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US Military Kills al-Qaida Leader

Sun Mar 2, 2008 6:47 AM EST
world-news, iraq, saudi-arabia, saudi-arabian
Patrick Quinn, Associated Press
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<p>Iraqi and American soldiers patrol in the neighborhood of Dora, Baghdad, Iraq, Sunday, March 2, 2008. Dora residents started returning to their homes recently as security improved. (AP Photo/Loay Hameed)     </p>

Iraqi and American soldiers patrol in the neighborhood of Dora, Baghdad, Iraq, Sunday, March 2, 2008. Dora residents started returning to their homes recently as security improved. (AP Photo/Loay Hameed)

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BAGHDAD — A U.S. military helicopter fired a guided missile to kill a wanted al-Qaida in Iraq leader from Saudi Arabia who was responsible for the bombing deaths of five American soldiers, a spokesman said Sunday.

U.S. Navy Rear Adm. Gregory Smith said Jar Allah, also known as Abu Yasir al-Saudi, and another Saudi known only as Hamdan, were both killed Wednesday in Mosul.

According to the military, al-Saudi conducted numerous attacks against Iraqi and U.S. forces, including a Jan. 28 bomb attack that killed the five U.S. soldiers.

In that attack, insurgents blasted a U.S. patrol with a roadside bomb and showered survivors with gunfire from a mosque. The soldiers died in the explosion, the deadliest on American forces since six soldiers perished Jan. 9 in a booby-trapped house north of Baghdad.

Intelligence gathered in the Mosul area led the U.S. military to al-Saudi, who was in a car with Hamdan. A precision helicopter strike killed both and destroyed their vehicle. U.S. forces then confirmed the men's identities.

Smith said their deaths brought to 142 the number of al-Qaida insurgents killed or captured in Mosul since the end of January.

Al-Saudi was the man who headed up the al-Qaida network in southeast Mosul, an insurgent hotbed where U.S. forces wage daily battles against the group.

"Mosul is the center of al-Qaida's terrorist activities today. Mosul is a critical crossroads for al-Qaida in Iraq. Baghdad has always been al-Qaida's operational center of gravity, but Mosul remains their strategic center of gravity as it provides access to the flow of foreign fighters," Smith said.

Mosul is located at the locus of roads that connect Iraq with Syria to the west, Turkey to the north and Iran to the east. Many fighters smuggled in from Syria make their way through Mosul, where they can easily blend in with city's ethnically and religiously diverse population.

"It is their strategic center of gravity. One-half to two-thirds of attacks in Iraq today are in and around Mosul," Smith said.

A successful program to recruit and fund Sunni tribesmen has also slashed al-Qaida's influence in Baghdad and western Anbar province, pushing the group into Diyala province and up toward Mosul — fighting as they retreat north.

In one incident Sunday, 13 gunmen were killed and eight were injured in clashes with American and Iraqi forces in the town of Tal Afar — on the road from Syria to Mosul. Tal Afar Mayor Maj. Gen. Najim Abdullah said that two police officers were also killed and four were injured.

In two other separate attacks in Diyala, police reported that five people were killed when a roadside bomb hit a bus, while another assault killed a patrolling police officer.

It remains unclear if al-Qaida was responsible for Friday's kidnapping of Chaldean Catholic Archbishop Paulos Faraj Rahho and the killing of three people who were with him.

Smith said that Iraqi and U.S. forces were searching for those who abducted the cleric as he left Mass in the northern city of Mosul. The European Union also appealed for his release and condemned the kidnapping in an announcement.

Smith said there was no way to predict when Mosul would be rid of al-Qaida, adding that "there is no timetable per se to turn over security in any particular area of Iraq, including Baghdad" to Iraqi forces.

According to the military, al-Saudi planned and conducted numerous attacks against Iraqi and U.S. forces, including a reported attempt with a 5,000-lb vehicle bomb that would have killed hundreds of people if it had exploded.

Al-Saudi was a close associate of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri and arrived in Mosul with a group of foreign fighters last August after spending time fighting in Afghanistan.

