COLORADO SPRINGS — The banners, buttons and signs say McCain-Palin, but the crowds say something else.
"Sa-rah! Pa-lin!" came the chant at a Colorado Springs rally on Saturday moments before Republican nominee John McCain took the stage with Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a woman who was virtually unknown to the nation just a week earlier. The day before, thousands screamed "Sa-rah! Sa-rah! Sa-rah!" at an amphitheater outside Detroit.
"Real change with a real woman," read one sign at a Wisconsin rally. "Hurricane Sarah leaves liberals spinning," cried another.
In the short time since McCain spirited the 44-year-old first-term governor out of Alaska and onto a national stage as his running mate, Palin has become an instant celebrity. And since her speech at the Republican National Convention, watched by more than 40 million Americans, she is emerging as the main attraction for many voters at their campaign appearances.
"She's the draw for a lot of people," said Marilyn Ryman, who came to see her at the Colorado rally inside an airport hangar. "The fact that she's someone new, not the old everything we've seen before."
McCain has sought to portray Palin as a bulldog who will help him "shake things up" on Capitol Hill.
Washington, he said Saturday, is "going to get to know her, but I can't guarantee you they'll love her."
"We do!" came a cry from the crowd.
At a rally in Albuquerque later, McCain acknowledged the juice she has injected into his campaign.
"The response to her has been overwhelming, it's been incredible," he said.
Perhaps recognizing the excitement she is generating, the McCain campaign was planning to keep Palin with McCain for several more days, rather than dispatch her to campaign by herself, as had initially been discussed.
On Saturday, McCain and Palin rode their post-convention wave into the competitive West, where Democrats have made recent gains in traditional Republican strongholds.
After a day of talking up economic themes in the Midwest, the pair attracted thousands at a rally in Colorado Springs, a city at the foot of Pike's Peak that is home to many conservatives and military families.
It was McCain's first appearance in Colorado since the Democrats had their convention in Denver last month.
Both campaigns consider the battleground state in play with the election less than two months away.
"Colorado, it's going to be a hard-fought battle here," Palin said. As soon as she began speaking, a group of supporters interrupted her with a cheer of "Sa-rah! Sa-rah!"
Palin is even getting the star treatment from celebrity magazines, Web sites and television programs, which have played up her personal story as a mother of five children, one of whom is 17 years old, unmarried and pregnant.
The excitement with which people are turning out to see Palin could complicate a key line of attack that the McCain campaign has been building against Democrat Barack Obama for months.
Republicans have sought to cast Obama's support as nothing more than shallow adoration and hype befitting a movie star. They have mocked his appeal among Hollywood types and compared his star status to that of lightweights like Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. They say there is nothing of substance to back up the candidacy of the Illinois senator.
Palin herself asked in her convention speech what happens "when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot — what exactly is our opponent's plan?"
Obama has been careful in his comments about her, saying Saturday that she has flip-flopped on spending earmarks, but also calling her a "skillful politician."
While campaigning in New Mexico, which is shaping up to be another competitive state, Palin and McCain staged their own Hollywood-like entrance at a rally.
After a rousing introduction by actor Robert Duvall, McCain and Palin made their entrance by bounding off a "Straight Talk Express" bus that drove straight into the rally's convention hall, underneath a giant America flag that was raised like a curtain.
As a delighted crowd screamed its approval, the rally was clouded by either exhaust or stage smoke.
Voters interviewed at rallies said their support for McCain has been cemented with his pick of Palin, who is a social conservative and reassures many who were wary about McCain on those issues.
Patricia Hoskins said she was already backing McCain but that Palin "really lit the fire under me."
And in the brief time that McCain and Palin have been campaigning since she introduced herself to the nation, many women at their events have said they identify with her personal struggles.
"She's every mom," said Lindsey Denny, a mother of 7, including a set of quintuplets, two of whom have special needs like Palin's infant son with Down syndrome. Denny said Palin's inclusion on the ticket was "110 percent" the reason why she went to see her Saturday.
I bet the wackos at Focus onthe Family love having Palin there. She's right up their alley. McCain/Palin bringing wacko christians groups together. How heart warming.
What do you mean?
I dislike to have US Senators for President. Therefore, I am voting for Sarah and of course that John McCain understood that he had to bring someone else to the tickec. My candidate lost, Romney, but.....he could get worst reviews, no matter what it's a catch 22.
The only woman that ever had a chance to be in the WH is Hillary and you saw what happened. This is not going to be a copycat.
No offense to the gentlemen here but we, ladies, are multitask and get things done.
its true ladies are better at multitasking then most dudes, although im not sure what multitasking has to do with this thread???
and anyway she will be multitasking and getting the wrong things done!
doing something just for the sake of doing it is worthless, especially in now!
No offense to the gentlemen here but we, ladies, are multitask and get things done.
Multitasking a wanting to burn books, say that abstinence only education works when your own teen daughter is pregnant?
No disrespect to any woman. But Sarah Palin is not a PERSON that I want leading this nation.
"Wackos at Focus on the Family???"
I'm sorry - fighting to keep marriages together must be an atrocity in your book.
Raising children to be confident and independent must really cause problems for you.
Seeking to help men stop looking at porn and start spending time as a father and husband must just be idiotic to you.
So is your problem what they do? Or is it who inspired them to do it?
I don't need to believe that there is some ficticious guy in the sky to be a good person. I can just be a good person. I can teach my children to be respectful, kind to people and animals, confident, independent, non-judgemental, and many more good qualities (too many to name) without scaring them into it. I don't need to threaten them with eternal damnation. Focus on the Family uses scare tactics in their teachings and are some of the most judgemental people I have ever met. The hipocrisy runs deep. Reference: Ted Harrard.
Religous people aren't the only "good" people in the world. I didn't have a child out of wedlock. I have been happily married for 15 years. My husband and I have mutual respect for each other and have 2 great kids with great grades and are also good people. Some how we were able to do all that without believing in the big guy in the sky.
After reviewing my post I do want to apologize to all of the religious people who are unable to make through life without the help of your God. It is disrespectful of me to cast judgement on you. We are not all the same. Just because I don't need the crutch of religion to help me I should not assume that is the same for everyone. I apologize.
But Focus on the Family in my humble oppinion is pretty scary.
Of course Palin can multitask. She has demonstrated her ability to lobby Washington for more federal earmarks while at the same time using the power of the Governor's office to conduct a vendetta with her ex-brother-in-law and maintaining a perfectly discreet liaison with a gentleman friend while her husband was away on the oil-rigs. (Oh, think that last is just another false rumor? Well, National Enquirer is on the story, and as we know, they may be sleazy, but when they get people on stories like that they usually have them dead to rights! BTW, her alleged boyfriend has just asked for an emergency order to have his divorce papers sealed).
Focus on the family? Are they not the ones that prayed for rain at the end of the DNC? Can someone ask them to stop?
On Chris Matthews Show they just referred to Palin as a modern Norma Rae!
Are you freakin' kiddin' me? Who is more anti-union than the Republicans?
The people of this country have gone around the bend.
So let me get this str8... she's a likely Adulterer just like John McCain???
...and the Plot Thickens!...
So much for good old Republican Family Values.
btw, interestin how everyone isn't calling the GOP hypocrites for claiming that Obama is an inexperienced celeb, after they've gone and picked an even younger, bigger celebrity to be #2 to a Septuagerian with recurring serious health problems.
Well, is like this.
Having three US Senators that had been the cause of gridlock in our Congress, that each of the 100 had been in a tug war and don't even thinking that we pay for their salaries kept me very upset and ready not to vote this year.
Then...came Romney....and he lost.
The point of Sara Palin is that she is someone new and I want to give her the benefit of the doubt. Am I happy about the circumstances of two teenagers that don't know how to put their act together and now are ready to be parents? No. However, my friends kept the Down Syndrome babies. One of them with the most beautiful cerulean color eyes that one can imagine knew that I liked her, got my pinkie and walked me around. Who is not soft about that little angel.
At this moment there are 30 lawyers digging in Wasilia. Good, the more that they find the less that I care and this is what the other side of the aisle don't get it.
