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A petition to “Save Windows XP” has drawn more than 111,000 supporters — and continued shots across the Microsoft XP vs. Vista bow, a battle that began with Vista’s release last year.
The operating system succeeded XP, which came on the market in October 2001. Despite Vista’s much-improved security measures, it has met with criticism and some reluctance by consumers and businesses that don’t want to make the switch. (Msnbc.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal.)
Among the concerns about Vista are the amount of computer memory and space it requires, its seemingly slower speed and frustration over the fact that third-party drivers for some printers and other devices are still not available from the companies that make those devices.
InfoWorld, a publication that covers the information technology industry, launched a “Save Windows XP” petition drive in January. Microsoft originally planned to stop selling XP to retailers and computer manufacturers at the end of 2007, but extended that deadline to this June 30.
The company will continue to provide mainstream tech support for XP users until April 2009, and will provide “extended” tech support for patches and security updates through April 2014.
XP also will be available for sale until Jan. 31, 2009, by “system builders,” small businesses that custom-build “white box,” or generic, PCs.
Galen Gruman, executive editor of InfoWorld, said the petition drive was partly the result of his talks over the past year with companies’ chief technology officers and IT managers. Most were unenthusiastic about moving from XP to Vista, and found “no compelling reason” to do so, he said.
“We kept hearing, ‘We don’t really want to do it; we don’t really see the benefit; we don’t really want to spend the money on new hardware to run the stuff and train our staff on a new interface.’”
‘Deep anxiety’ about Vista
In a recent article about the “Save XP” drive, Gruman wrote that “in Vista’s first year, InfoWorld detected a deep anxiety over Vista among technologists and consumers alike. … We have not criticized Microsoft’s XP support plans. We have criticized Microsoft for ending the availability of XP on new machines past the June 30 end-of-sales date. ... It does you no good to have XP support if you can’t get XP on a new system.”
Microsoft representatives have “declined to meet with us at this point,” Gruman said in an interview.
Kevin Kutz, senior director for the company’s Windows product management group, said in a statement that Microsoft is aware of the petition drive.
The company, he said, continues “to be guided by feedback we hear from partners and customers about what makes sense based on their needs. That’s what informed our decision to extend the availability of XP initially, and what will continue to guide us.”
In May 2007, XP had 82.25 percent of the OS market — and Vista, which was still a newcomer, had 3.75 percent, said Net Applications, which measures the market share of operating systems. As of last month, XP had 73.59 percent of the operating system market, and Vista had 14.02 percent.
“Windows Vista has been dogged by the traditional early adopter barriers ... yet the product is ramping toward a normal adoption curve,” IDC Research said in a recent report, subtitled “Windows Vista Momentum Picks Up Steam.”
“The death of Windows Vista has been greatly exaggerated,” the IDC report said. The operating system has “compelling features for consumers and for business users. These features will see acceptance — and potentially love — over the longer term.”
Vista accounted for 36 percent of consumer sales and 18 percent of business sales of Microsoft operating system products in 2007, IDC said. Consumer sales were 2 percent higher than the firm projected before Vista’s release, and business sales, 4 percent less than projected.
Getting flamed for pro-Vista views
J. Peter Bruzzese, who writes a blog for InfoWorld, took an opposing stance to that of editor Gruman, and found himself getting flamed aplenty for his pro-Vista views.
“Some were cursing so badly, I had to remove the comments,” said Bruzzese, a tech consultant and author of several books, including “Tricks of the Microsoft Windows Vista Masters.”
“We all know when we have a bad operating system. When Windows Millennium edition came out (in 2000), I got it, and within a week, I’d uninstalled it,” he said. “It was awful. It was the worst OS I’d ever worked on.”
If Vista “gets a long enough life cycle, it will not be remembered like Millennium Edition,” he said.
“Vista will live long enough for people to start seeing the stability, seeing the drivers, seeing their applications work, and so they’re going to forget some of the anger as time goes on, the way they do with all of the operating systems.”
That life cycle is looking somewhat shorter than XP’s. Microsoft Corp. chairman Bill Gates said recently that the new version of Windows’ operating software, code-named Windows 7, will be released “sometime in the next year or so.”
