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Analysis: First debate produces night of contrasts

Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:39 PM EDT
politics, barack-obama, john-mccain, debate, analysis, presidential-debate
Liz Sidoti, AP Political Editor
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<p>Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., makes a point during the first U.S. Presidential Debate with Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Miss., Friday, Sept. 26, 2008.   (AP Photo/Jim Bourg, Pool)</p>

Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., makes a point during the first U.S. Presidential Debate with Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., right, at the University of Mississippi in Oxford, Miss., Friday, Sept. 26, 2008. (AP Photo/Jim Bourg, Pool)

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— Liberal and Democrat vs. conservative and Republican. Taller, younger and black vs. shorter, older and white.

It was a night of contrasts as Barack Obama and John McCain shared a stage in their first of three presidential debates.

The only similarities: a lack of specifics, a reliance on campaign-trail sound bites and an inability to answer a question directly.

Who won? The scoring is done at home by voters and the outcome depends on how they judged each candidate's temperament and tone.

When McCain's voice rose with indignation over Iraq, Iran and the U.S. financial bailout, did he come across as passionate or intemperate? When Obama delivered a studious answer about meetings with foreign leaders, did viewers see a thoughtful candidate or a detached Democrat?

This debate, primarily focused on foreign policy, was supposed to be McCain's sweet spot and a stiff challenge for Obama. But the first-term Illinois senator held his own, displaying a comfortable understanding of what was considered his toughest policy subject. So did McCain — but the four-term Arizona senator was expected to.

Appearances were striking from the time the two walked onto the stage at the University of Mississippi in Oxford.

Obama, age 47, 6-foot-1 and black, glided; McCain, age 72, 5-foot-9 and white moved with a quick gait. The rivals shook hands and took their positions behind a pair of podiums.

As the debate opened, moderator Jim Lehrer prodded the two to directly engage with each other and encouraged skirmishing. This was, after all, the first time each was able to answer the other's months of criticisms directly.

It took a few questions, but then the charges and counter charges came easily to both. The back-and-forth gained intensity throughout the 90-minute debate, though civility was never lost.

Both landed their punches and stuck to their playbooks.

McCain repeatedly found new ways to label his rival a liberal, while Obama kept calling McCain an extension of George W. Bush.

"It's hard to reach across the aisle from that far to the left," McCain said of Obama. On Iraq, Afghanistan and other issues, Obama mentioned "Senator McCain and President Bush" in one breath.

At times, both candidates struggled to keep their composure, and their dislike for each another showed through.

When Obama assailed McCain's tax proposals and accused him of wanting to give another $4 billion in tax breaks to oil companies, McCain smiled tightly, chuckled and said: "With all due respect, you already gave them to the oil companies."

And, as McCain criticized Obama's position on last year's troop increase strategy in Iraq, Obama smirked, pursed his lips and muttered repeatedly: "That's not true."

Each took shots at the other.

In an exchange with Obama about meeting with foreign leaders, McCain said: "I'm not going to set the White House visitors schedule before I'm president of the United States. I don't even have a seal yet." It was a reference to an Obama campaign crest, modeled after the White House seal, that made a brief appearance on a podium at an Obama event.

Obama, in turn, agreed with McCain that presidents must be prudent in what they say about foreign policy. Then he questioned the credibility of McCain on that principle, given that he "has threatened extinction for North Korea" and "sung songs about bombing Iran." In 1994, McCain said that he knew what North Korean leaders understood "and that is the threat of extinction." He also once answered a question about military action against Iran with the chorus of the Beach Boys classic "Barbara Ann."

On questions of international affairs, McCain showed his mastery of facts and names and history, while Obama was crisp and commanding.

It was McCain who struggled with the name of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, even though he clearly knows the pronunciation and spoke it flawlessly minutes later.

Given the stakes for Obama, what would the fallout had been had he stumbled?

McCain poked fun at his age; he'd be the oldest first-term elected president. He said the financial crisis was the greatest in "our time" — and added: "I've been around a little while." At another point, after Obama repeated a comment: "Were you afraid I couldn't hear you?"

