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Biden speaks — and speaks — his own mind

Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:51 AM EDT
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Calvin Woodward , Associated Press
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<p>Democratic presidential hopefuls Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., left, laughs with Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., before the start of a presidential forum hosted by the AFL-CIO at Soldier Field in Chicago, in this Tuesday, Aug. 7, 2007 file photo. Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware is Barack Obama's pick as vice presidential running mate, The Associated Press has learned Saturday Aug. 23, 2008. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast, FILE)</p>

Democratic presidential hopefuls Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., left, laughs with Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., before the start of a presidential forum hosted by the AFL-CIO at Soldier Field in Chicago, in this Tuesday, Aug. 7, 2007 file photo. Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware is Barack Obama's pick as vice presidential running mate, The Associated Press has learned Saturday Aug. 23, 2008. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast, FILE)

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— Barack Obama told everyone he wanted a running mate who will challenge his thinking, and now he's got one. Joe Biden's tendency to speak his own mind — and speak and speak — is entwined in his DNA.

The loquacious Delaware senator brings more than verbiage to Obama's side. Biden is a foreign policy heavyweight with a decade longer in the Senate than the seasoned Republican presidential candidate, John McCain. That's almost three more decades of experience than his new boss.

In Washington, Biden, 65, is known as a collegial figure even when he's competitive — one who can spin flowery praise one moment and biting fulmination the next.

His second presidential campaign faltered early on, just one of the Democrats shunted to the sidelines as the bracing contest between Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton sucked the air out of the rest of the field.

The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Biden is one of the most influential foreign policy voices in Congress. An internationalist and strong supporter of the United Nations, he is a leading critic of what he sees as the vague, unilateralist approach of President Bush.

Biden voted in 2002 to authorize the Iraq invasion, which Obama opposed from the start. Since then, he's become a firm critic of the conflict and pushed through a resolution last year declaring that Bush's troop increase — now considered a military success — was "not in the national interest."

One of the youngest politicians ever elected to the Senate — he was 29 — Biden entered the 1988 Democratic presidential primary promising to "rekindle the fire of idealism in our society." He reluctantly quit the race three months later after he was caught lifting lines from a speech by a British Labour Party leader.

In his latest effort, Biden proved to be a cheerful campaigner who mixed easily with voters, got along with rivals and displayed a self-deprecating sense of humor that leavened debates and speeches. When he was asked in one debate whether he's much too wordy, he drew laughs with a one-word answer, "No."

Obama jumped in to defend him on another occasion when he was asked if he had a problem with minorities.

The question was rooted in Biden's occasional gaffes. He had apologized earlier for describing Obama as "articulate" and "clean" in one unguarded episode that was taken by some to have a racial overtone. And he'd had to defend his remark that "you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent."

Biden confronted tragedy five weeks after his first election. In 1972, his first wife, Neilia, and 13-month-old daughter, Naomi, were killed when a tractor-trailer broad-sided her station wagon as she drove home with a family Christmas tree. His sons Beau and Hunt were badly hurt.

He was sworn in from the hospital bedside of one his sons and still won't work on Dec. 18, the date of the accident.

In 1977, Biden married Jill Tracy Jacobs. They have a daughter, Ashley. Both of his sons are lawyers, and the elder son, Beau, was elected state attorney general of Delaware in November.

Biden himself had a close brush with death in February 1988, when he was hospitalized for two brain aneurysms. It was seven months before he could return to the Senate.

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Gene in Mass

This is precisely why I don't like the (apparent, at this time) choice of Biden as VP. I think he'd make a great VP, but I think he makes a lousy VP candidate for Obama. Sure, he can be as vicious an attack dog as one could find, but Camp Obama seems to be running this campaign on the idea that tight message control wins races. Biden simply can't be counted on to stay on message.

When you factor in that he doesn't bring a state Obama doesn't already get on his own, he looks like a waste of a pick.

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:23 AM EDT
Barry Rutherford

I agree with what you say in the first part. But I think Biden will add much needed bite to the Obama Campaign whilst Obama has given great vision speeches I think he has portrayed a shortage of experience & the need to have a hard man in the wheelhouse with Biden he has both...

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:56 AM EDT
Pamela Drew

Not only that Biden is an old white guy who lives the real family values, and experience in spades. He also has a son deploying to Iraq, which few in Washington can boast on either side of the aisle. Yes, he voted for the war but unlike the Chickenhawks, he has skin in the game, not just profits.

  • 14 votes
#1.2 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:30 AM EDT
Trog-221687

I'd have to disagree Gene, Biden's a pit bull with credentials to back it up. McCain has left so much open to attack with minor response from Obama. Biden will pound the inaccuracies, miss-quotes, and poor choice of words from McCain, while bringing the 'feel' of experience to the ticket. I think he'll stay on message after watching him in the debates. Obama's campain is far to disciplined.

  • 8 votes
#1.3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:42 AM EDT
Gene in Mass

Trog,

I think I said much the same thing when I said "Sure, he can be as vicious an attack dog as one could find" but he also has a long history of falling off his own message, so how can you count on him to stay on someone else's message?

I imagine the VP debate will be fun because Biden is sharp as a tack, but the gaffes we can expect from him will also provide fodder for McCain-Romney (I mean, come on, we all know it's Romney.)

And he's from Delaware, a state not in play. I would've liked to see a southern Governor, but that's just me. It may work better than I expect. I sure hope so.

  • 5 votes
#1.4 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:50 AM EDT
Trog-221687

I guess for me it depends on how well he falls into the structure of the campaign. I'll agree he's a gaff machine at times, but I do believe he'll add to the ticket. Time will tell. It would be questioned to the nth degree no mater the choice.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:09 AM EDT
Jivatman

(I mean, come on, we all know it's Romney.)

Umm... no we don't. From all I can see, McCain still feels a whole lot of hostility towards Romney. Anyhow, McCain has a history of doing whatever he wants, and not necessarily what the republican establishment wants.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:12 AM EDT
Christian Areas

All this talk about Biden and the gaffes, etc. won't add up too much in the grand scheme of things. If anything, the public has already been inoculated. In this respect, the bar is set low. In addition, this is Obama's campaign, and Biden, being the loyal, trustworthy guy he is, will play ball.

