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WASHINGTON — Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, ending a grueling marathon to become the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.
Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial and gender divisions within the party.
The tally was based on public declarations from delegates as well as from another 16 who have confirmed their intentions to the AP. It also included 11 delegates Obama was guaranteed as long as he gained 30 percent of the vote in South Dakota and Montana later in the day. It takes 2,118 delegates to clinch the nomination.
The 46-year-old first-term senator will face John McCain in the fall campaign to become the 44th president. The Arizona senator campaigned in Memphis, Tenn., during the day, and had no immediate reaction to Obama's victory.
Clinton stood ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. They stressed that the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans.
Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy — all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner.
With her husband's two-White House terms as a backdrop, Clinton campaigned for months as the candidate of experience, a former first lady and second-term senator ready, she said, to take over on Day One.
But after a year on the campaign trail, Obama won the kickoff Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and the freshman senator became something of an overnight political phenomenon.
"We came together as Democrats, as Republicans and independents, to stand up and say we are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come," he said that night in Des Moines.
A video produced by Will I. Am and built around Obama's "Yes, we can" rallying cry quickly went viral. It drew its one millionth hit within a few days of being posted.
As the strongest female presidential candidate in history, Clinton drew large, enthusiastic audiences. Yet Obama's were bigger still. One audience, in Dallas, famously cheered when he blew his nose on stage; a crowd of 75,000 turned out in Portland, Ore., the weekend before the state's May 20 primary.
The former first lady countered Obama's Iowa victory with an upset five days later in New Hampshire that set the stage for a campaign marathon as competitive as any in the last generation.
"Over the last week I listened to you, and in the process I found my own voice," she told supporters who had saved her candidacy from an early demise.
In defeat, Obama's aides concluded they had committed a cardinal sin of New Hampshire politics, forsaking small, intimate events in favor of speeches to large audiences inviting them to ratify Iowa's choice.
It was not a mistake they made again — which helped explain Obama's later outings to bowling alleys, backyard basketball hoops and American Legion halls in the heartland.
Clinton conceded nothing, memorably knocking back a shot of Crown Royal whiskey at a bar in Indiana, recalling that her grandfather had taught her to use a shotgun, and driving in a pickup to a gas station in South Bend, Ind., to emphasize her support for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax.
As other rivals quickly fell away in winter, the strongest black candidate in history and the strongest female White House contender traded victories on Super Tuesday, the Feb. 5 series of primaries and caucuses across 21 states and American Samoa that once seemed likely to settle the nomination.
But Clinton had a problem that Obama exploited, and he scored a coup she could not answer.
Pressed for cash, the former first lady ran noncompetitive campaigns in several Super Tuesday caucus states, allowing her rival to run up his delegate totals.
At the same time, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., endorsed the young senator in terms that summoned memories of his slain brothers while seeking to turn the page on the Clinton era.
In a reference that likened former President Clinton to Harry Truman: "There was another time, when another young candidate was running for president and challenging America to cross a new frontier. He faced criticism from the preceding Democratic president, who was widely respected in the party."
Merely by surviving Super Tuesday, Obama exceeded expectations.
But he did more than survive, emerging with a lead in delegates that he never relinquished, and proceeded to run off a string of 11 straight victories.
Clinton saved her candidacy once more with primary victories in Ohio and Texas on March 4, beginning a stretch in which she won primaries in six of the final nine states on the calendar, as well as in Puerto Rico.
It was a strong run, providing glimpses of what might have been for the one-time front-runner.
But by then Obama was well on his way to victory, Clinton and her allies stressed the popular vote instead of delegates. Yet he seemed to emerge from each loss with residual strength.
Obama's bigger-than-expected victory in North Carolina on May 6 offset his narrow defeat in Indiana the same day. Four days later, he overtook Clinton's lead among superdelegates, the party leaders she had hoped would award her the nomination on the basis of a strong showing in swing states.
Obama lost West Virginia by a whopping 67 percent to 26 percent on May 13. Yet he won an endorsement the following day from former presidential rival and one-time North Carolina Sen. John Edwards.
Clinton administered another drubbing in Kentucky a week later. This time, Obama countered with a victory in Oregon, and turned up that night in Iowa to say he had won a majority of all the delegates available in 56 primaries and caucuses on the calendar.
There were moments of anger, notably in a finger-wagging debate in South Carolina on Jan. 21.
