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McCain turns irritable, sarcastic in interview

Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:21 PM EDT
politics, barack-obama, mccain, sarah-palin, editors
Mike Glover, Associated Press

Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., delivers a speech on the economy at the Truman Library in Independence, Mo., Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2008. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

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WEST DES MOINES — Republican presidential candidate John McCain, once renowned for his jocular sessions with journalists, appeared irritable and at times sarcastic in an interview in which he defended running mate Sarah Palin's experience and campaign ads critical of rival Barack Obama.

Meeting Tuesday with the editorial board of The Des Moines Register, McCain was asked why he picked the Alaska governor, someone "who doesn't have a lot of experience."

"Thank you, but I disagree with your fundamental principle that she doesn't have the experience," McCain replied before citing Palin's work as a PTA member, city council member, mayor and governor. "You and I just have a fundamental disagreement, and I am so happy the American people seem to be siding with me."

When it was suggested that Palin's lack of experience worried voters, McCain turned sarcastic.

"Really? I haven't detected that in the polls, I haven't detected that among the base," he said. "If there's a Georgetown cocktail party person who, quote, calls himself a conservative who doesn't like her, good luck. I don't dismiss him. I think the American people have overwhelmingly shown their approval."

At another point, McCain was asked if he's strayed from his "straight talk" image with advertising that some have labeled deceptive. McCain dryly responded, "It would be valuable if you gave some examples for an assertion of that nature."

He went on to say: "I have always had 100 percent, absolute truth, that's been my life and putting my country first. I'll match that record with anyone and an assertion that I have ever done otherwise, I take strong exception to."

As examples, a questioner at the Register noted a McCain commercial that suggested Obama favored comprehensive sex education for kindergartners and assertions by his campaign that a "lipstick on a pig" comment Obama made was a reference to Palin. News media fact-checking the sex education ad deemed it deceptive and a distortion of Obama's position.

"It certainly is your opinion and I respect your opinion, but it's not the facts," McCain said in the interview. "I respect your opinion. I strongly disagree with your assertion."

He also sarcastically referred to his five years as a prisoner of war when answering a question about his having government-financed health care throughout his military and congressional career.

"The answer is that most of my life, in serving my country, I have had health care," he said. "I did go for a period of time when the health care wasn't very good."

McCain met privately with the newspaper's editorial board after holding an economic roundtable earlier in the day at a Des Moines business. The newspaper posted videos of the session on its Web site.

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TurboTerminator

When it was suggested that Palin's lack of experience worried voters, McCain turned sarcastic.

"Really? I haven't detected that in the polls, I haven't detected that among the base,"

Maybe McCain like Palin doesnt know what newspapers he is reading......

  • 20 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
Double Demon

lol

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
nearing

Maybe he sticks his fingers in his hears and says, "Lalalallallalallalalal." When his aides read the polls to him.

  • 11 votes
#1.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:26 PM EDT
jiub

I'm sure if he surfed the internet he would be in the loop.

I'm just sayin.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:08 AM EDT
Sherry-283430

McCain is so out of touch with reality.

    #1.4 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 6:04 PM EDT
    Reply
    Pacific Northwest Blogger

    Candidates live in a bubble, shielded by their campaign staffers unless they are given guidance on what information should seep through.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:52 PM EDT
    cisco747

    McCain needs to get out of his shielded bubble because it doesn't look like any information is seeping through!!

    • 7 votes
    #2.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
    watchoutforpirates

    I am all for him staying in that bubble. I'll even bring him easy to digest snacks and someone to listen to him not exploiting his time as a POW by talking about how the cramped bubble reminds him of something (wink, wink). Did I mention that I can get him some feety pajamas? Maybe he is more of a night shirt guy. My father, a Navy Vietnam vet too, is lost without his favorite nightshirt, even if he still has gravy on it from Thanksgiving 2005. Heck, if it makes Johnny feel like he can lie with more of a straight face about being close to the common man, I'll steal one of Dad's backup nightshirts for him. He can parade around in it telling people how he got it from a guy who got to go home after only a year in Vietnam (followed by that little "just wanted to remind you I was a POW" wink).

