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Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.
The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about 2.5 percentage points.
Certainly, Republican John McCain has his own obstacles: He's an ally of an unpopular president and would be the nation's oldest first-term president. But Obama faces this: 40 percent of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes many Democrats and independents.
More than a third of all white Democrats and independents — voters Obama can't win the White House without — agreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks, according to the survey, and they are significantly less likely to vote for Obama than those who don't have such views.
Such numbers are a harsh dose of reality in a campaign for the history books. Obama, the first black candidate with a serious shot at the presidency, accepted the Democratic nomination on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech, a seminal moment for a nation that enshrined slavery in its Constitution.
"There are a lot fewer bigots than there were 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean there's only a few bigots," said Stanford political scientist Paul Sniderman who helped analyze the exhaustive survey.
The pollsters set out to determine why Obama is locked in a close race with McCain even as the political landscape seems to favor Democrats. President Bush's unpopularity, the Iraq war and a national sense of economic hard times cut against GOP candidates, as does that fact that Democratic voters outnumber Republicans.
The findings suggest that Obama's problem is close to home — among his fellow Democrats, particularly non-Hispanic white voters. Just seven in 10 people who call themselves Democrats support Obama, compared to the 85 percent of self-identified Republicans who back McCain.
The survey also focused on the racial attitudes of independent voters because they are likely to decide the election.
Lots of Republicans harbor prejudices, too, but the survey found they weren't voting against Obama because of his race. Most Republicans wouldn't vote for any Democrat for president — white, black or brown.
Not all whites are prejudiced. Indeed, more whites say good things about blacks than say bad things, the poll shows. And many whites who see blacks in a negative light are still willing or even eager to vote for Obama.
On the other side of the racial question, the Illinois Democrat is drawing almost unanimous support from blacks, the poll shows, though that probably wouldn't be enough to counter the negative effect of some whites' views.
Race is not the biggest factor driving Democrats and independents away from Obama. Doubts about his competency loom even larger, the poll indicates. More than a quarter of all Democrats expressed doubt that Obama can bring about the change they want, and they are likely to vote against him because of that.
Three in 10 of those Democrats who don't trust Obama's change-making credentials say they plan to vote for McCain.
Still, the effects of whites' racial views are apparent in the polling.
Statistical models derived from the poll suggest that Obama's support would be as much as 6 percentage points higher if there were no white racial prejudice.
But in an election without precedent, it's hard to know if such models take into account all the possible factors at play.
The AP-Yahoo poll used the unique methodology of Knowledge Networks, a Menlo Park, Calif., firm that interviews people online after randomly selecting and screening them over telephone. Numerous studies have shown that people are more likely to report embarrassing behavior and unpopular opinions when answering questions on a computer rather than talking to a stranger.
Other techniques used in the poll included recording people's responses to black or white faces flashed on a computer screen, asking participants to rate how well certain adjectives apply to blacks, measuring whether people believe blacks' troubles are their own fault, and simply asking people how much they like or dislike blacks.
"We still don't like black people," said John Clouse, 57, reflecting the sentiments of his pals gathered at a coffee shop in Somerset, Ohio.
Given a choice of several positive and negative adjectives that might describe blacks, 20 percent of all whites said the word "violent" strongly applied. Among other words, 22 percent agreed with "boastful," 29 percent "complaining," 13 percent "lazy" and 11 percent "irresponsible." When asked about positive adjectives, whites were more likely to stay on the fence than give a strongly positive assessment.
Among white Democrats, one-third cited a negative adjective and, of those, 58 percent said they planned to back Obama.
The poll sought to measure latent prejudices among whites by asking about factors contributing to the state of black America. One finding: More than a quarter of white Democrats agree that "if blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites."
Those who agreed with that statement were much less likely to back Obama than those who didn't.
Among white independents, racial stereotyping is not uncommon. For example, while about 20 percent of independent voters called blacks "intelligent" or "smart," more than one third latched on the adjective "complaining" and 24 percent said blacks were "violent."
Nearly four in 10 white independents agreed that blacks would be better off if they "try harder."
The survey broke ground by incorporating images of black and white faces to measure implicit racial attitudes, or prejudices that are so deeply rooted that people may not realize they have them. That test suggested the incidence of racial prejudice is even higher, with more than half of whites revealing more negative feelings toward blacks than whites.
Researchers used mathematical modeling to sort out the relative impact of a huge swath of variables that might have an impact on people's votes — including race, ideology, party identification, the hunger for change and the sentiments of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's backers.
Just 59 percent of her white Democratic supporters said they wanted Obama to be president. Nearly 17 percent of Clinton's white backers plan to vote for McCain.
Among white Democrats, Clinton supporters were nearly twice as likely as Obama backers to say at least one negative adjective described blacks well, a finding that suggests many of her supporters in the primaries — particularly whites with high school education or less — were motivated in part by racial attitudes.
The survey of 2,227 adults was conducted Aug. 27 to Sept. 5. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.1 percentage points.
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Associated Press writers Nancy Benac, Julie Carr Smyth, Philip Elliot, Julie Pace and Sonya Ross contributed to this report.
© 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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{"commentId":3015759,"authorDomain":"fisico"}
all of you that spout Obama is a socialist . Guess what the method they considering in bailing out the big corps really is? It's a form of SOCIALISM! Chew on that one!