Obama told the former first lady he was helping unemployed workers on the streets of Chicago when "you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart."
Moments later, Clinton said that she was fighting against misguided Republican policies "when you were practicing law and representing your contributor ... in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."
And Bill Clinton was a constant presence and an occasional irritant for Obama. The former president angered several black politicians when he seemed to diminish Obama's South Carolina triumph by noting that Jesse Jackson had also won the state.
Obama's frustration showed at the Jan. 21 debate, when he accused the former president in absentia of uttering a series of distortions.
"I'm here. He's not," the former first lady snapped.
"Well, I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes," Obama countered.
There were relatively few policy differences. Clinton accused Obama of backing a health care plan that would leave millions out, and the two clashed repeatedly over trade.
Yet race, religion, region and gender became political fault lines as the two campaigned from coast to coast.
Along the way, Obama showed an ability to weather the inevitable controversies, most notably one caused by the incendiary rhetoric of his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
At first, Obama said he could not break with his longtime spiritual adviser. Then, when Wright spoke out anew, Obama reversed course and denounced him strongly.
Clinton struggled with self-inflicted wounds. Most prominently, she claimed to have come under sniper fire as first lady more than a decade earlier while paying a visit to Bosnia.
Instead, videotapes showed her receiving a gift of flowers from a young girl who greeted her plane.
___
Associated Press Writers Nedra Pickler and Beth Fouhy in Washington, Stephen Majors in Columbus, Ohio, Jim Davenport in Columbia, S.C., and Libby Quaid in Memphis, Tenn.
© 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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{"commentId":1883012,"authorDomain":"webquack"}
Some seriously conflicting reports today... I'm confused...moving on
{"commentId":1883012,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"webquack"}
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#1 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 1:50 PM EDT{"commentId":1883078,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}
mmm we will see !
{"commentId":1883078,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1884460,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}
Web and Barry
Maybe this quote from Ben Jealous, the new president of the NAACP, will help you focus.
"This is the century when white people will become a minority in this country. What that means is, right now, we need to have a clear picture of where we headed."
He's a very smart and realistic young man.
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{"commentId":1884657,"authorDomain":"webquack"}
What exactly did you get from my brief comment for that response? Don't bother, you scare me already.
{"commentId":1884657,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"webquack"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1884749,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}
He may be smart and realistic but he also seems to be some sort of Ayran cheerleader.
So who apart from you and he and a couple of racist tribes scattered about cares about whether the color of your skin matters?
The whole notion of 'white people' is sad.
It appears that we are moving from the Alice in Wonderland mathmatics to a new phase wherein whitey's knees are going to be made to knock.
The only reason people are white is that they were initially happy to live in dank @!$%#holes in northern climates. [I'm white by the way, Kinda, although I'm very brown at this stage in my life]
{"commentId":1884749,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1884929,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}
He is stating a fact. There will be no dominate race. Does that scare you? It's the fruition of the founder's dream. All men and women here and all over this spinning globe are created equal. We really need to think about this.
{"commentId":1884929,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"jade-log"}
{"commentId":1885009,"authorDomain":"webquack"}
@jade
Nothing you have said relates to my original comment about conflicting reports & for that reason alone your statements have no interest for me... At least vote for your own comments so you don't look like such a zero. bye now.
{"commentId":1885009,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"webquack"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1885051,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}
Web
You stated , "I'm confused." I just thought that when we really understand
how this conflict will resolve itself. We may need to understand that this is
a complete paradigm shift. It's the end of the world as we know it.
{"commentId":1885051,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"jade-log"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1885614,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
The only reason people are white is that they were initially happy to live in dank @!$%#holes in northern climates. [I'm white by the way, Kinda, although I'm very brown at this stage in my life]
That's about as intelligent as saying the only reason people are black is because they were afraid to leave home.
{"commentId":1885614,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1885655,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
That's evolution, JR... white people didn't need as much melanin once they left Africa.
{"commentId":1885655,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"isaacs"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1885845,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}
sorry Jade, I missed your point, my experience has always been that individuals who point out the decline of one cosmetic type of human are usually doing so to justify their own prejudices.
But that does not seem to be the case here so I apologise for my attitude.
{"commentId":1885845,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1887510,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}
Win Thanks for your gracious comment. We need to follow your example and be a little kinder to each other . The Democrats voted half to half. Now is the time to salve the wounds.
