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George Carlin mourned as counterculture hero

Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:52 AM EDT
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Keith St. Clair, Associated Press Writer
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In a March 2, 2002, file photo George Carlin finishes his act with a flourish after receiving a Free Speech award at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colo. A publicist for George Carlin says the legendary comedian has died of heart failure at a hospital in Santa Monica, Calif., Sunday June 22, 2008. (AP Photo/E. Pablo Kosmicki,File)

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LOS ANGELES — Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television. Some People Are Stupid. Stuff. People I Can Do Without.

George Carlin, who died Sunday at 71, leaves behind not only a series of memorable routines, but a legal legacy: His most celebrated monologue, a frantic, informed riff on those infamous seven words, led to a Supreme Court decision on broadcasting offensive language.

The counterculture hero's jokes also targeted things such as misplaced shame, religious hypocrisy and linguistic quirks — why, he once asked, do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?

Carlin, who had a history of heart trouble, went into St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica on Sunday afternoon complaining of chest pain and died of heart failure later that evening, said his publicist, Jeff Abraham. He had performed as recently as last weekend at the Orleans Casino and Hotel in Las Vegas.

"He was a genius and I will miss him dearly," Jack Burns, who was the other half of a comedy duo with Carlin in the early 1960s, told The Associated Press.

The actor Ben Stiller called Carlin "a hugely influential force in stand-up comedy. He had an amazing mind, and his humor was brave, and always challenging us to look at ourselves and question our belief systems, while being incredibly entertaining. He was one of the greats."

Carlin constantly breached the accepted boundaries of comedy and language, particularly with his routine on the "Seven Words" — all of which are taboo on broadcast TV to this day.

When he uttered all seven at a show in Milwaukee in 1972, he was arrested on charges of disturbing the peace, freed on $150 bail and exonerated when a Wisconsin judge dismissed the case, saying it was indecent but citing free speech and the lack of any disturbance.

The words were later played on a New York radio station, resulting in a 1978 Supreme Court ruling upholding the government's authority to sanction stations for broadcasting offensive language during hours when children might be listening.

"So my name is a footnote in American legal history, which I'm perversely kind of proud of," he told The Associated Press earlier this year.

Despite his reputation as unapologetically irreverent, Carlin was a television staple through the decades, serving as host of the "Saturday Night Live" debut in 1975 — noting on his Web site that he was "loaded on cocaine all week long" — and appearing some 130 times on "The Tonight Show."

He produced 23 comedy albums, 14 HBO specials, three books, a few TV shows and appeared in several movies, from his own comedy specials to "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" in 1989 — a testament to his range from cerebral satire and cultural commentary to downright silliness (sometimes hitting all points in one stroke).

"Why do they lock gas station bathrooms?" he once mused. "Are they afraid someone will clean them?"

In one of his most famous routines, Carlin railed against euphemisms he said have become so widespread that no one can simply "die."

"'Older' sounds a little better than 'old,' doesn't it?," he said. "Sounds like it might even last a little longer. ... I'm getting old. And it's OK. Because thanks to our fear of death in this country I won't have to die — I'll 'pass away.' Or I'll 'expire,' like a magazine subscription. If it happens in the hospital they'll call it a 'terminal episode.' The insurance company will refer to it as 'negative patient care outcome.' And if it's the result of malpractice they'll say it was a 'therapeutic misadventure.'"

Carlin won four Grammy Awards for best spoken comedy album and was nominated for five Emmys. On Tuesday, it was announced that Carlin was being awarded the 11th annual Mark Twain Prize for American Humor, which will be presented Nov. 10 in Washington and broadcast on PBS.

"Nobody was funnier than George Carlin," said Judd Apatow, director of recent hit comedies such as "Knocked Up" and "The 40-Year-Old Virgin." "I spent half my childhood in my room listening to his records experiencing pure joy. And he was as kind as he was funny."

Carlin started his career on the traditional nightclub circuit in a coat and tie, pairing with Burns to spoof TV game shows, news and movies. Perhaps in spite of the outlaw soul, "George was fairly conservative when I met him," said Burns, describing himself as the more left-leaning of the two. It was a degree of separation that would reverse when they came upon Lenny Bruce, the original shock comic, in the 1960s.

