Fewer students pursue computer-related degrees

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WEST DES MOINES — Fewer college students are pursuing computer-related degrees at a time when demand is increasing and thousands of baby boomers are retiring from technical jobs.

The colliding trends have some business leaders worried that they won't find enough workers needed to maintain expected growth.

"There's a bit of a perfect storm going on," said Katherine Spencer Lee, executive director of Robert Half Technology, a California-based consulting and staffing service. "I do think it's serious and I do think we need to start at the elementary school level and get students talking about math and science."

Although a dearth of tech workers has been a problem before, the situation is now more dire because of soaring demand by a wide range of businesses, from tech companies like Microsoft to insurance companies and local hospitals.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, 854,000 professional IT jobs will be added between 2006 and 2016, an increase of about 24 percent. When replacement jobs are added in, total IT job openings in the 10-year period is estimated at 1.6 million.

The bureau estimates that one in 19 new jobs created in the 10-year period will be professional IT positions.

"The fact remains that technology permeates all businesses now," said Lou Gellos, a spokesman for Microsoft Corp. "All companies have that person down the hall to help with computer issues."

Amid the growing demand, the number of students entering computer sciences and computer engineering fields at major universities is dropping.

The Computing Research Association's annual survey of universities with Ph.D.-granting programs found a 20 percent drop this year in students completing bachelors degrees in professional IT fields, continuing a trend seen for several years.

Enrollment in undergraduate degree programs in computer sciences is more than 50 percent lower than it was five years ago, the group said. Between 2005-2006 and 2006-2007 the number of new students declaring computer sciences as a major fell 43 percent to 8,021.

"We're definitely concerned around the fact that there's a talent shortage," said Cindy Nicola, vice president of talent acquisition for Electronic Arts Inc., a Redwood City, Calif.-based video game maker of "Madden NFL" and "The Sims."

In response to the problem, Nicola said the company has begun working more with colleges to aggressively recruit graduates, offer internships and help schools shape curriculum so graduates are better able to step immediately into jobs at the business.

The company offers up to 400 hands-on internships a year as well as perks like fitness centers, on-campus coffee shops, dry cleaning, dental services, haircuts, message therapists and game rooms. As a video game maker, it also has the advantage of being in a field that is appealing to many young graduates.

Still, Nicola said the top computer sciences engineers she's interviewed have at least five offers upon graduation and the competition for them is fierce.

Gellos said among the students earning bachelor's degrees in Washington state, only 14 percent are graduating with the skills the company needs.

"So that means for Microsoft at its home area in Redmond, Wash., 14 percent isn't going to cut it when it comes to the kinds of people we want to hire to work here, so we have to look in other places," he said.

Rockwell Collins Inc., a Cedar Rapids, Iowa-based maker of avionics, global positioning system and other electronic equipment for airline manufacturers, employs about 6,500 engineers and technical workers among its global work force of 20,000.

CEO Clay Jones said a shortage of those workers restrains growth and can damage customers relationships if projects are delayed.

"When you look at the relative availability of those people in the nation, we believe they're going to continue to be in demand and ultimately in short supply in the next three to five years," Jones said.

The company is reviewing salary and benefits and looking at the work environment, leadership development and diversity initiatives.

Rockwell Collins also is sending mentors into classrooms to work on robotics and rocketry projects in hopes of getting the students interested in future technology careers. Their efforts are part of a larger statewide program coordinated by the Technology Association of Iowa.

The Des Moines-based nonprofit organization recently rolled out a pilot program called HyperStream, a career awareness project aimed at students in grades 8-12.

"We've created a presentation that counters the misperceptions that are out there," said Leann Jacobson, the group's president. "Misperceptions that careers in technology are geeky and not cool, that this is a field that only guys go into."

Microsoft has begun working with teachers to hold annual math camps and has launched programs such as DigiGirlz High Tech Camps, designed to provide girls in the ninth to 12th grades a better understanding of technology careers. Girls listen to executive speakers, participate in technology tours and demonstrations, network, and learn with hands-on experience in workshops.

Microsoft has also lobbied state lawmakers to boost math requirements in schools and has promoted a Math Matters program to raise awareness in schools about raising the level of math understanding.

"Before this year students only needed to complete two years of math in high school," Gellos said. "The technology era has changed everything and that's not going to cut it for students today."

Professor Shankar Sastry, the dean of the College of Engineering at the University of California at Berkeley, said he has seen an uptick in the number of undergraduate applications in computer engineering in the past year. However, the university is enrolling no more students because of inadequate laboratory space and facilities to teach more.

He advocates a public/private partnership with major IT employers to provide the funding needed for a 10 percent increase in the number of students at 10 campuses in the UC system. The California labor secretary has estimated that there will be a shortage of 25,000 technical workers in that state in the next seven years, and Sastry said such a partnership would solve about half of that problem.

"I think that if the CEOs of these major companies were to strike a partnership with the governor — and the governor has actually welcomed it — we would be able to create a fund to fuel the growth and this would be a win-win situation," Sastry said.