    • 2 votes
    #2.2 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
    Reply
    SnotRag Dave

    C'mon, John.

    Just come right out and say it: "F@ck the media!"

    Go ahead, you know you want to.

    • 14 votes
    Reply#3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
    Double Demon

    Don't make him mad! You never know WHAT might happen.

    • 11 votes
    #3.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
    Reply
    R. Donald Snyder

    McCain has always had a piss poor attitude in general and is a real crank when questioned, in spite of that incredibly phony smile he puts on his face. He doesn't have the temperament to be a good leader. He has an itchy trigger finger when it comes to shooting off his mouth and we can't take the chance that he'd have that same itchy trigger finger when it comes to using our military.

    • 20 votes
    Reply#4 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
    Sherry-283430

    NcCain is a hot head with a very short fuse. We do not need that in the White House. He is out of touch with middle Americans. He has no idea what it means to live day to day in the real world.

      #4.1 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 6:06 PM EDT
      Reply
      cisco747

      The saddest part of this whole process in the complete state of denial Sen. McCain is in. He, like "W", simply cannot acknowledge even the most remote possibility that he made a mistake, erred in judgement, or simply made a bad call.

      Speaking only for myself, I can say that I have had entirely enough of this during the previous eight years. I certainly do not want another four years of the same. John McCain is neither open enough, broadminded enough, humble enough, nor, more and more apparently, mature enough to assume the presidency.

      That he is a war hero goes without saying, but, and contrary to what he would have us and love for us to believe, this is no qualification for the office. I think he needs to take a hard look at his reasons for wanting the office. In the end, I do not think he has the best interests of the majority of Americans at heart.

      • 15 votes
      Reply#5 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
      Double Demon

      We'll see if he keeps singing the same tune after the debate. I think there might be some serious arm twisting to get her off the ticket after she is embarrassed by Biden.

      • 6 votes
      #5.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
      Linda-279773

      I have been saying that for a long time, being a prisoner of war does not make you a president, nobody denies he had a terrible time but stop using that as a selling point to be president

      • 7 votes
      #5.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
      FredC

      I get upset when everyone call him a war hero! Read "VietnamVeteransAgainstJohnMcCain" website to see how much of a hero he was! He also single handedly closed the Vietnam MIA investigation because he didn't want all the files opened (declassified) to show how much of a "hero" he was (getting special treatment from the North Vietnamese), leaving thousands of grieving families without closure of their loved ones.
      Read Aunk's "McCain Swift Boats Himself" seed for more detailed info!

      • 4 votes
      #5.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
      jiub

      Go Linda, Go Linda, Go!

      • 1 vote
      #5.4 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:10 AM EDT
      Sherry-283430

      I agree with you 100%

        #5.5 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
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        katie-533893

        How is it he manages to NOT know how much obama is spanking him in the polls? And how in the world is he not aware of the flack palin's been taking JUST for the Couric interview alone?

        I do not want a president with dementia...

        • 9 votes
        Reply#6 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
        Double Demon

        He KNOWS, he just can't ADMIT.

        • 16 votes
        #6.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
        JoulesBeef

        economy palin has a strong foundation.

        • 6 votes
        #6.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
        littlereddog

        Playtex?

        • 1 vote
        #6.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
        Aine MacDermot

        Maybelline.

        • 2 votes
        #6.4 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
        katie-533893

            Playtex?

            Maybelline.

        What? :: confused ::

          #6.5 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
          Sherry-283430

          Palin needs to stick to being a Soccer mom and Beauty contestant. Her t.v. interviews showed how ditsy she really is. We do not need that in the White House...we already have had too much of that and just look where we are now. UGH! Also, she is all for war and believes the end of the world is near. As a mayor and Governor Palin did things that showed constant abuse of power. God help us if she and Mccain get elected. You just think things are lousy now.

            #6.6 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 6:09 PM EDT
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            Big Al-448822

            Mc'senile does have a very short fuse if you noticed during the debate he didn't look at Obama.. I think he truly hates him and if he looked at him Mc'oldie would have blowen a fuse right there on that stage...YEP that's someone I want running our country. They must have told him don't look at him just copy a little of Obama strong points and try make them look like your own.

