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NY governor vows to examine undercover police procedures

Wed May 7, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
us-news, police, shooting, al-sharpton, david-paterson, police-shooting, brooklyn-bridge
Jennifer Peltz, Associated Press
Civil rights activist Reverend Al Sharpton says the protest is about civil rights, not racial injustice.
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<p>Protestors of the Sean Bell verdict gather on 125th street Wednesday, May 7, 2008  in New York. bridges and tunnels in the city. The protests were part of a coordinated campaign to urge federal authorities to investigate the November 2006 shooting of Sean Bell. Three officers were acquitted of state charges last month. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)</p>

Protestors of the Sean Bell verdict gather on 125th street Wednesday, May 7, 2008 in New York. bridges and tunnels in the city. The protests were part of a coordinated campaign to urge federal authorities to investigate the November 2006 shooting of Sean Bell. Three officers were acquitted of state charges last month. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

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NEW YORK — Gov. David Paterson pledged to examine undercover police conduct on Thursday, a day after more than 200 people were arrested protesting the acquittal of three detectives involved in the shooting death of an unarmed man.

Paterson said he understood the activists' frustrations as he stood with the slain man's fiancee and the Rev. Al Sharpton, who were among the demonstrators arrested while disrupting evening rush hour traffic. But the governor stopped short of endorsing their actions.

"No civil servant can condone civil disobedience," Paterson said, but he added: "They felt that they had no other choice but to take the action that they took, and I respect the decision that they made to take that action."

The governor's involvement was a measure of the emotion and unrelenting attention surrounding the shooting of Sean Bell, who was gunned down hours before he was to be married in November 2006.

The gunfire stirred complaints about police tactics, and the acquittals on April 25 in state court prompted some activists to question the prospects of justice for minorities. Bell was black as were two of his friends wounded in the shooting; the officers are black, Hispanic and white.

Paterson, New York's first black governor, said Thursday he would explore undercover officer procedures, saying the advocates had suggested plainclothes officers should not suddenly "change the script" and act as police.

He also said he would consider potential statewide legislation compelling officers to take sobriety tests after some shootings, such as those in which police fire at people who prove to be unarmed. The New York Police Department last year began requiring such tests when officers kill or wound someone.

Sharpton and Bell's supporters are pressing for federal civil rights charges in the case. Sharpton — who orchestrated Wednesday's protests at the Brooklyn Bridge, the Holland Tunnel and other major transportation arteries — promised Thursday to stage another mass demonstration if progress wasn't made toward their goals.

The next protest would be somewhere in New York City within seven to 10 days, said Charlie King, acting national director of Sharpton's National Action Network.

Federal prosecutors are reviewing the case but declined comment Thursday.

Bell and his friends were shot as they left his bachelor party at a Queens strip club. The officers said they believed Bell and his friends were about to get a gun; no firearm was found. Bell's friends said the police shot without warning, which the officers denied.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly has said his department is considering disciplinary action against the detectives.

Sharpton, shooting survivors Trent Benefield and Joseph Guzman and Bell's fiancee, Nicole Paultre Bell, were released Wednesday about four hours after their arrests on disorderly conduct charges. Paultre Bell legally took her fiance's name after his death.

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jerrycluer

Sharpton will never miss oportunity to get attention..

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Wed May 7, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
SuperUnspecial

I think you missed the point.

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Wed May 7, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
Kai

I think you missed the point.

I think you missed his point.

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Wed May 7, 2008 11:44 PM EDT
philipe

If the reverend Al was serious about the Sean Bell protests, the civil disobedience would have started on the Friday the officers were acquitted.

Sean Bell's friends and relatives should rightfully be pissed at Sharpton who again proves himself to be a self promoting zip. A total zero.

But after all, this is all about the civil suit. A mad dash for the cash.

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Thu May 8, 2008 12:33 AM EDT
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vicaxp

U.S. attorney spokesman Robert Nardoza said the case was under review, but he declined to comment further.