And regarding the pick overall, I think Obama made an excellent choice. Biden seems like a guy Obama can work with, and trust. And obviously he's experienced. I think the days of picking a VP based on geography and the like are over. A smart Presidential candidate picks someone who will help him/her govern.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:45 AM EDT
Scott Isaacs

Biden has rigidly defined positives and negatives. On the whole I agree with Gene. The choice of Biden is something the Obama camp is going to have to overcome rather than the VP choice greasing the wheels of victory.

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:47 AM EDT
Pamela Drew

McCain still feels a whole lot of hostility towards Romney.

Not to mention the effect of adding a billionaire to a ticket, with several sons of age to serve, that are not signing up for Iraq, to a man who can't keep track of how many houses he owns. It tends to lose that everyman feel the GOP love to portray. They were already fooled by a Blue Blooded heir to the Wall Street investment bankers in cowboy boots, who said himself, fool me twice, you can't.

  • 4 votes
#1.9 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
arcanebliss

I'd say Biden helps Obama keep his image and still roll with McCain's punches.

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:49 PM EDT
carlw

I think he should be Mc Cains VP thqanks to all the nice things he said President Mc Cain!!! opps Soon to be !
Biden Said President Bush Should Have Followed John McCain's Foreign Policy Lead Following The September 11, 2001 Attacks. Biden: "I mean, look, the president had a choice and it was a tough choice when he came--when 9/11 occurred. He could either listen to the advice Colin Powell and Shinseki and most of the uniformed military, and John McCain as well, and Dick Lugar and others, or choose the advice of the vice president, secretary of State--the secretary of Defense and others, and he chose the wrong advice, and this--I think we need a fresh start to be able to gain any momentum on this war on terror, and I don't think we're going to see any change--I'd feel a lot better if I knew that President Bush was going to be elected--and I'm not being solicitous--if I knew he was going to start to listen to John McCain instead of the secretary of Defense, because they have totally different--no, I shouldn't say totally--many--have very different views of how to proceed. And so I think you'd see a difference in the way how you prosecute the war in Iraq. I think you'd see a difference in how you dealt with homeland security. And I think you'd see a difference in terms of the cooperation with other nations in terms of getting the consensus on how to deal with controlling chemical, biological, nuclear weapons." (CBS's, "Face The Nation," 10/31/04)

Biden Praised McCain's Early Call For More Troops In Iraq. Biden: "And so I've believed for a long time, a view shared by my Republican colleague John McCain and many others as well, that we need more force in Iraq. That's not a popular position to take. But we need more force now in order to have less force later. We need to gain control of security in Iraq." (Sen. Joe Biden, To The Center For Strategic And International Studies Policy Forum, Washington, DC, 4/15/04)

In 2005, Biden Even Said He'd Be Honored To Run On The Same Ticket As John McCain. Comedy Central's Jon Stewart: "You may end up going against a Senate colleague, perhaps McCain, perhaps Frist?" Biden: "John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off -- be well off no matter who..." Stewart: "Did I hear, Did I hear with?" Biden: "You know, John McCain and I think…" Stewart: "Don't become cottage cheese my friend. Say it." Biden: "The answer is yes." (Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" 8/2/05)

    #1.11 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
    Mike LaGattuta

    Umm... no we don't. From all I can see, McCain still feels a whole lot of hostility towards Romney. Anyhow, McCain has a history of doing whatever he wants, and not necessarily what the republican establishment wants.

    That is a @!$%#ing riot...

    McCain has a history of doing what he wants... Ok Ill give you that, 6 years ago he did alot of stuff the establishment didnt agree with (if you are so inclined to believe he meant it)

    But what about the past, oh say 2 years... What about that history my friend?

    Your telling that the past 2 years are anything other than McCain selling his soul on every maverick position he held in 02?

    are you delirious..

    • 1 vote
    #1.12 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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    elreybrown

    Biden is and was my First choice for President. This has me ecstatic and I'm an independent. Biden has the real plan on how to deal with Iraq and Iran. As an African American this decision makes me proud of Barry O. Biden will make a superb Dick Cheney.

    • 7 votes
    #2 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:48 AM EDT
    oneburn

    Ahem. You mean Biden will make a superb Vice President. :)

    • 6 votes
    #2.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:04 AM EDT
    DEMSLOVECENSORS

    Why does it have to make you proud as an african-american, why not just an american? It doesn't make me proud as an european-american that Biden is the pick, just proud as an american.

    • 6 votes
    #2.2 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:13 AM EDT
    Christian Areas

    Why does it have to make you proud as an african-american, why not just an american? It doesn't make me proud as an european-american that Biden is the pick, just proud as an american.

    He can be proud in any fashion he desires. This is America, after all. Relax.

    • 9 votes
    #2.3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:47 AM EDT
    DEMSLOVECENSORS

    Than I am proud as a white American that all past presidents have been white, is that acceptable because I don't think so, I'm relaxed, but peoplesay we are past race in this country, yet I see it being brought up by mnorities constantly. I never owned slaves, I never lynched anyone, and I have never met a single person who has been a slave. I would love to be past the raace relations in this country, but as long as people say things like this it just shows the divide. Whyis no one talking about the 90% of blacks that support Barrack, is all of that on merit or policy alone, I think not. It's on race, thats the definition of racism. America is being driven farther and farther from coming together by decisive issues like this, but we ignore them, and it's a double standard in this country. If everyone voting along racial lines like the majority of african americans in this country, than Barrack Obama would have been out a long time ago, and that wouldn't be fair or right. And let me refute what I know is coming with the statement that 90% of african americans are poor, it's actually less than 50 so why aren't the blacks in middle class dividing their votes, racism. So no we can't be proud anyway we want in America. I have been denied the right to be proud as a White American.

    • 2 votes
    #2.4 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:39 AM EDT
    oneburn

    Ok, now you're being ridiculous. You're right that it isn't clear why it makes him/her proud to be an african american with the vice president nomination. Maybe elray should have expanded on that, and could have said it makes him/her proud as an american. However, America does not need non-acknowledgement of culture. it's actually ok in the states to be proud of who you are. nobody has denied you any rights. the only divisive issue here is your lack of respect.