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- 5 votes
#26 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:39 AM EDT{"commentId":3025677,"authorDomain":"kedwards1948"}
It's "corporate socialism" Fred. Which means as long as they are making money, it's "free market", but if they lose, then it's dumped in the laps of taxpayers. But that's ok with those screaming that Obama is a socialist, (with no grounds for their fears by the way).
Those who honestly believe in "Free Market" should be screaming against the bail-out. Why don't we let them fail, just like any other business? This is the Republican business model. It's failed, but it is their business model. Remember, government is the problem, not the solution. Deregulation for all businesses. Seems to be a bit of a different tune being played on Wall Street today.
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{"commentId":3015781,"authorDomain":"phaedrus72"}
Despicable!!!!!!!!!!!
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#27 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:41 AM EDT{"commentId":3015798,"authorDomain":"juno"}
You know what? I mentioned that this was true in my experience and was chastised and mocked for it.
It has been a common theme in this election cycle, and backed by big Dems (ie Dean) that R = racist. I've seen this played out everywhere.
Though I don't like the implications of this article, I am glad it debunks a good bit of that BS. 'Cause I'm overly tired of the racist tag being nailed to my forehead for no other reason than I am a republican, and I'm outraged by such terms as "sell-out" being thrown at my "non-white" republican peers.
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- 3 votes
#28 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:43 AM EDT{"commentId":3015971,"authorDomain":"phaedrus72"}
juno, they are talking about a very small proportion of the Democratic party, about 2% at most. Mostly it's the ones who stuck with the Democratic Party after the Civil Rights act was signed. The majority of the racists left the Democratic Party and jumped ship to the Republican Party. This is not opinion, this is historical fact. Johnson even declared after signing the Act that we have lost the South for a generation.
So are there racists in the Democratic party? Of course there are, there are racists north south east and west in this country, but the numbers are far higher within the Republican Party. That is the party that they usually flock to. Does that mean all Republicans are racist? Of course not. But many of them are, a much higher percentage than are racist within the Democratic Party.
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{"commentId":3016302,"authorDomain":"mrgeniussir"}
More racists in the Republican party? Any data to support that assertion? I wouldn't be surprised if that was ACTUALLY true, but I think there are a lot of assumptions made about that. For example: more repubs vote against affirmative action. So the assumption is: therefore that makes them racist.
Most repubs would tell you that they think affirmative action HURTS minorities.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3017269,"authorDomain":"juno"}
Phaedrus: First, without hard numbers to qualify that R= racist majority, I can only rely upon my own experience . . . and it reflects the opposite of that statement, I've lived in many places, visited many more and have a good amount of experience to pull from.
History doesn't necessarily reflect the state of today. For instance, my mother still adamantly calls herself a liberal. But on almost every issue she is most assuredly not.
I do not dispute your assertion that racism exists and exists in all places in every ideology, and will add that it is in every ethic group. I would remind you however, that the vast majority of people still consider "the south" the incubator to all racial ills.
King brings forward an excellent example of finding a true % difficult. I do believe affirmative action is an insulting 'handicap' based on race. Which tells one person they don't have the goods or character to compete with another. It also works to keep division in play.
As to this study, I'd be interested in seeing some of the images they refer to. For example, if I were shown a picture of gang-member type (of whatever color) I would react negatively. Anyway, that would be interesting to know.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3025721,"authorDomain":"kedwards1948"}
@King of Newsvine They were known as the "Dixiecrats", and yes, they jumped to the Republican party back in the 60's. I don't think you can draw the conclusion that there are more racists in the Republican party based on this fact. It's just one of those things, (history).
I think it had more to do with the "state's rights" argument than anything. A lot of the south wanted to maintain segregation as a state right, but the federal government said no.
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{"commentId":3035359,"authorDomain":"werblssed"}
PHAEDRIS, accept you fail to mention that there are far more black racists then white and the blacks are primarily Democrats. This is extremely a valid comment,if you are white and walk the streets in an all black neighborhood, see how they react, but should a black walk in an all white neighborhood you would definately see the difference.
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{"commentId":3015811,"authorDomain":"karesony"}
It's not race per se. It's the "he's not like us" factor. It's the militantly -- not sure how to describe that church -- pro-African American church he's attended for years. It isn't surprising so many people would wonder why he wants to serve everyone now, since his interests seemed centered on the black community. Would he show favoritism? Who can tell, because we don't know him that well. Still, the Democratic ticket is less scary to me than the other. But that's just me, probably.
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- 3 votes
#29 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:44 AM EDT{"commentId":3015871,"authorDomain":"mentalshift"}
I am glad that you are apparently supporting Obama.
I would like to point out however that you deny race as the reason for people's reluctance to support Obama, then you go on to focus on race as the reason people are reluctant to support Obama.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3015951,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
The 'reluctance' to support Obama by 30% of Democrats (according to the article) is based on a number of things, the perceived mistreatment of Hillary Clinton by the media and the Obama campaign, the highly controversial primary results which to many people do not reflect the will of the majority of Democrats, Obama's own 'race' problems, via Rev Wright and his racially separatist church of 17 years, his presumed (by some) air of elitism and personal arrogance.