In the meantime, the company is facing a class-action lawsuit in federal court over the way it advertised computers sold with XP as being capable of running Vista.
The suit says that the labeling of some PCs as “Windows Vista Capable” was misleading because many of the computers were not powerful enough to run all of Vista’s features.
Seeing promising signs
Gruman, of InfoWorld, says he’ll continue the petition drive “until XP is off the market. At that point, you gotta ask yourself, does it matter anymore?”
He said Microsoft has “done a couple of things lately that makes us think they might actually change their minds, or stretch the date.”
Among them, the company said earlier this month it will keep selling a version of XP for use on new, low-cost computers, such as Intel’s Classmate PC, through at least June 2010. Such computers are designed mainly for word processing, e-mail and Web surfing.
“While originally intended for students and other first-time PC customers in emerging markets, we’re now seeing interest in these affordable devices in developed countries as well,” Michael Dix, Microsoft’s general manager of Windows Client Product Management, said in an interview on the company’s Web site.
“So here’s two cases where basically the hardware won’t support Vista, and Microsoft blinked on those two,” said Gruman.
“If you follow that logic, if it’s good enough for poor people, why couldn’t middle-class people get it? It’s sort of nuts.
“They have made those two compromises. So, we’ve got some hope that, given our signatures, given the comments you see elsewhere on the Web, given what we hear privately from retailers that customers don’t like Vista, that maybe Microsoft will get the message” and extend the deadline for XP’s retail deadline, Gruman said.
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{"commentId":1729484,"authorDomain":"rocknrollpalace"}
I read in the artice that Steve Balmer is boasting that people purchasing a computer these days are buying Vista......that's because of several reasons:
1) It's hard to find a NEW system that still has Windows XP on it. You don't have many options at retail stores, so you usually are stuck buying a computer with Vista in it.
2) most new users don't have a clue how much trouble Vista will be when they get it home.
I bought THREE computers for home use , all with Vista and reverted back to XP when my software would not work with Vista....all three run XP and all is well!!!
I also upgraded a computer to exact Microsoft specs, used their Vista Capable sight to make sure this used computer can accommodate the upgrade...more memory and new graphics card was added, along with a huge hard drive. After 20 hours of dealing with Windows Vista sup[port, they said the audio drivers would not be Vista capable, after the download said the computer is fit to run the new Vista.....once again I reverted back to XP.
Needless to say, I HATE VISTA!!! Stick with XP until a service pack three comes out or the next Windows system comes on the market in 2010. Vista was like ME, a useless upgrade. If Microsoft dumps XP to soon, I will sell all my computers and finally learn MAC.
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#26 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:55 PM EDT{"commentId":1729512,"authorDomain":"jrb157"}
If I have to buy a new computer, it will have XP on it-or it will be a Mac. Been with Microsoft forever(DOS).
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#27 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:59 PM EDT{"commentId":1729516,"authorDomain":"lelia"}
I had my PC Vista swapped out for XP because I had so much trouble with Vista. I understand that the professional version is better, but the personal home version was a nightmare. Let's keep XP, please.
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#28 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:00 PM EDT{"commentId":1729518,"authorDomain":"avila2003"}
I have a laptop with XP Media and love it. Never had a problem. My husband wanted a laptop and found a good deal with a Vista installed which was all we could find all over town. We bought it and after 2 weeks of use we decided to return it. I did not like at all the Vista. In fact I hate it. After waiting and searching we bought a laptop at Office Depot with the XP installed. They said it was a one time deal so we snatched it. It was more expensive but worth the buy with the XP installed. Please keep the XP I recommend it to everyone.
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#29 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:00 PM EDT{"commentId":1729524,"authorDomain":"bthulman"}
MSFT ought to be ashamed. You buy a car and the parts are available for YEARS and YEARS. there should at least be a skeleton support process for past OS's. With all the $$ MSFT has it should do this.
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#30 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:01 PM EDT{"commentId":1729529,"authorDomain":"m-mgang"}
I have had several students who purchased new computers with Windows Vista who have already lost their machines to viruses because of the security holes in Vista. I know that Microsoft says these are repaired but...