I am SO SICK of this type of response from those that are ALLOWED to be in charge!

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Wed May 7, 2008 6:53 PM EDT
Pamela Drew

You're not alone vicaxp' seeded a fabulous, article about Sean Bell, that ran in the Village Voice last week. It zero attention or discussion so you probably missed it. :~) Take a peek now it would probably make you feel better about the call for justice that's ignored by media that does ignoring better than anything. It's a huge story here in NYC, talk in the subways and shops, not surprisingly the focus AP has isn't quite the same as the views captured here.

What Sean Bell's Legacy Needs To Be

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Thu May 8, 2008 1:23 AM EDT
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wheeties

Not a big fan of Sharpton, but at least someone is doing it.

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Wed May 7, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
IndependentVoter

Apparently the rule of law only applies if we like the ruling.

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Wed May 7, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
Sir. Thinkswaytoomuch

Apparently the rule of law only applies if we like the ruling.

And apparently the right to peaceful assembly no longer is a value.

  • 5 votes
#3.2 - Wed May 7, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
Tacitus13

And apparently the right to peaceful assembly no longer is a value.

It's not the right to peacefully assemble in the middle of the street to disrupt traffic.

  • 2 votes
#3.3 - Wed May 7, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
SuperUnspecial

The right to peaceably assemble

(so long as it doesn't disrupt anyone's commute)

  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Wed May 7, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
Pamela Drew

Tacitus13...It's not the right to peacefully assemble in the middle of the street to disrupt traffic.

Fantastic you're concerned about the vehicle flow in the city. Is that a new issue for you to defend? Great logic, the people who live here and are upset that an unarmed guy can have cops put 50 bullets into him and walk.

But they better keep their asses out of the streets, where the God given right to sit and burn fossil fuel and pollute the air is a paramount value to protect. We can shut the route down only for serious cultural occasions that include such critical rights issues as swigging green beer.

Disrupt traffic? The majority of New Yorkers would like to see the bulk of commuters banned from clogging up the city and fouling the environment. Pedestrians and mass transit users are the majority. Gridlock is the norm and none worse than when Bush visits and the UN events shut down routes all over the City.

Suggesting traffic flow trumps Justice is bad enough but get a clue what number of the shut downs happen for everything from filming movies to street fairs and it is a daily event all over the city. Size varies but welcome to New York life!!!

The suggestion it is some unusual occurrence is an absolute joke.

  • 5 votes
#3.5 - Thu May 8, 2008 1:43 AM EDT
Adam Becker

Apparently the rule of law only applies if we like the ruling.

Umm...yeah? Have you heard of the civil rights movement (which is still going on, really)?

  • 2 votes
#3.6 - Thu May 8, 2008 2:28 AM EDT
Tacitus13

the people who live here and are upset that an unarmed guy can have cops put 50 bullets into him and walk.

The judge couldn't convict the cops because of all the conflicting statements from the witnesses. What did you want him to do, base his ruling on his emotions?

The majority of New Yorkers would like to see the bulk of commuters banned from clogging up the city and fouling the environment. Pedestrians and mass transit users are the majority.

Then NYC residents should vote for politicians willing to take a stand against commuting. I mean, if they're such a majority, it shouldn't be a problem, right?

But they better keep their asses out of the streets, where the God given right to sit and burn fossil fuel and pollute the air is a paramount value to protect. We can shut the route down only for serious cultural occasions that include such critical rights issues as swigging green beer.

You have to get a permit to peacefully assemble in large groups in designated areas pretty much anywhere. It's not a joke to those people who are losing money from this because they're late to work or late making deliveries or late to the airport. What if it's the ambulance you're riding in that's an hour late to the hospital? I fail to see the joke there.

  • 1 vote
#3.7 - Thu May 8, 2008 8:39 AM EDT
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IndependentVoter

Yeah..that will change the Judge's ruling. You bet.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Wed May 7, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
JoulesBeef

why not?
it did in rodney king. paris hilton and several others.