No one can sift through this and fairly conclude that the resistance to him is solely based on white racism, but that is pretty much what the Associated Press and NPR (in a similar article yesterday) are doing. These stories are far from helpful, to the country or to Obama.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3016052,"authorDomain":"mentalshift"}
No one can sift through this and fairly conclude that the resistance to him is solely based on white racism,
This article doesn't do that.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3016157,"authorDomain":"karesony"}
Well John put it better than I did, and it's more complex than simply race. Of course there is still bigotry on the part of some, but I think it's a pretty small percentage these days. Obama has not been a familiar figure for very long, he hasn't voted on that many issues, and people still are uncertain what he would do if...
Some of us are concerned what McCain would do if, or if he would do anything at all; and very concerned what Palin would do if, if they give her anything to do. She's another unknown factor. Biden has been around for so long, I think a lot of people are comfortable with him, even tho he talks too much.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3016166,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
Quite to the contrary, the article DOESN"T EVEN MENTION any factors , other than white racism, that may be contributing to this situation. This is very biased reporting.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3016290,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
Well John put it better than I did, and it's more complex than simply race. Of course there is still bigotry on the part of some, but I think it's a pretty small percentage these days. Obama has not been a familiar figure for very long, he hasn't voted on that many issues, and people still are uncertain what he would do if...
Some of us are concerned what McCain would do if, or if he would do anything at all; and very concerned what Palin would do if, if they give her anything to do. She's another unknown factor. Biden has been around for so long, I think a lot of people are comfortable with him, even tho he talks too much.
There's an old Steve Winwood song that goes "when you see a chance, take it". That's what Obama did. He calculated this would be a good year for Democrats and that the the time was ripe for a black candidate to succeed in the Democratic primaries. He took his chance based on timing. He made a couple huge mistakes. He failed to quit Trinity United Church Of Christ in the early months of 2007 when it would have been a minor story, and put it behind him. And he 'went along with' the smearing of the Clintons on the basis of race, which has created an unresolvable hostility toward him by many many Clinton supporters, which has yet to fade.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3016414,"authorDomain":"karesony"}
Hmm, not so sure about the church thing being a minor story. I'm sure it would have come out, & perhaps later, influencing November even more. And if not for recent events like Palin/hurricanes/banking crisis (not that the three are linked;=), I think there would be more media interest in these other background issues. The MSM are kinda running the show when it comes to what gets the attention. My impression lately is they have a sort of obsession with Palin.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3016508,"authorDomain":"adouglass3"}
JohnRussell,
Very good points.
What degree of influence do you think the pollsters themselves play in the gathering of these numbers.
Bigotry transcends our demographic and certainly must have SOME effect.
{"commentId":3016508,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"adouglass3"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3016534,"authorDomain":"mentalshift"}
John, for God's sake man, ease up on the white guilt. The article clearly says:
Not all whites are prejudiced. Indeed, more whites say good things about blacks than say bad things, the poll shows. And many whites who see blacks in a negative light are still willing or even eager to vote for Obama.
On the other side of the racial question, the Illinois Democrat is drawing almost unanimous support from blacks, the poll shows, though that probably wouldn't be enough to counter the negative effect of some whites' views.
Race is not the biggest factor driving Democrats and independents away from Obama. Doubts about his competency loom even larger, the poll indicates. More than a quarter of all Democrats expressed doubt that Obama can bring about the change they want, and they are likely to vote against him because of that.
damn dude.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3016697,"authorDomain":"karesony"}
Those other, mitigating survey results are buried later in the article. The headline, the lead paragraph and the ones that immediately follow, all indicate that a large % of whites are racist pigs, in other words. Shameless hyperbole, because as you point out, the article goes on to say something quite different.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3016717,"authorDomain":"Aunk"}
Hetep and Respect Karmi, I am happy to see you leaning toward TeamAmerica. The issues you raised regarding a certain Cultural Confusion in the American public are real.
The country is having trouble articulating its reaction to an African American candidate because they do not have command of the specialized language needed to describe the elements of the most complex human relations challenge in the history of the world.
Cultural Literacy Minute: Everything is not Black and White the middle ground is Cultural Poisoning.
In my first book, I point out that 90% of us Americans suffer from some degree of Cultural Poisoning. Most of those suffering from acute levels of this dis-ease have moved to the Republican party since the 60's, (Code="Social Conservative"). However, the Democratic Party is not free of Cultural Poisoning. AP-Yahoo News poll points to this reality, finding that one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks.
African Americans have trusted and voted for European Americans, the question is, is the Country sufficiently Culturally Healthy to adapt a complementary program in their collective bio-computers in November. Cultural Health in the Democratic Party has obviously improved beyond what I would have expected in my life time. The question is, how much has the National Cultural Health improved?
70% of Americans know the Republicans using their philosophy have failed us on foreign policy and domestic policy. Based on that reality no Republican should be hired for the top job for 100 years, or until their philosophy changes, which ever occurs first. We all know who has already won the election, except for the elephant in the room that this article is pointing to.
Karmi, What are your Top Three Issues
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3016861,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
The article does not say much different other than a sentence or two about some doubting Obama's competence. This is an appallingly biased article.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3017012,"authorDomain":"karesony"}
Aunk TCHG, funny I don't think about ennumerating my issues so often, but I know the 1st two national issues are pretty common. Thanks for asking.
