Fact Check: The fuller story in St. Paul

Anti-woman??? Her being female isn't mentioned as an issue at all in this article. Comments should try to stick to the article on the page.

There is a reason for that. Nobody, within the US or in the rest of the world wants, or can afford 8 more years of the same junk the Repubs have been throwing up on the world. Get these guys out of there NOW!!!!!

>>I can't remember such a flurry of anti-Republican, anti-conservative and now anti-woman/Palin pieces in such a short time span.

And I can't remember a vice-presidential candidate chosen so impulsively that the press has had to do the primary vetting. On this point alone, Palin is a worse choice than Eagleton was in 1972. The GOP has only McCain to blame for this mess.

I can't remember such a flurry of anti-Republican, anti-conservative and now anti-woman/Palin pieces in such a short time span.

Put the blame squarely where it belongs -- THE TRUTH. Darn truth!

bluecollar,

Right on time to spout the current GOP talking points. Heck of a job you're doing.

I know this is shocking , but people are waking up from the haze they have been in for the last 7 years. Before this election, when you criticised the GOP, you were accused of being unamerican, unpatriotic, and against the troops. Oh, and let's not forget my favorite accusation, "Why do you hate America?". These accusations stifled voices of dissent.

But enough is enough. People are willing to call bulls@*t at this point. Politics is a rough game as my republican friends are fond of saying. Put your adult undies on and stop the whining.

There are "facts" on both sides of the story. But where was a similar article following Obama's DNC speech? This article is so obviously biased Mr. Kuhnhenn should be embarassed.

Where are/were the articles highlighting Obama's shady connections with Ayers, Rezko, Wright, etc? C'mon now, what's fair is fair and the media has not been fair. When Gore ran in 2004 and his son was arrested for drunk driving, THERE WASN'T MENTION OF IT. But Palin has a daughter who is pregnant at 17 and the pack of wolves come down on her. SHAME!

Do all you socialist/liberal loving folks realize that you will be voting for a soft form of Communism? Yes, you brainwashed Lemmings, Socialism/Communism in America. It has arrived. As Carl Marx said, "From each according to his ability…to each according to his need." That's redistribution of wealth people and that's what Obama believes in. Better be ready to hand over your money, your control, your choices, decisions...your freedom to Big Government. Boy, I can't wait to see how they'll hack up our health care system, I mean look at the wonderful job they've already done with the education system. Good luck folks, be careful what you wish for!

"Soft Communism" ?? Huh? For the last (almost) 8 years the Republicans have 1) Undermined the constitutional balance of power 2) Decimated the 4th amendment 3) Suspended Habeas Corpus 4)Indebted Americans to a foreign power (China) for GENERATIONS 5)Diverted tax dollars collected from working class/middle class citizens to well connected and well funded corporations who are "friendly" to the administration 6) Lied to Congress AND the American people about the analysis of intelligence data regarding the imminence of the threat of WMD development by Saddam Hussien and 7) Used the lies they told as a basis for a hastily-developed and poorly executed invasion of a sovereign country that did not attack us and 8) Failed to bring the perpetrators of the 9/11 attack to justice. 9) They have tortured prisoners taken in that conflict In the distracted interval allowed their corporate owners to 10) manipulate the fossil fuel futures market (they "ENRONed" us) 11) Used the fossil market manipulation as an excuse to use taxpayer dollars to redirect food/feed grains into fuels generation for some exceptionally well-connected corporations and politicians. 12) Used EVERY office of the Executive branch to do political work, such as the Justice Department investigation of Democrats prior to elections 13) Firing experienced and capable lawyers to hire inexperienced lawyers from what is in essence, a "mail order" university because of their political views. THIS LIST GOES ON AND ON. These are not the mistakes of mismanagement, they are intentional and directed toward undermining the Constitution and developing a permanent, one-party government.

Now, this Palin is claiming that only "small town" people are REAL Americans, the Middle Class is somehow misguided and misinformed....So, lets set the "Small Town" (READ: Working Class) against the Middle Class and get them to fighting so they won't notice the difficulties in their lives, increases in commodity prices, loss of real wages, job security and erosion of opportunity. All this, so the REAL "Elites", the Corporatocricy and their wholly owned political operatives can maintain their hold on political power and keep feeding off of the taxpayers dollars.

If voting to bring fairness to the tax structure, behaving in accord with our established principles of human rights, civil rights and justice and bringing government resources to bear on large and complicated problems that put America at risk for exploitation by foreign powers (such as dependence on foreign oil and a huge national debt) then I guess I'm all for it. If you want to call it "Communism", you may. However, by doing so, you reveal that you do NOT have any sense of what "communism" is and what communists believe in. I WOULD submit that by your content and by using the arguments of the right that you are an advocate of FASCISM and support the trend of the Republican party toward establishing a FASCIST government in America.

I pity people like you. Selling your own future for a desperate sense of "belonging" to the Right. When it suits them, they'll throw you under the bus. Right now they need you, so be a good follower. Don't question.

