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One-in-four chance McCain may not survive 2nd term

Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
politics, health, sarah-palin, presidential, if-john-mccain
Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Associated Press
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<p>In this Nov. 4, 2001 file photo, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., waves to the crowd prior to Game 7 of the World Series between the Arizona Diamondbacks and the New York Yankees at Bank One Ballpark in Phoenix. (AP Photo/John Bazemore, File)</p>

In this Nov. 4, 2001 file photo, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., waves to the crowd prior to Game 7 of the World Series between the Arizona Diamondbacks and the New York Yankees at Bank One Ballpark in Phoenix. (AP Photo/John Bazemore, File)

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— If John McCain is elected and goes on to win a second term, there's as much as a one-in-four chance America could see its first woman president — Sarah Palin.

It's actuarial math.

The odds highly favor either McCain or Barack Obama completing a first term in good health. After that, McCain's odds are still fairly solid, but his chances of dying or being in poor health go up faster than Obama's, mainly because of his age.

An Atlanta actuarial company specializing in individualized estimates of life and health expectancy has run the numbers for McCain, 72, and Obama, 47. The firm, Bragg Associates, calculated the odds of the candidates dying in office, adjusted for their known health problems.

McCain would be the oldest president to begin a first term in office. By the end of a second term, Jan. 20, 2017, he would have a 24.44 percent chance of dying, compared with 5.76 percent for Obama, the firm estimates.

"Can either candidate expect to serve two terms in a healthy state? The answer is yes," says James C. Brooks, Jr., an actuary with the firm. "They're both in outstanding health for people of their age."

Illness is another issue.

Because chances of developing a serious ailment are higher for any person than are the chances of dying, Bragg used the candidates' medical information to estimate how many years of good health might be in store for each. After all, a debilitating illness could force a president to step down.

The firm estimates that McCain has a health expectancy of 8.4 years, while Obama can expect another 21.9 years of good health. The calculations are from January 2009, covering two terms in office for either candidate. McCain, if he's like others in his age group, would have a cushion of just about five months.

But no one really knows. Actuaries like Brooks make statistical calculations for insurance companies, based on numbers culled from large databases. No matter how sophisticated, they can't predict anyone's future.

"There a randomness to it that we don't know," said Ron Gebhardtsbauer, who directs the actuarial science program at Penn State's Smeal College of Business.

For example, he said, "if McCain is president, he'll get the best health care in the world. I can't crank that into any of my numbers."

Health expectancy calculations, although relatively new, are becoming increasingly important as people buy long-term-care insurance.

"We've done thousands of these health expectancy calculations for financial planners," said Brooks. "People, especially those with high net worth, are concerned more about the risk of living too long than about what happens if they die prematurely. What if they need long-term care?"

The firm's estimates for McCain and Obama relied on medical information disclosed by the candidates. Bragg Associates has no partisan agenda, said Brooks: "We don't have a dog in this hunt."

He classified the Democrat as a smoker with minor upper respiratory problems, probably linked to his smoking. Obama announced in February that he was trying to quit smoking again, with the aid of nicotine gum.

"We don't consider you a nonsmoker until you stay quit for 12 months," said Brooks.

In the spring, the Obama campaign released a letter from the candidate's doctor declaring him to be in excellent health. He had very good cholesterol levels, his EKG was normal, his pulse was 60 beats per minute, and his blood pressure was an outstanding 90 over 60. Obama also exercises regularly.

But Obama has a family history of cancer. His mother died of ovarian cancer and his maternal grandfather died of prostate cancer. Obama's PSA screening test for prostate cancer showed no sign of abnormalities.

For the Republican, Brooks took into account a history of skin cancer, degenerative arthritis from his Vietnam war injuries, moderately high cholesterol, mild vertigo and that McCain is a former smoker who quit in 1980.

McCain allowed reporters to review eight years of medical records, more than 1,000 pages. They show that he is cancer-free, has a strong heart and is generally in good health. As a three-time melanoma survivor, his biggest health worry is a recurrence of that cancer. But he is closely watched by his dermatologist, and any future melanoma should be caught in time to be treated successfully. McCain maintains a healthy weight and blood pressure, and takes medication for his cholesterol.