1)Economic health
2)Ending the Iraq debacle
3)Environment/energy/slowing urban sprawl
What issues are most important nationally to you?
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3017297,"authorDomain":"mentalshift"}
meh.
Anyway, kind of ironic that it is written by McCain's buddy, Fournier.
Certainly raises a few questions about the timing and slant.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3023154,"authorDomain":"Aunk"}
Hetep and Respect Karmi, thanks for sharing your Top Three. It is interesting how one's political picture can become clearer when you see their top three written down concisely as you have done. Here are mine.
Top Three Issues 2008 Presidential Election
1. Universal Sick Care (USC) (Pro-life for grown ups)
2. End the Iraq War in 30 days (Use money at home)
3. Green Moon Shot in 10 years (fix economy and form the future)
Key: They include my personal self-interests and What I think is important for the National interests.
Two out of three of our Top Three match (similar). We are headed in the same general direction as I suspected good spirit.
I am doing a three part series on the Top Three in my Column, one every Sunday. I hope you will stop by we would love to have your input as an undecided voter.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3015919,"authorDomain":"cybernano"}
Blacks Against Obama! And,, who cares? Why every racist east of the Pacific ocean!
If Obama is elected, he will reform all of Washington! From the top down! Republicans and Democrats!
Make no mistake. If you got government subsidies to protect. Vote for McCain! Because Obama wants to make government smaller, by increasing the investments to Education and, infrastructure renovation. While cutting all the spending to pork projects and special interest! Ohh nooooo!
Why,, it's an outrage! Uncle Dickie (cheney) won't have it! His war and defense spending is what he promised, his Republican constituents, for 10 more years! It's what pays for the yachts and Hummers! Why,, could you imagine a country without special interest? Which truly means socialism but,, on the red conservative side! So,, it's capitalism and bailouts when richy rich, screws up!! If McCain wins,, well many white folk will be happy! The racists and special interest! Ta ta for now!
Obama, Gods solution to a crooked government!
Rick1946
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- 3 votes
#30 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:57 AM EDT{"commentId":3015956,"authorDomain":"beescats51"}
I'm wondering, if there is any truth to this story, are these Dems afraid because he is 1/2 white or 1/2 black? I guess I should ask, what came first, the chicken or the egg? This is absolutely ludicrous, Wake Up America, we have severe problems in our country TODAY and what does it matter, if the one can help us out, is Black or White or Purple or Pink or whatever color.... I say DO IT... YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN, Unite America !!!!!
Have you seen this article yet, about Republicans, in Michigan, trying to stop people from voting, because their homes were foreclosed on? Here it is.......tell me it aint so:
Try to have a Great Day......
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- 3 votes
#31 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:00 AM EDT{"commentId":3015965,"authorDomain":"kerwynw"}
The people who won't vote for Obama because he's black proffer a myriad of excuses that run the gamut from the ridiculous to the outrageous. Here are some for you to digest. He has extreme liberal views; he is a closet Muslim; he is unpatriotic; he is associated with a former terrorist; he secretly harbors anti-white views; he is not qualified to be president because his mother was not 18 when he was born; he was born in Indonesia; he was a community adviser. What these misnomers show is a deep seated resentment that manifests itself as fear. The excuses speak for themselves and are nothing less than highly irrational responses as the article seeded her proves there is a hard core of voters both Democratic and Republican who will never vote for a black candidate even if it means voting against there self interest. In other words, cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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- 9 votes
#32 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:02 AM EDT{"commentId":3017058,"authorDomain":"gedanken"}
I agree. If Obama had white skin, he would be leading by twenty points.
As McCain's campaign has proven, racists will use any excuse to vote Republican: Obama is too smart, too handsome, too cool, too well-spoken, too healthy, too popular.... any reason will do. LOL
The Republican Party has become the National Party of America "Afrikaners".
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- 4 votes
{"commentId":3019286,"authorDomain":"walterego68"}
Interesting comparison, gedanke...I know things for non-whites can be bad, but do you honestly think we're headed down that path? Just so I'm clear, I'm not denigrating what you have to say, I'm more interested in your point of view...
{"commentId":3019286,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"walterego68"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3022684,"authorDomain":"gedanken"}
A colleague of mine of German ancestry who was born in Namibia expressed the idea to me. He finds many similarities between the modern Republican Party and the former Afrikaners' National Party.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3016134,"authorDomain":"greenpagan"}
One of the big shortcomings of this poll is: No breakdown of most racially biased areas by region.
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- 4 votes
#33 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:19 AM EDT{"commentId":3016266,"authorDomain":"tg-2"}
Obama 08 from an independent voter that's it am gone.
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- 3 votes
#34 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:33 AM EDT{"commentId":3016276,"authorDomain":"maxhousewell"}
many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.
I think it's more of a Republican point of view. People that have to work for a living, Blue Collar, know different, I do. Don't judge a race by an individual. Don't oppress people to a standard of living that makes their life desperate, applies to all race's. I would like to see the Wall Street Elite have to put in the same hours for the same pay as the the working class. Send the Wall Street traders to Vegas and let them gamble with their own money, stop putting the taxpayers into debut, then bail out blaming it on another.