"We were working in Chicago, and we went to see Lenny, and we were both blown away," Burns said, recalling the moment as the beginning of the end for their collaboration (though not their close friendship). "It was an epiphany for George. The comedy we were doing at the time wasn't exactly groundbreaking, and George knew then that he wanted to go in a different direction."

That direction would make Carlin as much a social commentator and philosopher as comedian, a position he would relish through the years.

"The whole problem with this idea of obscenity and indecency, and all of these things — bad language and whatever — it's all caused by one basic thing, and that is: religious superstition," Carlin told the AP in a 2004 interview. "There's an idea that the human body is somehow evil and bad and there are parts of it that are especially evil and bad, and we should be ashamed. Fear, guilt and shame are built into the attitude toward sex and the body. ... It's reflected in these prohibitions and these taboos that we have."

Carlin was born on May 12, 1937, and grew up in the Morningside Heights section of Manhattan, raised by a single mother. After dropping out of school in the ninth grade, he joined the Air Force in 1954. According to his official Web site, which is often tongue-in-cheek, he received three court-martials and numerous disciplinary punishments.

While in the Air Force he started working as an off-base disc jockey at a radio station in Shreveport, La., and after receiving a general discharge in 1957, took an announcing job at WEZE in Boston.

"Fired after three months for driving mobile news van to New York to buy pot," his Web site says.

From there he went on to a job on the night shift as a deejay at a radio station in Fort Worth, Texas. Carlin also worked variety of temporary jobs, including carnival organist and marketing director for a peanut brittle.

In 1960, he left with $300 and Burns, a Texas radio buddy, for Hollywood to pursue a nightclub career as comedy team Burns & Carlin. His first break came just months later when the duo appeared on Jack Paar's "Tonight Show."

Carlin said he hoped to emulate his childhood hero, Danny Kaye, the kindly, rubber-faced comedian who ruled over the decade Carlin grew up in — the 1950s — with a clever but gentle humor reflective of the times.

It didn't work for him, and the pair broke up by 1962.

"I was doing superficial comedy entertaining people who didn't really care: Businessmen, people in nightclubs, conservative people. And I had been doing that for the better part of 10 years when it finally dawned on me that I was in the wrong place doing the wrong things for the wrong people," Carlin reflected recently as he prepared for his 14th HBO special, "It's Bad For Ya."

Eventually Carlin ditched the buttoned-up look for his trademark beard, ponytail and all-black attire.

But even with his decidedly adult-comedy bent, Carlin never lost his childlike sense of mischief, even voicing kid-friendly projects like episodes of the TV show "Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends" and the spacey Volkswagen bus Fillmore in the 2006 Pixar hit "Cars."

Carlin's first wife, Brenda, died in 1997. Survivors include his wife Sally Wade, his daughter, Kelly Carlin McCall, and his brother, Patrick Carlin.

___

Associated Press writer Christopher Weber contributed to this report.

© 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Billman

That sucks

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  • 16 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:14 AM EDT
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quixiotic

those were the exact words I uttered.

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  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:48 AM EDT
{"commentId":2027640,"authorDomain":"Henryvii"}
Henry VII

Mine were, "Oh... @!$%#."

The world has lost a great entertainer.

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  • 17 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:54 AM EDT
{"commentId":2027659,"authorDomain":"quixiotic"}
quixiotic

For real Henry, comedy just wont be the same, but I guess the world's going to need to find something to fill the hole of 7 Things You Can't Say on TV.

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  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:02 AM EDT
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Robert Blevins - AB of Seattle

He made great fun out of all kinds of stuff, including the 'butter warmer'. That was the device you kept your butter in while it was in the 'fridge.

Kept the butter soft for you. He will be missed, but at least there's the albums to listen to, and Carlin would like that, I think.

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  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:40 AM EDT
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quixiotic

I just had a co-worker ask me "who is George Carlin?" I am a sad panda right now.

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  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:00 AM EDT
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JustinPM

The FCC should have a day where the 7 dirty words are revoked, just to see what it would cause. In memory of George.