            Jeez...come on people wake up ... we are not voting for best movie here this is our country we are talking about.

            Do we really want someone who pick his nurse for VP !!!!

            Big Al

            • 8 votes
            Reply#7 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
            libra7288

            Big Al,

            It's mighty gererous of you to refer to Sarah Palin as a nurse! LOL. Or did you mean, "nurse John McCain"? If that's what you meant, then by all means it makes sense that he picked her. Cindy's milk dried up 40 years ago!

            On a serious note, McCain clearly is suffering from PTSD and should obtain serious help for his issues. He should be utilizing the health care benefits we've all paid for since his release from the Hilton.

            • 6 votes
            #7.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
            Linda-279773

            it's been longer than the war, remember he is the son of a General so we have paid for it all of his life since birth.

            • 2 votes
            #7.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
            SuperSaiyan

            remember he is the son of a General

            Actually, McCain is the son and grandson of a Admiral...

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_mccain

            • 1 vote
            #7.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
            Sherry-283430

            Yes! You could tell it was difficult for Mccain to hold his temper  I was waiting for him to stroke out.

              #7.4 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 6:13 PM EDT
              Reply
              not over it

              Desperation is setting in. McCain is getting frustrated. I don't really blame him after seeing the polls this past two weeks. His bad attitude towards the press won't go well for him. He better be careful.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#8 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
              18zulu

              I wonder how Obama would react to Questions regarding William Ayers, and the crooked election fixing government funded left wing organization ACORN. And then followed up questions when his answers are vague and misleading.

              During your induction to the US Senate in 2004. Daniel Mudd then interim CEO of Fannie Mae gave a speech to the Black Caucus and begged you (his family) for help. What help did you provide Fannie Mae?

              In 2004 Fannie Mae and Franklin Raines were being scrutinized at Congressional Hearings. Why did your fellow Democrats support Raines and Freddie Mac? Did you not know President Bush recommended these hearings.

              Explain to us how the deal between you and Syrian Born Criminal Tony Rezko went down. You know the one where you bought your $1.65 million dollar Kenwood Home. And why you ended up buying another adjoining strip of land for $104,500 from the Rezko's.

              Then knowing this. Why did you not support John McCain when he gave his address to congress, proposing the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 on May 26, 2006. Especially since at that time the Democrats had the majority.

              But these are questions you will never hear asked..

              Remember Jonestown

              • 2 votes
              Reply#9 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
              sightseer-404010

              Did you watch the interview with O'Reilly? When asked the kinds of questions that you and a lot of others, including me, want answered, Obama was shouted down and talked over whenever he tried to answer with anything besides a simple "yes" or "no". That dang liberal biased MSM!

              • 4 votes
              #9.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
              18zulu

              As a matter of fact, I did. Bill did not have the time to drill down on his answers. He needs to asked these questions everyday, until he comes clean. He needed his feet held to the fire. Bill asked general questions and did not ask anything specific. He has been evasive giving generalized answers on all of these topics. Why would he not go on Hannity and Colmes. You've got fair and balanced questioning. If you have nothing to hide. And you know Katie Couric and Chuck Gibson would not ask these questions of the "The One"

              Just look at the difference in the way Obama was treated on the View Vs. how McCain was treated on the view.

              Why are there no Obama and Biden Jokes on SNL and believe there is plenty reason to make some up.

              • 1 vote
              #9.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
              sightseer-404010

              I don't watch The View, and would punch myself in the head if I did. The point is, general questions or not, Obama was not given opportunity to answer.

              • 1 vote
              #9.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:59 PM EDT
              RichardR

              Of course he wouldn't go on with Hannity, he doesn't want to be shouted down. FOX's hosts seem to think that loud = right.

              • 3 votes
              #9.4 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
              18zulu

              No, He is scared to be interviewed by Hannity. Not to worry he will have Colmes covering his back side. See Fair and Balanced.  

              He was not shouted down by BOR. BOR attempted to pin down the squirmer to answer the questions no other journalist has the wherewithal to ask.

              • 1 vote
              #9.5 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 6:05 PM EDT
              RichardR

              Actually he was shouted down by O'Rilley. Perhaps you haven't seen the video yet, you should take the time to watch it.