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- 4 votes
#35 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:34 AM EDT{"commentId":3016581,"authorDomain":"mrgeniussir"}
The survey broke ground by incorporating images of black and white faces to measure implicit racial attitudes, or prejudices that are so deeply rooted that people may not realize they have them.
Well, what did the pictures look like? Any whites dressed up "gangsta" style? Any blacks in business suits?
Nearly four in 10 white independents agreed that blacks would be better off if they "try harder."
This is inane. Who WOULD'T be better off if they try harder?
Not all whites are prejudiced.
That's a lie. EVERYONE is prejudiced-don't kid yourself.
The pollsters set out to determine why Obama is locked in a close race with McCain even as the political landscape seems to favor Democrats.
No bias here. (just pretend they didn't say that)
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- 4 votes
#36 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:06 AM EDT{"commentId":3017028,"authorDomain":"wingod"}
Nearly four in 10 white independents agreed that blacks would be better off if they "try harder."
Yea you know how racist Bill Cosby is. Hell even Farrakhan says the above.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3017878,"authorDomain":"juno"}
Shoot King, I wasted my typing time above, wondering about the pictures . . . you so beat me to it! The nature of the pictures should to be disclosed for purposes of support or refuting their importance.
And, who wouldn't be better off if the tried harder? I would have half a cabinet stained by now if I tried harder to stay off NV! Which reminds me : )
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3016636,"authorDomain":"wrth68"}
I'm not a racist, and have many African American friends who are well educated and they still won't vote for Obama, for the simple reason that (they say) would be pay back time!!!!
{"commentId":3016636,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"wrth68"}
- 2 votes
#37 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:11 AM EDT{"commentId":3016842,"authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
I don't get it.
{"commentId":3016842,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3016929,"authorDomain":"MsHooterville"}
I get it, Walter. Some of your best friends are black, and the smart ones are voting Republican. Uh-huh.
{"commentId":3016929,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"MsHooterville"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":3017125,"authorDomain":"Nil"}
Walter, your black friends don't sound too intelligent if they made that comment.
{"commentId":3017125,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"Nil"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":3017600,"authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
I still don't get it. I would assume I am well educated. I got my degree in fewer schools and years than the Republican VP candidate. And I am black also but I am having a hard time grasping the pay back angle.
Guess I am not as well educated as those friends of Walter.
{"commentId":3017600,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":3016768,"authorDomain":"gedanken"}
Racial views steer some white Dems away from Obama
I have noticed that everytime McCain's poll numbers drop, he brings out the race card and his numbers rise again.
As the election gets closer, we will see McCain and his Rovian acolytes use "the mother of all Southern Strategy".
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- 4 votes
#38 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:24 AM EDT{"commentId":3017047,"authorDomain":"wingod"}
As the election gets closer, we will see McCain and his Rovian acolytes use "the mother of all Southern Strategy".
This entire article is an effort to "shame" conservative democrats into voting for Obama or be labeled racists. Can't get much worse than that.
{"commentId":3017047,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"wingod"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":3017082,"authorDomain":"gedanken"}
Space guy,
Not to worry. You are shameless.
{"commentId":3017082,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"gedanken"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":3017274,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
This entire article is an effort to "shame" conservative democrats into voting for Obama or be labeled racists. Can't get much worse than that.
We don't owe Obama a half peanut.
Others that served the country (and I don't mean in the military) earned their badges. Why the Governor Richardson was not selected? Resume vs Resume, Governor Richardson is impressive.
{"commentId":3017274,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3017322,"authorDomain":"mentalshift"}
Looks to me more like Fournier trying to deal Obama a race card.
{"commentId":3017322,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"mentalshift"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":3017684,"authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
Others that served the country (and I don't mean in the military) earned their badges. Why the Governor Richardson was not selected? Resume vs Resume, Governor Richardson is impressive.
Selected...I am sure you meant elected. Presidential candidates are ELECTED. Vice presidential candidates are selected and I am sure you can see the downside to the selection process.
Obama was ELECTED to run for President by a majority of the people that voted.
Palin was SELECTEDby one man.
I hope this provides some help to you.
{"commentId":3017684,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":3018443,"authorDomain":"gedanken"}
"There goes the South for a generation," Lyndon Johnson predicted as he signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Its now been forty years.
{"commentId":3018443,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"gedanken"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3036286,"authorDomain":"werblssed"}
Terrence, Wrong again, Obama was nominated to run for the office of president, he was not elected. If he wins the election in November he will be ELECTED.
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{"commentId":3016785,"authorDomain":"MsHooterville"}
I've seen some evidence that this is true, some Democrats (mostly older ones) still do have these hidden biases. On the other hand, I'm encouraged that even in Nebraska, I see a great deal of enthusiasm for Obama in a state that's mostly white and red. Lots of the converts are even Republicans!
But those who choose McCain over Obama when Obama is clearly the superior candidate just because he's bi-racial, they "deserve the government they get." They ASKED to lose their Social Security, their homes, their jobs, their 401-K plans with their vote for more of the same.
Even scarier, they ASKED for President Palin, should she need to step in if McCain gets deadly skin cancer again. Face facts here, the Old Cat has already had seven or eight of his nine lives.