To underscore his chances of long life, he's campaigned with his mother, 96 and going strong.

Vice presidential candidates Joe Biden and Sarah Palin have not released their medical records, although Biden has promised to. Biden, 65, had surgery 20 years ago to repair a life-threatening brain aneurysm. He was out of the Senate for seven months while he recuperated but says he's fine now. Palin, 44, a mother of five, gave birth earlier this year to a son, Trig, who was born with Down syndrome.

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kcsdarwin

So that's a 75% chance that Sarah Palin...yes, that Sarah Palin, will be the President of the United States sometime in the next eight years!

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:38 PM EDT
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cisco747

Either is unacceptable.....only a 0% chance would be acceptable!!!!!!

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:18 PM EDT
not over it

He hasn't been elected to the first term yet. Don't you think we are jumping the gun a little?

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
JohnRussell

So that's a 75% chance that Sarah Palin...yes, that Sarah Palin, will be the President of the United States sometime in the next eight years!

Maybe you should debate Sarah Palin on Thursday. You can correct her on Russia and she can correct you on math.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
MrBlonde-400192

100% chance that John McCain won't have a first term let alone a second.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
Frank BlackDeleted
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Tappy McWidestance

If McCain is elected, the chance Palin will become President is much closer to 100%. We've already seen McCain admit he really isn't running is own campaign and didn't get to pick is first choice for VP. Shortly after being sworn in, the power brokers behind McCain will tell him it is time to go and he will resign.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:27 PM EDT
Tanilan

Wow Tappy, I never looked at it that way! Then, why would they pick Palin? She is obviously not presidential or vice-presidential material.

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:30 PM EDT
JohnRussell

If McCain is elected, the chance Palin will become President is much closer to 100%. We've already seen McCain admit he really isn't running is own campaign and didn't get to pick is first choice for VP. Shortly after being sworn in, the power brokers behind McCain will tell him it is time to go and he will resign.

Newsvine should have a tag that is attached to this sort of thing - POLITICAL HATE SPEECH

    #2.2 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
    cisco747

    tanilan.......

    let's just be completely honest about it. she's not really mayoral material. But, you know how numbing those long Alaskan winters can be. That's the only reason I can see how she got elected to anything.

    • 2 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
    Tanilan

    Very true cisco, very true

      #2.4 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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      northerngirl

      If they are talking about a second term, I guess it would be because a majority of people were happy with the job McCain and Palin were doing after their first term. She'd have over four years of experience as VP as well.

        Reply#3 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:49 PM EDT
        Roger47

        How can that guy make such a prediction? McCain will not release his medical records, so we have no way of knowing if his cancer has come back. He obviously has something to hide, or he would have released them. In a couple of recent appearances he had something strange going on with his left eye and the left side of his face, giving the appearance of a stroke, although I did not notice it during the debate. What was that about? He won't say.
        We have evidence Barak Obama is healthy. John McCain says "Trust me." With Sarah Palin waiting in the wings, that is too much to ask.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
        JohnRussell

        We do? Oh that's right, he hit a couple three pointers in front of the reporters. Well he's 47 years old. I should hope he's not breaking down yet.

        There is no 25% chance John McCain will die within 8 years. There is either a 100% chance he will die, or a 100% chance he will live. As it turns out, the ones who live should never been included in the percentages, should they?

          #4.1 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
          MsHooterville

          How is pointing out a candidate's health issues "political hate speech"? I'd really like to know why.

          Would it be "political hate speech" if both were healthy, or if both had health issues that had the potential to limit their time in office and have the person they chose to step in for them take over? Or would you say "Glad I knew that" like a grownup instead of a partisan?

          On the 40th anniversary of JFK's death, Peggy Noonan wrote a simpering column about how the public should have had the right to know about all the medications he was taking, his Addison's disease and prior ailments. Of course, that's not what killed him, is it?

          Obama's term could end the same way JFK's ended. Obviously, he's an even bigger target because of his race, and let's not pretend THAT's not true, shall we? McCain's term could end because he has another bout with skin cancer that turns out to be fatal this time when he might otherwise have lived to be as old and healthy as his mom.

          But both Obama and McCain have different reasons for concern about serving full terms. That's why the VP choices were SO VERY IMPORTANT this time, more than ever.