    • 4 votes
    #2.5 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:04 AM EDT
    Christian Areas

    Fed 51, your idiotic comments are not even worth addressing. Good day.

    • 2 votes
    #2.6 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
    DEMSLOVECENSORS

    Being born and raised in inner city Detroit, I know exactly what I'm saying, just because you watch MTV and buy rap cds from your suburban out of touch reality life doesn't mean you know whats going on. I've seen first hand things you don't even admit are going on in the world. Don't get mad because blacks support him because of race, I'm not saying they can't or even that they shouldn't, but it is a fact.

    • 1 vote
    #2.7 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
    Christian Areas

    I don't watch MTV, jack. Take your assumptions elsewhere.

    • 2 votes
    #2.8 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
    DEMSLOVECENSORS

    and that changes anything ? you've still formed you opinions as many Americans have ( or it doesn't make sense and you wouldn't have those opinions) by being out of touch with what is really going on with regards to what I am speaking about.

    • 1 vote
    #2.9 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
    oneburn

    You're talking about an entirely different issue. I think Obama ran the risk of making black people the opposite of proud, if he had embarrassed himself and had become a poor excuse for a politician, but he didn't. Elrey is talking about Obama's decision to select Biden, not what you think is her decision to blindly support a black president. If Jesse Jackson were to run for president, he wouldn't get as much support as you'd think.

    • 4 votes
    #2.10 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
    Christian Areas

    Fed 51, way to continue with the assumptions.

    How is it that you know what I am and am not in touch with? You've already proved you believe I am a "black-sympathizer" -- as if being black is a bad thing. You probably assume I am white, considering you believe I listen to MTV, live in the suburbs and bump rap music. The fact that I can string together a sentence better than you, probably supports that obvious bias. I think you're out of touch with reality, sir.

    • 2 votes
    #2.11 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
    DEMSLOVECENSORS

    Really ? where did I assume your a black sympathizer ? Where did I assume that being black was bad, and the fact that you can string a sentence together better than I can would be under debate. I beleive my profs would probably disagree. graduating top my class in undergraduate with a 4.1 and law school with a 4.0, both being top universities I have a hard time buying this. Just because you don't like my sentences, doesn't make them worse than yours. So prove me wrong with info no one can prove. Where are you from ? Where did you go to school ? What type of music do you buy? So lets see if my assumptions on what your going to say come true.

    • 1 vote
    #2.12 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
    Christian Areas

    I gleaned that from your comments. Pretty obvious, actually.

    As far as my background, I have nothing to prove. But I'll tell you, most of your assumptions are wrong.

    • 4 votes
    #2.13 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
    arcanebliss

    I strongly considered supporting Biden for President.

    • 3 votes
    #2.14 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
    arcanebliss

    I'm proud to be a Cuban American. :)

    • 3 votes
    #2.15 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:51 PM EDT
    carlw

    read this and you should vote for Mc Cain and not vote for Obama because he is African American!

    dont you remember in the primary Biden said Obama is the first Black candidate to come oalong..... becuae he is clean and articulate!

    come on if that is not a racist statement why dont you stop voting becuause of your skin color and vote for someone who is experirnced! like John Mc Cain!

    Biden Said President Bush Should Have Followed John McCain's Foreign Policy Lead Following The September 11, 2001 Attacks. Biden: "I mean, look, the president had a choice and it was a tough choice when he came--when 9/11 occurred. He could either listen to the advice Colin Powell and Shinseki and most of the uniformed military, and John McCain as well, and Dick Lugar and others, or choose the advice of the vice president, secretary of State--the secretary of Defense and others, and he chose the wrong advice, and this--I think we need a fresh start to be able to gain any momentum on this war on terror, and I don't think we're going to see any change--I'd feel a lot better if I knew that President Bush was going to be elected--and I'm not being solicitous--if I knew he was going to start to listen to John McCain instead of the secretary of Defense, because they have totally different--no, I shouldn't say totally--many--have very different views of how to proceed. And so I think you'd see a difference in the way how you prosecute the war in Iraq. I think you'd see a difference in how you dealt with homeland security. And I think you'd see a difference in terms of the cooperation with other nations in terms of getting the consensus on how to deal with controlling chemical, biological, nuclear weapons." (CBS's, "Face The Nation," 10/31/04)

    Biden Praised McCain's Early Call For More Troops In Iraq. Biden: "And so I've believed for a long time, a view shared by my Republican colleague John McCain and many others as well, that we need more force in Iraq. That's not a popular position to take. But we need more force now in order to have less force later. We need to gain control of security in Iraq." (Sen. Joe Biden, To The Center For Strategic And International Studies Policy Forum, Washington, DC, 4/15/04)

    In 2005, Biden Even Said He'd Be Honored To Run On The Same Ticket As John McCain. Comedy Central's Jon Stewart: "You may end up going against a Senate colleague, perhaps McCain, perhaps Frist?" Biden: "John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off -- be well off no matter who..." Stewart: "Did I hear, Did I hear with?" Biden: "You know, John McCain and I think…" Stewart: "Don't become cottage cheese my friend. Say it." Biden: "The answer is yes." (Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" 8/2/05)

    • 1 vote
    #2.16 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
    Barry Rutherford

    carlw not need to make all of the type bold only that which needs to be emphasised !

    • 4 votes
    #2.17 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:29 PM EDT
    Roy Batty

    carlw needs to get his head out of the past using references from 2004 and 2005 when we are currently in 2008. He's even quoting articles about the last presidential election!

    Note that today is carlw's first day at Newsvine. Oddly enough, all he seems to do is try to trash Joe Biden. Coincidence? I think not.

    • 4 votes
    #2.18 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:48 PM EDT
    Mike LaGattuta

    Carlw is a space cadet..

    Don't waste your breath..

    He believes, he does not think.. there is a difference..

    Its all just pre programmed script,

    Guidlines for a neoconservative taint ball running for president.