[Fascism is a totalitarian nationalist political ideology and mass movement that is concerned with notions of cultural decline or decadence, and which seeks to achieve a millenarian national rebirth by exalting the nation or race, as well as promoting cults of unity, strength and purity.]

Palin is ignornant? I noticed in your little tirade that you didn't see fit to mention anything she specifically said that revealed ignorance. And before you start calling her "ignorant" you should check your own listening skills. She did not allude (not elude) to an idea that only republicans are dying in the war. You seem to be stuck in the democrat line that McCain is a continuation of Bush. This is based in ignorance if anything is. McCain hasn't voted for a tax increase in 26 years! That hardly makes him culpable (like your guy Biden is) for the growth of Government. Obama is the one promising MASSIVE government growth, so again your comment is incorrect, if not ignorant. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Yes, the deficit is out of control and WHO is in control of Congress? Hmmm? Democrats. Yes, Bush let them spend too much. But McCain is not Bush and anyone who says he's a continuation is either lying or woefully ignorant. And stop with the lying about Bush declaring we won the war. He NEVER said that. You are simply parroting the tired old lie that he meant that when he said "mission accomplished". The mission to unseat the world worst terrorist supporting regime and prevent it's aspirations for deadly weapons WAS accomplished. So dump the talking points inspired by a deeper ignorance than you accuse Palin of and level some REAL criticisms at them if you have them. I have some, but obviously Obama has MUCH more to criticize and question from his close ties with terrorists, serious felons, radical bigots and others that show his deep lack of judgement.

Further, department of commerce figures does

Palin is ignornant? I noticed in your little tirade that you didn't see fit to mention anything she specifically said that revealed ignorance.

It's not she that is necessarily ignorant. It's her speech writers. No wait. Let me try that again. It's not that she's ignorant, it's that her speech writers are dishonest. There, I think I got it right.

NUTS -Veteran here Korean, if we hadn't fought for your butt in WW11 and Korea you would be speaking German and Japanese, We said never again to the slaughter of 3 million Jews, you would rather make us wrong to have said never again. 150,000 dead Kurds gassed say I am right. Disgusted Veteran.

if we hadn't fought for your butt in WW11

There you go again same old republican bs... If we hadn't of..... My Grandfather fought in WWI came back wounded... Both of my Brothers fought in Korean and Vietnam "conflicts" not to mention the friends and fellow classmates who served in Vietnam I also have had several nephews and nieces who served in the military..... AND, ARE YOU READY FOR THIS, PROUD, HONEST AMERICANS, and democratic....... If it weren't for them... you wouldn't be able to be bogging!!!!

Wow i need to know what you are smoking, seems to be great at distorting reality...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO travlinman, you are tooooooooooooo funny!

A family the size of Palins? Whatever your views on the so-called Population Bomb, that's a pretty harsh, intolerant attack. Criticize her politics if you like, but these personal smears attacking her choice of family size, etc. is nauseating. Talk about tearing each other apart!!!

And you may want to check out Erhlich's predictions for what the population explosion was supposed to have happen. Like the Global Warming Chicken Littles, Paul Erhlich's predictions have all collapsed in a the history pile of armeggedon junk science.

We should start to eleviate the issue by not allowing so many more immigrants into this country. Some, yes, as always, but not in the streams we are allowing today and especially not the illegal ones. Projections have shown there will be serious, serious issues with food and water resources if this continues. We think we are helping the world by allowing record numbers to seek refuge here but it's like a grain of sand on a beach - a miniscule effect. In the meantime we are heading towards starving our kids. All these touchy feely social remedies need to be reality checked.

That's a big Oops!

I don't get it, repubs say yellow is black and AP says hold on, yellow is not black, it is hmm yellow and you say they are biased, be a big boy (or girl) and please tell me what was said there (the article) that wasn't true...

You amaze me, since when did telling truth with backup become a biased opinion? Your logic is deeply flawed, humor me.

Fine, I'll take your challenge!
First, does the title indicate any bias? Is it a fact-by-fact analysis of her claims and which are right or wrong or is it attempting to pick out only those things that support a leftist attack? The authors clear bias is blatant from the title.

Second, sources. The author picks sources sympathetic to his position. The Tax Policy Institute is HARDLY non-ideological! Cmon, supported by the Brookings Institute and the Urban Institute? That's SURE unbiased. Anything from a competing data source? Oopps guess not.

Third, the accomplishments list includes working with other senators? Are you serious? That was his JOB! Her statement was absolutely factual and a strained screeching stretch to say he helped on some legislation does more to support HER point than the authors!

Fourth, regarding her interaction with oil companies in Alaska, she has a great deal to claim credit for in her DIRECT negotiations with the oil companies! Yes, you could slice Alaskas size by looking at geography, as McCain did or by population as the author did. Geography is not unimportant and presents serious leadership challenges due to transportation issues, weather issues, various native populations, dangerous north slope issues, being miles from Russia, etc. McCains point is rock solid however you decide you want to slice the data. McCains point was, is and should be that her experience in leadership is vastly greatly than Obama's and that to discount it, like Obama and the leftist media and this author have, is dishonest in the extreme. If you want to slice it by population, fine - but the point still stands unopposed and once again, the articles author is shown to be working from extreme bias.