          Obama did what he's become known for doing. He chose an experienced and dedicated man who knows the ropes in Washington who could step in instantly and keep a steady hand on the White House.

          McCain rolled the dice and picked a woman he met for a few hours and vetted about as carefully as Dan Gallagher vetted Alex Forrest in "Fatal Attraction."

          • 3 votes
          #4.2 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
          JohnRussell

          How is pointing out a candidate's health issues "political hate speech"? I'd really like to know why.

          I made that comment in reply to a post saying that Mccain would be removed after taking office in order to install Palin as President, because Mccain is under the thumb of some unseen 'power brokers' who will tell him it is time to go.

          All of which is a malicious fantasy.

            #4.3 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:47 PM EDT
            MsHooterville

            Hey, Palin has her own special witch doctor. She might ask for him to "Make a way, Lord!" for McCain to have to vacate the office, one way or another, and "pray" her into the Oval Office the way he (according to her) helped with her being elected goveror.

            • 2 votes
            #4.4 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
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            Annoyed-373400

            1 in 4 chance? Phew! I thought it would be much much worse.

            Seriously, even if Palin is...oops, I meant McCain is elected I highly doubt he would get a second chance. He probably wouldn't even choose to run for a second term, and if he did he wouldn't get elected BECAUSE of his age. Unless he was a true reformer and changed the way Washington works. But what are the chances in that happening? 1 in 700 billion?

            • 2 votes
            Reply#5 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
            Democrat in CT

            Annoyed,

            I agree.

            A President not surviving their term can happen to anyone, regardless of age or health history (there are other reasons people die besides health and old age). This is why the choice of a vice presidential candidate is so important. It is the responsibility of the presidential candidates to choose someone who could effectively take their place should something happen to them.

            Of more immediate concern is whether a person should begin a new career in one of the most stressful jobs in the country at the age of 72, an age where most people are retired. People retire for several reasons. Their health isn't as good as it used to be, the stress is too much for them at their age, they're not as sharp as they used to be, and they tire much more easily. They choose to relax, enjoy life, without the burdens and stress of a full time job.
            As President of the United States, you need to be healthy, able to withstand stress at the highest levels, be able to react calmly and intelligently to the constant issues that happen on a day to day basis. You need to be able to juggle multiple tasks simultaneously and think clearly through them all. In the current state of the economy and the war in Iraq, the stress level is much higher than usual.

            I wouldn't recommend doing this type of work at 65, let alone 72. I'm sure most people at retirement age would tell you it would be too much to handle, regardless of the years of experience that you may have.

            I respect John McCain and his years of experience, as well as his service to his country. Realistically, he, as well as voters, should be taking a hard look at whether he would be effective at his age and health history, to be Commander and Chief. Wishing doesn't make it so.

            • 2 votes
            #5.1 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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            MRZK.COM

            Chance the country will survive another Republican - 50/50. Stock up on food and water now.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#6 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
            Frank BlackDeleted
            Profchaos

            What is the point of this? As far as I know, we are having an election for the next 4 years. McCain has 8.4 years according to this. no issue. move on to something that matters.

              Reply#8 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:57 PM EDT
              Logikal1

              First off, McCain's never freely released his medical records. Instead, his campaign allowed a hand-picked group of 5 to glance at over 1,000 pages of medical data for a mere 3 hours; no recording items of any type (including, evidently pen and paper) permitted, and the pages reportedly were not in any particular order.

              As a nurse with 26 years experience, having read thousands of charts, I'm trying to imagine just how much WASN'T disclosed. Unless the 5-man team took the time to coordinate their efforts and delegated each man to check out 1/5 of the pages (assuming each was given an identical stack of paper - that their copies were in the same questionable order, not shuffled, etc) it's a sure bet a hefty percentage of vital data was buried.., which was the intent, no doubt.

              For myself, I would be highly interested in finding out if McCain was given the mini-mental exam one typically gives to persons over 65, or if he was tested for evidence of early Alzheimer's. Of course, if I was running for President of the United States I would forgo such a test if I was worried about the outcome.