"After fighting and training in Afghanistan, he was brought to Iraq by Abu Ayyub al-Masri in November 2007, one of four Saudi Arabians appointed to supervise al-Qaida activities in Mosul. He was quickly moved up to run all of the terror network's operations in southeast Mosul, becoming the most visible and active al-Qaida operative in the area," Smith said.

In another incident, the military expressed regret over the killing of a teenager Friday by a helicopter gunship that thought it was firing on suspected roadside bombers planting a device, the military said.

It added that residents later told troops that a group of boys had been digging up roots for firewood.

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Associated Press Writer Bradley Brooks contributed to this report.

(This version CORRECTS SUBS 6th graf to correct that 142 killed or captured since end of January sted beginning of year.)

© 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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phree

This story is probably made up. Meant to distract us from the Israeli Terrorism the last few days?

Where's the AP stories on the 80 + women and children that have been massacred in Gaza?

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 11:12 AM EST
Awake

The delusion you people suffer saddens me.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 11:44 AM EST
arcanebliss

On the same AP news site this report is on? ....

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 12:32 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

The AP story is here, or at least one of the 20 that showed up

Israeli Strikes Kill 54 in Gaza

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 2:11 PM EST
phree

Well they have done it before. They have even reported the same guy killed twice...two years apart!

Feel free to trust mainstream media, I would advise that you don't though. Especially when there are owned by the same companies that make missiles and fighter jets. Think about it.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 3:55 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

AP like any other media source make a fair number of error's in reporting especially when you get into details of body counts. However I would not go as far as saying the whole story is a hoax, there are far to many ways to cross confirm stories and events today that were not available until recently. However to each his own opinion. I would guess Rob B. could get a valid update with no problem on this one.

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 4:08 PM EST
atonhunter

I wonder how many times they killed this guy now...

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Tue Mar 4, 2008 9:50 PM EST
Tedd Riggs

Maybe the AP is into recycling ? :-)

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Tue Mar 4, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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Lind

I see no reason to believe this story is made up

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 11:31 AM EST
phree

Diversion and propaganda would be the reasons. (Not that it is evidence that it is made up)

    #2.1 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 3:57 PM EST
    Lind

    Sadly the story builds only on one source – but the source seems solid and I can't see why the source should lie. I can't see what a AP reporter should get out of making diversion and propaganda. It is so easy to crosscheck with other medias and use some sound judgment.
    If you can give me/us some trustworthy sources that indicate the story is made up and used to distract us – then please enlighten me

    • 1 vote
    #2.2 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 4:41 PM EST
    phree

    I can't see what a AP reporter should get out of making diversion and propaganda

    The reporter is just doing his job. It is the Source, that gains. Like it or not Propaganda is a very important part of war.

    Guys I never said this is definitely a made up story. But, it could be. These are the EXACT types of stories they would use. I have seen it MANY times before.

      #2.3 - Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:43 AM EST
      Lind

      The source is a U.S. Navy Rear Adm. telling a that he got one of his enemies – well it can be seen as Propaganda depends what view your are looking from. If you are Iraqi insurgent it would be propaganda. For most others it is informative. But I can't see why a U.S. Navy Rear Adm. should make a diversion on behalf of the Israeli Army's Gaza operations.
      So instead of write "This story is probably made up" give us proof that substantiate your claim with solid evidence!

      • 1 vote
      #2.4 - Mon Mar 3, 2008 2:50 PM EST
      phree

      If you are Iraqi insurgent it would be propaganda. For most others it is informative.

      Only IF it is true. If it is a lie it is propaganda for both sides.

      But I can't see why a U.S. Navy Rear Adm. should make a diversion on behalf of the Israeli Army's Gaza operations

      And that is why I brought it up. Many people "can't see" why a U.S Navy Admiral would say "Hey we're winning the war...see...we got a bad guy. So let's keep fighting!" A diversion to cover up your buddies terror acts is not to far fetched either, especially when the U.S was just caught trying to incite a civil war between Fatah and Hamas.

      I chose to use the words "PROBABLY is made up", because I have no evidence to prove that it is. All I am trying to do is incite others to think more critically about such stories, because I know these are the TYPES of stories they use.