{"commentId":1887510,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"jade-log"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1883153,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}
I have been saying this since March 14.
{"commentId":1883153,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"doubledemon"}
- 4 votes
#2 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 2:05 PM EDT{"commentId":1883178,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}
Well Done Double Demon (~)
{"commentId":1883178,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1883487,"authorDomain":"NewsNerd"}
Just about everyone on Newsvine has been saying this since this time last year.
{"commentId":1883487,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"NewsNerd"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1883515,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}
Doub
Can you now predict where the country will be in 2012? I'm curious to know how Iraq turned out. How's the economy in an Obama presidency? Will there be any new wars? What happened to heath care and social security?
I'd even like to know what Hillary is doing.
{"commentId":1883515,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"jade-log"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1883564,"authorDomain":"NewsNerd"}
Jade, it doesn't matter where the country is in 2012. Doesn't everyone know that is when the Aztec calendar restarts, and the world is turned to rubble?
{"commentId":1883564,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"NewsNerd"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1884143,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}
If Hillary gets her way, she will be the Democratic Nominee in 2012 after destroying Obama's chances at winning the presidency in 2008. If she does succeed, McCain will invade Iran and abolish Social Security and stamp out any possibility of universal health care.
I don't know if the above will come true, but that is my prediction for Hillary if she gets her way.
Everyone who has studied presidential politics could have told you on 3/14 that Obama had the nomination wrapped up at that point. I don't claim to be a clairvoiant, just a student of presidential elections.
{"commentId":1884143,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"doubledemon"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1884308,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}
News
Smashing response! Maybe this quote will establish the Zeit Geist
of that era to be. I quote from, "The Pursuit of the Millennium",
Pub. oxford U. Press, 1970,
Norman Cohn, p. 98:
"The messianic movements of the masses were not only
becoming more independent, they were becoming more
frankly hostile to the rich and privileged. In this they reflec-
ted a real change in popular sentiment."
Oddly this is about the last crusades of the poor. Still it is surprisingly current.
{"commentId":1884308,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"jade-log"}
{"commentId":1884347,"authorDomain":"steelerdog"}
McCain will invade Iran and abolish Social Security and stamp out any possibility of universal health care.
I know you mean to slam McCain here, but other than invading Iran, those things sound pretty damned good to me. What ticks me off is that the government is still taking money out of my check for social security, even though they know I'll never see a dime.
{"commentId":1884347,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"steelerdog"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1884409,"authorDomain":"NewsNerd"}
Jade- I don't know if you were addressing me or what, but the message has rung true ever since hierchial society has been around (Think a couple dozen millennia.).
Fred- I totally agree, except...I sure would like to invade Iran before they try and do something themselves.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1884479,"authorDomain":"steelerdog"}
I sure would like to invade Iran before they try and do something themselves.
Nah, send some French guys to negotiate with them...:)
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{"commentId":1884987,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}
News and Fred
Let's solve our energy problem and stop being dependent on the oil producers. Let them creep back a few centuries, if that's what they want. Let's focus on getting ourselves back on track and let those who wish to do so our follow our example. We don't need to blow the hell out of another country.
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{"commentId":1885041,"authorDomain":"steelerdog"}
News and Fred
Let's solve our energy problem and stop being dependent on the oil producers. Let them creep back a few centuries, if that's what they want. Let's focus on getting ourselves back on track and let those who wish to do so our follow our example. We don't need to blow the hell out of another country.
Yeah, that's why I said I don't want to invade Iran.
Something about that "let them creep back a few centuries" bothers me. I used to think that, but it seems to me that a nation that is industrially and economically backward AND has nukes is a problem waiting to mushroom in someone's back yard. I don't want to forsake these OPEC nations like we did in Afghanistan after the Russians left there. It is in our self-interest to keep them in the economic loop. Obviously, like you say, "if they want" to stay backward, that should be their prerogative, but I doubt seriously that the majority of Iranians wish to go back to living in tents. So, how do we keep them in the circle of modern nations and still let them have their sovreignty? Send in the CIA...;)
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{"commentId":1885079,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
I used to think that, but it seems to me that a nation that is industrially and economically backward AND has nukes is a problem waiting to mushroom in someone's back yard.
Are you talking about Iran? Iran is not industrially and economically backwards. Quite the opposite, actually.
{"commentId":1885079,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1885145,"authorDomain":"doubledemon"}
I like Social Security and Universal Health Care. I don't like invading countries for no good reason: see Iraq.