The question of the national guard the author makes is just laughable. A logical response to his argument is "so what?" No one ever claimed anything different and to suggest that McCain did anything misleading regarding this is bizzare. He didn't claim she commanded Guard units in Iraq! She didn't claim they never became federally active. And to point out the size of the guard is another "so what?" 4000 or 40,000 - whatever the number, the point is that she has experience Obama doesn't.

The other thing to point out is that McCain is clearly working with an agenda. That is obvious and expected and proper - he's running for office! What is striking in this article is the author pretends to be a journalist reporting. He pretends to be objective. That's the biggest joke here. The author writes in tone, style and biased content and tries to pass it off as journalism. That's the difference and the blatant dishonesty of this article.

I wonder if this author strained so hard to examine Obama's strange comments that he has executive experience because he is running for President? Now THAT'S a statement worth some analysis. So, you can get the executive experience simply by running a successful campaign? Doubtful we heard from this author in anything near the condescension he wrote in this article.

And let's be honest. Even IF the author had published the truth or made salient points, the truth can be spun to work an agenda. AP Authors should be ashamed of doing that, unless they are hired to editorialize.

My point stands. The author set out to attack her and McCain because of his clear and obvious bias, used major stretches and spin to sell his opinion and pretended to be objective.

Sir, Your article was well written in response to this free lance reporter, I can see that you out of many of the respondents have some intelligence, thank you I thought the whole country had become a bunch of ignorant citizens, glad you told it like it is. Former Democrat

It was a successful strategy in the 90s... when the middle class has more money, they spend more money and those small/mid sized companies have more customers.

That's a guaranteed fact... its human nature proven over 1000s of years.

What doesn't work is trickle down theory. Giving money to the top just makes the top fat and happy, they simply want more, the more you give them. Just look at CEO salaries over the past 8 years.

BTW, I'm a VP for one of those mid sized companies... execs are NOT sitting around wishing they made more money so they could trickle down their new found riches onto the hard working middle class.

pleas provide a full list of examples from both parties... thank you.

We produce more than we consume? Of what, besides hot air and bull$hit? Are we producing more clean air and water, more raw materials to fuel our lifestyles? You agree that the earth is limited but at the same time dismiss the inevitable result of exceeding that limit: We can't go on like this indefinitely; we can either plan for the inevitable or let it kick us in the ass.

Well now you start to mix up several things.
You mention the "dire predictions"....that's about as useful as predicting the winner of the lottery. I'm not interested in dire predictions. I'm interested in historical trends and facts. The historical record of the negative-growth-population crowd that you seem to be endorsing is awful. They are wrong almost all the time. So why should I pay attention to further dire predictions when their past is a wasteland of failed predictions and ideas?
Second, you admire the Chinese one-child policy? Sorry, I'm not real excited about using a totalitarian regime's social policy as a model for ours. I simply point out that China has used capitalism to grow their economy and that it has worked. Not so with their one-child policy. It has produced more social disfunction and disorder than anything since Maos purges. Third, why should you be concerned about her faith? Are you prejudiced against people of faith? I hope that's not what you're saying because that smacks of bigotry.

The concern about Gov. Palin's faith is that she seems all too eager to impose her religious taboos on everyone else.

I enjoyed Palin's speech. It was novel to hear the facts for once, and I have to say she added a great deal of vibrant energy to the recounting of them. It is pleasing to know that, whatever the outcome of the election, the body public knows of the facade that is Obama. He's not fooling anyone. You have to admit, he certainly tries.

I can't wait to see Palin eviscerate Obama in future news. It's sad that it's too late for Obama to actually do some work before running for President. I guess he was counting on the super-nice cover letter on his resume.

The facts? You mean the ones refuted by this article?

Facts, you have to be kidding there were no facts just BS. Former Democrat

If nobody believes that Obama was not part of the Chicago machine they have no idea how politics works here. Obama hides behind/ uses the excuse of" that was not the person i new... He used that with the Rev. and Rezko? I do believe in Change it is good.. only if it is change in the right direction.. it can not be if it is a candidate/party who continually purposes to support abortion rights. Yes, you can argue, that a person should be able to choose,but morally it is still wrong and that is where the left does not go, because they will lose the argument.
The democrats have always and will continue to use fear to keep people in there place. they want to help people but never to get them out of poverty, hand outs are good but do not give them to much they may actually not need the govt anymore if the become self sufficient. That sounds so much like socialism does it not...Remember this.. true freedom is not being able to do what you want, it is doing what you ought to be doing, thats when you are truly free. I believe the Dems have a good heart, but they are so miss guided as to the true definition of freedom,choice and thereby may never have an understanding of reality, philishopically and theologically.

Prove it. What's your source? I am referring to Obama's confessions in his memoirs. If McCain was a past abuser, you can bet it'd be all over the news. (The news won't cover in the case of their darling Obama, though, of course - what a surprise.) Let's see your facts... Or is that too "inconvenient" for you??

Ok, Michael Moore. Get back on the Bitter Bus to Lombard Street.