Additionally, Windows XP works great. There is no reason to take it off the market or stop tech support on Windows XP except for Microsoft to make money. I have always been a Microsoft fan. I am a certified MCAS operator, but if we lose Windows XP to Vista, I may have to change to Unix or Linux for my home machine.
At work where I teach Microsoft products, this would not been a good thing, since to replace the machines would cost millions and this is something we do not have so we are at the mercy of Microsoft holding off on the expiration of Windows XP. I do not want to teach Vista, I think it will go the way that ME and not be around very long.
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#31 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:02 PM EDT{"commentId":1729546,"authorDomain":"munsell"}
Got a pretty good price on a Toshiba laptop which came loaded with Vista. Had a hard time trying to adjust from XP to Vista. uSoft changed the names of some Control Panel icons. Took awhile to locate where to remove programs that came loaded with the laptop. Ended up putting an icon on the desk top. Still prefer XP which is still on my PC.
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#32 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:04 PM EDT{"commentId":1729558,"authorDomain":"jln71"}
I bought my daughter a Dell with XP, with a free upgrade to VISTA, that went past the deadline and she wasn't able to upgrade. Thank God...because her friend has (had) Vista, and that computer crashed, was slow, was horrible, and Microsoft has to admit they made a wreck of a system with Vista. I already have 2 Dells, a desktop and a very expensive laptop, both with XP, and if they discontinue XP and support and require Dell buyers to have Vista...
Hello MAC!
APPLE will have all my future business if Microsoft doesn't wake up and smell the reality of Vista sucking the business from them.
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#33 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:06 PM EDT{"commentId":1729565,"authorDomain":"fsh323"}
Having used the gamut of Microsoft Systems, my conclusion is , Windows XP, is their best, and user
friendly system. Vista was pushed off on the public. We had no choice. Consequently we discontinued
buying new computers with Vista, and finally a few builders reluctantly offered a choice. XP runs well,on 512 ram, so I don't buy 2 gig and run VISTA ! I vote for dumping Vista !
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#34 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:07 PM EDT{"commentId":1796490,"authorDomain":"awesomeness"}
Thats the problem. Too many people are trying to squeak by on 512mb of RAM and single core processors. Stop being cheap and buy something that can handle it. The computer industry can't advance if everyone wants to keep using old technology. Besides memory is one of the simplest and most effective ways to boost computer performance not to mention that it is dirt cheap. you can get 2gb of RAM for ~$40 on an e-tailer site like Newegg.com (Newegg is a gift from God)
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{"commentId":2794276,"authorDomain":"thewyrm"}
BUY! More Ram! BUY a faster Processor! BUY a better Vid Card! BUY BUY BUY!
I bought the Damn Vista System, Why can't the PC manufacturers put the REQUIRED Hardware in the machine to make it run as it is supposed to? They try to skimp on giving you old H/Ware and expecting the consumer to upgrade it. A good majority of the population just knows how to put the key in the ignition and start the Car, Put it in drive and go. They have no idea of the inner workings of the machine. They just want to use the machine for it's intended purpose. They don't want to have to buy more hardware. Do you buy a 1 ton 4X4 with a lawnmower engine in it? No, the manufacturers at least make sure the engine has enough power to move the truck. PC manufacturers should do same.
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{"commentId":1729568,"authorDomain":"philtarn"}
In short, have both Vista and XP, Vista sucks
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#35 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:07 PM EDT{"commentId":1729572,"authorDomain":"pg15tlh"}
I think Microsoft is feeding us a bunch of bull again. Vista is selling as it is because most, if not all computer manufacturers sell only vista boxes. It is very difficult to find a new computer, either desktop of laptop, with XP installed. I personally think Windows 2000 Professional was the best OS microsoft produced. I still use it on several machines. I do use XP, but find it not as stable a 2000 and Vista is too memory intensive and slow.
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#36 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:08 PM EDT{"commentId":1729573,"authorDomain":"tomgarven"}
Have two Vista machines, one e-Machine 2 yrs old and one built from parts 4 months ago. Both are running Vista and have NEVER had a blue screen or lock up on either machine like XP. So the bottom line for me is Vista works and works very well.