{"commentId":1885145,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"doubledemon"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1885202,"authorDomain":"jade-log"}
Fred
I'm sorry that I didn't read you closely. I think the quote was kind of
creepy myself. There are very sophisticated Muslim countries and
the real tenets of Islam are very akin to Christian theology. Jesus
is seen as a prophet for goodness sake. I actually taught Iranians
at a school in Switzerland. They are a fiercely independent people.
I think that if we remove ourselves from the morass we call Iraq, we
can expect Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, et al. to
stabilize the situation in their own best interests. I know it's a risk but
we simply cannot grasp this culture. We need to exit.
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{"commentId":1889562,"authorDomain":"steelerdog"}
Are you talking about Iran? Iran is not industrially and economically backwards. Quite the opposite, actually
I agree, but the comment I was quoting said to "let them creep back a few centuries". My position is that I don't want any nation to creep back a few centuries, particularly one that has nukes. It's dangerous.
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{"commentId":1883280,"authorDomain":"joegrind"}
It's seems Barack Obama is viewable in 3D judging from the glasses of the lady in the lower right corner of the picture.
{"commentId":1883280,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"joegrind"}
- 2 votes
#3 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 2:19 PM EDT{"commentId":1883496,"authorDomain":"NewsNerd"}
(The third picture, people.)
{"commentId":1883496,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"NewsNerd"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1883553,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}
must get my Bolle's changed !
{"commentId":1883553,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1883307,"authorDomain":"TBK"}
It's not over until Hillary Clinton stands on the stage tonight in NYC and declares a victory speech to keep fighting on or a victory speech, conceding the end of her race and the beginning of the Democratic race for the White House and supporting the nominee with the delegate count, Barack Obama'.
No one but Hillary knows which way she will go, but it will be critical for the Democrats success in the fall, to start mending fences asap and tonight will be a great start.
Hillary Clinton can place her mark in the history books, if she commits to doing what's good for the Party. Only time will tell....
{"commentId":1883307,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"TBK"}
- 2 votes
#4 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 2:21 PM EDT{"commentId":1883332,"authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}
Reply. I think your right but I reluctantly think the writing is right there on the wall staring her in the face in Big Black letters against a white background !
{"commentId":1883332,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"barry-rutherford"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1883341,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
Barck Obama does not clinch the nomination until the roll call vote in Denver. Period. Until that time he is the presumed nominee. Period.
{"commentId":1883341,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1883392,"authorDomain":"apollo"}
Come on John, don't ruin our fun, Obama is our man, now, let us look to November.
{"commentId":1883392,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"apollo"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1883802,"authorDomain":"steelerdog"}
Barck Obama does not clinch the nomination until the roll call vote in Denver. Period. Until that time he is the presumed nominee. Period.
While I disagree with you on one level, I DO think it's a little hypocritical for anyone who cheered on Al Gore when he refused to concede to tell Hillary to quit at this point. But, still...it's over if those people who have committed follow through, and the only thing that could make them change their minds is some catastrophic revelation about Obama. And it would have to be a hell of a lot juicier than some alleged tape of Michelle Obama going off on whitey.
So, a premature but sincere "congratulations Senator Obama" from me.
{"commentId":1883802,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"steelerdog"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1883395,"authorDomain":"optimisto"}
Amen
{"commentId":1883395,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"optimisto"}
- 1 vote
#5 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 2:32 PM EDT{"commentId":1883461,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1883486,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
F*ckin' A baby! *high fives* Game's over. :-)
{"commentId":1883486,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"isaacs"}
- 9 votes
#7 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 2:42 PM EDT{"commentId":1883591,"authorDomain":"caroaber"}
On to Denver, the debates, and WashingtonD.C.
Congratulations on a fight well fought. I bet the writer Shelby Steele, who had dismissed his chances weeks before Super Tuesday, would like to eat his words right now.
{"commentId":1883591,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"caroaber"}
- 3 votes
#8 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 2:51 PM EDT{"commentId":1883628,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
You know it. Obama's campaign is the most democratic thing to happen to American politics in a generation.
{"commentId":1883628,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"isaacs"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1884048,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1884104,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
You'll have to use words... I don't understand questions in the form of ellipsis points. :-)
{"commentId":1884104,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"isaacs"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":1884112,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
You know it. Obama's campaign is the most democratic thing to happen to American politics in a generation.