About Oprah. She had been doing a lot of good and inviting Sarah is not going to shift the balance one way or other. Oprah is committed to elect Obama and is her preference, she invested a lot of money in his campaign. Oprah is a sharp business woman and of course that if Obama is elected he will have a long list of due pay.
One of my kids called me yesterday and discussed the political campaigns and she was laughing telling me that I became a pragmatic Mom. Well, I don't dare to look at the dictionary to read what she meant.
Maybe McCain' s strategy is to let Palin "overshadow"him. It's risky, but it does take the spotlight off a 72 year-old with a medical history of recurrent cancer.
The point of Sara Palin is that she is someone new and I want to give her the benefit of the doubt...
At this moment there are 30 lawyers digging in Wasilia. Good, the more that they find the less that I care and this is what the other side of the aisle don't get it.
So actually, you want to give her the benefit of complete and blind loyalty. Apparently, you have no idea what "give her the benefit of the doubt" means in English.
Well, I don't dare to look at the dictionary to read what she meant.
A telling anecdote about your general thought process: ignorance is bliss, and you're proud of it.
determined0a1
The point of Sara Palin is that she is someone new and I want to give her the benefit of the doubt...
So actually, you want to give her the benefit of complete and blind loyalty. Apparently, you have no idea what "give her the benefit of the doubt" means in English
Yes Jack...much like you giving a relatively new, inexperienced and previously unknown [in other than Illinois] Obama your blind loyalty and complete bliss. You can be proud as well.
He's [Obama] actually running at the top of the ticket. What a chutzpah he has!
Yes Jack...much like you giving a relatively new, inexperienced and previously unknown [in other than Illinois] Obama your blind loyalty and complete bliss. You can be proud as well.
My, are you confident in your mental vomit. Nice of you to omit the part where det is proudly proclaiming that she doesn't care what anyone finds out about Palin, because Palin is awesomeness incarnate. After all, you can't let facts get in the way of poking at liberals, right?
I actually supported McCain before he turned into a Bush clone, but right now, Obama is the far lesser of two evils.
Obama's personal integrity is still intact, at least, unlike wife-abandoning veteran-dismissing torture-happy McCain.
I'm not an Obama supporter, so don't think that I'm crying foul here. I'm voting for whatever 3rd party gets on the ballot here. No third party can ever get traction unless it gets votes, so I'm not wasting my vote. I'm investing in 3rd parties.
Sneaky Karl Rove knows what he's doing.
His intention is to get the female Democrats who voted for Clinton to express their anger over her loss by voting for a bimbo who would be a disaster even if all she did was cut ribbons - all because she's a woman.
Don't think with your brain. Think with your knee-jerk emotion.
You can't possibly REALLY believe that if she were to become President that she would know her ass from a hole-in-the-ground! The Big Business / Lobbyist cabal got us where we are at present, so where do you think it will take us when someone wet-behind-the-ears who hasn't even gotten off the porch, let alone gone around the block, sits in the Oval Office.
ALL politicians are liars. ALL of them.
But She Didn't
Sarah Palin gave quite a speech and as her adoring family looked on,
I could smell the "baby powder sweet scent" of precious little Trig through my HDVTV.
For a few minutes it was magnificent. She was good. I thought I might get to know her.
I had read about much of her history and should have known better than to try,
but that new baby smell was so strong!
All too quickly her words changed and the nauseating odor of our decaying culture
permeated the airwaves.
The soiled diaper tossed in an overflowing pail...or Palin?
Sarah Palin, devout mother of a pregnant teenage daughter and a special needs child had an unimaginable opportunity last evening to raise the platform of
Matthew 7:1 Judge, Not Lest You Be Judged.
Actually, she had 40 million opportunities.
She could have demanded that if many insist "all babies" have a right-to-life, then the Religious Right must carry the banner of affordable healthcare to protect these babies, when a Mother's womb no longer keeps her children healthy and nourished.
But she didn't. She chose to care only about feeding insults to the frenzied crowd.
She could have pointed to her "perfectly beautiful" infant with a call to arms for improving the lives of the differently-abled. Talk about the changes she initiated in Alaska, including, naturally the 20% cut in services to unwed mothers and special need adults.
About refusing to ever allow funding cuts that make the lives of these families
"perfectly heartbreaking."
But she didn't, she chose only to perfect the tired, childish rhetoric of self-serving politicians.
She should have followed her battle cry that the children of small towns disproportionately fight and die in wars, with the pronouncement that they often enlist because of poor education or job opportunities in those same small towns. Education reform and job training could have been the next troops she mobilized.
But she didn't, she chose to arm her soldiers with bickering and attack the media and liberals as blogging terrorists.
She could have refused to rely on middle school, pep rally name calling and demanded, as a maverick might, that as women and mothers we have no time left for this nonsense and vitriol because our children are suffering all over the planet. She could have taught her daughters and the world's daughters that enough time has been wasted on hatred and destruction. She could have put her party on notice that our country is in turmoil and we can no longer assume sarcasm and one liners change lives for the good. That we must work together as patriots not partisans. That she will be the Washington D.C. Hockey Mom/VP that demands mutual respect and sportsmanship, not the snarling pit bull behaviors of bitter rivals.
But she didn't. She chose to teach that party loyalty defeats personal integrity.
Community organizers change lives and every church mission group, or volunteer in a soup kitchen, or Meals on Wheels chairperson, or Doctors Without Borders participant should be disappointed by her disrespect.
Women should be disappointed that she spent our emotional currency so carelessly.
She could have changed, if only for a moment, politics as we know it……but she chose not to.
Sarah Palin, tightly strung like an expensive puppet, talked the talk of a reformer,
but refused to walk the talk of a stateswoman.
She was "big hat…no cattle!"
And John McCain, a hero, who stared down torture at the brutal hand's of the North Vietnamese, was too weak to endure the verbal abuse and threats of bigoted hate-monger,
Rush Limbaugh.
The POW camp broke his arms and his thirst for power broke his soul.
Leadership. Mavericks. Courageous. Profile's in courage….
No So Much.
all4peace,
That's some fantastic writing. I wish more Americans had your level of perception and ability to comunicate.
All4Peace, You nailed it. She proved herself to be a typical politician and it just sickened me. The one-liner zingers were attention getting theatrics and she proved she is as tough as "one of the boys". SNL could easily cast her. She is a parody all by herself. She talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.
gp~~~~Yes Jack...much like you giving a relatively new, inexperienced and previously unknown [in other than Illinois] Obama your blind loyalty and complete bliss. You can be proud as well.
~~~~My, are you confident in your mental vomit. Nice of you to omit the part where det is proudly proclaiming that she doesn't care what anyone finds out about Palin, because Palin is awesomeness incarnate. After all, you can't let facts get in the way of poking at liberals, right?I actually supported McCain before he turned into a Bush clone, but right now, Obama is the far lesser of two evils.Obama's personal integrity is still intact, at least, unlike wife-abandoning veteran-dismissing torture-happy McCain.
That's not a condition I'm familiar with...but you're bringing it up sounds like you have had some 1st hand personal experience with it.
This could pass as an example:
I actually supported McCain before he turned into a Bush clone, but right now, Obama is the far lesser of two evils.
Obama's personal integrity is still intact, at least, unlike wife-abandoning veteran-dismissing torture-happy McCain
but you're bringing it up sounds like you have had some 1st hand personal experience with it.
Well, I am talking to you firsthand.
This could pass as an example:
Oh? I simply pointed out that you tried to lie by omission, and tried to lie about my views.
Feel free to inject substance into your rhetoric at any time. Take your time.
Well, I am talking to you firsthand.
It's good you notice that....it's the 1 st step on the road to recovery from your self invented psychosis
I simply pointed out that you tried to lie by omission, and tried to lie about my views.
I hope that's helpful to you.
Take your time.
Sure....I can suffer you......for a while.
Sigh, more of the same rhetorical bile. You apparently take pride in lying your way through life, so I'll leave you to your masturbatory merriment.
are u havin fun, gpnavonod??