              I doubt Obama is scared of being interviewed by Hannity, in the same way that McCain isn't scared to be interviewed by Larry King... he just hasn't yet. Also, you are delusional if you think that FOX News is "fair and balanced". The are the most partisan, lying, one sided news network I have ever seen.

              I was listening to something on the BBC a while back and the guest said that while FOX News doesn't meet British standards for journalism and wouldn't be allowed to broadcast, Al-Jazeera does. Interesting, huh?

              • 4 votes
              #9.6 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
              gladbutterfly

              Hey, that is an interesting factoid. Thanks.

                #9.7 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
                Moved Cross Country

                Good Post #9 18 zulu...and questions that should be answered by Obama.

                  #9.8 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:33 AM EDT
                  sightseer-404010

                  I saw what I saw on O'reilly. The only "squirming" going on was in my living room, as I forced myself to sit through a horrible interview being done by a horrible interviewer. I kept hoping it would get better. It didn't. Then it was over.

                    #9.9 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 10:54 AM EDT
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                    AMERICANA2

                    SO WHO BROKE GWEN IIFILS ANKLE? REPTILES ARE DANGEROUS AND DESPERATE NOW. MAYBE THEY WOULD LIKE HANNITY TO MODERATE THE BIDEN/BARBIE DEBATE?

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#10 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
                    Trevor Fitzright

                    ARE WE HAVING A SHOUTING MATCH? I WIN!

                    So Gwen Ifil is unavailable for the debate? How convenient.

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:06 PM EDT
                    Trevor Fitzright

                    Is her ankle broken? I can't find anything about that.

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
                    Roy Batty

                    Is her ankle broken? I can't find anything about that.

                    It happened Monday, but she'll make the debate. Here ya go.

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:40 PM EDT
                    Trevor Fitzright

                    Thanks Roy!

                    • 1 vote
                    #10.4 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:18 AM EDT
                    Reply
                    MsHooterville

                    As an ex-McCainiac who rabidly supported him in 2000, I'm more than familiar with both his strengths and his weaknesses. They're both LOYALTY. He's loyal to the point of stupidity, and he'll fight to the death for the underdog. Sometimes the underdog doesn't deserve to win, but he fights for them just as ferociously.

                    That's why he's going down to Obama in the big match Nov. 4.

                    Mac will smugly console himself that he lost because he was too principled and too much of a "maverick" kind of in the same way Don McLean wrote, "Vincent, the world was never meant for someone as beautiful as you."

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#11 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
                    renard

                    There is a gigantic pass that Mccain has been given and he really has learned to take full advantage of it, and he he has become extremely adept at using his POW status. He interjects it in ways that forces you to overlook his faults an example of that would be his reference to that period of time that he spent where the care was not so great.

                    • 3 votes
                    #11.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
                    Reply
                    AZ Arnie M

                    John McCain always had that cranky side as well as an inability to take any criticism. So what is meant by "he turns irritable and sarcastic" ? He already is and was.
                    As far as 18 zulu's comment: You equate asking Sarah Palin what newspapers and magazines she reads equivalent to asking Obama about Ayers? Is that all you've got? It's old and tired and BS besides. Maybe they should ask Sarah what she thinks of Enron and Kenneth Lay instead of the softball questions, that anyone could answer, with the exception of Sarah Palin. Come on, how difficult is it to name a newspaper?

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#12 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
                    renard

                    Maybe Alaska doesn't have any newspapers or magazines.

                    • 3 votes
                    #12.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
                    watchoutforpirates

                    renard, they do have newspapers because they are not a foreign country. LOL! (Does that mean she thinks that foreign countries do not have newspapers, that newspapers and magazines are some strange American phenomenon?) She said this in a way that makes me think she had learned this just before the interview, and thought she might be dropping a real bomb on Katie.

