Oil Chiefs Say High Prices Not Our Fault

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WASHINGTON — Don't blame us, oil industry chiefs told a skeptical Congress. Top executives of the country's five biggest oil companies said Tuesday they know record fuel prices are hurting people, but they argued it's not their fault and their huge profits are in line with other industries.

Appearing before a House committee, the executives were pressed to explain why they should continue to get billions of dollars in tax breaks when they made $123 billion last year and motorists are paying record gasoline prices at the pump.

"On April Fool's Day, the biggest joke of all is being played on American families by Big Oil," Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass., said, aiming his remarks at the five executives sitting shoulder-to-shoulder in a congressional hearing room.

"Our earnings, although high in absolute terms, need to be viewed in the context of the scale and cyclical, long-term nature of our industry as well as the huge investment requirements," said J.S. Simon, senior vice president of Exxon Mobil Corp., which made a record $40 billion last year.

"We depend on high earnings during the up cycle to sustain ... investment over the long term, including the down cycles," he continued.

The up cycle has been going on too long, suggested Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo. "The anger level is rising significantly."

Alluding to the fact that Congress often doesn't rate very high in opinion polls, Cleaver told the executives: "Your approval rating is lower than ours, and that means you're down low."

Several lawmakers noted the rising price of gasoline at the pump, now averaging $3.29 a gallon amid talk of $4 a gallon this summer.

"I heard what you are hearing. Americans are very worried about the rising price of energy," said John Hofmeister, president of Shell Oil Co., echoing remarks by the other four executives including representatives of BP America Inc., Chevron Corp. and ConocoPhillips.

While Democrats hammered the executives for their profits and demanded they do more to develop alternative energy sources such as wind, solar and biofuels, Republican lawmakers called for opening more areas for drilling to boost domestic production of oil and gas.

What would bring lower prices? asked Rep. James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, the committee's ranking Republican

"We need access to all kinds of energy supply," replied Robert Malone, chairman of BP America, adding that 85 percent of the country's coastal waters are off limits to drilling.

But Markey wanted to know why the companies aren't investing more in energy projects other than oil and gas — or giving up some tax breaks so the money could be directed to promote renewable fuels and conservation and take pressure off oil and gas supplies.

"Why is Exxon Mobil resisting the renewable revolution," asked Markey, noting that the other four companies together have invested $3.5 billion in solar, wind and biodiesel projects.

Exxon is spending $100 million on research into climate change at Stanford University, replied Simon, but current alternative energy technologies "just do not have an appreciable impact" in addressing "the challenge we're trying to meet."

The appearance Tuesday before the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming was not the first time that oil executives had faced the harsh words of a lawmakers frustrated over their inability to do anything about soaring oil and gasoline costs.

In November 2005, executives of the same companies sought to explain high energy costs at a Senate hearing at which Hofmeister emphasized the cyclical nature of his industry. "What goes up almost always comes down," he told the senators on a day when oil cost $60 a barrel.

About six months later, the executives were grilled again on Capitol Hill when a barrel of oil cost $75. As the three-hour House hearing came to a close Tuesday, the price of oil settled at just over $100 a barrel on the New York exchange.

"We face a new reality, volatility, high prices, greater competition for resources," said Peter Robertson, vice president of Chevron Corp., adding that he understands that "Americans see the pain" of $100-a-barrel oil.

Markey challenged the executives to pledge to invest 10 percent of their profits to develop renewable energy and give up $18 billion in tax breaks over 10 years so money could be funneled to support other energy and conservation.

They responded that their companies already are spending on alternative energy projects and argued that new taxes would dampen investment and could lead to even higher prices.

"Imposing punitive taxes on American energy companies, which already pay record taxes, will discourage the sustained investment needed to continue safeguarding U.S. energy security," said Simon. He said over the past five years Exxon Mobil's U.S. tax bill exceeded its U.S. earnings by $19 billion.

Markey was not impressed.

"These companies are defending billions of federal subsidies ... while reaping over a hundred billion dollars in profits in just the last year alone," he said. The companies are reaping "a windfall of revenue" while poor people have to choose between heating and eating because of high energy prices.

Elsewhere on Tuesday, many independent truckers parked their rigs and others slowed to a crawl on highways to protest high fuel prices. The demonstrations were only scattered, but long lines of trucks were moving at about 20 mph on the New Jersey Turnpike, and three drivers were ticketed for impeding traffic on Interstate 55 outside Chicago, driving three abreast at low speeds.