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  • 10 votes
#1.6 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:35 AM EDT
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RebelGirl

He was amazing at pointing out the obvious that others would miss, for making you see the world through his eyes and having it make complete and utter sense.

Here's to making me laugh so hard I cried.

RIP George

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  • 13 votes
#1.7 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:33 AM EDT
{"commentId":2028323,"authorDomain":"keggerlord-1"}
Jay Keggerlord

Wow. I'm at a loss for words. The man was an amazing entertainer. I'll probably have to reflect more on his early and middle-years work, as his material became to bitter for me to bear in his later years. Still, he's always had an amazing wit and a sharp rebuke for all things political, pastoral and pontificating. He was one of the last great entertainers.

I hope Saint Peter greets him at the gate withL "George! You mother@!$%#er! Get your ass in here!"

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  • 11 votes
#1.8 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:37 AM EDT
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CurtisLow

RIP

Funny yet right to the point of it all. He will be missed.

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  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:01 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2042738,"authorDomain":"djmorse1"}
justice be served

Never liked him, thought he was just a dirty old raunchy man living in the gutter. I understand many dont agree with my views then again who cares this is my opinion.
Could never figure out why this was even newsworthy

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    #1.11 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:30 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2043955,"authorDomain":"darkside"}
    Mykola Bilokonsky

    Probably because a great many of us associate him with incisive insights with respect to identity and the relationship between the self and society. His comedy routines were damn near philosophical.

    Sorry if it didn't do anything for you, you're missing out.

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    • 2 votes
    #1.12 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:44 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2052121,"authorDomain":"belarius"}
    Belarius

    Could never figure out why this was even newsworthy

    Even setting your philosophical differences with Carlin (which are understandable: he was unapologetic about being offensive), it's crucial to remember that he was also an incredibly skilled performer who never leaned on his past jokes. While his shows had a common tone, the jokes themselves were still consistently new, and he continued to come out with new material for his entire 50-year career. Any comedian can tell you that producing so much new material so consistently (and having it so steadily entertain your audiences) is extremely difficult. Only a very small number of stand-up comedians have ever been so prolific, and none for such a marathon career. Seinfeld said it best: no matter what the joke was, Carlin has already done it.

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    • 2 votes
    #1.13 - Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:50 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":2027311,"authorDomain":"darkside"}
    Mykola Bilokonsky

    Man, he was a real force in our culture. That's a real loss.

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    • 21 votes
    Reply#2 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:18 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2031371,"authorDomain":"Prilj"}
    Prilj

    Yes he was.

    I feel like the world just became a little bit worse now that he's gone.

    We've all lost one of the rare comedy geniuses of the world.

    RIP George Carlin.

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    • 3 votes
    #2.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2027349,"authorDomain":"mikerupert"}
    Mike Rupert

    Greatest comedian ever.

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    • 6 votes
    Reply#3 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:25 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027385,"authorDomain":"Billman"}
    Billman

    Well ten minutes later I'm still sitting here in a slight state of shock.

    I don't normally feel much emotion when some random "famous" person dies, but Carlin was an Icon.
    I never met him and never saw him live, but his viewpoints on society shaped my own now that I give it some thought.

    I don't ever recall thinking, "that's funny, but i don't agree with you on that George." I'm sure that in his decades of performing there is probably something he's addressed that I would disagree with, but I respected the hell outa this guy.

    His ability to express his No Bull@!$%# attitude and intolerance for ignorance was magnificent.

    He is also the same age as my father which makes me uncomfortably aware of my dad's mortality.

    Well I'm depressed now...
    I think I'll go to bed.

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    • 22 votes
    Reply#4 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:32 AM EDT
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    mtpromises

    I took my mother to see him in vegas a few years ago....mom doesn't use foul language very much so i warned her...we both laughed until we cried. In fact, I'm crying right now--he will be missed! He said things that were very serious and important in a funny way.

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    • 3 votes
    #4.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2029196,"authorDomain":"KyanaBelle"}
    KyanaBelle

    Same here Billman. I'm just kind of in shock. I always considered him one of our generation. I didn't realize until today that he is a year older than my dad.