Lmao
i told my mom that this pick was political pandering to its core and that it would back fire on McCain and now i see that coming to fruition.. as i watched the RNC i saw that Palin was stealing the show from McCain.. not that it was much of a show to begin with.. and i could help but laugh at how silly it was,
between the newfound Republican message of change (idk how the incumbent party can be the change) and the rediculous chant of "drill baby drill"
maybe i'm just a kid and dont understand, but how can people actually buy into any of the bull @!$%# the Republicans are spewing out anymore??
McCain/Palin or Palin/McCain, either way that ticket scares me!
Vote real change Vote Obama/Biden
There are 30 LAWYERS in Wasilia ONLY to dissect Sarah.
Bring 'em on!
Al Gore brought 50 and he lost.
i dont understand how this is relevent to my comment??
i dont understand how this is relevent to my comment??
That is because it is not relevant to your comment or anything else.
i thought not! it doesnt make any sense here, so
thank you
Actually, JOG ON!, no fanatic ever does.
I guess, I'd try looking up the term "authoritative personality" and go from there if you're really curious about what's going on with the "crazy adults" right now. I'd also keep talking to your mom too because if you two are talking politics (most likely during or just after the news it sounds like) dude, at the risk of sounding dated: ROCK ON!!!!
yes i would say that dates you considerable but its all good.
and i actually bring up poloitics as often as i can, but you are correct in you're assumption that it is frequently after watching a political speach or other forms of political news
I'm glad to know that someone else saw this. It was hilarious! She went on and on and McCain just stood there like a doofus. It looked as though SHE was the one running for president.
i know! he got what he wanted by picking her though, IMHO he wanted a stake in this historical election! (other than his age) it seams to me that McCain is a very jealous man, one of those "im gonna get what i want no matter what" types. that scares me! i think that even at his age he is too immature to be Prez. but thats just me
Actually, Jog, having grown up and lived in Arizona all my life, I'd say you pretty much nailed it as far as McCain's personality goes. He's always been like that for as long as I can remember. In fact, I remember being told by adults when I was a teenager and brought up the same observation: "He's- well, he's allowed to be a little selfish because he's a vet and a POW."
Funny how while some things may date us old fogies while others just keep being in style, isn't it? :)
funny, and also encouraging!
its good to know that this movment goes beyond age!
it also goes way beyond race, and religion, and many other stereotypes but age seems most approprate
Sick'N'Tired'Of'It
"In fact, I remember being told by adults when I was a teenager and brought up the same observation: "He's- well, he's allowed to be a little selfish because he's a vet and a POW."
We've gotten entirely too mamby-pamby when it comes to our leadership candidates, don't you think? I would look at that statement and, given Mr. McCain's history, would estimate that this man has probably never heard the word "no" or what it means. Which is a good thing when you're trying to survive hellaciously inhumane treatment, but not such a good thing when it comes to retaliation with a red button.
As for Ms. Palin, I see things this simply; she's lied to us already and is not even close to office yet, so what does that say about this "reformer"? These politicians need to stop the spin and start with the conversation.
I think it is Palin/McCain. I don't like Sarah Palin at all. I don't understand how she can sit there and tell the same lies that have already been debunked over and over again.
same lies that have already been debunked over and over again
It's a Republican political trick, if you say it often enough it becomes truth, at least in their own eyes, Bush/Cheney have the patient on it.
sadly its true
and now they cant even stand on there own platforms
its been this way all election though so idk why im surprised
Obama tells america what he wants to do to help us.. and McCain comes out and says it wont work!
now its "if you want real change vote McCain!"
its laughable really.. how he is so willing to give up on his "experience"
He would gladly give up the "Experience" card to Palin...He's pandering to weak-minded individuals. I just cant understand why would these same individuals consistently vote AGAINST the improvement of their own economy. They would rather have a blundering, feeble-minded, self-serving old man and a verbal puppet lady from Alaska running this country. Truly sad.
It's not voting against the economy if you know the other side is going to do just as bad. I just can't understand how politicians can preach things that are fundamentally contrary to sound economic practice. The American economy has shown to be amazingly resilient even with fools blundering with it. And don't think politicians make economic policy because they think it's best for America -- nope, they make their policy to be self-serving.
However, I would agree that the Republicans could have come up with a much better ticket. Though I'm a little bit late on the information, from what I've learned of Ron Paul, he might have actually made a true Conservative.
Yes, this explains why the GOP chose Palin in the first place. They knew Mc Cain's awkward speaking style and creepy, overused fake smile pale to Obama's charisma. So they got someone flashy who can actually do a half decent job of delivering a Rove Corp. speech to breathe some life into their debilitated campaign. Two boring old (white) guys just wasn't gonna cut it.
she isnt even that good of an orator! McCain is just such a terrible speaker that she seems that much better!
i personally cant stand listening to her, i feel like she isnt talking to me. like im not good enough for her to speak to.. idk thats just the feeling i get when she speaks
Oh yeah, I totally agree. I said in another thread that the guy who called in to C-SPAN's Washington Journal and said Palin was as eloquent as Obama is not from "Red America" or "Blue America", but from "Stupid America". I think her whiny, "PTA Mom" tone is very shrill, strident and grating. It will get old fast. I'm pretty sure she's headed back to Alaska after this election is over, so hopefully we won't have to listen to her for 4 years.
agreed, Obama uses some big words and very eloquent speach indeed, but somehow through it all he just seems like one of us. its as if he understands, and i think he does!
she isnt even that good of an orator! McCain is just such a terrible speaker that she seems that much better!
i personally cant stand listening to her, i feel like she isnt talking to me. like im not good enough for her to speak to.. idk thats just the feeling i get when she speaks
Fine, there are remedial classes for delivering PPS presentations and speeches.
Sarah is not talking to you she is convincing voters like me that was refusing to go to the electoral college.
i would hope that as a candidate to be the next Vice Prez. she would be talking to every american... i guess im somehow mistaken on that one... explain to me why this is please
and how long have you been on first name basis with Mrs. Palin?? just curious
Don't let determined0a1 fool you guys, she has been anti Obama since day 1. The epitome of GOP ideology, she is. She was never on the fence, and needed no convincing.
Fine, there are remedial classes for delivering PPS presentations and speeches.
There are also remedial classes that teach you the difference between PPS and PPT. That being said, McCain needs one of those classes badly. Apparently, he can barely maintain enough concentration to effec. Tively. Read. A. Tele. Prompter. Even. Half. Way. Through. A. Speech.
Sarah is not talking to you she is convincing voters like me that was refusing to go to the electoral college.
Ummmm FYI: we don't get a choice in "refusing to go to the electoral college." Don't you know anything about how presidential elections work?
Seriously, even completely random comments are easier on the eyes than completely idiotic comments.
ahahahaha
You seem smart. Do you know if they are offering any scholarships to the electorial college?
because too many people still buy the lies! its as simple as that, i mean, it makes sense, why stop what you're doing if what you're doing works. the problem is that actually governing takes a back seat to winning the election for the repubs, it seams to me that they only care about themselves and the problems that they have caused this country are meaningless.
its disgusting i know but its the america we have today, but we cannot afford it anymore
Jog,
No, we can't. Another fact for Obama, in my opinion is that even though the Hard Right may laugh at it but he spent years working with the poor- this means that, at the very least he knows them, he has met them and is fully aware of the difficulties that the "lower-classes" face, the RNC on the other hand have obviously never even met one as is evidenced by their current "golden-boy" McCain, who was on the front lawn of the White House literally eating CAKE as New Orleans drowned and probably STILL doesn't even know how many houses he owns!
It would seem self-evident which of these two is REALLY in touch with the middle-class, but...
(Fanatics!)
PS, I'd also seriously suggest reading 1984 if you haven't already as it's become VERY current with it's content lately:)
thanks sick ill be sure to do that
PALIN/ROVE NOT MCCAN/PALIN
Same evil, just different names.
Ok, you have to remember that the by line of this article says Colorado Springs, a HEAVILY evangelical area. These are the people that hate McCain and Palin has given them a reason to be enthusiastic about voting again. I don't think this necessarily reflects the rest of the country or the more moderate republicans.
LOL Why Don't all you Palin Loving persons Just wait until she is out there by herself. No one to write her answers. You will see what happens to her. It will not be NICE.
doc - Did you even read my comment? I was trying to put some perspective into why people in this article might be reacting this way... not that I love Palin!