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#37 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:08 PM EDT{"commentId":1729574,"authorDomain":"sixplustwoofus"}
I HAVE VISTA ON MY LAPTOP AN I ALWAYS HAVE TROUBLE WITH PROGRAMS.SOME OF THEM ALLOW ME TO USE THEM ON MORE THAN ONE COMPUTER.WITH VISTA I HAD TO BUY NEW VERSION OF THEM TO WORK ON VISTA COST ME MORE THAN IT WAS WORTH.I HAVE XP HOME AN PRO I HAVE NO TROUBLE WITH THEM.
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#38 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:08 PM EDT{"commentId":2067266,"authorDomain":"mystweaver"}
David, the caps lock is located on the left had side of your keyboard, right about where your pinky finger should be located. All-caps is rude, and considered "shouting" by computer users.
As far as Vista is concerned, There's a difference between a democracy and a dictatorship. In a democracy, you have the right to choose from more than one candidate, and the results show a true representation of choice (Usually). In a dictatorship, there is only one candidate, so they can claim they were elected in a landslide, even if nobody really wanted to vote for them.
Vista comes bundled with all new PC's, unless you want to pay more for the operating system they want to eliminate. Hence, they can claim sales that aren't really sales, but more like a forced purchase.
I am an IT professional at a large Health care corporation, and we buy our thousands of computers with Vista, which we don't use and I know of no plans to migrate, then wipe the hard drives and install XP Pro. I know this is a common practice.
My personal experience; I "upgraded" my work machine to Vista to see how it worked. After about 30 minutes of using it I re-booted. Upon trying to restart the machine, I found it wouldn't boot, because it dis-mounted all my volumes... permanently!
No tools available to me could fix this issue, so I ended having to do a low level format on the drive and re-build the machine, back to XP Pro.
This is on a Dell Optipex 745 with 2gb of ram. A high end standard business machine with good resources available. I did this about a month after getting the machine new. It was supposed to be "Vista Ready", as it came with Vista installed before we re-imaged it
Work: XP Pro. Home: 3 machines, all XP Pro.
I like to think of myself as one who learns from my mistakes and doesn't repeat them.
#7 better be a great OS, because the technical people don't even like Vista. I can't imagine being a home user who doesn't work on PC's! I wait in anticipation of disappointment.
I'd like to think MSFT would simply look at the stats. If I had 2 products, nobody really wanted one of them, and the same buyers loved the other one... From a marketing standpoint I see that one as a slam-dunk!
Just my observations and opinion.
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{"commentId":1729580,"authorDomain":"dslarsen290"}
I haven't been able to compare XP with Vista yet, but I love XP, and hate to learn something new. I am a digital scrapbooker, and Microsoft discontinued a much used program for digital scrapbooking, Digital Image Pro (what used to be Picture It!). Now people who want to use this program for Digital Scrapbooking or card making buy it pretty much on ebay where it is selling, in some cases, for over $100.00.
I think the reason Vista got as much a percent of sales as it did, is because it is more widely available than XP is. In order to find XP on a new computer, you have to search, and possibly buy online. I know that Dell offers VISTA or XP at the current time.
Shirley
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#39 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:09 PM EDT{"commentId":1729581,"authorDomain":"gr8smile4u"}
my toshiba that had windows xp media center on it crashed....hard drive related....i replaced it with an hp...the only choice i had was which version of vista did i want on it.....i hate it....most of my old software programs will not work on this version...ultimate 64 bit....i finally went and bought a copy of xp and installed it on the notebook....more $$$$$$ dished out for a copy that i already had on my toshiba....my next purchase will be APPLE related...thats for sure ...goodbye microsoft !!!!!!!!!!!
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#40 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:09 PM EDT{"commentId":1729586,"authorDomain":"camillem120"}
Vista is a systems hog, comparing system requirements for running software on XP vs. Vista is ridiculous. It's like having two flashlights, each giving out the same amount of light, but one takes 4 DD batteries, and the other takes a car battery AND a portable generator just to get it going. Vista should never have been released, at least not as it is.