    "Step 1) Insert media undertones"

    "Step 2) Make up a bunch of @!$%# and tell them its true"

    "Step 3) Enjoy the sound of 'baaaahhh....Baaahhhh"

      #2.19 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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      DEMSLOVECENSORS

      Biden doesn't bring alot to the table. I think he'd make a better Presidential nominee than runningmate for Obama. The only thing he could've helped with was Penn., but if McCain chooses Romney or Ridge, he gains Mi. or Penn., With this Obama gains nothing. He already had Deleware.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:11 AM EDT
      JoulesBeef

      yeah he brinsg absolutely nothing but years of foreign policy experience.. as well as age and family values and he is white.
      Your right he brings absolutely nothign.. perhaps obama should quit now... nah.. lets just see how this plays out .. shall we.

      • 4 votes
      #3.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:16 AM EDT
      Trog-221687

      *snicker*

      • 1 vote
      #3.2 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:21 AM EDT
      Christian Areas

      It's not about picking someone who is going to bring you this state or that, it's about picking someone who is going to help you govern. Obama made a choice as a leader, not a politician (obviously politics had something to do with it, I know). This is about who is going to help Obama govern best.

      • 3 votes
      #3.3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:50 AM EDT
      logdump

      Both of whom may make him lose other states with no guarantee Michigan or Penn will go to them. After all the guys name at the top of the tickets is still the same.

      • 2 votes
      #3.4 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:40 AM EDT
      DEMSLOVECENSORS

      I can't wait to see how it plays out so that you can get off your high hirse and stop acting like anyone who disagrees with you is stupid. Do you have a higher IQ then Ben Stiller, doubt it, are you a member of MENSA ? Doubt it, did you even graduate college wih honors ? Doubt it, oh wait did you you even graduate college ? or id=f so did you graduate from Yale with honors like some of us, doubt it. So get off your high horse, you argument is flawed, If Biden brings sooo much, then he would be the nominee, not the VP pick, so go home, study argumentative debate and come back when you can put together a decent persuasive comment, or you can be a bit more humble and stop putting others down.

      • 2 votes
      #3.5 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:31 AM EDT
      Christian Areas

      Fed 51, your comments are getting really annoying. And you should take some of your own advice. You say Biden is better on the top of the ticket, but not good enough for VP, all because he's not from the right region? Yeah, that makes sense.

      • 3 votes
      #3.6 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:00 PM EDT
      DEMSLOVECENSORS

      I'm saying that because his ideas and experience would make him a good leader. The VP has NO POWER, it work just to bring in votes from people who would othrwise not vote that way, so yes, as a nominee he works, and I would have voted for him, as a VP he doesn't work because he doesn't bring in voters outside of Obama's demographic. Use some logic instead of just being degrading. If you can't understand this argument, go back to school. I'm afraid Bush 's plan didn't work, evidently, You've been left behind.

      You stating wrong, it was clearly a political move, and Obama's staff has admitted it, just like the waiting game was a politicl move, and now he's going negative and losing ground, another political move and they are all costing him, when you're candidate looses, he has no one to blame but himself and his political moves (just like the technicality that got him elected in Ill.)

      I wish they could both lose, The majority of Americans don't fully support either candidate and neither do I. The worst part is, I'm not even advocating John McCain and you still can't se that. VP doesn't help Govern unless they're a manipulative power monger like Cheney, and he still doesn't really have any power, even if the far left try to say he does....they needscape goats.

      • 1 vote
      #3.7 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
      Mike LaGattuta

      Federalist.. You are really jacked up man, so just breathe for a second..

      One.. you are blatantly contradicting yourself..

      Use some logic instead of just being degrading. If you can't understand this argument, go back to school

      Ok.. this is an example of hypocrisy

      You tell him not to be degrading.. then you degrade him and tell him to go back to school..

      Again.. im not attacking you, so just chill for a second.. lets bring this back to earth shall we..

      I like your point about Biden being more suited for a bid on his own terms then as Obama's running mate.. And also about picking someone who adds something to his ticket to get into office.. I love Obama picking someone to run with him that would help govern, but im worried about the 3-5 percent the republicans will be getting in key states by way of complete election fraud.. we all know what happened in florida in 2000. Don't think we fixed that @!$%# yet..

      So i would have liked to see someong like the Gov. of Kansas, who I started learning about and liked alot.. Or even Senator Bayh.. Or Kaine..

      But then again..

      Biden WILL NOT, take @!$%#.. and im so @!$%#ing tired of the democrats being completely spineless that I actually am in favor of Biden even with everything else we have said..

      Biden is going to stand up and tell you to sit the @!$%# down, hes not gonna let these greasy pieces of scum wiesel their way out of @!$%# anymore.. It will be real quick..

      Neo-Con dough boy says something ridiculous..

      Biden back hands him to the floor (because a back hand is all they are worth) and proudly proclaims that no longer will America allow criminals to war profiteer and pave the way for so called "friendly fascism"

      • 2 votes
      #3.8 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
      DEMSLOVECENSORS

      I was making a point that no one like to be degraded, I know it was hypocritical, that was the point, but I understand what you mean.

        #3.9 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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        DoubtinThomasDeleted
        Alex-374441

        I'm a Hillary Clinton supporter and thought Obama was going to pick her as his running mate.
        Does that mean I going to vote Republican? No.
        I'm not going to vote for that Republican scum bag with 7 homes with Bush ideas. And I hope other Hillary Clinton supporters feel the same way.
        Oh well, I quess I won't be voting this coming Election.

        Obama made a bad choice and that is going to cost him the chance of being elected as President of this great Nation.

        Alex

        • 2 votes
        Reply#5 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:18 AM EDT
        DoubtinThomasDeleted
        oatmealsnap

        Not voting is just as bad as voting for someone you don't want to win. Vote for someone. I want to say vote for Obama because I'm sure you and your country (and the world, for that matter) will be happier with him rather than cum bag you mentioned, but thats not my place. Heck, check out some third party candidates. At least put enough effort ito it to show that you care.

        • 4 votes
        #5.2 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:38 AM EDT
        Jivatman

        Alex, we understand that Hillary Clinton supporters want to maintain their independence, they are even going to be voted upon in the Democratic convention.

        However, Hillary herself wishes Obama well, and I hope she will be able to convince you that you do not want an attack on Iran and WWIII.

        You may maintain your independence and support for Hillary... yet still vote for Obama, and you will remain an important and influential block of voters during the Obama presidency. However, if you revolt, than either Mccain will win and WWIII starts, or Obama wins, and your block of voters find their concerns completely ignored, and the remaining democratic establishment will continue to be resentful.