{"commentId":3016785,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"MsHooterville"}
- 5 votes
#39 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:25 AM EDT{"commentId":3019356,"authorDomain":"walterego68"}
MsHooterville, (great screen name BTW) I would agree with you that anyone who votes for those two deserves the government they get, except for one small fact: we'll be stuck with that government too!
{"commentId":3019356,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"walterego68"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3016802,"authorDomain":"frankblack"}
There are 3 kinds of lies:
1. Lies
2. Damn Lies
3. Political polls
I would be willing to bet that this poll was bought and paid for by some Republican Liar Group to throw more racism and fear on the fire. (BTW, did you know that all Republicans are liars?)
{"commentId":3016802,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"frankblack"}
- 4 votes
#40 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:26 AM EDT{"commentId":3017275,"authorDomain":"steeveepee33"}
I'm a Democrat, and I've talked before about how sick I am of the attacks across party lines. It serves no purpose. Really.
{"commentId":3017275,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"steeveepee33"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":3035466,"authorDomain":"werblssed"}
Accept Frank, Mr Obama has been the one to bring racial issues front and center..I have a funny name, I don't look like the other presidents on the dollar, oh did I mention I'm black...his words not mine.
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{"commentId":3016862,"authorDomain":"MsHooterville"}
Rachel Maddow said things are getting ugly -- Palin/McCain are starting to float rumors that Obama has fathered a black child.
{"commentId":3016862,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"MsHooterville"}
- 2 votes
#41 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:30 AM EDT{"commentId":3017005,"authorDomain":"bluecollarbytes"}
Racial views steer as many to Barack Obama as away from him. A white Obama would never have taken the black vote away from Hillary Clinton, helpmate to our first black president. Guilty whites also seem to believe ObamaShow deserves the presidency of The United States as some perverted payback for slavery, Democrat Jim Crow, and the "racism" of 2008.
In case no one's noticed, Barack Obama is a flaming Liberal. Democrats though continue to believe that what America wants is more socialism. It's why they lose, unless a Bill Clinton comes along, pushing moderation of ideology.
{"commentId":3017005,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"bluecollarbytes"}
- 2 votes
#42 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:42 AM EDT{"commentId":3017110,"authorDomain":"wingod"}
In case no one's noticed, Barack Obama is a flaming Liberal. Democrats though continue to believe that what America wants is more socialism. It's why they lose, unless a Bill Clinton comes along, pushing moderation of ideology.
A flaming lib who's advisors are people who got us into this financial mess and walked away with tens to hundreds of millions of dollars. Why is Obama not denouncing Franklin Raines in the same manner as he condemns Kenny Lay of Enron? Enron is minor leagues compared to the mess of Fannie Mae. And you can add Clinton HUD secretary (and Countrywide board member) Henry Cisneros to that list as well. Why no righteous outrage against these guys? They are just as culpable as the Enron leaders.
To this you can add the biofuels debacle, led by the former senator from Archer Daniels Midland, Democrat Senate leader Tom Daschle, who is a senior advisor to Obama even now.
These are some of the reasons not to trust the policies of Senator Obama.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3017099,"authorDomain":"allady"}
Dem's?, I'm somewhat surprised to hear this from their corner of the political spectrum. I grew up hearing many of my parents friends and associates echo how blacks were lazy, violent and yes responsible for, as they would term it-their own misery.
The only thing is my parents are Republicans and even to this day I can't repeat some of the horrible things I would hear many of their Republican friends declare about black people, black men in particular.
In many ways I feel scared for life, because these same people would feel at liberty to hurl racial terms and slurs about black people while in my presence, as though I was in complete agreement with them. When I think back on it, I guess I was because of my silence.
I went through a difficult period because throughout high school and college I had and have friends who are black. Many times I've found my black friends to much more humble, understanding and less judgemental than many of my friends who are white.
Through these experiences, I've learned to speak-up and out, to listen up to the issues and not to all the superficial decoy stuff.
If you ask me, lazy, violent, and responsible for their own troubles covers all races, but is not the sum total of any race.
We all have our issues, if there be one race that is superior to another, "let them cast the first stone".
That's what I thought, black race, brown race, yellow race, red race, & white race, where art thou accusers?
Many young people like myself are ready to move beyond the ignorance of racial divide of our parents generation and small minded people who think on those lines.
We're not scared by the ignorance of what divides us, but encouraged by the diversity that unites us. Diversity makes this great country even greater and more powerful to truly stand as one nation under God and indivisible with Justice and Liberty for "ALL"!
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- 5 votes
#43 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:49 AM EDT{"commentId":3017364,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
The only thing is my parents are Republicans and even to this day I can't repeat some of the horrible things I would hear many of their Republican friends declare about black people, black men in particular.
You are paying back to your parents. You are upset at your parents and think that you are doing the right thing now voting for Obama.
This is like the comment of Obama with respect to his white parents that helped him = Typical white.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3024317,"authorDomain":"allady"}
"You are paying back to your parents. You are upset at your parents and think that you are doing the right thing now voting for Obama". det quote
Sorry to disappoint you dude, this is not my rendition of payback, that's to easy and much to simple minded.
It's called perfecting tolerance and understanding of our diverse country, to include understanding it's not so much a melting pot but more like a tossed salad, made up of every distinctive color under the sun.
It's hard to fill narrow minds with substantive thoughts and tolerance, thus stunting the development of the mind, producing racist, bigots and people who perpetuate derogatory stereotypes merely out of fear and ignorance.