Yes I agree with you. My statement wasn't meant to say that you were the Palin loving person.
This may work to McCain's benefit, or it may not. Remember how Prince Charles reacted when he realized that his pretty young wife was much more popular with the public than he was.
no.. i dont.. im much too young for such talk.
how did he react?
Well, he was openly resentful, though who could blame him when he was the heir to the throne and people were acting disappointed to see him instead of Diana? It didn't help their always-shaky relationship to develop in a healthy way. Instead, it sent him right back into the adulterous arms of Camilla Parker-Bowles.
Instead, it sent him right back into the adulterous arms of Camilla Parker-Bowles.
Ugly is as ugly does. ;-)
Honestly, Camilla over Diana? WTF?
Jack: Well, forgive me God for dissing the dead, but Diana was a pretty high-maintenance drama queen.
But she has staff to high-maintain her! :-p
Good point!
Elements of Pakistan's security and intelligence forces are supporting and harboring Osama Bin Laden. If you need to be reminded, Bin Laden is the primary mastermind behind 9/11. President Bush did say that he would go after terrorists and their supporters no matter where they were. The problem with Iraq is there was, Hussein was not supporting Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda was not in Iraq. Barack Obama is only doing what President Bush said he was going to do, hasn't done, isn't doing. Iraq was the wrong war and the wrong enemy. Iran, Lebanon, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Egypt, Yemen, Oman, and Palestine are the keys to ending fundamentalist terrorism. But I agree, I think it's time that we start hurting these countries financially. Complete and total isolation. Trade, energy, education, and travel...completely shut them down. Force their citizens to make the difficult call and rise against these extremist. Wage a publicity campaign against them like never seen before. Now as far as the Republican party is concerned. Let me quote a title President Ronald Reagan when he was making references to the Soviet Union...The Republican Party is the new "Evil Empire" and Joe Lieberman and the Republican Party are the new Axis of Evil!
You're totally off topic here. However, briefly in response, a lot of people think that the men who own the military industrial complex were the masterminds behind 9-11, not Osama Bin Laden. He's just the patsy! I spoke to someone who has a friend that worked as a locksmith at the World Trade Center. For several months before 9-11, he was forbidden from entering a large section of floors in the middle of the building. Since when do you lock out the locksmith? Coincidence?
I especially like the points in this article:
"The excitement with which people are turning out to see Palin could complicate a key line of attack that the McCain campaign has been building against Democrat Barack Obama for months."
"Republicans have sought to cast Obama's support as nothing more than shallow adoration and hype befitting a movie star. They have mocked his appeal among Hollywood types and compared his star status to that of lightweights like Paris Hilton and Britney Spears."
What are a lot of people doing now towards Sarah Palin? She's attracting a lot of people to come out to her speeches. It's hypocritical for the Republicans to say that Obama has star status. So is Palin.
I think some of the Palin enthusiasm will wear off as people get to know her and she ceases to be "news". I also think she may fire up the base - but the base alone won't get you elected. It's how she plays to the middle that matters - and right now that's Obama territory. But who knows, they're fickle. Palin may change that and surprise us all.
Not counting on it though.
The base especially won't get you elected in a year when most indicators suggest that your base is shrinking. This has been a bad year for Republican registration and voter identification polls. If that's what McCain is relying on Palin for, he's fighting a losing battle.
If he had picked a centrist choice, and decided to run a centrist campaign, then I would be worried.
If that's what McCain is relying on Palin for, he's fighting a losing battle.
McCain launched Sarah Palin for 2012. He never had a chance vs Obama and I already accepted that he will be our new President.
None of the Republican women that were suggested could make the difference like the Gov Palin. I don't think that she is "new". Sarah is ambitious and made hard decisions in her life. And there is no connection between McCain and Bush. McCain exasperated my patience many times and I let him know.
One thought that stroke me today about Obama is that he said that he did not put on w/take off and landings, airline food and hotels More or Less) to finish in second place. This time I believed the Dem nominee that he was telling as it is.
It's obvious. McCain talks about how great his vice president is as a leader, whereas Obama talks about how his vice president will support him as the leader.
I think it would also help McCain if he talked about his policies.....not just try and trash Obama's (even though it will be McCain's position in 2 weeks)
i swear i have been telling people that for a month now!
i'd like to hear about how he would be different that Bush
even though i know ill never hear such things
Duh.. don't you know yet? Per McCain's camp, this election is not about issues. Why would they consider wasting energy on something that does not matter (to them atleast)?
The problem with this whole thing is that when some people go to the polls in November, they will be voting for Palin as if she was the one running for President. I'm hoping this political stunt backfires on them big time.
i think it will
she undercuts his message of experience, which he evidentally knows. why else would he suddenly be the candidate for change??
The problem with this whole thing is that when some people go to the polls in November, they will be voting for Palin as if she was the one running for President.
Where is the problem? We have two choices to pick.
I'm hoping this political stunt backfires on them big time
Nah.
The sad thing is McCain will problably die of a stroke or heart attack and all you will is Palin.
Then.....the liberals and Dems could learn how to pray hard to keep McCain going.
no thanks.. i would prefer haveing a Prez who's life is not in question before he even takes office!
i would prefer haveing a Prez who's life is not in question before he even takes office!
Realistically
That man...... or woman.... does not exist. Anyone who does exist today...may not tomorrow.
Regardless of how healthy they may appear at the moment.
gpnavonod,
I've got a scenario for you.
McCain/Palin win.....McCain has a heart attack...Palin is then President.
Obama/Biden win....Obama gets assassinated...Biden is then President.
Of the 2 VP potentials, which would you be more comfortable with to run this country as President because of their background with Washington and give your reasons.........Just curious
Why would you use "assassination" for Senator Obama? Not a good example. You could have said what if he gets killed in an airplane crash or car accident.
Using a heart attack is not good either for Senator McCain. McCain's mom is still living and she is certainly old, old. She is in her 90s. McCain could very well live to be her age.
Just thought you could have given us a less dramatic scenario.
Using a heart attack is not good either for Senator McCain. McCain's mom is still living and she is certainly old, old. She is in her 90s. McCain could very well live to be her age.
Except that McCain is a cancer survivor -- surviving skin cancer, one of the most damaging forms of cancer.
That being said, McCain's mom is amazingly sprightly for her age. Did you see her jump up out of her seat during the RNC? Remarkable.
yes his mother is still living and quite active, but didnt his father die before he reached McCain's current age?
dkaz@gpnavonod,
I've got a scenario for you.
McCain/Palin win.....McCain has a heart attack...Palin is then President.
Obama/Biden win....Obama gets assassinated...Biden is then President.
Of the 2 VP potentials, which would you be more comfortable with to run this country as President because of their background with Washington and give your reasons.........Just curious
" Sez the cat"......Ok,I'll play:...............I don't care for Biden...Never did.
As far as a tradegy senerio....I think Sarah will make a good president...and a woman will run this country...which is about time.
She has better experience in running a state than either Hillary or Barack.
[if you don't count Hillary's 8 years in Bill's Whitehouse bed .......infulencing him]
Ok?
Satisfied?
[ LoL....And will be the best looking female head of state........ since Cleopatra!]
Lin Nil-435903, Jack Huang & JOG ON!,
Please don't think I'm being rude, but I was directing my scenario to gpnavonod and gpnavonod only. It is his answer I am seeking.
As far as my scenario is concerned, does the name Abe or JFK ring a bell?
Didn't FDR have polio that he hid and Reagan had the beginning stages of Alzheimer's?
Don't think for one minute that what I asked gpnavonod can't possibly happen. Anything can happen to any 4 of those people. And if you, Lin Nil can't see that, then you are a very narrow minded not to mention blind individual.
gpnavonod,
Okay. I got my answer. That's all I wanted was your opinion. I'm sorry if these other 3 people got in the way. But that's to be expected of rudeness. I was always taught to speak only to those who are speaking to you. And not to butt in to other peoples conversations whether you agree with them or not. But this is a prime example as to why I don't come into articles such as these. I will be a one hit wonder and that's it.
Thank you for your time and enjoy yourself. I'm going back and talk about sex and getting laid. It's much more fun. Less hassle.