        You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you might find, you get what you need.

        • 4 votes
        #5.3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:38 AM EDT
        JoulesBeef

        I don't buy a real dem would let mccain win just to punish obama for not pickign hilary.. perhaps youa re real.. but if youa re.. the polls show youa re an extreme extreme minority.

        anyways you stated this
        "Remember one thing, UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL."

        you do know your being played byt he gop isf yous aty home.. that's why they did operation chaos.
        Ever watch south park.. the episode cripple fight?? see how the boys told one of the handicapped kids the other was talking abd about him and started a fight?
        That's what the gop is doing.. see they cant win you over.. that is ovious.. the only way they can win is to lessen the numebr of voters, purge the rolls or bettr yet get some people to stay home.. like you.... so they manuufactured the contravercy and got us all to attack each other..
        don't fall for it.. go vote.. or you'll just be a puppet of the repulicain party.. Seriously this was their plan all along.

        • 4 votes
        #5.4 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:19 AM EDT
        DEMSLOVECENSORS

        But being a true democrat isn't as important as being a true American by just voting party lines you showing that America doesn't come first, the party comes first.

        DoubtinThomas...good point

        oatmealsnap....the world's opinion on who should be President shouldn't matter should it, or else we need to let the entire world's poulation vote.

        • 1 vote
        #5.5 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
        Mike LaGattuta

        Federalist...

        We can't beat the entire world playing checkers... But we might be able to playing chess...

        I think we need to make the world hate us less..

        That will stop the violence.. that will make us safer..

        Its almost too simple to grasp..

        Not bombing = Less Hatred = Less Attacks

        More Bombing = More Hatred = More Attacks

        Plus there will always be people who hate us either way, so why not just protect ourselves from them and stop pushing people into their ranks because we blew up their town.

          #5.6 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
          DEMSLOVECENSORS

          Thats what I worry about, we worry too much about who hates us. I agree, we shouldn't be in Iraq, we shouldn't get involved in anyone elses conflicts in my opinion, including Georgia's because if we have a right to try and push "democracy" on others then doesn't that mean Russia should be free to push socialism on others....I think both are wrong

          • 2 votes
          #5.7 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
          Scott Isaacs

          Isolationism is an appealing but impractical foreign policy. We just need someone that is better and more subtle about applying American power and I think Obama is that someone.

          • 2 votes
          #5.8 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:08 AM EDT
          DEMSLOVECENSORS

          Well I'm not for complete isolationism either, but maybe we should lean that way ? Trya to stay out of other peoples business until it really and truly affects us ?

            #5.9 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
            arcanebliss

            Jivatman

            However, Hillary herself wishes Obama well, and I hope she will be able to convince you that you do not want an attack on Iran and WWIII.

            "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran (if it attacks Israel)," Clinton said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

            "In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them," she said.
            Clinton says U.S. could "totally obliterate" Iran

            • 1 vote
            #5.10 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
            Scott Isaacs

            Federalist:

            Well I'm not for complete isolationism either, but maybe we should lean that way ? Trya to stay out of other peoples business until it really and truly affects us ?

            Obama said in his Iraq speech that he wasn't against war, he was against bad wars. I think that's the right approach to take. We need to be more discerning about where we engage our military but we can't develop an aversion to war even when it is needed just because Iraq was bungled and turned out okay in the end because Bush stumbled upon a great Army officer to set it right. We should focus in any future conflict on stringently defining our objective before taking action, preventing mission creep and sending more than enough troops to do the job so that when the inevitable unexpected happens we are flexible enough to handle it.

            • 2 votes
            #5.11 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:11 AM EDT
            DEMSLOVECENSORS

            And I can agree with him fully on that

              #5.12 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:14 PM EDT
              Reply
              Rod StaffDeleted
              TheFunkyBunch

              Wooooooooooooo! Obama/Biden 2008!

              • 4 votes
              Reply#7 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:05 AM EDT
              Americana1

              Birds of a feather flock together..... No surprise Barack Hussein Obama picks a racist to run with him. If anybody want's to know who Biden really is, just search Youtube for "Biden Indian" and you will see for yourself!!!

              :)

              • 3 votes
              Reply#8 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:15 AM EDT
              JoulesBeef

              lol.. what better way than to reach across the aisle and pick up gopr votes.

              • 4 votes
              #8.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:26 AM EDT
              Americana1

              LOL... Nice!

              • 1 vote
              #8.2 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:38 AM EDT
              Christian Areas

              Yawn. Such predictable attacks.

              • 3 votes
              #8.3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:00 AM EDT
              Rod StaffDeleted
              Christian Areas

              Calling Obama and Biden racists is deserved? Nonsense.

              P.S. Your comment has been flagged. Next time, put a little intelligence in your personal attack.

              • 2 votes
              #8.5 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
              DEMSLOVECENSORS

              You flagged someone for their opinion because they disagree with you Christian / Welcome back McCarthyism only reversed.

              • 1 vote
              #8.6 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:22 PM EDT
              Christian Areas

              "Shut your cake hole" is obviously inappropriate. Read the Code of Honor lately? Way to spin though.

              • 2 votes
              #8.7 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
              DEMSLOVECENSORS

              I've been practicing my spin, I love to work you all up, both McCain's and Obama's supporters you all need to come back down to earth, or maybe we should have let states suceed so their could be the crazy left wingers in one, the nutty right wingers in another, and a middle ground for comprimising stable people from the middle.

              • 1 vote
              #8.8 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
              Mike LaGattuta

              Yea the attacks are not deserved because McCain deserves them more...

              Thats sort of how an insult works..

              A short guy says to a tall guy..

              "Your tall and clumsy, look how much fun I can have running quickly through your legs.."

              This is a well executed attack because the short guy makes fun of something that the tall guy does not have or possess which the short guy does...

              But how about if the short guy said to the tall guy..

              "You arent really that tall, Ive seen people taller then you, your just a phony short person acting tall"

              Now this is an example of Lunacy, because he is attacking someone else on something that he himself lacks or is worse off on..

              McCain is so often the short man calling the rest of us tiny.. Or wait was it that we liked to "whine" about the economy?