                    One thing I am have not heard, (probably because I work the night shift and have to compete for computer time with my girlfriend when we get home) is anyone saying that her reading a magazine while waiting at the dentist is not the same as "reading 'em all". I can't help but picture her picking up a People magazine covering Brittany getting her head shaved, and thinking this is important enough to skip past the Time with Condi on the cover. (I admit it, I actually looked up that "event" and then searched through the Time site for the covers from Feb. 2007. That probably says a lot about me, but not anything I want to hear!) Did anyone else pick up on that? With her arm gesture it appeared to me that she was envisioning a table at some sort of medical office.

                    • 2 votes
                    #12.2 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 10:40 AM EDT
                    Reply
                    Pittsburgh Dan

                    Or name a Supreme Court case other than Roe V Wade?

                    Especially since Exxon VS the People of Alaska actually happened on her watch?

                    John is losing the measure of dignity the bulk of his life's work should provide him. He is a shell of the man we knew 10 years ago...and is dishonoring his own service to this nation by becoming that which he most used to despise:

                    A POLITICIAN.

                    • 6 votes
                    Reply#13 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
                    renard

                    You are wrong McCain was always a politician pretending to be a hero

                    • 2 votes
                    #13.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
                    watchoutforpirates

                    Dan, you said it perfectly! Thank you!

                      #13.2 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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                      18zulu

                      Arnie,

                      There will be more to come on this Ayers issue. Obama's ties to him are much more than his claims; As a guy who lives in his neighborhood and met a time or two. At who's house Obama launched his political career. Annenberg Challenge, Woods Foundation, ACORN all entwining.

                      The main question. Why would anyone who loves America want anything to do with a guy like Ayers, who was a terrorist against the United States. Regardless of your age at the time of his crimes. Once a terrorist always a terrorist.

                      You want to question McCain for his pick of Palin as his running mate.

                      I and all Americans should question Obama on his associations with the likes of these cats. Wright, Rezko, Ayers and corrupt ACORN. The second highest recipient of Fannie and Freddie donations in only three. Idolized Saul Alinsky.

                      You should never judge a politician by what he tells you. Because he will tell you what you want to hear. But you will get a excellent perspective of his true character by knowing who is friends are.

                      That being said; I'll take John and Sarah

                      de Oppresso Liber

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#14 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
                      AZ Arnie M

                      18 zulu

                      I do not believe evrything that politicians say in fact I don't really like politicians in general. They do tend to tell you what you want to hear. That would of course include John McCain.  I also belive that people see the world, and their political choices,  through their particular life circumstances and history.  I see the world one way you see the world differently.

                       I love my country as I am certain you do, but I try not to let the flag obscure my vision of the big picture. John McCain could have chosen Condy Rice for example not Sarah Palin. Did he really put our country first when choosing her? Was his a patriotic selection or expedient? Is she really who you want to be President should McCain die? Somehow I don't think so.

                      As for the Ayers issue; I don't like the guy either, or for that matter the Rev. Wright but I don't see them as a reason to say that Obama is not patriotic, love his country, or is any less an American as you or me. All the candidates seem to have some skeletons in the closet and there have been numerous scandals in the Reublican ranks over the last 8 years. But the main issue for me is who will most align with my world view and with what I think are important issues. John McCain and the Republicans don't align with that view. 

                      • 3 votes
                      #14.1 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:00 PM EDT
                      18zulu

                      Arnie,
                      To be quite honest with you I wouldn't care if John McCains running mate were Shaggy McNasty. I am voting for McCain not Sarah Palin. But you have to admit the press has not been kind to Palin. The press turned on Hillary as well.

                      I would much rather take a chance John McCain will not finish 1 term as president, than vote Obama.

                      Yes, I agree there have been Republicans involved in scandals. But none have equated to what Americans are dealing with today. This entire economical meltdown would not have occurred with out the democrats desire for social engineering. Placing and enforcing quotas on the numbers of subprime loans F&F needed to write.

                      The warning signs were there. Obama, during his induction to the senate in 04 received a brief from Mudd, CEO of Fannie Mae requesting help from congress, proclaiming the black caucus is like family. Yet Obama did nothing.

                      Bush attempted to fix this problem, held hearings and the democrats heaped praise on Raines and Fannie Mae. (Why?? Because FM met congress's quotas.)

                      McCain addressed the president in May 06, predicting there was going to be a meltdown. What did Obama and the rest of the congress do?