The Republican also frequently provided a history lesson, talking of Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower before the D-Day invasion, President Reagan's decision in the 1980s to keep troops in Lebanon, Richard M. Nixon's outreach to China in the 1970s, and his own Vietnam service.

Such comments were a double-edged sword: they underscored his experience but also reminded people of his senior citizen status.

Obama, too, addressed a weakness in hopes of putting skeptical voters at ease. He noted his father came from Kenya and said: "That's where I get my name."

Both were playing their own games; neither was outside of their comfort zones. Each repeated phrases made repeatedly on the campaign trail. It was, however, the first time many of the tens of millions of TV viewers had heard the lines.

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EDITOR'S NOTE — Liz Sidoti covers the presidential campaign for The Associated Press and has covered national politics since 2003.

© 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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  • Public Discussion (20)
R. Donald Snyder

McCain came across as crotchety and contentious, whereas Barack came across as calm cool and collected. Barack did what he needed to do. By being a candidate with a clear grasp of the facts and a vision for the future, he answered any questions undecided voters might have on the one issue they have left, can they see him as president. The answer on that was clearly yes. In a change election like this one, with 80% of the people saying we're on the wrong track, Barack had to demonstrate to the undecided voters that he actually could bring about the change that they want, that he actually could be the president and he did it.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
R. Donald Snyder

There were several points during the debate when McCain became red faced and flustered, gasping and shaking his head when his inconsistencies (lies) were pointed out to him. I fully expected him to turn to Barack and say "Hey kid! Get off from my lawn!"

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:05 PM EDT
pansycritter

Wow...Barry was nasty, rude and over the top snarky tonight. What did he do, drink his own Kool-Aid? Obviously his grandparents did not teach young Barry any manners. I know… they were old so why would he care what they said.

He wagged his finger, frowned, snarled, made noises, grimaced and rudely interrupted. So that is Presidential? Not surprising a liberal would think that was presidential. Grab that blue seal and run Barry, run!

Now that you won your debate with George Bush dear Barry, can you concentrate on McCain? Who cares you want to run against Bush? Wrong campaign…four years too late. Of course, Barry is just too young to know that.

But he was a good boy too…he wore his flag pin. Kick him in the a** hard enough, he sees the light!

How come Obama blinks so much when he has to talk off-prompter?

Democrats for McCain/Palin '08

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:55 PM EDT
Paul-534930

LOL and McCain wore his best Bush smirk imitation, 26 years in the senate and a tie or close to it at best? Isn`t McCain LiL Bush?

Independent for Obama/Biden '08 New kid on the block = Change!

    #3.1 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:50 AM EDT
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    pansycritter

    What programs you going to cut Barry? Huh? Financial crisis and Barry is going to right all wrongs, bring light to the graveyards and raise the dead and his large pocket supporters will belly up and yell "yes, Barry, yes... we will give more or steal from others!"

    Good thing. Democrats in control of House and Senate last two years hasn't helped me. Must be those liberals had an insider.

    Democrats for McCain/Palin '08

    • 1 vote
    Reply#4 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:01 AM EDT
    R. Donald Snyder

    Early polls show most Americans have decided that Barack was the winner in tonight's debate and the reason is obvious. Americans, esp the undecided, are looking for a reason to change. They're looking for a legitimate agent of change that they can feel comfortable voting for. Barack gave them that option tonight. they were looking to see in Barack was a legitimate option to vote for and he satisfied them that he is. When they see McCain they see more of the same and they wanted an alternative. Barack came across and in fact is that alternative. He closed the deal tonight.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:06 AM EDT
    pansycritter

    Barry, Barry...what happened boy? You're young, you faultered. You looked weak, confused, rude, snarky, and so out of your 'teleprompter" environment...