                #8.9 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
                Reply
                chireece

                i just got my text.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#9 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:40 AM EDT
                Christian Areas

                Still waiting for mine. :p

                • 3 votes
                #9.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:00 AM EDT
                Macks

                Yeah it was kind of late for me too. But this is great isn't it.

                • 1 vote
                #9.2 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
                Christian Areas

                I never even got mine. I signed up late though. Did get the email (signed up earlier for that).

                • 2 votes
                #9.3 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:46 AM EDT
                Reply
                zennhead

                Biden is a good man. He is also a man who cannot stop talking. He will, in fact, postulate his Ultra Liberal views and underscore that Obama is a true Ultra Liberal Elitist, as is Biden. He is a very smart, very decent guy, and has earned many a joke as a "bloviator," during his time in the Senate. He may have some very good ideas, but they're going to be seen as pretty darned liberal. I doubt that latching on to Joe Biden is going to win over the people in "red counties" that Clinton won. The Ultra Liberal Left wing of the Democrat Party continues to think America is pre-Socialist ready.
                It's not.
                I wish in some ways, it was.
                It's not.
                The pro-abortion stands Biden holds will reinforce Obama's own radical ideas. I am pro-abortion, but the fact is, there are growing doubts about the procedure, by many. I would not rescind those rights. However, I think that a growing majority of Americans have doubts about the whole issue. I think that Biden bringing in Deleware on election night isn't going to do much for Obama. I think he will be a good vice presidential candidate, but now McCain is free to select someone who will be younger than he; stand tall on "social issues" that many moderate Americans hold (again, not necessarily me on many of them), and work to capitalize on those "red counties," that Clinton won and could have won in the general election.
                It will be interesting to see what Biden does to step in his own poo.
                This will be very interesting, now that we have three senators, and counting, in a race where things are supposed to be about "change."
                The change may be: legislative change, or rhetorical change.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#10 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:45 AM EDT
                Americana1

                Pro-abortion??? So let me get this straight.... It's not "women have a right to choose" anymore? You actually are "pro-abortion" in the sense that you think women MUST abort their unborn children??? Wow that's pretty gruesome!!!

                • 2 votes
                #10.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:52 AM EDT
                Rod StaffDeleted
                Reply
                Trog-221687

                Joules, do you actually take a position on a subject or are you simply here to stir the pot for your own entertainment values? I've been following you for quite sometime and you never seem to have an actual point. I might have a little more respect for you if you cared about the conversations that you enter into.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#11 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:47 AM EDT
                Trog-221687

                There's a little button next to the arrow that reports code of honor violations people. If you care about honest discourse, use the !.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#12 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:02 AM EDT
                Furman A Powell

                Bill Clinton said that the only presidential decision that a candidate is allowed to make to prove that he should be president is his choice of vice president. Over 18 million Americans and 36 Generals and Admirals had chosen Hillary Clinton as better qualified to be president. Senator Obama has failed in his first presidential decision.

                Furman A Powell, Viet Nam Vet, Disabled Bosnia Vet

                • 2 votes
                #13 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:18 AM EDT
                Christian Areas

                Ha! Failed to please you you mean. He made a great choice, IMO.

                • 3 votes
                #13.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:02 AM EDT
                DEMSLOVECENSORS

                No, failed to show he has sound judgement and failed to show he cares what americans want, much like you fail to care what the majority wants unless they ascribe to your views.

                • 1 vote
                #13.2 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
                Christian Areas

                You like down there on my coattails, Fed 51? And how exactly has he "failed to show he cares what [A]mericans want"? Oh, and the straw men are really cute. Way to make a case.

                • 2 votes
                #13.3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
                DEMSLOVECENSORS

                Because he did not do what his parties loyal supporters asked of him, they are Americans also, and choose Clinton, although I'm happy he didn't, I like Biden personally, I would have voted for him if he were the nominee, instead I think I'll vote Obama's favorite vote and go with a "present" vote.

                • 1 vote
                #13.4 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
                Christian Areas

                Well, first of all, the choice is Obama's and Obama's alone. This is nothing new, in case you just crawled out from under a rock.

                Second, the American people (in my view) wanted Obama to make a smart choice and pick someone who was going to help him build a strong ticket and White House. He did just that, which negates your claim.

                And by all means, vote "present." But if you really care about your country, you'll vote based on the issues, not sour grapes. I still can't believe that a small minority continues to contend that Hillary is entitled to a spot in the White House. Go figure.

                • 2 votes
                #13.5 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
                DEMSLOVECENSORS

                Now your doing this just as you have all day just to argue anything I say, you know, as well as I do that the majority of the party wanted Clinton as number 2, to argue that you're just wanting to try to argue against me. The choice is not his and his alone, the American people have a say, and the party can still overrule his choice, unless you just crawled out from under a rock you would know, it's not really his choice alone. I dislike Hillary, I beleive she wouldn't make a good president or vp, but that doesn't mean I get to decide if even 51% of people thought she should be. Your loyalty is staggering considering you don't even know this man.

                • 1 vote
                #13.6 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
                Christian Areas

                Yawn. Kerry made this mistake four years ago, by picking the most "popular" person. Big mistake, as should be obvious by now.

                • 2 votes
                #13.7 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
                DEMSLOVECENSORS

                Again, great job, I am wrong, and you are perfect, thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge of everything in the world with me, I, as everyone else in the country, look forward to voting for you perfect campaign next election. Should we all bow now, or wait for America to be declared a monarchy so that we may have the privilige to place a crown upon your superior head.

                  #13.8 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
                  DEMSLOVECENSORS

                  It's obvious Edwards lost him the race ?

                    #13.9 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:39 PM EDT
                    Christian Areas

                    You think to much of me, Fed 51. LOL! I'm just here making my case. Feel free to do the same. And make your ivy league professors proud. LOL!

                    • 2 votes
                    #13.10 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:49 AM EDT
                    DEMSLOVECENSORS

                    My Ivy league professors hated me, I was to conservative, even if a moderate socially, thats why I'm torn, we can't force a pro-life opinion, but I don't think we can afford to increase government like obama wants, I hope McCain is different than Bush because Bush increased gov't too, so maybe we're just screwed either way, I'm still confused, but I like to play devil's advocate. But I firmly believe social programs are a drain on us, and the family should be more responsible for their elderly parents, or their special needs children. It's all about balance, and I don't think either is balanced enough for me.