Every person I know that has Vista has a nightmare story to tell about it...overloading memory, not allowing software to run, the list goes on and on. Perhaps anecdotal evidence isn't the best way to judge an OS as an IT expert, but as a consumer, it's the by far the best way to get a real idea of how a product performs in the real world.
Shouldn't a new operating system be MORE efficient than it's predecessor rather than less? Keep XP around until a REAL improved OS is made available. I'm usually the first in line for upgrades and a new OS, but Microsoft missed the mark on Vista, and it's one OS I'll gladly skip right over.
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#41 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:09 PM EDT{"commentId":1796505,"authorDomain":"awesomeness"}
The idea is that the hardware improves and should be able to handle the newer software. If microsoft wanted to make a super efficient OS they could, but it would have zero features.
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{"commentId":1729589,"authorDomain":"pg15tlh"}
I think Microsoft is feeding us a bunch of bull again. Vista is selling as it is because most, if not all computer manufacturers sell only vista boxes. It is very difficult to find a new computer, either desktop of laptop, with XP installed. I personally think Windows 2000 Professional was the best OS microsoft produced. I still use it on several machines. I do use XP, but find it not as stable a 2000 and Vista is too memory intensive and slow.
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#42 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:10 PM EDT{"commentId":1729590,"authorDomain":"peps626"}
I had been using OS/XP Pro. My experience with Vista it makes me sick. As far as Vista goes I am better off using OS/98 Second Edition. Working on some one else PC with Vista, either fixing it or installing any program it makes me feel like formatting the hardrive and installing XP I call that, what a difference. As far as purchasing a new PC/Laptop with Vista, I will make sure to request it, with XP. Fortunately I assemble my own PC with OS/XP.
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#43 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:10 PM EDT{"commentId":1729591,"authorDomain":"jruiz"}
As the director of the IT department, I was looking forward to the launch of Vista, but after I received my test version I launched it right back. Our company is a $60Mil + a year non-profit and I buy about $90 to @100K of tech equipment a year. We have some proprietary software and some custom made software, NONE OF WHICH will run on Vista. I was so glad I only commited to three systems for the test, otherwise I'd be stuck with a bunch of useless hardware. I tried to backtrack to XP but ran into problems which produced all kinds of errors at the startup, so my final solution was to reformat the hard drives and make a clean start with good old XP.
Now I PAY NOT TO LOAD VISTA when I buy a new system and ask the vendor to load it with XP even though I buy the Vista license. What will I do when Microsoft stops shipping XP? I'll keep buying the Vista license, reformat the hard drives and reload XP until Microsoft fixes Vista or comes up with something better.
Wonder if Bill Gates realizes what a great job he is doing to promote the viability of Linux?
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#44 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:10 PM EDT{"commentId":1729597,"authorDomain":"clbried"}
Wow, as i was reading most of these comments... i realised that most ppl have no clue as to what they are talking, save a few... I see the point of MS decision to stop XP, but since alot of ppl stil use it i think they should consider longer support for the OS, As for Vista, its like everything else in life, we get something new to replace the old. For example, most ppl by a new car whether they need it or not, and they need to get used to the new features that come with it. And its just like Vista. I have had Vista installed on both my laptop and my Home Entertainment PC for almost a year now. I have had hardly any problems at all. Except a few driver issues and that has nothing to do with MS. That has to do with the hardware manufacurers laziness. My Entertainment pc is older but Vista runs smooth and fast, the media center portion of vista is more clean and streamlined than that of XP MCE. Vista maybe a memory hog but the way it handles the memory makes up for it. As i remeber when 98/2k both came out ppl where pissed about the ammount of memory that was required for both OS's. Everything evolves... I really would like to know who is rally having problems with the OS or just having problems because they just really don't know what they are doing... I run very high memory usage and processor hungry applications and i still never seem to have problems.... As i said in the beginging... xp was a good OS and MS should continue support for it, but its time to move on....
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#45 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:11 PM EDT{"commentId":1729602,"authorDomain":"reaco"}
Remember the saying: "If it ain't broke (sic), don't fix it. VISTA is broken right out of the box. Admit the mistake with VISTA and prepare for the next OS to replace XP, but only if it is good enough. Designing the next OS will not be easy, but it will be worth it. Vista is not adequate.