    As he aged he seemed to go from rebel to rebellious curmudgeon. His role as the grandfather in "Jersey Girl" was the one bright spot in that movie and I was very impressed with his acting range after seeing him in that.

    I recall when my kids were young, setting up an internet guardian type program on my computer. One of the options to monitor for and restrict access to was listed on the program options as "The Carlin Seven". I knew immediately what that was, but had to give my sons a little cultural education about what it meant and who Carlin was. Both later would later become huge fans themselves.

    I worked with a CNA whose son had been in a horribly disfiguring car accident at some time before I met her: Mind you, everything I know about this is second-hand from her but this was the type of person that you would just find it impossible to believe would make something like this up. Carlin had been in the area performing and some how heard about the wreck. The kid was only 16 or 17 at the time and was going to be in the hospital for a very long haul. He was way too disfigured for plastic surgery to help much. Carlin visited him at the hospital and established an ongoing friendship with him and his mother. The kid had Carlin's number and Carlin would call to check on him daily while he was in the hospital to encourage him and his mother and later, on a regular basis every time he rolled through town just to check up on his progress and if he needed anything. He even arranged for the kid's hero, Hank Jr, who had also had a disfiguring accident, to visit him. This CNA was a much older lady and very conservative, but she said that she didn't believe she would meet a more kind hearted human being in her life time.

    RIP, Carlin...

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    • 4 votes
    #4.2 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":2027477,"authorDomain":"protoolrobot"}
    protoolrobot

    RIP George. Thank you for some great memories of my youth.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:50 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027523,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}
    winsomecowboy

    I'm glad he stomached reality for as long as he did and gave so much of himself while encouraging others to think for themselves. He was funny in part because no-one was safe when he spoke. He embodied the idea that work is love made visable.

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    • 17 votes
    Reply#6 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:05 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027551,"authorDomain":"adambecker"}
    Adam Becker

    encouraging others to think for themselves

    This is why I will remember him. He was damn funny, but so are a lot of people. He was funny while challenging people to look at things differently and be individuals. He was awesome.

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    • 13 votes
    #6.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:13 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":2027526,"authorDomain":"belarius"}
    Belarius

    Let us remember him through his works.

    That is all.

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    • 8 votes
    Reply#7 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:06 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027636,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}
    winsomecowboy

    profound response there Belarius. No-one expresses George better than George.

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    • 8 votes
    #7.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:51 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027841,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
    Dennis P. McCannDeleted
    {"commentId":2039332,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
    Pamela Drew

    No-one expresses George better than George.

    By George, he's got it!

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    • 1 vote
    #7.3 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2027542,"authorDomain":"dj-bounce78"}
    bounce78

    this news ruined will ruin my entire week, had been lucky to see him in person once, and evey standup on tape,tv that's available. One of the best ever ... we will miss you RIP

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#8 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:11 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027558,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}
    Brad Leclerc

    Damn. George Carlin was great. It'll be Carlin movie marathon at my place today.

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    • 4 votes
    Reply#9 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:16 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027564,"authorDomain":"tom-20"}
    tao-343552

    damn shame... from giggling as a kid to the 7 words (and still knowing them by heart) to his political views... what an influence on anyone with a brain... i was ready to write him in for president this year... i searched the Internet for something recently and found something called Zeitgeistmovie.com... after watching that then listening to one of George's latest HBO specials and hearing him say "because the men that own this country" i realized he had really come to grasp what it's all about... his passing is a greater loss than i think most realize... i think it is so important that George's knowledge be passed on to all... he made us laugh but better yet... he made us think... i don't know what he'd say if he could have given us an encore... but i can only say is go back and listen to his material when u need a laugh and also when u need some insight into this wild crazy world... he wasn't perfect, who among us is... but damn i wish i had the knowledge he had... and i'm sure every comedian wishes they could deliver material the way he did... i was just going to say a great loss for mankind... BUT why not think positive... for just the fact that we're all writing and remembering him... what a great asset it was to have him for the years we had him on the planet... my world is a better place because of him... i hope most people can feel that way... i'm sure the people that own this country are glad that he's gone... if they don't start the suicide channel... maybe we can at least have the george carlin channel... we can all keep laughing and never stop thinking...