                      #13.11 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:40 AM EDT
                      arcanebliss

                      Federalist No. 51
                      But I firmly believe social programs are a drain on us, and the family should be more responsible for their elderly parents, or their special needs children. It's all about balance, and I don't think either is balanced enough for me.

                      What about the elderly that have no family to rely on? Feed them to the wolves?

                      • 2 votes
                      #13.12 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:42 AM EDT
                      Scott Isaacs

                      AB:
                      Feed them to the hungry... it worked for Jonathan Swift and the overpopulation of children. ;-)

                      • 2 votes
                      #13.13 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:13 AM EDT
                      DEMSLOVECENSORS

                      Thats why I say a blance needs to be struck, I understand a need for some, and limited social programs. Also, you can't blame children for their parents bad mistakes who didn't save for retirement and say oh well you take care of them, so I know their needs to be a BALANCE like I first said

                        #13.14 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
                        arcanebliss

                        Federalist No. 51Thats why I say a blance needs to be struck, I understand a need for some, and limited social programs. Also, you can't blame children for their parents bad mistakes who didn't save for retirement and say oh well you take care of them, so I know their needs to be a BALANCE like I first said

                        Except the Healthcare system is flawed and major corporations are taking advantage of average American citizens. Without government regulation, these issues will not fix themselves. While limited government involvement is ideal - it isn't a reality in human society. It's necessary that the government insure that all Americans are getting proper healthcare, food and a roof over their heads in all fairness under the system. The last 8 years we've seen little government involvement in these respects that I mentioned and look at how the system looks.

                        Again, the idea of limited government is fantastic. The idea that we can trust that all Americans, of wealth and meager will work with one another to insure not only their own personal success but their neighbor's success is a dream. But a dream only.

                        • 2 votes
                        #13.15 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
                        DEMSLOVECENSORS

                        Obama isn't for universal healthcare, read his webpage, he wants to make it more "affordable" whatever that means and reduce prices in healthcare and medicine. These issues were never meant to be handled by govt, especially not the federal govt, if states want to run these programs thats fine by me, I'd move, the dream was alive for almost 200 years ( and please don't use slavery as an argument against this, because it was a different time, and Africans used slavery on their own people at this time as well) so it can be a reality. This is not federal govt's job. When has it become my problem that someone is irresponsible and looses their home and family because he is a drunk or a drug addict ? I don't want my tax money going to pay for their problems, the balance comes into play again. Someone who is laid off due to a bad economy, or poor govt policy deserves help, yes, but not everyone, thats not fairness, and it's not the systems job to ensure success for all american. This country began by offering a chance at success, not the promise of it.

                          #13.16 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
                          arcanebliss

                          Federalist No. 51
                          Obama isn't for universal healthcare, read his webpage, he wants to make it more "affordable" whatever that means and reduce prices in healthcare and medicine.

                          Yeah, so?
                          A Detailed Analysis of Barack Obama's Health Care Reform Plan

                          These issues were never meant to be handled by govt, especially not the federal govt, if states want to run these programs thats fine by me, I'd move, the dream was alive for almost 200 years ( and please don't use slavery as an argument against this, because it was a different time, and Africans used slavery on their own people at this time as well) so it can be a reality. This is not federal govt's job.

                          Uh, it's the job of the government to look over the Welfare of it's citizens. What nation do you live in? The question isn't whether the government should be involved, it's HOW MUCH the government should be involved.

                          When has it become my problem that someone is irresponsible and looses their home and family because he is a drunk or a drug addict ?

                          Sure, because that profile defines most Americans with health and financial issues...

                          I don't want my tax money going to pay for their problems, the balance comes into play again.

                          Then move? Nobody is forcing you to live in the U.S. and pay taxes, you can easily go elsewhere if you are not happy with the system.

                          Someone who is laid off due to a bad economy, or poor govt policy deserves help, yes, but not everyone, thats not fairness, and it's not the systems job to ensure success for all american.

                          I agree with this.

                          Also, using the argument of where this country was at it's inception vs. today is flawed as all aspects of this nation's landscape have changed. Society wouldn't be able to function under the government rule that the citizens of yesteryear [17-1800s] were under.

                          • 2 votes
                          #13.17 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
                          DEMSLOVECENSORS

                          Who said it's govts place to look after the welfare of it's citizens, this country wasn't founded on a govt who looked after the rights of its citizens, with the power to repel invasion, not to make sure everyone if comfy. But again, like I stated earlier, I understand a need for some social welfare policies, but very little. And as for telling me to leave, why should I leave when I want things to stay the same, alot of democrats are trying to change our govt to socialism, so I should leave instead of trying to stop them ? No they should leave and setup their own socialist govt. they are not the majority, they do not speak for the majority of Americans. My family has been here since 1607 my my 13th great grandfather came over with the virginia company, and my 12th great grandmother was pocahontas, so don't try to pull the "native american" trip on me either.

                            #13.18 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:33 PM EDT
                            arcanebliss

                            Federalist No. 51
                            Who said it's govts place to look after the welfare of it's citizens, this country wasn't founded on a govt who looked after the rights of its citizens, with the power to repel invasion, not to make sure everyone if comfy. But again, like I stated earlier, I understand a need for some social welfare policies, but very little. And as for telling me to leave, why should I leave when I want things to stay the same, alot of democrats are trying to change our govt to socialism, so I should leave instead of trying to stop them ? No they should leave and setup their own socialist govt. they are not the majority, they do not speak for the majority of Americans. My family has been here since 1607 my my 13th great grandfather came over with the virginia company, and my 12th great grandmother was pocahontas, so don't try to pull the "native american" trip on me either.

                            See, that's what I was waiting for. The "Democrats are socialists claim". Good day.

                            • 2 votes
                            #13.19 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
                            Christian Areas

                            alot of democrats are trying to change our govt to socialism

                            Typical rightwing meme.