Failure to provide facilities to teach more students will only contribute to the shortage of IT workers, he said.

"The students will go someplace else and the companies will be left holding the bag," he said. "I think it's pretty time sensitive."

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On the Net: Computing Research Association: http://www.cra.org

Technology Association of Iowa: http://www.technologyiowa.org

Rockwell Collins Inc.: http://www.rockwellcollins.com

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{"commentId":2028275,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

try this tech companies... take on new college grads and train them. The hardest part of a tech career is breaking in because companies what experienced personnel only. There is very little investment in the future like in other professional industries.

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Reply#1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:25 AM EDT
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I've covered this topic extensively on my Blog and believe a lot of it is down to there being too much choice in universities today, with only top universities in the UK actually covering worthwhile topics in the CS curriculum. The result of this amount of choice is that degree programme structures will become diluted and lack the substance a student wants from a degree. To react to this universities are making courses easier and diluting them even more, which is definitely the wrong way to go about it. I want my degree to be extremely challenging to the point where I can walk out and be confident in any field I wish to enter. My current CS degree is prepping me for AI and an inferiority complex from lack of programming, maths and software engineering.

Contents of a Computer Science Degree

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Reply#2 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:00 AM EDT
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I used to teach graduate-level IT courses at a US university, I don't any more because the number of students has dropped so dramatically. Now these are business-IT students, not theoretical Computer Science people, I can't speak for them.

However, for the group of students I was involved with, they are dropping out because they don't think there will be any jobs for them when they graduate. They look at all the development jobs moving to India and Vietnam, and they look at the platoons of Indian programmers dumping into the street from the headquarters companies here (e.g. Target), and they just feel there will be no jobs for US developers. So, they switch to Finance or something else.

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Reply#3 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:13 AM EDT
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I can't speak for Americans but at my local university a number of recent CS graduates have been swamped by job prospects. All we hear about is doom and gloom and how India is taking all of the jobs, but as the amount of CS students drop I guess we still end up with enough jobs. I've even received job offers during my first year of university for Web Development work! What the world seems to be lacking now is theoretical CS and somewhere along the line a university is going to realise this, create a pure CS degree and become successful from it.

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#3.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
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"I do think it's serious and I do think we need to start at the elementary school level and get students talking about math and science."

I agree completely with this statement. I feel a lot of people either declare and the drop a CS major, or don't declare at all, because they are put off by the Math and Science reqs.

And introduce programming earlier too. My high school didn't even offer a programming class when I was there (graduated in '03- they do now I believe).

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Reply#4 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:45 AM EDT
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I wonder if any of it has to do with people getting certs instead of degrees.

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Reply#5 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:25 AM EDT
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No.

More and more, companies are wanting degreed professionals. There is a huge difference , in the aggregate, between the thought process of those with a degree and those without one. I know there are individual exceptions, but companies deal with too many people to look at the exceptions.

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    #5.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:13 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2030191,"authorDomain":"hemphill"}

    They should also consider that computer technology is one field where a college degree can be detrimental. When we hire I look at the resume's without a degree much more thoroughly, as someone with a real aptitude for computers is more likely to try without the degree.

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    Reply#6 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2030236,"authorDomain":"fdbryant3"}

    Do you look for certs?

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    #6.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2030301,"authorDomain":"behindmyscreen"}

    There are some companies, small ones especially, that do give every applicant a fair shake. My friend is a developer at a small company and he is the only degreed programmer on staff.

    Just to contrast the difference, his mathematical and theoretical background saved a lot of money. some of the devs on his team were trying to create a method that would analyse a picture and correct its orientation. They were brute forcing it and making a giant mess of code, he looked at the problem and told them that if they used some statistics, they could write a very efficient and clean method. They did not believe him so he whipped it up and showed them that he could get better accuracy and faster processing using his code than they could with their mass of garbage.

    That is the difference between degreed professionals and non degreed ones, the depth of knowledge in Computer Science as well as complimentery areas of study allows them to come up with better solutions.

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    #6.2 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:20 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2031644,"authorDomain":"hemphill"}

    True the breadth of knowledge is nice, but some of the unlearning can be brutal. Trying to get a person to see that 'object-oriented' is not always a plus can be tremendously tedious.

    We view certs much like degrees, someone paid money to have someone else speak to their competence.

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      #6.3 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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      A cert is definitely like that, but a Degree (a B.S. not an A.S.) is much more than speaking to competencies. There are people that are right for a job and there are people who are not. If your prospect thinks "OO for All" then don't hire him. Most good programs teach agnostic developing skills and simply show the students the different ways to achieve their goals for a project under different paradigms. Programming Languages is usually the class that focuses the most on this, teaching problem solving skills for Imperative, and functional methods, using OO techniques and procedural techniques.

      The bad programs are the ones that focus on a language and build theory from there. In that case you end up with an idiot who will create 100 lines of code in java when 5 in a perl script was all that was required to get the job done.

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