@dkaz
I get screwed here on a regular basis.....you get numb to it after a while..... and have to switch to the lighter fun side of Newsvine.
LoL.......We can all "let it go" on those seeds.
Why is this country like this? It's like partisan bickering is part of our culture, Palin just an embodiment of this. She's either a compulsive liar or just a really stupid person who likes to win (either way that makes for a "good" republican candidate).
Well, as usual, when you don't have anything productive to say, resort to name calling and insults. Very mature behavior.
Me thinks the Obamacrats dost protest too much.
He who yells first, loses the argument.
Well, as usual, when you don't have anything productive to say, resort to name calling and insults. Very mature behavior.
Yeah, we should promote the person who thinks burning books = good. We don't need that silly freedom of speech thing. Her ideology of abstinence only sex education does work great!
People are protesting because they don't want a backwards nation.
Well, as usual, when you don't have anything productive to say, resort to name calling and insults. Very mature behavior.
If she had listed any actual policies to critique I would do so. As it stands now, she just dupes people. What other assertions could I make about her given what she's said?
"Well, as usual, when you don't have anything productive to say, resort to name calling and insults" (per Cathy)
You mean like Palin has since her first speech? All I have heard spewed from her mouth are insults and name calling. Same goes for McCain. I have yet to hear anything productive come from either of them. They are two peas in a pod. Both are vindictive and mean. The nickname barracuda suits her well.
"Sa-rah! Pa-lin!" "Sa-rah! Sa-rah! Sa-rah!" ...chants Hanna-girl.
were you chanting "drill baby drill" as well??
I think she was chanting I don't like change, I want someone else in control of my body, I want someone else to make choices for me. Were is the nurturing spirit of Mrs. Appalling Palin. She is EXTREME CONSERVATIVE. She's stand for one type of person and she is not at all diversified in any aspect. I'm from a City not a small town and she is not speaking to me. The woman flat out lied about opposing the bridge to nowhere. Palin supported it in the beginning. When it went haywire that's when she changed her view. People already trust this woman and everytime she breaths she lies. Watch the debate. The truth will be told. The truly sad disgusting thing is people will still vote for her. How can you not vote for a person who wants your daugthers to get equal and your sons? How? When people say it makes no sense.... Really it makes no sense. Unless it's because Barack Obama is African American. Oh and white too which republicans never EVER mention. At the most he represents all people not just some. He's talking to all people and doesn't single anyone out. But that's the whole point of McCain/Appallin they want to single people out.
You know, on the pro-life issue, some people want to make a choice AFTER they screw up and others want to make a choice BEFORE they screw up. The difference is that in one case a baby dies and in the other, the baby usually makes it into the world where yet ANOTHER choice can be made, whether to raise the child or to give it up for adoption to someone else who is waiting for the opportunity to love the baby.
I'm pro-choice too, only I choose to make my choice about what to do if I get pregnant (and yes, even if it's the result of a rape situation) BEFORE the situation occurs. I choose LIFE, therefore my CHOICE is to be PRO-LIFE.
If you are PRO-CHOICE you are really PRO-ABORTION. The abortionists and the folks at Planned Parenthood are just trying to make you feel better about those choosing abortion by calling it a choice. Good luck deluding yourselves with guilt-assuaging poor synonyms. The scientists all agree that life begins at conception. When it becomes viable is a matter for discussion, but when a child is conceived, it IS alive. There is no denying that. Lucky for each one of you reading this, you have already been given the benefit of surviving the pro-choice culture of death, unlike over 45+ million other unborn children who have been aborted since the 1973 Roe v Wade decision. They weren't so lucky.
So don't criticize VP nominee Palin or PRES nominee McCain either one for their pro-life positions. They know where and why they stand on this issue and I agree with their position and will be voting for them in November for this reason and for many other good reasons.
The black community deserves a better candidate than Barack Obama. You can't just smile pretty and regurgitate a speech written by some speech writer and hope that's all there is to being the president of the United States. You've got to have some actual real life experience to do the job. George W. Bush was the Governor of Texas and a military pilot and a business owner before he became president. He's not eloquent by any means, but he is a leader. What has Obama really done? And the saddest thing of all is that Obama could have written his own ticket after graduating from college. But he chose to basically do very little really and it shows. Too bad. If Obama goes down in flames this fall, it will make it more difficult for the next black candidate to generate this kind of enthusiasm in the near future, unless of course, the next black candidate is a REPUBLICAN. Then you will see a really strong black presidential candidate, just like our current really strong REPUBLICAN female VP candidate is now. The truth is that the Republican party, the party of Lincoln, is the party that fought for the abolition of slavery and won. It's a shame that the voters don't remember that little factoid.
Yes, the Republicans will vote for minorities and women, easily, as long as they are men and women of character and intelligence and integrity. I've seen it at the grass roots level and I know that it will happen at the national level too. I was ready to vote for Elizabeth Dole over 20 years ago and I voted for Alan Keyes in the primary back in '92, simply because he was such a strong pro-life candidate and I wanted to make a statement with my vote. Racism and sexism have no place in politics. I'm not against Obama because of his racial background. I'm against him because of his inexperience and his far left liberal political views. I think he's a dangerous choice and I am campaigning for McCain to win as a result. Our country needs change in Washington and Obama is not a change. In fact, Obama is more of the same that is the worst thing about our political representation; he has been put into his political positions more by the manipulations of the Chicago electorate and by legal wrangling rather than by just running a straight forward campaign and winning with a majority of the votes in a fair competition. What kind of election is it when the other candidates are systematically eliminated from the ballot so that the only choice left is Obama or a write in? Must be nice to have friends and lawyers to help you get what you want if you can't just win by playing fair and square.
"You've got to have some actual real life experience to do the job. George W. Bush was the Governor of Texas and a military pilot and a business owner before he became president. He's not eloquent by any means, but he is a leader"
ya great freakin example.. look where his "experience" has gotten us
...drill for oil? YES! Shouldn't we USE the resources that God gave us to USE when He created the Earth?
"How can you not vote for a person who wants your daugthers to get equal and your sons? How?"
Consciousness444...what are you talking about?
but at what expense??
yes here's a thought! lets ruin nature and worsen global climate change (warming) whatever u want to call it. for oil that might not even be there and if it is probably wont even help us
ya great idea!!
Just because I am pro-choice that does not mean I am pro-abortion. That is just another part of my life that I don't think the government should be in. I do not care if you choose not to have an abortion. And I do not feel guilty about the 45 million children that weren't born. The people who choose to have an abortion would not have taken care of them and we already have un-adopted children in foster care.
...drill for oil? YES! Shouldn't we USE the resources that God gave us to USE when He created the Earth?
*facepalm*
You realize that oil isn't a mineral, right? Oil is what results when you bake countless microorganisms in a pressure cooker for a few million years.
You know, on the pro-life issue, some people want to make a choice AFTER they screw up and others want to make a choice BEFORE they screw up
Right, because anyone who might be in a position to want an abortion must've just been shagging like rabbits.
I'm pro-choice too, only I choose to make my choice about what to do if I get pregnant (and yes, even if it's the result of a rape situation) BEFORE the situation occurs.
With rape, there's no "choice BEFORE they screw up." Thank you for so quickly obliterating your own point.
The scientists all agree that life begins at conception.
Complete bulls---. Whether something is alive isn't the issue. If it were, masturbation would be called mass murder by the demonizing likes of you. Personhood is the issue.
If you think "life" begins at conception, though, what are your thoughts on in vitro fertility clinics? You know, the same ones that throw thousands of embryos into the incinerator each year. Are they mass murder centers? If not, your moral superiority complex is being vaporized by your own flagrant hypocrisy.
You can't just smile pretty and regurgitate a speech written by some speech writer and hope that's all there is to being the president of the United States.
Obama wrote a number of his own speeches. The first thing people talked about when they heard McCain's VP choice was "Who is that?", and the second was "She's hot." Oh, and incidentally, that same VP pick regurgitated lines written by Bush's speechwriters -- lines that are 40 years old.
The truth is that the Republican party, the party of Lincoln, is the party that fought for the abolition of slavery and won. It's a shame that the voters don't remember that little factoid.