      After they lied to us so many times, why should I believe anything they say?

      They told us they killed the same guy TWICE! Two years apart! Think about it for a second.

        #2.5 - Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:50 PM EST
        Lind

        Well my point is as long you can prove anything please leave your "PROBABLY is made up" comment out.
        I can't see you use critical thinking. Critical thinking is a form of judgment, specifically purposeful and reflective judgment. Using critical thinking one makes a decision or solves the problem of judging what to believe or what to do, but does so in a reflective way. Critical thinking gives due consideration to the evidence, the context of judgment, the relevant criteria for making that judgment well, the applicable methods or techniques for forming that judgment, and the applicable theoretical and constructs for understanding the nature of the problem and the question at hand (source: Wikipedia).

        • 1 vote
        #2.6 - Tue Mar 4, 2008 5:55 PM EST
        phree

        Well my point is as long you can prove anything please leave your "PROBABLY is made up" comment out.

        No thanks. I will state my opinion if I wish to do so.

        All I am trying to do is incite others to think more critically about such stories

        YOU even looked up "critical thinking" in Wikipedia! Am I good OR WHAT??? :)

        • 1 vote
        #2.7 - Tue Mar 4, 2008 9:42 PM EST
        Lind

        No i just show i can use sources :)

          #2.8 - Wed Mar 5, 2008 9:46 AM EST
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          Steven F. Durst

          I am a Viet Nam veteran, and always a supporter of our military men and women, I see so very many parralles between this war and mine. Different yes but the same on the soldier, on the ground or in the air.
          Sooner or later it was inevitable for this war to be a news media's body count. I learned to hate the news people while in Viet Nam. They had no feelings for the soldier nor the complications their being there created. The story was all that mattered to any of them. They, then like I would imagine now, seeded their stories to influence thoes who would read it.
          This war against ????? Who? If it is a war against terror, then a strong and unified Nation would not be terrorized by such little fleas. But who are the terrorists? They seem to be the extreem elements of the Nation of Islam. So are we then embroiled in a holy war? If so how do we seperate the "good" muslims from the "bad"? Once seperated, are they then targetted for extinction? Once identified are they ok to kill?
          What a mess.
          How would ancient Rome have delt with such people? They would have just killed everyone. But we aren't Rome and the times are very different. Indeed we have become the feet of clay and iron seen in Nebuchaneezar's dream.

            Reply#3 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:08 PM EST
            Aaron Still

            Who makes our missiles again? i keep forgetting to buy stock in weapons companies. that's pure profit right there.

              Reply#4 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 2:31 PM EST
              Tedd Riggs

              Some guy in China I think.

              • 1 vote
              #4.1 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 3:09 PM EST
              Aaron Still

              great. now we get blown up AND we get lead poisoning.

              • 2 votes
              #4.2 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 3:28 PM EST
              Tedd Riggs

              Mattel Toy Rockets Painted China Red.....

              wait....you forgot the poison dog food...and kids candy..and bad medicine..and magnets that fall out of toys....

              • 3 votes
              #4.3 - Sun Mar 2, 2008 3:45 PM EST
              Alistair Brown

              By far the biggest players in missiles are MBDA (Pan-European), and Raytheon (US).

              • 1 vote
              #4.4 - Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:23 AM EST
              Tedd Riggs

              Doesn't Northrop Grumman still make a number of guided missiles also ?

              • 2 votes
              #4.5 - Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:38 AM EST
              Alistair Brown

              They do, along with Boeing, although of the next gen combat aircraft, the F-22 appears to be exclusively Raytheon, the Eurofighter Typhoon is currently Raytheon, with an upgrade to MBDA in the future. Considering those two planes (ignoring the F-35 for now) will be the biggest production units for the western powers, I'd imagine it'll give the companies producing their missiles a very significant market share.

              In all honesty, I ca'n't believe that I even have an interest in the arms industry, no matter how small.

              • 1 vote
              #4.6 - Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:27 AM EST
              Tedd Riggs

              Me either, however at the right the US seems to be going thru them, maybe a good stock choice....

              • 2 votes
              #4.7 - Mon Mar 3, 2008 10:49 AM EST
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