              Consider this: McCain for the past year has had increasing trouble recalling important facts an figures (can't remember the difference between Shiite & Sunni ideologies, forgot we were still at war in Afhghanistan twice this summer, etc). He has become inceasingly bizarre - picking possibly the least quallified woman to be his running mate (self proclaimed 'soccer mom' & 'mother of five').

              Any rational person would be concerned about the behaviors such as McCain precipitously cancelling his appearance on the Late Show at the very last moment (leaving the host scrambling to find a replacement), telling Letterman he had to RUSH to Washington because it was an emergency and being found up the hall a short time later in makeup, preparing to give an interview (he still hasn't apologized). Shortly there after he states he's NOT leaving Washington until Congress passes some sort of legislation on this crisis- plus he's immediately suspending his campaign (which he never does)- then the next day spends a few hours in a meeting with the President, Obama and 11 others - where it's reported by several sources he sat in stony silence, staring at his papers in front of him; not once did he offer a single comment or solution. After all that he rushed off to a campaign rally long before there was a consensus on the bill.

              Backing up six weeks, we find McCain selecting his running mate based on very brief meetings (the first a mere two hours); he didn't even wait for a complete vetting of his choice. According to insiders against all advice to wait a little longer he announced his choice of Palin, leaving his campaign advisers nothing to do but back him publicly. Within hours of his announcement the media began uncovering incident after incident of questionable judgment on the part of Sarah Palin from the time she first took office as mayor of a tiny town of 9465 - a position where she only had to attend city meetings once a month - to her actions as governor of the state of Alaska (a state with a population less than that of the entire city of San Diego). Incidents that includes taking campaign contributions from mining concerns & Oil Companies (who pay for 90% of Alaskan's services, including the fact citizens pay ZERO income tax in that state).

              McCain didn't even stop to think about the fact Sarah Palin's husband is an executive with Major Oil & how that would play out with voters, or how it would affect how Sarah Palin conducts herself as vice president. (Wives, after all, try to help their husbands achieve success as part of their job description).

              Making sudden turnabout's & snap judgments lacking any rationale are, in my opinion, harbingers of Alzheimer's.

              Bizarre ads on Internet sites (approved by McCain) proclaimed he'd won Friday's debate before it'd even taken place; he continued this crystal ball campaigning by claiming he'd personally brought the Hill to an agreement on the bail-out...and we all know how that turned out. McCain angrily damned Obama for not being in Washington to work on the bill, "he's left the fight on the most important issue we've ever faced to continue his campaign, thinking he can phone in his vote" ... while speaking from own campaign rally in Columbus, OH. One can only wonder how he managed to be in two places at once.

              McCain loudly asserted our economy was strong, even as it was collapsing - indeed, on the very Monday it came crashing down. On that day he stated he found the American economy had never been better, that it was deregulation that would strengthen it even further - despite the fact our current mess can be directly tied to he & Phil Gramm seven years ago slashing important rules and regulations put in place in the 1930's to stop some of the same excesses that caused the 1929 debacle.

              The Republican candidate has reportedly developed an explosive temper - throwing items and smashing things when confronted with a sudden change of any kind, something those of us who deal with Alzheimer's patients see often. They can't deal with anything that upsets their day; it's the similarities in their day that allow them to continue to function. One could tell at the debate McCain was relying on rehearsed blurbs; he kept repeating word for word lines he'd fixed in his head. His anger was clearly barely controlled during the debate: his hands tightly clasping the podium, legs almost crossed, head down, refusing to look at his opponent, voice pitched low and grumbling- he looked and sounded like the guy who yells at kids to get off his grass.

              McCain's had 4 episodes of melanoma - a deadly form of skin cancer one is never truly free from. What happens if it recurs (and remissions can cease in an astoundingly short time) or if his Alzheimer's gets so unmanageable we're left with Sarah Palin to lead our country. She who has no Washington experience has already demonstrated she can't handle even a simple one on one interview with the press, who admits prior to being selected as McCain's running mate didn't even pay attention to the goings-on overseas (including the Iraq war), hadn't been out of Alaska her entire life (she applied for her first passport only a few weeks ago in order to go on a photo-op in Kuwait...oh,yes, she never actually set foot in Iraq despite claims to have made a trip there this summer, nor did she visit Ireland, unless on includes having her plane refuel there on the way back from Kuwait).