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#10 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:20 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027586,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}
    Dennis P. McCannDeleted
    {"commentId":2027592,"authorDomain":"HiredGun"}
    JimboBillyBob Justice

    Man....The First Respondant said it all.
    "That Sux"
    If I knew I would not get repremanded by Newsvine I'd say the "7-Words" now as a tribute to George.
    George woulda made one hell of a President
    =)

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    • 5 votes
    Reply#12 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:32 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027595,"authorDomain":"vivacions"}
    Vivacions

    Oh George, I just thought you were old. I never knew you'd actually die.

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    • 4 votes
    Reply#13 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:34 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027642,"authorDomain":"MaMyof4"}
    MaMyof4

    Just heard that Britney's baby sister gave birth. A birth, a death... imagining what George would have said about the irony of the timing.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#14 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:54 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027796,"authorDomain":"bnowhere"}
    bFranco

    The world was a better place with someone like George Carlin around, reminding us how full of ourselves we are and rapidly putting us in our place for it.

    This is a sad day indeed. :(

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    • 4 votes
    Reply#15 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:20 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027884,"authorDomain":"killfile"}
    Killfile

    Why, why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you woudln't want to @!$%# in the first place?

    We'll miss you George. Here's hoping God has a sense of humor... particularly if the Catholics are right.

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    • 9 votes
    Reply#16 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:09 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2028653,"authorDomain":"caroaber"}
    caroaber

    If?

    Rest in peace, George. Where would Denis Leary be without you?

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    • 3 votes
    #16.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:47 AM EDT
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    Dan Hallo, aka, Zoilus

    The genius of his works are immortal, and he will live forever in our memories. Good By George, and thank you, for the great show.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#17 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:30 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027943,"authorDomain":"joanrolling"}
    joanrolling

    Just watched it Thanks for that link.

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#18 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:39 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027961,"authorDomain":"PurelyPolitical"}
    Bodhi1

    Man, this sucks. We all knew it was coming, but it still sucks. I have watched George since before High School (thank you HBO). I'll miss him. RIP George.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#19 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:48 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027979,"authorDomain":"benstraight"}
    Benjamin Straight

    What a horrible shame. A legend has passed.

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#20 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:53 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2027985,"authorDomain":"replytoj001"}
    replytoj001

    I feel as if I have lost my kooky, lovable, kind hearted, political "they are all crooks and idiots", slip ya a $5 dollar bill when your mom wasn't looking, give ya a hug when you needed it.........uncle.

    I remember The Flip Wilson show and watching George Carlin perform, he was great then and has gotten so much better over the years,....aging like a never empty glass of fine wine and enjoyed with every meal.......

    His use of, and knowledge of, words was educational and thought provoking.

    Thank you Mr. Carlin for all the smiles and laughter over the last years, your wit and wisdom will be missed.....

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    • 8 votes
    Reply#21 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:56 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2028011,"authorDomain":"ScubaDog"}
    ScubaDog

    Right now I am something George never was "at a loss for words".

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    • 3 votes
    Reply#22 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:07 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2028048,"authorDomain":"greenpagan"}
    greenpagan

    Religion

    Although raised in the Roman Catholic faith, Carlin often denounced the idea of God in interviews and performances, most notably with his "Invisible Man in the Sky" and "There Is No God" routines. In mockery, he invented the parody religion Frisbeetarianism for a newspaper contest. He defined it as the belief that when a person dies "his soul gets flung onto a roof, and just stays there", and cannot be retrieved.

    Carlin also joked that he worshipped the Sun, because he could actually see it, but prayed to Joe Pesci (a good friend of his in real life) because "he's a good actor", and "looks like a guy who can get things done!"[39]

    Carlin also introduced the "Two Commandments", a revised "pocket-sized" list of the Ten Commandments in his HBO special Complaints and Grievances, ending with the additional commandment of "Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself."[40]

    Here for the show

    Carlin openly communicated in his shows and in his interviews that his purpose for existence was entertainment, that he was "here for the show". He professed a hearty schadenfreude in watching the rich spectrum of humanity slowly self-destruct, in his estimation, of its own design; saying, "When you're born, you get a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you get a front-row seat." He acknowledged that this is a very selfish thing, especially since he included large human catastrophes as entertainment.