                      Obama is complicit in all of this. He has spent his adult life in the dirty politics of Chicago.

                      If it were ONLY Ayers. If it were ONLY& Wright. If it were ONLY Pfleger. If it wereONLY Rezko. If it were ONLY ACORN. Maybe that would just be an anomoly. Too many bad choices in friends.

                      Don't know if you saw Pelosi's and the rest of the Democrats actions during and after the house vote. Compound a Majority;Congress with a Democratic President. this country will be headed on a one way street to socialism. Welfare begets welfare.

                      We need someone who will shake up congress and break this partisanship. And Obama is not the guy. He didn't take a stand in the Illinois State Senate. He did very little in the US Senate. He stood on the sidelines, waiting like a hawk on how best to politically swoop down and take advantage of this economic crisis.

                      de Oppresso Liber

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.2 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:17 PM EDT
                      18zulu

                      Don't believe me Ayers is unrepentant? Take a look at his speech given to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, Nov 2006.

                      Must Read: Search Bill Ayers World Press World Education Forum NOV 06

                      Obama has close ties to this guy. America needs to wake up. Look at history, Socialism rarely survives.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.3 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
                      watchoutforpirates

                      To be fair, the Bush family has close ties to the Saudi royal family. Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers, and a nation that was once among the most enthusiastic state sponsors of terrorism (with money still gushing out of the country to support terrorism). If you are going to judge Obama by his association with Ayers/Wright/Rezko, did you or do you hold President Bush to the same standard? If you do, I can help you find the phone numbers and email addresses of your Senators and Representatives so you can ask them to start the impeachment.

                      All politicians, and all of us, have people in our past that disappointed us in some way or are embarrassing to us now. One of my best high school buddies, who turned into a scum bag, has spent time in prison for beating up his girlfriend. Does this make me more likely to beat up my girlfriend?

                      I disagree that socialism rarely survives because it is thriving in Western Europe. It is totalitarianism that adopts the guise of communism that rarely survives.

                      (Sorry to get so off topic here, but I had to say something. John McCain is losing it! Does that get me back on topic?)

                      • 3 votes
                      #14.4 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 11:02 AM EDT
                      sightseer-404010

                      Bush attempted to fix this problem..

                      ...And failed. Yet another fine example of leadership from this flunky president.

                      We need someone who will shake up congress

                      McCain has so few allies even among his own party that he will not be able to budge congress, no matter how much shaking he does. Isn't shaking up congress the responsibility of the voters?

                      Obama...stood on the sidelines

                      According to their voting records, McCain stood on the sidelines, too. He voted half as many times as Obama this year, and well over 100 fewer times than Biden.

                      • 3 votes
                      #14.5 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 11:25 AM EDT
                      18zulu

                      Pirates,

                      What are you talking about? "To be fair, the Bush family has close ties to the Saudi royal family".

                      How do compare a president associating with the Heads of State of another foreign country (especially one that ALL US Presidents have had an association with). To an up and comer like Obama associating with a KNOWN treasonous terrorist, an American hating reverend, A Syrian born criminal, and Jerry Kellman, protege of Saul Alinsky.

                      Not to mention training and and providing legal assistance to ACORN who coerced banks into writing bad loans. And just in case you haven't noticed the reason we are in this economic crisis. But I am sure you don't care ACORN is accused of multiple infractions of voter fraud.

                      SS You say it was McCains and Bushs weak leadership as a cause shows you do not have a clue as to how our Government works. Since the Exulted One possesses such awesome leadership traits. Where are the fruits of Obama's labor on diverting this crisis? HMMMMM He can talk all he wants about what he has done, but it doesn't add up his actions.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.6 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:56 PM EDT
                      18zulu

                      When is the last time you have spent any length of time in a Socialist Country? We could argue the fact on the success of such Socialist countries. Sweden probably being the most successful. But then again they have a population of 9 Mil.