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{"commentId":1643188,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

I wonder if the oil execs put this on there yearly planners now.

I just wonder the our are going to ask this time that they didn't ask in previous hearings that they hold this time every year for who knows how long now. It is a do nothing Congress putting on a show so they can go back to their voters and say "yep, I really put the screws to those oil execs" - meantime gas prices keep going up.

The threat of nationwide $4-a-gallon gasoline, perhaps this summer, and $100-a-barrel oil is producing strong political reverberations, even as lawmakers acknowledged there is little that Congress can do to bring prices down.

This is malarkey. There is plenty that the government can do to bring down gas prices. The most immediate things would be release oil from the strategic reserve and enact a one year moratorium on taxes. Next they could start figuring out where they can streamline the red tape and get rid of boutique blends. On a longer term scale they can start drilling in ANWR and off the coast of Florida. Start building refineries.

All the while doing this lets start the move to get off of oil and fossil fuels. Lets build more nuclear power plants. Start using the consumer power of government to switch to alternative sources of energy which will in turn bring those costs down and allow John Q. Public to do the same. I keep watching programs on Discovery channel which talk about how we can meet our energy need with natural resource technology we have today. Great - find out what is the hold up and get rid of them.

Let me make a prediction though. The Congress is going hold there hearings and the price of gas is going to go up.

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Reply#1 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:15 AM EDT
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together earned about $123 billion last year because of soaring oil and gasoline prices.

oh my god

The oil industry has argued on Capitol Hill and at the White House that the tax breaks are needed to assure continued investment in exploration, production and refinery expansions.President Bush has promised to veto any such bill, saying that the oil companies should not be singled out.

the govt. should not be funding the research of continued oil refinery and production.

why shouldn't the oil companies be singled out? who does he want to share the blame?

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    Reply#2 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:18 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1643219,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

    together earned about $123 billion last year because of soaring oil and gasoline prices.

    oh my god

    The question you should be asking is that profit or revenue. More importantly you should asking what the profit margin is.

    The oil industry has argued on Capitol Hill and at the White House that the tax breaks are needed to assure continued investment in exploration, production and refinery expansions. President Bush has promised to veto any such bill, saying that the oil companies should not be singled out.

    why not?

    Because gas prices are already high. If you would like to see them go higher - increase the taxes.

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    #2.1 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:25 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1643288,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}

    Actually, taxing oil company profits might not have a substantial increase on gas prices, particularly if the rate increased faster than the profit increase. Whether we want the government micromanaging what the oil companies make is another kettle of fish entirely, but there is a tax regime that would not automatically be passed on to the consumer.

    I'm beginning to think that we need to do what pretty much every other oil producing nation has done and nationalize our oil resources. At least then the petroleum that is extracted would help fund the deficit, and not Exxon.

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      #2.2 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:50 AM EDT
      {"commentId":1647113,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

      AA, as un-American as it sounds, this is absolutly what you should do.

      The US has much better cards in a negotiation between USA and Saudi-Arabia than between Exxon and Aramco.

      Oil is not a private business story anymore, except for the US. Throughout the world, its a story of national diplomacy these days.

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        #2.3 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":1644500,"authorDomain":"keggerlord-1"}

        I think the only thing that will come out of this is Markey getting a sound bite. Otherwise, when you consider that there is only about a 9% profit on gas, what's being charged doesn't sound so unreasonable. The call for oil companies to invest 10% of their profits into renewables should have been countered with: "Sure, right after you senators and representatives take a 10% pay cut and put that money into renewables."

        Unfortunately, as the oil execs point out, anything to reduce the profit margin will ultimately go towards disinvestment in exploration and R&D, thereby further exacerbating the problem in the future. Right now, we're in serious trouble because of our oil dependance, but taking a drastic course for a solution will likely yield a worse problem in the long-term.

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        Reply#4 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":1647143,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

        I wish it was just election year grandstanding but they've been holding one of these investigations yearly now. Right at this time of year while prices are going up preparing for the Memorial day weekend.

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        #4.2 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 10:19 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":1647136,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}
        "On April Fool's Day, the biggest joke of all is being played on American families by Big Oil," Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass., said, aiming his remarks at the five executives sitting shoulder-to-shoulder in a congressional hearing room.

        The Congressman has it wrong. The biggest joke is the idea that Congress is actually doing anything about this.

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        Reply#5 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 10:17 AM EDT
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