If you think the currently neocon-controlled Republican Party is the same one that Lincoln was a part of, then you really know next to nothing about the party you fawn over.
Our country needs change in Washington and Obama is not a change. In fact, Obama is more of the same that is the worst thing about our political representation
You're a bit confused, I see. Obama wasn't the one that voted in lockstep with Bush 95% of the time. That was McCain.
he has been put into his political positions more by the manipulations of the Chicago electorate and by legal wrangling rather than by just running a straight forward campaign and winning with a majority of the votes in a fair competition.
Less blather. More evidence.
Must be nice to have friends and lawyers to help you get what you want if you can't just win by playing fair and square.
Must be nice to have an admiral for a daddy so you could legacy into the academy.
So don't criticize VP nominee Palin or PRES nominee McCain either one for their pro-life positions. They know where and why they stand on this issue and I agree with their position and will be voting for them in November for this reason and for many other good reasons.
I don't have Palin being "Pro-Birth". But the fact she only wants abstinence style Sex Ed, scares me.
yes here's a thought! lets ruin nature
However, you feel very comfortable in ruining other countries nature because you want cheap gas.
It's time that we use our resources in our own backyard. We buy more oil from Canada (our neighbor) and Venezuela than from the ME.
Cheap? how long ago was it that you purchased gas? i actually prefer Brazil's approach.
determined0a1...you always hit the nail right on the head! :)
These "global warming believers" have a too high opinion of themselves to think that we can alter the ways of the universe....if you only new how minuscule you really are.
So, lets keep on paying huge gas prices...so some fishies, rabbits, dear and bugs don't die.
its not that i want to keep paying soo much for gas, and assuming so is asinine! i just dont think that trying to drill our we to energy independance is the right path, i personally think there are better ways.
These "global warming believers" have a too high opinion of themselves to think that we can alter the ways of the universe....if you only new how minuscule you really are.
So wanting to keep the planet healthy = bad?
However, you feel very comfortable in ruining other countries nature because you want cheap gas.
What a pathetic lie, though considering its source, it's actually surprisingly cogent. I guess you've never heard of anyone championing alternative energy. Get out more.
These "global warming believers" have a too high opinion of themselves to think that we can alter the ways of the universe....if you only new how minuscule you really are.
Seriously, we're so minuscule that we're causing one of the greatest mass extinctions in history. Tiny, tiny humans.
i just dont think that trying to drill our we to energy independance is the right path, i personally think there are better ways.
It's pretty much the worst way to achieve energy independence, since the Middle East, Canada, and Russia have far more oil than Alaska. Guess what happens when our Alaska reserves start running low? Yep, lop that "in" off of "independence."
So wanting to keep the planet healthy = bad?
Nah, we're just simply morons for trying to do something about that, because heck, God is going to take care of everything, and nature is simply there for our pillaging.
Jack, drilling for oil is not going to hurt the planets health. lol
Yeah and God DOES take care of everything...He created minuscule you and everthing around you.
Appalling Palin is a sociopath. Palin has her own agenda. It's not about the republicans, democrats or independents or minuscule me or minuscule you. I know you will discover that in time. However minuscule we may be we are all apart of this universe and God wants us all to take care of it. The world today is the result of all our misuse of energy. If we have an alternative to saving our planet why not use it? To much of anything can destroy so please do us a favor and stop your rantings. Make yourself useful and go recycle do something that will actually help our planet. You don't have to be a Global warming believer to see something is horribly wrong. Until your directly affected you will never understand. It has to be a your doorstep. I do hold myself in high regard because as a person you should have confidence. Palin has tons of confidence. Do you think she got where she is without confidence and holding herself in high regard? We cannot alter the ways of the universe but we can alter ourselves.
Good citizens of America...
Please save your precious energy and stop wasting it on debating with people like (Hanna-girl) who obviously has the education of a rural area, trailer park inhabitant, wanna-be republican. Individuals, such as herself, would still teach that the earth is flat. That the earth is the center of the universe and that it is the sun which revolves around planet earth... With a bit of scholarship, one would find that as minuscule as we may be, our actions DO in fact effect this planet. Remove your nose from your bible for a moment and look around at what's happening to our country... And to take up for us that you consider "miniscule." At least we do not possess a "miniscule mind..."
Jack, drilling for oil is not going to hurt the planets health. lol
You need to read more. "lol"
Drilling for oil also won't lower oil prices or decrease our dependence on foreign oil, seeing as how prices are high due to commodities speculation and "Drill, baby, drill" is simply an excuse not to give a s--- about alternative energy, even though Alaska's oil reserves are relatively small.
Yeah and God DOES take care of everything...He created minuscule you and everthing around you.
Just like he took care of New Orleans or, more recently, the Midwest, right?
Change? to be continued
"Remove your nose from your bible for a moment..."
Sorry, can't do that. Because of what I read in the Bible, I know how this world is going to end.
You fellow Americans shouldn't remain so angry...it's not good for your health.
Now Hannah girl is quoting Keanu Reeves from the Matrix. "I know how this is going to end." You are not a positive person at all. Geez! Don't be a second-hand human being. Think for yourself. Change to be continued is correct. Individuals such as herself must think the world is flat. I don't think that it's our anger. I do however believe that it's yours. Your comments are a bridge to nowhere because you offer no real solutions.
Cathy, this election is not abortion. You do realize that our economy is in the tank. We are in a war that we should not have been involved in. People are losing their homes and can't pay for gas. People don't have insurance and are losing their jobs and you think this election is abortion? How self-indulgent of you.
Oh this is PRECIOUS! The Reformer is being reformed! This is even better than his campaign saying he doesn't speak for them!
Now his radical "flip of a coin" is gonna make him lean right!
I like John Stewarts take: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184113&title=john-mccain-reformed-maverick">http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184113&title=john-mccain-reformed-maverick From Maverick Reformer to Reformed Maverick,
"Hurricane Sarah". All the hurricanes I've been in have been lots of wind and leave nothing but devastation in their tracks. I've never known of one that didn't. I'll even go one better and say she is a cat 4 hurricane.
But the devastation they are forecasting is in the democratic ranks. They have already activated the Clinton emergency response team. These crowds and positive response to Mrs. Palin must be evoking some concern. The main evidence of this concern is the desperate comments made on this news article about her popularity.
They were already planning to use Hillary and Bill to campaign for Obama before we even knew who Palin was.
But now that Hillary knows that McCain is trying to use a female candidate to win over her supporters, she is REALLY PO'd. And that, I have told, is a sight to make strong men tremble. Sarah doesn't know what she's in for. Moose don't talk or shoot back.
Lets SEE. After Her Speech(words not of her own) The RNC received 1 million in donations. The DNC received 10 million in donations. Her speech said nothing to the hard-working people that have been lied to for the past 8 years. So think before you open your mouth.
You forgot about the stock market falling that day also!
Yes I was watching them today as he stood by watching her give the speeches and he stood by looking like a statue.., a fool really. I give it a little time before he blows up and gets foul as he does with other women..
Amen, Diana!! Little Miss Sarah will get old with him real quick, like she will with the American people. There's no fool like an old FOOL!!
The sad thing about all these women supporters, esp the ones who think she will support those with special needs...well, look at her record. She slashed funding for special needs, for teen mothers. Her idea of choice is her choice...as long as you let her dictate your morality, no problem.
If Sarah were a man, with only a Bachelor's degree in journalism, she would have never been selected.
here is a truth!
political pandering at its best.. or worst.. whichever way you look at it
its a shame really.
now McCain has his trophy wife.. who appearently broke her arm..?????? when did this happen??
and he has his trophy VP
personally i think he is an old perv
his smile creeps the @!$%# outta me!
I agree about that creepy smile of his, although to give him what little credit he's due, I don't think it's his fault. His smile is crooked because of that strange asymmetrical lump on his cheek that no one ever seems to talk about or identify. In his pictures as a young man, he looks quite handsome and has a pleasant smile (you can see how he managed to score with a string of beauty queens and trophy wives), and when you compare those pictures to his current ones you can see how his face has become deformed.