Yeah, those anti-elderly, anti-workingclass, anti-disabled, caucuses were SO democratic.
{"commentId":1884112,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1884123,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1884181,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1884219,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
CM:
I was hoping you would expend on how it's the most democratic thing to happen to America.
His Internet based approach has brought hundreds of thousands of Americans new to the system into participating in the election process and that is a good thing for democracy. He has many volunteers as well.
{"commentId":1884219,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"isaacs"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1884445,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1884621,"authorDomain":"jimdent"}
After my 7th trip to the litter box (yes...seven)
Litter box?
{"commentId":1884621,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"jimdent"}
{"commentId":1884626,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
People often mistake me for a right-wing loon.
Hmmm. I'm not sure why that would happen. Maybe it has something to do with:
Why would anyone in America vote for someone with HUSSAIN in their name?
Barrack HUSSAIN Obama (too close to OSAMA) will never get my vote.
written under the name:
cartoonmohammed
Ya think? Maybe?
{"commentId":1884626,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":1884864,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1885017,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
Ah, I see. Must be nice and easy living in your cartoon world where all Muslims are out to kill you and anyone who disagrees with you is anti-American and shallow.
Let me know how that works out for you, ok?
{"commentId":1885017,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1885144,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1885228,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
Let's see... you cited freedom of speech, as if anyone who didn't like your user name was opposed to that. That's where the Anti-American came in. Shallow...Britney, etc... So you, you did say that.
Maybe this will test your swayability.
I live in Turkey. Everyone I know here is Muslim. My wife, whom I know quite well, is Muslim. And you know, they're all really cool people, and I would imagine that very few want to kill you.
{"commentId":1885228,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":1885235,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
Interesting, thanks for laying out your beliefs.
{"commentId":1885235,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"isaacs"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":1892607,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
Dennis:
Let's see... you cited freedom of speech, as if anyone who didn't like your user name was opposed to that. That's where the Anti-American came in. Shallow...Britney, etc... So you, you did say that.
I believe he is referring to the violent backlash to the cartoon. Jesus gets lampooned frequently but we don't run around killing people and planting bombs at embassies because of it.
I live in Turkey. Everyone I know here is Muslim. My wife, whom I know quite well, is Muslim. And you know, they're all really cool people, and I would imagine that very few want to kill you.
It sounds like our friend was in Iraq. I imagine he has had quite a different experience with Muslims than you.
{"commentId":1892607,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"isaacs"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1894013,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
I believe he is referring to the violent backlash to the cartoon
No, we were talking about his username.
{"commentId":1894013,"threadId":"277419","contentId":"1535374","authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":1894301,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
I'm aware... that's why I think he chose that particular username.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1894491,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
He said himself that he chose the name because he's biased.
...and yes I am 'profiling' with the name. I admit I'm human and have some bias.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1883622,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
The tally was based on public declarations from delegates as well as from another 15 who have confirmed their intentions to the AP. It also included 11 delegates Obama was guaranteed as long as he gained 30 percent of the vote in South Dakota and Montana later in the day. It takes 2,118 delegates to clinch the nomination.
As much as I'd love to believe it, I'd like to see this final tally shown on all media networks and declared by the DNC. So much BS has ocurred in this race thus far that I'm led to be skeptical about everything.
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- 3 votes
#9 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 2:55 PM EDT{"commentId":1883640,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
We have to take the momentum and run with it, AB. ;-)
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1884158,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
We have to take the momentum and run with it, AB. ;-)
You're a barrel of laughs today. What momentum would that be? The artificial momentum created by the party elites twisting the arms of the superdelegates? Surely you can't mean momentum at the polling booth? He has had hardly any for 2 months. The one state he did dominate, North Carolina, 92% of blacks voted for him. Anything under 70% black vote that day and he would have lost the state. He has no momentum.
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{"commentId":1884229,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
JR:
The momentum of capturing the needed number of delegates to be the nominee. Anyone that thinks Hillary will take this to the convention must want her political career to end because that would be the result of such an action.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1884420,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
JohnRussell
The one state he did dominate, North Carolina, 92% of blacks voted for him.
North Carolina 67/48
Virginia 54/29
Maryland 42/28
Washington 52/26
Illinois 104/49
Georgia 60/27
Minnesota 48/24
Colorado 36/19
Kansas 23/9
Source
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1885674,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
We are talking about MOMENTUM. With the exception of North Carolina, every state you mention voted in February. That is almost 4 months ago.