              Americans've not had a chance to truly get to know just what exactly Sarah Palin's capable of because Palin's been kept far away from the media: frankly, her own campaign doesn't trust her to give rehearsed answers as trained (in light of her interview with Katie Couric, they're right). So far all we've seen are carefully constructed photo ops with Afghan leader Kurzai, 90 year old Henry Kissinger and one other – where news reporters were forbidden to ask a single question, and in the case of Kurzai, lasted only 27 seconds; her only question to him reportedly 'how's the new baby?" and his answer, "Fine.". End of meeting.

              Senator McCain's first actual press conference (not campaign stop) in 6 weeks followed that photo shoot: it went by so fast if you blinked, you missed it. From start to finish a mere 11 minutes... including his lengthy opening statement. [has anyone noticed he recites his lines from cue cards or the Teleprompter one sentence at a time, always pausing to proudly smile after each line delivered correctly... much like a little boy who's in a school play showing mommy and daddy 'I did it right!'] In it he spent half a minute decrying executive "Golden Parachutes", wasting more than half the opening statement's time repeating worn-out slogans. But, when he went off well-rehearsed prepared statements & attempted to put together coherent statements, his impaired mental capacity stood out like a sore thumb.

              For example: McCain spent that aforementioned half minute decrying golden parachutes. As soon as he didn't have his carefully prepared speech in front of him and was trying to present his stand on the current economic disaster in an off-the-cuff manner, he said Senior Adviser Carly Fiorino SHOULD receive her $40 million retirement package from Hewlett-Packard even though the company had such disastrous financial returns under her tutelage & 20,000 employees lost their jobs.

              He then went on to give a totally garbled sentence that went EXACTLY like this:

              "I hope that Democrats would recognize that this that this issue should not be related in any way to my vote. This issue should be and their votes should be determined and how we can resolve this crisis and get America going again. This is a huge crisis. We know. So to somehow for the Democrats to say that their vote is going to be gauged on my vote does not do them a great deal of credit"

              Does that sound as bizarre to you as it does to me?

              It must be obvious to Sarah Palin (the person who'd win this election's Most Promiscuous Liar award hands down) as she promoted herself to top dog on the ticket last week: "This is how things will be in a Palin/McCain Administration!" It wasn't the first time she's made comments about how things would be if she was elected, either. She seems to view herself as the primary candidate on the Republican slate if one looks at her comments as to how SHE plans to change things on the hill.

              This is about the scariest thought one could have. A President with a Veep with decided eyes on succeeding to the highest office sooner rather than later needs to be very, very careful. Were I McCain, I'd restart the ancient position of 'Royal Food Taster' on Day 1; pathological liars (like Palin) are defined as ambitious people who will do anything to get ahead.

              George Will, undeniably one of the MOST conservative writers- who has consistently backed his Republican party - came out the other day & wrote flatly 'John McCain is not fit to be President.

              He wrote "McCain characteristically substitutes vehemence for coherence." Will says if McCain can't even remember that the president does not have the authority to fire the head of the SEC, he clearly has problems". He talks about how McCain tends to fire off vitriolic rhetoric and he says he is "channeling his inner Queen of hearts... furiously & apparently without even looking around at the facts..." and he says he [McCain] engages in "childish reflex", and often engages in "fact free slander".

              "... the more one sees his impulsive, intensely personal reactions to people & events, the less confidence one has that he would select judges by calm reflection & clear principles. Having neither patience nor aptitude for either... it is arguable McCain, because of his boiling moralism & bottomless reservoir of certitude, is NOT suited to the presidency." We'll goes on to say, "Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?"

              He says "McCain's smear is a harbinger of a McCain presidency."

              [Source: Washington Post.com & MSNBC.com]

              Will clearly sees McCain cannot handle the stress of the Presidency. Is it Alzheimers? Or is it a basic personality flaws the candidate has had forever, but are now being exacerbated by the relentless pressures of the campaign? It isn't beyond consideration at his age. He surely shows enough signs of it: he cannot recall important details, he mixes up dates and times, he has an explosive temper especially when the timing of things are changed, he repeats mistakes even when he knows he shouldn't i.e "The economy is strong" on the day the market is crashing and all hell is breaking loose. McCain simply couldn't assimilate the new data and process it, so he fell back on what he knew in the past.