    Immature...yeah, that's the word. Ok, ok...forget the rest. Immature.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#6 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:11 AM EDT
    pansycritter

    It just comforts me so very much that Obama's speech on Iraq (he was dragged into screeching and crying by a woman--Barry, shut up...just say this and say this now!) is now his claim to fame. I guess once agin, the woman was right.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#7 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:16 AM EDT
    Jeremiah Johnson

    Debate goes to Obama.

    McCain hardly ever looked at Obama during this debate.

    Obama more often then not looked directly at McCain as he gave forth his answers.

    My Analysis says that when the opposing team fails consistently to look you in the eye, they are being less than truthful and are perhaps lying thru their teeth.

    I am Jeremiah Johnson and I approve this message.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#8 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:16 AM EDT
    R. Donald Snyder

    RAmen.

    • 1 vote
    #8.1 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:18 AM EDT
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    R. Donald Snyder

    pansycritter

    Troll. Now on my ignore list. Goodbye.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#9 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:19 AM EDT
    Lisa in CA

    Same here.

      #9.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:35 AM EDT
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      pansycritter

      Ha! I see the light! Liberal men are gay! Obama is pretty and they like him. That's cool, that's sweet.

      Barry didn't know anything about Russia or the former Soviet Union so he changed the topic to "drilling." How appropriate. I'm sure he did.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#10 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:20 AM EDT
      pansycritter

      Obama's biggest problem...ignore those that do not agree. Typical of an Obama supporter. No problem. Not my concern...you've been fun! ;-)

      • 1 vote
      Reply#11 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:23 AM EDT
      Helpmeunderstand1

      Thanks Don. I kept wanting to make a legitimate comment to this discussion but was constantly being irritated by that mosquito Pansycritter. Somebody needs medication. I didn't feel there was a clear winner, but Obama definitely came across more poised and presidential. If this area was McCain's strong point, he's in big trouble in the rest of the debates.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#12 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:31 AM EDT
      R. Donald Snyder

      Just go to his home page and where it shows him, click on "Ignore this author". Helps ones blood pressure not to have to read the words of trolls.

      • 1 vote
      #12.1 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:34 AM EDT
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      Rita5650

      I did notice that McCain never looked at Obama. Criminals, Liars, Thieves never want to look at the person they are lying to or stealing from either. They are afraid they will give away the evilness that is in their souls, that is a part of the criminal mindset. McCain was condescending and insulting in his attitude toward Obama and that is how he will be treating world leaders and other heads of government to if he becomes President. That is not very diplomatic, it was childish. How many wars is this warmonger going to take us into if he is elected with a childish, insulting, and condescending attitude toward other parts of the world.

        Reply#13 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:09 AM EDT
        jdunn

        I'll say it again, Mc Cain is still Mc Nasty the schoolboy who threw spit wads at classmates and took their lunch money during recess. He showed a remarkable disrespect for his opponent, often laughing out loud while Barack spoke. Mc Nasty couldn't wipe that condescending smile off his face. Does America really want another self righteous president who thinks he knows it all? I for one am quite sick of that attitude. Mc Cain really does = 4 more years of Bush.

        I also found it sad to watch Mc Cain recycle his Putin KGB and Bear paternity jokes. He's told those so many times and his delivery is so bad that nobody ever laughs at them anyway. Mc Cain had a decent debate otherwise, but his inability to directly address Obama made him look weak in my opinion. Is that how he would negotiate with foreign leaders with whom we have disagreements? Oh yeah, he won't even talk to them. He will continue the Bush foreign policy of isolationism, which is a proven loser.

          Reply#14 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:12 AM EDT
          Lisa in CA

          Yeah, I think he needs to be careful about throwing around the KGB jokes. First of all, what is he even accomplishing by using a line like that? But more importantly it makes him sound like my commie-hating grandpa. Like, whoa, dude, the world has moved on! Have ya noticed??

            #14.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:37 AM EDT
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            just me-474668

            Everyone has noticed that McCain didn't look at Obama...did you notice McCain didn't look at the camera - which meant the viewers? Obama addressed the viewer, Jim Lehrer and McCain with his eyes.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#15 - Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:39 AM EDT
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