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{"commentId":1886472,"authorDomain":"arcanebliss"}
Of the three states she beat Obama by a large percentage - the largest consisted of 200,000 people,
The argument that he hasn't led in the latest contests by large leads hardly disproves that there is Obama momentum. Especially when the last couple of states were expected to go to Clinton thanks to how Clinton-demographic-rich they were.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1883697,"authorDomain":"mstover111"}
No but their both just as dangerous
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#10 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:03 PM EDT{"commentId":1883708,"authorDomain":"ryanbooker"}
Yeah he only just clinched it today. Yep. Just today.
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- 1 vote
#11 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:05 PM EDT{"commentId":1883850,"authorDomain":"evaunit6"}
I think Obama has had about 11 or 12 superdelegates make their endorsements in his favor this morning alone...
It's over.
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- 2 votes
#12 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:19 PM EDT{"commentId":1884105,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1884009,"authorDomain":"funkybunch"}
Finally.
Now let's go get John McCain.
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- 3 votes
#13 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:37 PM EDT{"commentId":1884111,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
Amen to that, he needs some gettin' to.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1884515,"authorDomain":"spankymcgoo"}
I'm a tiny little scared white person in America and I've been trained by my Republican masters to fear names like Hussain/Hussein. I fear Muslims and disenfranchised black preachers. I can only vote for someone if they are a white, Christian male. I know I'm much safer now that Iraq has been ripped into shreds and civil war even if they weren't really a threat to me. Osama Bin Laden is the same as Saddam Hussein, right? I can't tell the difference. Since McCain uses Sunni and Shia interchangeably, I assume there is no difference. I was told not to talk to any of them unless they allow everyone to vote and buy our products. My job is gone and my house just went into foreclosure and my son-in-law was killed in his 7th tour of duty in Afghanistan or Iraq or Iraqistan but that's all the more reason to support the status quo. Why would I want change? And, don't tell me how many bills Mr. Barack Osama authored while he was a Senator. Or how many laws he wrote or co-wrote in the Illinois state legislator. He doesn't have as much experience as my man GW Bush had when he became our greatest President ever. I only hope McCain can call on GW Bush as an adviser when things get tough. Maybe GW Bush will get a fancy job in the new McCain administration. That would keep things exactly as they are right at this very moment. Rush Limbaugh is coming on. I have to run.
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- 3 votes
#14 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:27 PM EDT{"commentId":1884553,"authorDomain":"steelerdog"}
Reverend Pfleger? Is that you?
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{"commentId":1884600,"authorDomain":"wste774705"}
Might want to check in with Dr Phil, Opra, and Ellen Degenerate while you're at it...
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{"commentId":1884679,"authorDomain":"osaide"}
I think he was being sarcastic guys, at least i hope he was... Made me laugh though (or i am a sick sick puppy)
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1884790,"authorDomain":"lisaed"}
One audience, in Dallas, famously cheered when he blew his nose on stage;
Now that-is just wrong.
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- 2 votes
#15 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:01 PM EDT{"commentId":1884871,"authorDomain":"jimdent"}
Nasophilia must be more rampant than we thought, huh? ;)
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1884898,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1885072,"authorDomain":"DrGrannie"}
Hillary Clinton is still stiffing vendors in Ohio, and story today about stiffing vendors in New York. She should start working for the working people by paying her bills.
Now she wants to be VP, and MSNBC is saying that news will be the headline tonight - not Obama's historic win. If that's how they run it, I'll change the channel.
Pundits and superdelegates are coddling her - allowing this to be "her night" so she can have a nice party.
And we're told she doesn't feel entitled ?????
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- 1 vote
#16 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:42 PM EDT{"commentId":1885080,"authorDomain":"webquack"}
Is the 57 states crack going to be the new overused "Algore invented the internet" type BS for the next 4 yrs ? How clever......geez.