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Wed May 7, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
Pamela Drew

paris hilton

But Paris was so sorry!

  • 1 vote
#4.2 - Thu May 8, 2008 1:46 AM EDT
IndependentVoter

Marching in the streets changed a judge's rendered decision? When?

  • 1 vote
#4.3 - Thu May 8, 2008 10:18 AM EDT
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Lotto

"close this city down" with civil disobedience.

I agree that he has the right and a reason to do what he is doing, protesting. The remark he made about closing the city will only incite a riot and cause more problems. He brought attention to it, so let it run it's course through the courts. I don't agree with the ruling, I think there should be a federal investigation.

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Wed May 7, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
Adam Hobson

the 50-bullet shooting of an unarmed black man on his wedding day.

While Bell was not in possession of a gun, he was hardly unarmed as he was shot in the process of attempting to ram the police officers with his car.

According to the person briefed on the accounts, the detective, his police badge around his neck, then pulled out his gun, identified himself as a police officer and ordered the occupants to show their hands. They did not comply, the person said, but instead gunned the car forward, hitting the undercover officer and, seconds later, an unmarked police minivan. The undercover officer fired the first of 11 shots, yelling, "He's got a gun! He's got a gun!"

source

  • 7 votes
Reply#6 - Wed May 7, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
cgbs6183

The defendants are racially mixed as the article points out

the three officers acquitted in the case are Hispanic, black and white.

I want to know how this is construed as racist?

  • 6 votes
Reply#7 - Wed May 7, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
Kai

I want to know how this is construed as racist?

Does there have to be logic when people play the race card anymore? Just seems as if a black man is a supposed 'victim' in anything anymore, its automatically racist somehow. Jeeze.

  • 3 votes
#7.1 - Wed May 7, 2008 11:47 PM EDT
CFJr

because they're not saying that the cops were racist. They're suggesting you to look at the ruling...we all know (rather you agree with it or not) that if this was Jonathan Doe in costa mesa, ca....we would all really stop and think? Is this OK? There should at least be a federal indictment, and if the government think that we're all blinded by American Idol instead of what is going on. They are sadly mistaken, People back in the 50's and 60's were getting killed. The least I can do is have a peaceful protest!! I am protesting the court judicial system...we already know the cops (and may i add, not all of them) are "easy" handy on the gun when there's an African-American involved.

You at least have to give this woman (the widow) the benefit, just because there never was a weapon found. And the police officer did empty two rounds (after reloading twice)

lets not be so ignorant to think that these things do not still exist.

    #7.2 - Thu May 8, 2008 12:08 AM EDT
    philipe

    The ruling by Cooperman was just. The prosecution didn't prove their case. Even Sharpton knew it was a dog.

    Everything now depends on a federal civil rights case and that doesn't appear to be that probable.

    So, it's onto the civil case where the city will gratefully open the vault to put this sorry episode to bed.

    • 4 votes
    #7.3 - Thu May 8, 2008 1:10 AM EDT
    Kai

    And the police officer did empty two rounds (after reloading twice)

    Huh?

    • 1 vote
    #7.4 - Thu May 8, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
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    IndependentVoter

    There will always be rulings by the courts that somebody does not like or agree with. Get over it.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#8 - Thu May 8, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
    LC3

    It's the implications of the ruling that make it hard to get over.

      #8.1 - Thu May 8, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
      Sir. Thinkswaytoomuch

      Some people actually speak up at injustice. Get over it.

        #8.2 - Thu May 8, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
        IndependentVoter

        Life is not fair. Get over it.

        • 2 votes
        #8.3 - Thu May 8, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
        LC3

        When you don't get a seat on the bus, life isn't fair. When it appears that the system colluded to excuse blatant criminal violence by public officials, citing the unfairness of life doesn't cut it.

        • 1 vote
        #8.4 - Fri May 9, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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