Hope this clears up your your typical misunderstanding. []0)
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3024549,"authorDomain":"abowhite45"}
Bravo young lady, it's people like you that makes this world a better place.
Thanks for this very thoughtful and insightful commentary.
{"commentId":3024549,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"abowhite45"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":3017124,"authorDomain":"sava27"}
most whites will worship a great black athlete and will fall all over themseves to get an autograph ..yet when surveyed call them lazy or violent ....these people really have no business determining the future of our country . i seriously believe there should be a basic knowledge test before you vote . people that answer these quetions in mind boggling responses should be banned .
obama is obviously a very determined and bright person , yet they would rather vote for a 72 yesr old with a vp candidate that went thru 6 colleges in 5 years .
STUPID AMERICA WILL GET STUPID PRESIDENTS. if you want to have a beer with mccain and bush go to there ranch or go to one of nccains 8 houses .
its scary to think there are that many dumb and UNEDUCATED people out there . this might be the reason that certain news agencies can brainwash these people into doing whatever they want .
some STILL believe IRAQ attacked us on 9/11 .....or there are weapons of mass destrustion.
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- 4 votes
#44 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:50 AM EDT{"commentId":3017155,"authorDomain":"sava27"}
if this election is decided on race because of a group of uneducated morons then this country needs to reap what it sews ......maybe a great depression is what we need to weed out the truly stupid.
for the record ...WHITES have a much higher % on public aid .
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#45 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:53 AM EDT{"commentId":3017258,"authorDomain":"wrth68"}
Not in my State!
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{"commentId":3017385,"authorDomain":"raiderlaura69"}
Amen Wolverine (Michigan wolverines-Hurrah!) thought I would throw that in. You hit it right on the head, if this does happen because of race then they will reap what we sow--but so we will also suffer so we need to make sure this doesn't happen to Obama. Spread the word, if you have HBO watch Bill Mayer on HBO last night and one of his guests speak about getting the word out about this to 5 of your friends and make sure this stupidiy does not get in the way and the wrong guy is elected just because. Do you know that many Americans are possibly leaving the US if McCAINE is elected. Believe me people, there would not be anymore red, white and blue if McCain is in office--it would be red, red and red and boom to all the rest of us. The white would be in demand and when McCAin splurts off comments like Obama doesn't have the intelligence, he is really saying Obama is black and thus not smart. I can see this in his tone and words. Obama with saying your out of touch is much different that McCain saying Obama is smart enough. I think it is funny since McCAIN was at the last few bottom of his class and Obama broke records at this college. That is a black comment by McCAIN because Obama's educational stats blow that comment out of the park but McCAIN thinks that black people are and should be stupid and kept in their place.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3017469,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Your rhetoric doesn't make the cut.
{"commentId":3017469,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"a0ted"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":3017160,"authorDomain":"rocco273"}
It amazes me that John Clouse chose to be quoted by name, stating "We still don't like black people". This statement sums up much of what is wrong with the United States. Although I firmly believe in the right to free speech, I also believe the adage, "Keep your mouth shut and let them think you're an idiot, rather than opening your mouth and verifying to all that you are, indeed, an idiot."
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- 2 votes
#46 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:53 AM EDT{"commentId":3020730,"authorDomain":"carloz"}
Well, at least John Clouse admits to his racist beliefs. You have to admit he's honest, unlike some who say, "I'm not a racist, I believe we are all equal, but..."
{"commentId":3020730,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"carloz"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3017190,"authorDomain":"raiderlaura69"}
BB-375952 You need to make sure you put the information in which you obtained quoted words before you pull them out of where-ever. Get off the blog if you are that negative. Voting against anyone because of the color of their skin is morally wrong and regressive. We all bleed the same color and we are all Americans no matter what our race or religion. Get off the old McCAIN bandwagon and get with the 21st century. Obama has children too. How would you like your children to hear people talk about their dad like that. I had an epiphany last night when all this slamming McCain has done on these ads. What if Obama's children are seeing these or some of the children at their school are making mockery of them. That made me dislike McCAin even more. He isn't thinking of family values at all and Palin definately has none. Her poor baby needs his Mom now for bonding and love and where is she? Not someone that I feel is the most responsible person in the world. If I had a small baby especially with a problem, it would be no batting of an eye. I would need to be with my child right now no matter what. That is a compliment by the way for any mother. I feel sorry for mothers that HAVE to work and leave their babies for sitters and more so if that child had special needs. MCCAIN AND PALIN will do anything to win an election and I think they are now trying to push the race card by putting on to others to try to get Obama to say something wrong but dude, he is smarter than that and that is whey he will be the next PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WITH PRIDE AND WITHOUT PREJUDICE----Obam/Biden 2008 and very very proud of it as a single white mother who raised 3 children with no help from anyone and worked by you know what off doing it!!!!!
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- 2 votes
#47 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:56 AM EDT{"commentId":3017543,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Your rhetoric is not making the cut.
I don't vote for Obama for pity. I don't vote to favor a race. I vote for what is close to my thoughts and I despise our Congress for inefficients and lazy parasites. The reason that I was not voting for McCain and now I vote for the Governor Palin.