                      In my observations and conversations with normal, middle class Germans is yes they have Medical, though I would hardly call it free. Germans pay nearly 50% in income taxes and 18% Value added sales tax on every purchase. Fuel tax is ridiculous. A gallon of gasoline there would cost approx. $8 per gallon. The welfare roles in Germany are increasing annually, enraging hard working citizens. The lesson to learn here is you don't get something for nothing.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.7 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 6:14 PM EDT
                      gladbutterfly

                      The lesson to learn here is you don't get something for nothing.

                      Then why is it that Bush, McCain, and Co are trying to give a lot of something to Wall St, for nothing.

                        #14.8 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
                        watchoutforpirates

                        18zulu,

                        What I was trying to get at was, if you are going to accuse Obama of guilt by association, then you need to hold all politicians to that standard.  The Bush family has well established financial and personal ties to the royal family in Saudi Arabia.  The royal family which was (and probably still is) one of the greatest supporters of Islamic terrorism.  The connection between these two families is not just because of their positions as heads of state, but because of their business ties with each other.  George H W Bush has had a long, and financially beneficial, relationship with a family that supported radical Islamic terrorism.  And it is your guy, John McCain, who believes that this is the most dangerous issue of our time.  If John really believes that, he should denounce the Presidents Bush because of their relationships with the House of Saud.

                        John McCain also, like the Bush family, has some troubling ties to terrorists.  He was a member of the US Council for World Freedom, a group that was giving support to the Contras in Nicaragua.  The support was being provided by this group while John was a board member.  The Contras killed thousands of innocent men, women, and children, terrorists for sure.  Your side is trying to tie Obama to the acts committed by a casual acquaintance of his, acts committed years before they met.  Surely you will then hold McCain to the same standard for acts being committed by the Contras, who were being supported by a group that McCain was a member of while these acts were being committed. 

                        My overall point, in short, is that you can not seriously believe Obama is somehow guilty by association if you do not also believe McCain and the Bush family are also guilty by association.  The acts committed by Ayers happened more than a decade before Obama met him.  The funding of terrorists by the House of Saud and the US Council for World Freedom was going on while Bush and McCain were connected to these people. 

                        One last thing, how do you like secessionists?  You know, like Sarah Palin's husband?

                          #14.9 - Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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                          Dave Anderson-504036

                          Gee, anyone think that McCain is getting that sinking (I'm getting crushed) feeling????

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                          Reply#16 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 6:21 PM EDT
                          katie-533893

                          woohoo text abilities! 

                          i know.. off topic.. im just so happy. :) 

                          mccain is ridiculously dense. 

                          see.. brought it back to the topic at hand ;) 

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                          Reply#17 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
                          B-online

                          No way would:

                          1)McCain pick this person, named Sarah, out of the blue (as his running mate) and defend her capability at all cost...with the low level of experience she has, or

                          2)apparently have the support of an entire political party (the Republican one) as the party's VP candidate...in this day and time....unless...................Palin is related to someone important. Possible?

                          Why are her kids not in school and able to run all over with their mom?  And, hey, I am a former PTA president and it surely does not qualify me to be Vice-President of the United States of America. 

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#18 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
                          fsubaseball

                          no way would?

                          buddy, its already happened.

                          seeing that interview/question&answer session..pshh, whatever you call it, with the DesMoinesRegister.

                          McCain physically looks oblivious to the fact that the polls show other. To me, I do not need another(likefather--likeson) US president oblivious to the outside world.. he should probably read those newspapers "Mayor" Palin reads. Or if she reads at all. Not quite sure, if there is a light in the attic with her. lol.

                          She and McCain seem to single/double handedly splitting up the GOP. (I) Wouldn't be surprised if in a few years  the GOP splits. Maybe a Progressive GOP and the Conservative GOP??

                          and hey! Being on PTA sure as hell gives you more than enough experience to be vice preisdent or president, within a heartbeat away. NOT! > lol.