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#46 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:12 PM EDT{"commentId":1729611,"authorDomain":"jhmoore-1"}
I recently purchased a new Acer laptop (2.3GB duo-core, 2GB ram) with Vista installed. I am not impressed.
Despite running (complex) AutoCAD software, I admittedly have not personally experienced the "crashing" or driver problems that I had often read about, and that I was initially apprehensive over. But I certainly HAVE found Vista to be slow. It's a memory hog deluxe, with an odd (non-intuitive) explorer screen that displays a confusing file structure. And the ever-present dialog boxes seeking specific approval for every software action is both annoying and time-consuming.
Finally, Microsoft's removal of XP from from the marketplace reeks of a haughty "take it or else" attitude regarding Vista that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I've been a staunch Microsoft user for nearly two decades, but unless MS recants and makes XP (a strong and reliable platform) once again an available and viable option, my next purchase will be a Mac ...
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#47 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:13 PM EDT{"commentId":1796514,"authorDomain":"awesomeness"}
AutoCAD is a taxing application on almost any computer ESPECIALLY a Laptop.
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{"commentId":1729613,"authorDomain":"silverharedfox"}
Vista MUST be good, my son-in-law is a game tester for Microsoft, he took it OFF his personal machines. His wife, my daughter, is a head IT tech for another big Seattle company and she says it sucks too.
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#48 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:13 PM EDT{"commentId":1796515,"authorDomain":"awesomeness"}
Just another follower who listens to whatever everyone else says...
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{"commentId":1729615,"authorDomain":"skipranch"}
The Vista program cost me an $800 computer. I battled with it for 3 1/2 months, and then I banged it on the table and broke some expensive parts. Now it is an $800 pile of junk, and I have a new desktop with XP, and love it.
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#49 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:13 PM EDT{"commentId":1729625,"authorDomain":"pullman"}
I've been in using computers since 1969 and worked for most of the companies in the industry including Microsoft. Vista is a DOG! ...and a pig for resources. There are NO productivity gains with the operating system. There is little support from software manufacturers - hence the lack of updates and drivers. The fact is it appears MS lost all the programmers who had a clue and is using the rest of the heap to attempt to survive. Of all the operating systems that have ever been produced in the last 30 years some have been buggy and some have had adjustement issues, but NONE have been hated like Vista. Microsoft has simply screwed up. The solution......go get one of those Linux software bootable CD operating systems and pop it in your Vista machine......they work faster and are smooth and will make that computer you bought howl......oh and one last thing.....there is tons of software available - lots of free software that can do a great job on every aspect. Vista is simply not going to happen - its going to continue to be the money loser that Microsoft is scared of................
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#50 - Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:15 PM EDT{"commentId":1796522,"authorDomain":"awesomeness"}
Linux is definitely not more compatible for the average user, although it may be faster on older hardware.
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I am a Linux/HP-UX/Solaris/Windows system admin, and saying Linux is NOT more compatible for the average user is both idiotic and misinforming (have you ever even seen Linux?? I am assuming not). Several releases of Linux are "install and Run" pieces of software. For example, you can take ANY machine that has been made in the last say 7 years, and releases like Gentoo, or Suse will scream, And they even have the nice little Gui's users are looking for. They are incredibly simple to use and configure. I have had ONE, yes ONE machine EVER that Gentoo Linux did not recognize and run every piece of hardware in the system.
Look, I am not saying that Vista will not turn into a great OS, However at the moment, Vista is Horrible is almost every sense of the word. Administration is difficult, it isn't compatible with MOST hardware, If you don't have a minimum of 4 gigs of ram your boned! Basically if your machine is older than say, 9 months it is useless.
Now I understand that Microsoft designed this "thing" for "new" systems, but you cannot expect people to rush out and buy new pc's just for Vista. Guess Bill gates forgets we aren't all billionaires.
Bare bones here (in my opinion) Linux/UNIX is the most stable, secure, and best performing os's in the world. Microsoft has always been on the back burner for me, but with vista, they aren't even in the kitchen.
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