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- 1 vote
#17 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:43 PM EDT{"commentId":1885187,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1885169,"authorDomain":"cpaul44"}
Obama and his campaign team are to be congratulated for clinching their party's nomination. Congratulations also to Hillary for a well fought battle which at times made political watchers cringe. What has emerged is that the Obama team has brought new paradigms to the science of political campaigns. These new approaches will now be used by politicians and leaders in all areas. The Obama campaign team's victory was hard fought and sometimes uncertain. He had been bombarded with many difficult attacks, accusations and challenges from the Right Wing Media,Right Wing Politicians and even within the ranks of his Party. He fought them all, and won the Nomination battle, a credit to him and his team. But there is the bigger challenge.The War that will be waged by the Republicans, the Right Wing and the Racists. Also most important,the majority of uninformed and fearful voters whom many times in history stand between Change and The Same. There is no doubt that an efficient General Election campaign will be waged by Obama, but there are two critical issues that are major deciders for voters. The first is PROPER AND EFFECTIVE INFORMATION TO VOTERS and secondly his leading team members which the voters need to know during the General Election campaign. Such as Vice President( a woman may be critical) and other top positions . He must look at the issue of Women,Youth, Hispanics,Whites, African Americans, Asians, Reagan Democrats and Republicans. His team for Change must be presented to voters as all inclusive and committed to bringing Peace, Justice and Economic Development to All Americans. Again we need to congratulate both Obama and Hillary for growing the Democratic Party, despite a long gruelling and bitter campaign of both positives and negatives. One hopes that Hillary will accept and play a leading role in the battle for Change against MC Cain and the Republican Right.
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- 2 votes
#18 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:56 PM EDT{"commentId":1885262,"authorDomain":"SuperUnspecial"}
I like how they call New Hampshire an upset for Clinton. Some how they're able to convince themselves that if the person who had been leading in the polls for about a year wins is an upset because a couple of polls showed it even for a day and every blow hard was blowing hard.
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- 1 vote
#19 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:12 PM EDT{"commentId":1885320,"authorDomain":"spankymcgoo"}
Anyone but me pleased that we're not faced with a choice between Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani? If anyone remembers where we were a year ago, that was the choice we were faced with, according to the pundits.
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#20 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 6:22 PM EDT{"commentId":1885639,"authorDomain":"itripn"}
"...yet exposed deep racial and gender divisions within the party."
Party? You mean Country, yes?
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- 1 vote
#21 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 7:20 PM EDT{"commentId":1886621,"authorDomain":"Strath3303"}
The long bataan death march for the Democratic nomination is over!
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- 1 vote
#22 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:18 PM EDT{"commentId":1887455,"authorDomain":"loveproduction"}
To Hillary Supporters.
I understand that this is a hard time and a hard thing to except Obama as the nominee, but we have to acknowledge that he won fair and square. I was a Hillary supporter but I have to say that I am very very very disappointed in her reactions tonight. She spoke more about herself than trying to unite the party, then to continue to divide the party more by setting up a protest on her website, just disgusted me. It's not about her, it's about our country. I felt Obama was very gracious and respectful to her, but tonight she has shown me that it's just about winning and she truly is a sore loser.
I am now glad to call myself an Obama supporter. He has really ran a better race, with all the odds against him. So we have to take a good look at that, she is 20 million dollars in debt, she was the front runner, she had the great name with a strong reputation and she lost all of that because she didn't run a strong enough campaign. Obama will be a great president and he will have my support.
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- 1 vote
#23 - Wed Jun 4, 2008 12:00 AM EDT{"commentId":1889871,"authorDomain":"cartoonmohammed"}
{"commentId":1895144,"authorDomain":"nomoalo"}
Jury: Rezko guilty in corruption case
Prominent political fundraiser was accused of scheming to get bribes
CHICAGO - A federal jury has found a prominent political fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama and Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich guilty of 16 of 24 counts in his corruption trial.Antoin "Tony" Rezko was accused of scheming to get bribes from businesses seeking state contracts.
The jury delivered its verdict Wednesday after a nine-week trial.
Rezko has known Obama since he entered politics and was involved in a 2005 real estate deal with the Democratic presidential candidate, although testimony barely touched on their relationship. Most of the focus was on shakedowns prosecutors say Rezko arranged when he was a top adviser to Blagojevich.
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#24 - Wed Jun 4, 2008 6:19 PM EDT{"commentId":1895239,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}
That's nice, perhaps you should seed that article instead of copy and pasting it into your comment.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1895506,"authorDomain":"NewsNerd"}
Lol, listen to Scott's advice.
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":1895632,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}
great... and Obama was not linked to the corruption in any way. Bush knows a lot of criminals but most conservatives and republicans voted for him twice.
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- 2 votes
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