                            • 2 votes
                            #13.20 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
                            DEMSLOVECENSORS

                            I'm not even a right winger is the problem, if I don't agree I'm a radical rightwinger ? I am most definetly not, I am pro-choice, against Iraq, and agree with Obama on some issues, and McCain on some issues, how is that right wing....I'm not even a christian.

                              #13.21 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
                              arcanebliss

                              Federalist No. 51

                              I'm not even a right winger is the problem, if I don't agree I'm a radical rightwinger ? I am most definetly not, I am pro-choice, against Iraq, and agree with Obama on some issues, and McCain on some issues, how is that right wing....I'm not even a christian.

                              To be clear, what Christian said is that it's a typical rightwing meme - not that you're a Republican. And just assessing that statement on it's own, it holds true. I'm not a Democrat - this shouldn't have to be mentioned regardless - and see the foolishness in suggesting that the Democratic party as a whole is one filled with Socialists and a Socialist agenda. We need to ground ourselves and really think about these silly and baseless accusations.

                              • 1 vote
                              #13.22 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:54 PM EDT
                              Scott Isaacs

                              Those that are for economic growth, particularly small businesses, should keep in mind that if the govt takes on the burden of health insurance it will help small businesses thrive by limiting inflation in healthcare and lowering the price of insurance policies for their workers. Right now private companies are charging so much to cover small businesses they are on the verge of going broke or simply opt to not offer health insurance at all.

                              • 2 votes
                              #13.23 - Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:31 AM EDT
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                              Ramesh C. Manghirmalani, Danville,CaliforniaDeleted
                              Auset09

                              FANTASTIC PICK!!! MCCAIN CAN NO LONGER USE THE INEXPERIENCE AND LACK OF GOOD JUDGMENT LINE!! OBAMA GOT IT RIGHT!!!!!

                              IF YOU WANT AN END TO ROE V WADE AND THE REINSTITUTION OF THE DRAFT MCCAIN'S YOUR MAN. IF YOU WANT A FRESH AND INTELLIGENT PRESIDENT WHO WILL THINK BEFORE HE ACTS (UNLIKE BOMB BOMB BOMB MCCAIN) THAN GET READY FOR OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!!!

                              HOW EXCITING!!!!!

                                Reply#15 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:50 AM EDT
                                Luki

                                The caps lock key is to the left of the "a"...

                                • 5 votes
                                #15.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:58 AM EDT
                                Rod StaffDeleted
                                Luki

                                Yeah, he or she seems to have found the "!" as well...

                                • 2 votes
                                #15.3 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:27 AM EDT
                                Reply
                                Dawn Allison

                                I may not agree with Biden on key issues, and I am voting third party anyway, but Obama made the right choice. Biden has worked with repubs, he has mega foreign policy experience, and would be able to help Obama through the first few months if he Obama is elected. Hats off to Obama!!!!!

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#16 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:19 AM EDT
                                greenpagan

                                I bet on Hillary for VP.

                                But Biden's a good move anyway. I guess.

                                As long as he keeps his wig on...

                                The only question now is: What will all those angry hot-flashing Hillaryites do...?

                                ====

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#17 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:29 AM EDT
                                Scott Isaacs

                                I believe the accepted term is "Hillraiser" now. ;-)

                                • 2 votes
                                #17.1 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:50 AM EDT
                                Reply
                                Luki

                                Biden is the worst pick he could have made, at least in the name-similarity to Osama Bin Laden department (which yes I've always hated anyways)... but look at the new logo on Obama's website. It creeped me out just a little when I saw it out of the corner of my eye. Then the realization, "oh, right, that's stupid." Anyways.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#18 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:48 AM EDT
                                bluecollarbytes

                                Biden brings experience to the ticket, an "adult take" on things. We are not on the cusp of some new revelation in our politics from Obama. We live in a political continuum. Obama needed a mate that could plant the Bama on firmer ground.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#19 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:59 AM EDT
                                Dawn Allison

                                She and McCain should run together. The democrats have many angry voters over radically left wing policies, political correctness, and reverse discraimatnion. The country wants TRUE bi-partisanship-they need to have two ends of the spectrum who are basically in the middle to tone each other down. A McCain/Hilary run would be amazing for a bipartisan cournty. Both have worked across the aisles, and Obama is radical left wing socialism. What destroyed Bush was not so much democrats, it was angry repbus who are moderate. Anti Bush stuff did not sigify voters are ready for an increased welfare state, increased taxes on struggling working folks, and big governemtn (who thinking people do nut trust-they know gov. screws up more than it fixes). I say Hilary/McCain or 3rd party. NOBAMA NO, though I do agree with his VP pick.

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#20 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:11 AM EDT
                                No Mcgovern repeat 08

                                Biden was a great choice if you dont want someone who will watch what Obama does while in the Whitehouse.

                                BIden:
                                1965:As a freshman in law school back in 1965, he got an "F" in a class for writing a paper entirely based on one law review article

                                University of Delaware, Biden was 506th out of 688 classmates, and a history professor said he was "trying to be the complete Joe College."

                                Biden ended up 76th out of 85 in his law school class; the law school dean described him as an academic "disappointment"

                                1988, Biden ran for president but was forced to quit because he copied parts of a speech by a British politican, Neil Kinnock, and changed some parts to make it sound like it was about him.

                                Well given Obama was the best we could do witha president, Biden seems like a good match

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#21 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
                                oneburn

                                obama picked him because he isn't a yes man, but that he will question obama's actions. it is pretty bad though when both a president and vice president academically outshine the opposing nominee for president.

                                • 4 votes
                                #21.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
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                                DEMSLOVECENSORS

                                HILLARY AS AN INDEPENDENT IN '08 !!!!!!

                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#22 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:14 AM EDT
                                Roy Batty

                                MCCAIN/HILLARY '08!!!!!!!!

                                • 4 votes
                                #22.1 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
                                DEMSLOVECENSORS

                                That would be funny, I bet they would win in a landslide.

                                  #22.2 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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                                  John-446743

                                  My opinion is that now McCain have to find some top economic expert (let say some Prof. form Harvard) with perfect political past, but more importantly perfect economic expertise as a VP. It will certainly knock down democrats, and also send a clear message that McCain economic running of our country will be different than that of Bush.

                                    Reply#23 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:59 PM EDT
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