I had five small children and I worked, my kids never were unattended. Gov Palin has a numerous family for support.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3018489,"authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
I don't vote for Obama for pity. I don't vote to favor a race. I vote for what is close to my thoughts and I despise our Congress for inefficients and lazy parasites. The reason that I was not voting for McCain and now I vote for the Governor Palin.
I had five small children and I worked, my kids never were unattended. Gov Palin has a numerous family for support.
Determined,
Maybe I am just having a tough day making sense of stuff today, but man your post makes no sense, to me that is. Please send me the secret decoder ring so I can possibly agree with you.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3023009,"authorDomain":"nelson-mr"}
Bravo!!! class of 69
{"commentId":3023009,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"nelson-mr"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3017277,"authorDomain":"connie-345"}
This is such bs. People don't like Obama because they don't like HIM not because he is black.
It is the biggest cop out going on. When people criticize Obama, it is "racist" and when people criticize Palin, Obama says "it is fine, it is not sexism".
And then he discriminates against Hillary because he is a egoistical sexist pig. Cries wolf and then stabs women in the back. What a total and utter LOSER.
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#48 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:02 PM EDT{"commentId":3017428,"authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
These types of polls do two things.
1. They shed light on real tendencies through out our country.
2. They make people feel obligated to prove they aren't the ones the poll is talking about.
I am a middle aged black male and I have voted republican and Democrat in my lifetime. But this election is different and my decision to vote for Obama was easy.
And believe it or not some of that decision was predicated on race. Obama is a polarizing figure that, in my opinion, will steer this country on a new path. If for no other reason than him being a black man.
Obama the man is a cultural goulash.
He has the outward appearance of a black man.
He has a white mother.
He was raised mostly by his white relatives
He attended higher end private schools. i.e. predominately white
He worked in the inner city. i.e. predominately black.
He married a very strong willed black woman.
He grew up in a time when being the only black in your school was not chic.
Obama has a view on the country that many of us will never be able to share, including Mr. McCain. His experiences growing up have prepared him for this time in history. When our country needs to come closer together we have the chance to elect a person that can appreciate more than one view.
Obama has almost no executive experience and that is without a doubt true. But at this time in America's journey executive experience is not the issue. Look where executive has gotten us the last 8 years.
We need a President who will be able to look at black, white, Hispanic, Muslim, Asian and other Americans, and say yes I understand. And the thing is actually mean it to some degree. The other candidate is fine man (having a few truth issues lately) but he is not connected to the vast majority of Americans any longer.
America is a far different country than it was 30 years ago and thank God for that. Our President needs to have some sort of connection to the people that he leads, and sadly i can say john McCain does not.
This a turning point in our nations history. We can either show that these polls are wrong and make history. Or we we can dismiss this opportunity and cast out ballot for man that represents a much smaller cross section of this great nation.
Either way we will this election we as a country will make history. For either writing a new chapter of it or turning or back on the chance to do so.
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- 5 votes
#49 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:11 PM EDT{"commentId":3017609,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
Either way we will this election we as a country will make history. For either writing a new chapter of it or turning or back on the chance to do so.
Thanks for the laugh. I am not interested in making History or writing a new Chapter at the cost of sinking more my country for politicians in Washingtom.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3017706,"authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
Thank you for the laugh on your early comment also.
{"commentId":3017706,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3018384,"authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
Thanks for the laugh. I am not interested in making History or writing a new Chapter at the cost of sinking more my country for politicians in Washingtom.
So I am going to guess that you will not be voting for McCain, right. Since the GOP is why our country is currently sinking.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3021011,"authorDomain":"carloz"}
Thanks for your comments, terranceyoung. I agree with you about the life experiences you mention and think they have all contributed to making Obama the leader he is. However, I think you give short shrift to Obama's educational, governmental and political experiences -- and these are some of the things that really go to the heart of my support for him. He taught Constitutional Law for 12 years at the University of Chicago. The man is a constitutional scholar!! To have a President who understands the foundations of our government from this perspective is sorely needed. More than that, though, he worked in state government for 8 years (elected 3 times, so he must have done something right) and has experience in Washington -- but not so much to make him what some might call a Washington insider. This is a man who I think will be a great Chief Executive -- someone who has scholarly and first hand knowledge of how government works. In addition, his undergraduate degree is in Political Science with a specialty in International Relations. Among the Senate Committees he serves on is the Foreign Relations Committee (which Joe Biden chairs). He is also Chair of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs. He has made official trips to Asia, Africa, Europe, and the Middle East. So, this guy has an experience in and knowledge of the world, the country, state government and federal government. What a difference from the last 8 years!
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3021343,"authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
Gipper 1,
You are exactly right in your observation. I purposely steered clear of those in this particular post. The hot buttons in this thread are emotion based and good facts get pushed to the side. Without a doubt Obama is highly talented, very smart, and seemingly sincere man.
Thanks for taking the task of pointing out the FACTS :).
{"commentId":3021343,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"terranceyoung"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":3017535,"authorDomain":"burtonsmith"}
To the extent that the poll is authentic and accurate, perhaps, as a racist nation, we will get what we deserve, a country that aborted its once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to become far more than we now are.
{"commentId":3017535,"threadId":"363025","contentId":"1888792","authorDomain":"burtonsmith"}
- 4 votes
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