Or is it only above Republicans to trash kids?

Well no, it is above most human feeling people to trash kids, irrespective of partisanship. I was just saying that I don't feel that republicans would try and pull any of that with a story like this. I see them staying quiet becuase they back it - or - openly agreeing (as far as Viners go).

This seed has very very little to do with politics outside of the parents simply being. It's more about the girls and what they believe, but I also feel that the seed is a plant. Sort of gives people this image that he is a family man, can take it easy with his kids and does normal 'dad' things. And, I'm not saying he doesn't or that this is some kind of ruse... but really... its normal dad stuff... not news, unless it does have a political agenda and then who really drug the kids into it?.

Well no, it is above most human feeling people to trash kids, irrespective of partisanship. I was just saying that I don't feel that republicans would try and pull any of that with a story like this. I see them staying quiet becuase they back it - or - openly agreeing (as far as Viners go).

I fully agree with you. I was just trying to bust your chops man.

I know.

I think this was the attack Mars predicted, lol.
This is so not political, but I've still gotta respond because my little cousin loves Hanna Montana.

A little Google goes a long way. Miley Cyrus was tussling with her friends at a slumber party and the pictures of it were put on the internet as some sort of lesbian underage soft core porn report. Not to raise support against her, but to garner attention for those who put up the pictures. She has handled it very well by pointing out that adolescent play is not something to be taken in the way it has. And if there was a real story that she was a lesbian, which she isn't, that's no reason to jump on her either.

And Obama clearly stated the stage thing was a joke he used to poke fun at his wife's star crush on Stevie.

Duh I know. Read a little sarcasm once in your life.

...but so close though...

My mistake. I'm just so used to people like backroads and archangel finding any way they can to comment on Barack in a nasty way. My apologies. I'm usually very good at sarcasm...

the do better than NYT and Reuters...

I can only offer a suggestion as to what makes her yuck because I haven't asked him myself.

I think she's yuck because of the example she sets for women and girls.
Britney's examples:
1) Call yourself a virgin and use that to support your role as a role model to young girls even though you make blatantly sexual music videos playing on some of the country's most beloved sex fantasies.
2) Get mad when outed by your ex as not being a virgin, while not apologizing for the lie.
3) Steal someone else's fiance (with whom she has two kids)
4) Get mad at your parents and the people you've paid to help you when they try to help you.

If all her previous problems were because of the mental illness, going back almost ten years, then I suppose the issue needs to be readdressed. If not, she's yuck.

Nope, I'm all for social values or lack thereof. I'm just against laws and country-wide rules that govern someone else's choice because of your values or lack thereof.

My values are why Britney is "yuck." Other's values may lead to a different conclusion. The difference between myself and the brand of far-right I hate to see in office is that I would never consider passing legislation just to keep Britney from being herself.
Kinda like what some want to do for abortion, gay rights, etc. Don't get me wrong. The Britney issue is a speck compared to the importance of the other two. But the idea behind it is that people draw conclusions based on their morals, values, and beliefs. It's just not fair to push your conclusions onto someone else.

So Britney Spears is yucky because she suffers from mental illness?

...What the hell? I honestly have no idea where you pulled that one from.

She's "yucky" because she's a terrible singer with no talent.

If the mental illness is to blame for the lying about being a virgin and stealing someone else's fiance, you can scratch those off the list. But I don't think that'll cover Jared's (and my) opinion that she's a terrible singer.
Leander, do you think she's not "yuck"?

Alright, duly noted.

Do you think she's "yuck"?

I think we're having two separate conversations. I haven't said anything about what I think of you.

Being mentally ill has no bearing on what a terrible singer she is. Am I not allowed to say she's a terrible singer because she's mentally ill?

The list I gave as to why she's yuck got considerably shorter once you suggested some of it might be explained by her mental illness. But I still reserve the right to call someone a bad singer and a bad role model, irregardless of her mental illness. She was a bad role model her entire career. The problem she and her family are facing now doesn't change that.

Please explain to me what it is exactly that I said that troubles you so much.

Britney suffers from serious mental illness.

How do you know? Are you a psychologist? Have you analyzed her yourself?

Yeah, I read those same reports.

My questions is, AGAIN, Am I not allowed to call her yuck based on her history because she is now mentally ill?

And what exactly did I say that troubles you so much?

If I am as truly ignorant in my attitude towards the mentally ill, it would help me if you explain what the problem is instead of just shaking your head off to the side. How am I going to improve (and I'm clearly saying that is my intent) if I don't know what behavior or mindset to correct?