    In a late-1990s interview with radio talk show host Art Bell, he remarked about his view of human life: "I think we're already 'circling the drain' as a species, and I'd love to see the circles get a little faster and a little shorter."

    In the same interview, he recounted his experience of a California earthquake in the early-1970s as: "...an amusement park ride. Really, I mean it's such a wonderful thing to realize that you have absolutely no control... and to see the dresser move across the bedroom floor unassisted... is just exciting." Later he summarized: "I really think there's great human drama in destruction and nature unleashed and I don't get enough of it."

    A routine in Carlin's 1999 HBO special You Are All Diseased focusing on airport security leads up to the statement: "Take a @!$%#ing chance! Put a little fun in your life! ... most Americans are soft and frightened and unimaginative and they don't realize there's such a thing as dangerous fun, and they certainly don't recognize a good show when they see one."

    Carlin had always included politics as part of his material (along with the wordplay and sex jokes), but by the mid-1980s had become a strident social critic, in both his HBO specials and the book compilations of his material. His HBO viewers got an especially sharp taste of this in his take on the Ronald Reagan administration during the 1988 special What Am I Doing In New Jersey? broadcast live from the Park Theatre in Union City, New Jersey.

    Themes

    Carlin's themes have been known for causing considerable controversy in the general media. His most usual topic was (in his words) humanity's "bull@!$%#", which might include murder, genocide, war, rape, corruption, religion and other aspects of human civilization. His delivery frequently treated these subjects in a misanthropic and nihilistic fashion, such as in his statement during the Life is Worth Losing show: "I look at it this way... For centuries now, man has done everything he can to destroy, defile, and interfere with nature: clear-cutting forests, strip-mining mountains, poisoning the atmosphere, over-fishing the oceans, polluting the rivers and lakes, destroying wetlands and aquifers... so when nature strikes back, and smacks him on the head and kicks him in the nuts, I enjoy that. I have absolutely no sympathy for human beings whatsoever. None. And no matter what kind of problem humans are facing, whether it's natural or man-made, I always hope it gets worse."

    [ Source: Wikipedia .]

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    • 10 votes
    Reply#23 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:25 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2028271,"authorDomain":"emaslak"}
    OhioEd

    OK George, You can stop this right now! It's not funny..

    What a loss... the man was pure genius...

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      Reply#24 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:24 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2028284,"authorDomain":"huntanpeck"}
      Huntan Peck

      I just read the news of George Carlin's death, and it's hard to put into words how sad I feel right now. George Carlin was more than a mere entertainer, more than just a comedian. He was a great advocate for free speech and an exceptionally sharp commentator on American life and society. In any one of his monologues, there was usually more truth to be found than in any speech given by a politician or minister. In this age when politicians lies are tolerated and even accepted as 'just the way it is', when war = peace and consumerism = patriotism, who can we rely on to lay it on the line and tell it like it is? George Carlin was such a one. His talent for creating controversy, by exposing the stupidities of war, censorship, corruption, politics, religion and nearly every other aspect of society, has rarely, if ever, been matched. In these perilous times, someone like George Carlin is needed more than ever. Someone who can stand up and cut through the double-talk and stupidity that regularly spews out from our media outlets. And someone who can, at least, hold a mirror up to us and make us laugh at ourselves.

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      • 8 votes
      Reply#25 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:27 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2031337,"authorDomain":"savingideas"}
      miser

      "...when war = peace and consumerism = patriotism, who can we rely on to lay it on the line and tell it like it is? George Carlin was such a one...."

      we need more people not afraid to stand up and tell it like it is

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      • 3 votes
      #25.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2028298,"authorDomain":"killfile"}
      Killfile

      I found a YouTube obituary of Mr Carlin that I've seeded over here. If you're unfamiliar with his work or just want to laugh this Monday morning, have a look.

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      • 1 vote
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