Which of course brings us back to the qualifications of the woman who -- if their ticket wins -- will be one heartbeat away from the oldest President in U.S. history.
its different because he is a 72 year old man who was tourtured for 5 years in Vietnam!
and God only knows how many years such abuse ages a body!
Please do not turture us any more with the torture story.
Not the POW saw again...it differs from his return to the U.S. and his early years in AZ, too...when he moved there to get elected. Botched surgery? No matter, his actions speak louder than any "look".
I ponder we constantly go back to 'Nam but not his time as a carpetbagger or as one of the disgraced Keating 5. "They were handing out hundreds of thousands of dollars and...well..they broke me."
Some of us remember, Johnny.
no i am sick of it as well! i was only saying that it surely makes him older than he would be
so in a way.. the very thing that he is trying to use as his strength, is in MHO part of his weakness
Watching the dried prune of Andrea Mitchell getting angrier and angrier had been worth. Her comments that "only the uneducated" would vote for the McCain/Palin ticket did the trick. She is still in honeymoon with Greenspan that only talked to himself and our Congress listened to him don't daring to ask any question. He was too intelectual for us.
Watching the dried prune of Andrea Mitchell getting angrier and angrier had been worth
Watching your semi-illiterate commentary has been much more amusing. ;-)
Her comments that "only the uneducated" would vote for the McCain/Palin ticket did the trick.
Well, you're voting for McCain/Palin, right?
She is still in honeymoon with Greenspan that only talked to himself and our Congress listened to him don't daring to ask any question.
And in sensible English?
He was too intelectual for us.
For you, perhaps. The Age of Turbulence was a fascinating read for me.
The one beautiful thing about America is that we get to have this election in the first place. There will always be people that have totally opposite views on almost every subject under the sun, but the best part about it is that we actually get to express those opinions.
I have three children in the military one of whom is deployed in Iraq right now. I have to think that their choice to serve their country is for a reason.
In the end, we all are Americans and no matter what happens, we get to express our views and opinions at the polls this Fall. We should all be proud of that fact and the fact that we are able to have these debates in the first place. We should respect each others views and not always criticize each other just because someone doesn't think exactly as we do.
The only problem with your thinking is that your party is more for Iraq that you own Americans. But again you are right, you will see the result of your thinking at the polls in November. The American people will not be fooled by you party again....You know the old Texan saying: Fool me once....
Bravo for your Carl! The key words are respect and should not criticize.
I'd feel better about your flag-waving if Diebold were out of the equation.
Wait....did I mention something about my party Moon?? Which is my party?? I am still getting acquainted with all of the candidates both for presidency and the vice presidency.
My feeling is that all people who feel so bad about America and think we are some terrible country and that we must somehow be the evil ones.. why do you live here? Why on earth would anyone live in a country they despise?
Right now, there are many things that I respect in both candidates Obama and McCain, there are also issues with both that I dislike. I am going to continue to study each ones previous voting records and past achievements as well as continue to listen to both candidate's plans on how they can help America recover from the current struggles we are facing.
Come November, I will feel honored and confident in any vote I cast. I will respect whatever vote anyone else decides to cast as well and whoever wins, I know that it will be the majority of the people (in most cases) that has decided to elect that candidate. If it happens to be the one I don't vote for, I am not going to curl up and die somewhere, I will get behind that candidate and hope that together, we as a country can rise above the petty issues and start to heal our country and revive it's economy and standing as the greatest nation on earth.
I normally just read these comments and am just disheartened by the negative comments. However after reading your comments I felt I must respond because yours was the first that was educated, intelligent and made sense. It was the closes thing to how I feel about the upcoming election.
I am very proud of where I live and the right to vote and will stand behind whoever wins even if it is not who I voted for. Our country will not crumble.
Thanks for wonderful, intelligent words of wisdom.
Why are all the campaign workers from john mccains campaign posting here? I thought this was a forum for the people not the insiders? Oh oh oh... i remember now the republican mantra... do as we say not as we do..... Hey republicans can you tell me how teaching abstinence works? I think Sarah Palins family is the epitome of well abstinence works... don't you? I think I will take the republican example and make sure its applied to my family as well as Sarah Palin applied it to hers.
cag,
there's a book I suggest you pick up and read, it's called "Do As I Say, Not As I Do: Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy". Conservatives often get bashed for being moral hypocrites (the senator who cheats on his wife, the teenage daughter of a governor who gets pregnant out of wedlock) while liberal hypocrisy goes unnoticed by the general public. The premise of the book is, while conservative hypocrisy ultimately hurts said conservative and their family, liberals wind up benefitting from their hypocrisy; therefore, if the policies and ideals they hold up for us to follow don't work for them, why should we think they will work for us?
This book features everyone from Babs to Chomsky to Kennedy to Pelosi.... if you're fair-minded and not a partisan hack, you may find it informative.
Abstinence works when you put it into practice, but dude, kids are kids- whether your parents are liberal or conservative, catholic, christian, jewish, atheist, etc... you're going to do things they have taught you not to do. I don't know how old you are, but hopefully not so old you don't remember being a teenager knowing damn well what you should do, but throwing that out the window in favor of what you want to do at that moment. At that age, one doesn't think about the future or the consequences- yeah, we know its there, but the idea is abstract in the teenage mind. I (thankfully) have never gotten pregnant, but I know there were things I'd done that, in retrospect, I shouldn't have, and I look back and am amazed I came out of it ok. I thought I was mature; I thought I knew what I was doing and had contingency planned... wisdom comes from experience, and that's something only gained over time.
Further- I think it's disingenuous to make this a republican v. democrat issue. If nothing else, this is a moral issue, and one to be hashed out between parents and children, because I am not so partisan or blind to believe that this sort of thing only happens to republican households. Nor do I buy into the notion that every parent who's a democrat tells their kid "it's ok to have sex, as long as you have a condom and are on birth control, and if you get pregnant, well, there's always the option of abortion" because I know better. I have friends and friends parents who, while we disagree on many a political point, view that particular matter as not one of left v. right, but of right and wrong, of moral v. amoral
The reason that conservatives should get more attention when it comes to the shenanigans we all find ourselves caught up in now and then is because they are the family values people, the 'obey our god or burn in hell' people, the people who want to deny homosexuals equal rights. When you make yourself the arbiter of how others should live, and put shame upon those who don't live like you expect them to, then you better expect it to come back on you in a big way.
So, if the conservative Republicans are the moral consciences of our society, does that mean that the liberal Democrats are the irresponsible party 'til you puke crowd?
It's not those we love in our own families and communities who happen to be homosexuals that are a problem. I have family and friends who are gay and they come to reunions and other social events and participate just like everyone one else, happily and welcomed and loved and supported. Rather, it's the fanatical radical gay national agenda that pushes for legitimizing the extremes of behavior, public displays of indecency, special protections above the rights of others, etc that really frustrate and irritate the sensibilities of the rest of us. Any two adults can go to a lawyer and create a legal and binding contract of mutual support, create powers-of-attorney for handling all legal affairs including the right to make medical decisions, etc. This whole argument about gay marriage is totally blown out of proportion and mostly unnecessary. The history of marriage laws shows that originally marriage was established as a means to secure the financial support of the wives and children for the protection, preservation and preparation of the future society. Society has an obligation to nurture and educate the future generation and so it's not in the best interest of any society to allow a free for all existence when it comes to children. Therefore, we have marriage laws. Last time I checked, it takes at least one sperm and one good egg to produce a baby. Most of the time, that means one fertile man and one fertile woman need to get together to do that. Marriage should be defined as a legal and binding agreement between one man and one woman primarily for the purposes of procreation if possible and nurturing children that come from that union. Gay folks don't normally have any hope of getting pregnant in faithful monogamous relationships. For the sake of the argument, I can see where the IRS should recognize a legal agreement of permanent mutual support the same way that they recognize a married couple's status, IF the couple, gay or straight, has offspring (baby tax deductions) by birth or adoption. I'm not sure that the IRS doesn't already have some provisions along these lines with the Head of Household status, but if two people are in a committed relationship and creating a home in which they are raising children, they should have the same tax filing status available that doesn't discriminate for or against them for taxes. Other than that, the religious meaning of a marriage is something that the religious organizations should have the right to protect. Marriage in this country is a legal and binding contract AND it's also a covenant bond when performed in a religious ceremony. Some churches recognize marriage of gay couples, others don't. I guess my point here is that the word "marriage" means something different to these different groups. I can't be a boyscout. Sorry, I'm not a boy. If marriage is defined as being a covenant bond between one man and one woman, then gay couples can't be "married". That doesn't mean that gay couples can't be legally bonded together under a written contract. It just means that we need another word to describe that legal relationship. "Marriage" is already spoken for. "Partnership" comes to mind. Perhaps "partnership" should be used for all couples (gay or straight, if they don't want children) who intend to live together, mutually exclusive and faithful to one another, and providing mutual financial support permanently, unless and until they dissolve the agreement legally. I don't know. Marriage is for husbands and wives and their children, if they are so lucky to have children. There's always "shacking up" left for the shock value and the irresponsibly inclined. And remember, divorce is not a pretty thing, no matter if you're gay or straight, so beware of what you wish for.