              More signs of his poor judgment include picking Palin [after meeting her for a mere 6 hours and not waiting for her vetting to complete]. Now we are learning about all sorts of dicey antics of the Alaskan Governor...and, despite the loud calls from the McCain camp of how ALL Alaskans simply adore their governor, we find that a significant number do not. Those voices decrying her are becoming louder.

              Having picked her, he can't let Palin out of his sight for a moment lest she say something stupid. They've locked up her family so nobody testifies in Troopergate. McCain's advisers have changed Palin's previously promised cooperation into "nobody testifies" - and so, everyone subpoenaed by the Alaskan legislature has steadfastly refused to comply. They've decided if they tell outright lies fast and loud [hoping nobody will be able to catch them in a falsehood] the American people will not see past such transparent desperate tactics. An example of this is Palin's oft repeated statement she sold the Alaskan governor's private jet on EBay, an event that, though she did try, NEVER happened. [The jet sits outside the Governor's mansion' private hanger as we speak]. When questioned by the press McCain also loudly proclaims it is true, yes, she sold that jet, the physical presence of the jet notwithstanding. Ditto the claims that she never supported the $100 million infamous Bridge to Nowhere in Ketchikan (pop. 17,954) again, proof of support clearly indicating her unbridled support right up until Congress yanked the funding.

              McCain's judgment's so poor for a statesman of 26 years; for a man, who, up until about six years ago, was sharp as a tack. The American people really must insist on his medical records be made accessible to an independent group of qualified persons, & they must do it NOW – the election's only a few weeks off. We MUST know if this man is mentally & physically qualified to handle what will be undeniably the most difficult presidency in the last century.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#9 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 12:11 AM EDT
              Profchaos

              Just because you don't agree with his actions, does not mean the man is sick.

              Second. How many medical records has Obama released? A couple pages from a couple years ago??

                #9.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:32 AM EDT
                Larry H-189743

                #9 Logikal1 , You should write your own article. Your comment is longer than about 99% of the Newsvine articles!

                Having picked her, he can't let Palin out of his sight for a moment lest she say something stupid. 

                loggahrea, Senator Biden is the one who needs a babysitter or a muzzle.

                1. He wants no dirty coal plants in America, let China build them. While Senator Obama wants to build more "clean" coal plants.

                2. He says we need leadership like President FDR, who gave his fireside chat on nationwide television when the stock market crashed in October 1929!

                3. The Obama campaign ad criticizing his fellow Senator, Senator McCain, for being old and not using E-mail and not typing on a keyboard --- Senator Biden would not have approved it, and ... he stopped telling us.

                • 1 vote
                #9.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
                AmyEmilia

                Logikal, this is one of the best summaries I have read on McCain's and Palin's ability to perform their duties in the White House. Really well done.

                  #9.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
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                  No Mcgovern repeat 08

                  This is a wonderful example of media bias and how AP writers who are on the Obama bandwagon are skewing the news to manipulate the voters!

                  The ORIGINAL ARTICLE was written August 4th and published by rueters
                  http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS191450Aug-2008+BW20080804

                  The title: Both Major Presidential Candidates Can be Expected To Remain Healthy for Two Full Terms, International Actuarial Firm Finds

                  "Either candidate can be expected to serve two full terms, without
                  age or health being an issue," said John M. Bragg, chairman of
                  Atlanta-based Bragg.

                  Go READ the original unbiased article about this and reread this one. The media altered the basic premise and scope of the article and "re-wrote" this to be clearly biased!

                  If there was any doubt the media is trying to FIX this election and form public opinion here is the perfect example!

                  So we went from:

                  Both Major Presidential Candidates Can be Expected To Remain Healthy for Two Full Terms, International Actuarial Firm Finds

                  To: One-in-four chance McCain may not survive 2nd term

                  Same Data , 26 days later and CLOSER to the election. Why cant we trust the media?

                  SPIN,SPIN,SPIN! that's why!

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#10 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:07 AM EDT
                  Marco RojasDeleted
                  Blue_Eyed_Lady

                  I would rather see Sarah Palin in the White House than the Taliban partying on the front lawn of the White House. 

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