Judge not, but set a good example and speak up when you see someone about to take a fall. It's the right thing to do. wink wink
I don't care that much more for the liberals or the Democrats or the liberal Democrats. I want you godly folks with all the answers in your scriptures to keep your god and his vengeful ways to yourself. Some of us have left the 4th Centtury a long time ago.
cag,
Have you ever had the pleasure of bringing up children?
It is a huge responsibility that has major ramifications if done poorly.
There are many children out and about democrats and republicans alike who will make a few mistakes in their young lives if their mistakes do not cause any "real" harm (define as you may please) then they will learn from their mistakes. (hopefully).
I know that when I make a mistake I remember it and try to never repeat it.
The issue of child rearing is really not any of the governments business (unless you live in China) it is a family issue and should be dealt with in private, don't you think?
I understand that many republicans do tend to throw religion and piety in the face of the public, especially the democrats. But as so nicely stated by Cathy of Washington, her comments were either written because she is a parent or will be a parent someday. I am also willing to guess that somewhere along the way of maturing she had some excellent parenting.
Thanks
McCain/Palin ticket have the same agenda that Bush/Chenney had 8years ago.....there is no change.
the republicans sound so good in speeches but they say one thing and do another. The republicans talk about Iraq more that about their own Americans. This president and McCain wants to take money from the working people and give them to their buddies (contractors) to reconstruct Iraq after they destroyed it. How about our roads and bridges??? How about our economy ???How about our jobs???
They haven't done anything about it for 8 years and now the same people want us to vote for them to change that. Hypocrites!!!
No. McCain tried my patience many times.
This is the best thing that could have happened for the Democrats. The nation gets to see how weak, dottering, and ineffectual John Mc Cain is. He's going to follow Bin Laddin to the gates of hell, but he can't assert himself over this moose-state yenta (by the way, gramps--Bin Laddin's in the tribal areas of Afghanistan/Pakistan...look there).
And what about this woman at the end of the article: "She's every mom," said Lindsey Denny, a mother of 7...." This mom-ism thing is ridiculous. First of all, being a mom means one thing. You got someone to have unprotected sex with you. It's not like there's some complex equation that needs solving. And being a mom in and of itself means nothing. There are mothers who drown their kids, who turn their kids out to sell themselves on the street. Being a mom is just a fact, not a fetish. And for someone to have 7 kids is an act of unparalleled irresponsibility.
Am I the only one who thinks Palin was a good choice? I was hoping from the outset he'd choose her, though it seemed to be a long shot. I like the choice for a number of reasons- she's smart, she's tough, she's got the kind of experience the other three do not have (McCain, Obama and Biden have never run a business or government entity) she's run a state with a budget surplus (which indicates fiscal conservativism and responsibility, NOT seen in the Bush admin or congress) and I love how it flies in the face of what everyone expected. It bucks the trend in the republican party, and I LOVE it. I have grown weary and disillusioned with my party, but this decision by the McCain campaign has breathed life into many of us who were tepid supporters.
I also disagree that she is a bad orator. For someone who has never been in front of a crowd that large, who has never dealt with a teleprompter let alone the issues they had with it- several times during the speech she had to wing it and rely on memory or improvisation because of technical difficulties- I think she did an amazing job. I'd love to see her speak extemporaneously and see how she does. She's smart, witty, and I love the sarcasm with a smile :) She pulls no punches and takes no prisoners. Yes, Obama sounds great on TV reading off a teleprompter, but have you ever watched him in a small setting where there's no script, no prepared lines, and it's just off the cuff? HE SUCKS! He can't do it. He goes from being this well spoken, charming sounding man to an inarticulate hack who isn't sure what he believes in. He can't field unexpected questions- if it doesn't fall into what he's already prepared in his head, he has difficulty answering with eloquence, and I don't know if that's just because he doesn't feel comfortable in a setting with ordinary, everyday people, or if it's because he doesn't have firm beliefs and therefore can't transmit them without prepared script in hand.
But regardless of how well Obama does or doesn't speak, the fact still remains that out of the pool with which McCain had to pick from, Palin was one of best choices he could have made.
I are in the minority for sure...She is a maniac and an extremist....she is so out there that she will never unite the country.
"she's run a state with a budget surplus" - big deal. i live in NYC. she wouldn't last 5 minutes running a place like this. more people live in my apartment complex than in entire her town when she was mayor. she couldn't even last 1 day as a landlord for my apartment complex.
"she's got the kind of experience..." - what i found insulting in her speech is to trash community organizers. what, like those people don't matter? tell her to come & organize an event here in East Harlem where I live. You think it's a piece of cake here, trying to organize an event in a place like this? Demeaning community organization is nonsense. that's where all the grassroots efforts start.
"have you ever watched him in a small setting where there's no script" - at least he's getting out there & putting himself on the line of fire. Didn't you see the article here on Newsvine about Palin not giving interviews anymore ("Sarah Palin Won't Do Any More Interviews Between Now and Election Day")? What the heck is that about? What, she can't handle things on her own? Why does the GOP need to protect her? What is she hiding from? That's nonsense. Look at that Youtube clip from Nicole Wallace of the McCain campaign & how ARROGANT Nicole Wallace was, saying "who cares if she can talk to TIME magazine?" and "she didn't do it by talking, with all do respect, to people like you". That was so condescending of the McCain's campaign to say that to the TIME magazine reporter. That is BS.
Just like Obama was scrutinized for every single thing (rev. wright as an example), we as the american people & the voters have EVERY right to look into EVERY single detail about the next potential president (in case something bad happens to McCain).
And, don't use the stuipd "sexism" line on me. That's a cop out. If she wants to be the next president, then she needs to get her butt out there BY HERSELF & field questions from the public/reporters. She needs to be confronted, just like Obama has been confronted. Why does she need to have a different standard, just because she's a woman? And when people try to confront her, then people like you use the stupid "sexism" button? That is absolutely STUPID.
well at least obama wrote his own acceptance speech, which was awesome! all palin proved with her speech is that she can read!
You are absolutely deluded if you think Obama wrote his own acceptance speech. No way.
Susan,
You really wanna go there on this one? Most politicians use speechwriters. There are a precious few who have the gift of being able to write AND give a good speech. Reagan was the last one. Your very talented and gifted orator Bill Clinton never wrote his speeches.
does it really make a difference if they write the speach themselves or not??
its what the speach says thats important.. and giving a speach writen by Bush's own speachwriter is nothing to brag about!
yet here McCain is walking his pretty new prop around for show!
i cant understand how she is so willing to let the old man use her
You are absolutely deluded if you think Obama wrote his own acceptance speech. No way.
Nope I think she is a good choice.
I am suprised at the level of hostility on this blog.
I thought there would be more people willing to discuss differences of opinions in a more civil manner.
Maybe I am naieve.
she is so out there that she will never unite the country
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I need to be united to my family not to others. I am not looking for a soul advisor, I am looking for an insignificant Vice President.
I am not looking for a soul advisor, I am looking for an insignificant Vice President.
Because as long as it's not Romney, let's hope the VP is the biggest loser out there, because you've been ideologically locked into voting Republican?
Yep, that's sensible.
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