                          comeon people. this is like a slow and steady death march for McPalin. They're are going nowhere. Obama deff. leads in PA, FL and OH. Hes got this in a bag. Lets just move to january, please.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#19 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:47 AM EDT
                          sedna

                          I'm beginning to think that McCain and Palin both only read Highlights magazine.   If tonight's debate doesn't go well for Palin, McCain may opt for her to have a family emergency that requires her to drop out of the race so he doesn't have to defend her anymore.  I'm not sure if his jaw or teeth can hold up to much more grinding and clenching.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#20 - Thu Oct 2, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
                          renard

                          You can parse it any way you want but the fact is apparent John McCain is not ready to lead America no where but deeper in to a toilet. The evidence mounts day by day that Mccain will lie and distort his words and positions trying to make himself into Obama Light. He lets Obama give a speech on some issue and somedays he uses part of it later in the afternoon,  just listen to some of his position speeches. He really went over the top when he tried to use Obamas ideas about the Bailout against him with his phony campaign  suspension. I listen to McCain and get sick thinking about the possibility that a real idiot is trying to ride into the white house on a 40 year old war story. And I personally caution the nation to ask John Mccain " what have you done for me lately " and if the nation answer the question objectively the answer will be absolutely nothing.

                            #20.1 - Fri Oct 3, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
                            Sherry-283430

                            So true....Vote for Obama/Biden to help us get out of this terrible mess G.W. and greed created.

                              #20.2 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 6:21 PM EDT
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                              B-online

                              Hey, we are irritable too...but for much different reasoning than good ol' John knows.  John McCain has already stated that he knows nothing about the internet, so maybe someone he pays to serve him will read this to *maybe* make him consider dropping all of this crazy talk about these happy, normal-sounding people named 'Joe Six-Pack' and 'Hockey Mom'.  Tell Sarah Palin that this particular 'Hockey Mom' is not speaking in fear...just disgust; for the way things are today,,,in this once-great land.  So,,,,as a long-time Republican, here goes:

                              Dear John:

                              I wish you much luck in your plight for leading us and defending us ('us' being those who live in the trenches and pay your way as a politician...through incessant taxation). My 'Joe Six-Pack' lives 5 hours away to be able to 'work at a real job' to pay taxes for our federal government to 'spend'.  He doesn't just show up for work whenever he feels like it (when he has nothing else on his agenda like you apparently do)...or when it is 'convenient' (like you apparently can).

                              I would like to have my own 'Joe Six-Pack' here by my side all the time to make my life more complete and productive...just like your running mate who mentions that term 'Joe Six-Pack' as some form of reference to real life. (Real life that I haven't seen much of in the past 2 years.  I figure there are others in the same boat...out in the trenches of that oft-mentioned group of people stuck in the middle class way of life.)

                              Recently, those who claim to have million-dollar companies are buying homes in middle class neighborhoods.  I guess this is in an effort to appear to be more 'Joe Six-Pack' and 'Hockey Mom'; ya know...the ones everyone is talking about?  It turns out?  Those millionaire types happen to be thieves.  With city government struggling to get by, local law enforcement isn't really too interested in taking on those thieves who might have an attorney or 3 to have the millionaire's case dismissed; so we just continue to pay in even more ways. 

                              And, dear John....my Joe Six-Pack was told by 'that big agency' who collects 'taxes' (and administers tax 'rules') that they are running six months behind in processing revised returns. (I guess they must need more money too...just like those banks.) But that, which that big tax-collecting agency should have already paid us, would be nice in the way of having my 'Joe-Six-Pack' better able to pay bills (and, of course, paying those higher taxes to help pay for your national healthcare plan).

                              It would be really nice if my 'Joe Six-Pack' and I could at least have a normal life with a normal job where we live with normal neighbors in our neighborhood, Mr. John McCain and Ms. Sarah Palin.  We haven't been able to excel in the last 10 years already, no matter how much money we seemingly bring in.  Costs have sky-rocketed and all of those banks you just helped out...just love to charge fees and interest...for those of us in the trenches.

                              Glad that you two are so carefree; so smug and nonchalant.  You carry those who are most valued to you...with you.  Others are not so fortunate.  That's right...you are not in the trenches of real life at all.  It's much easier to just 'talk' about the middle class and decide how we (in the trenches) will or will not be able to live through all of your planned legislation to cover the costs associated with whatever you might find important.  Should you win, don't forget us {the American people} like your predecessors definitely have.. when you get the keys to that place of entitlement allegedly owned by us, but definitely detached from our real way of life; that place called The White House.

                              Signed,  *A* Joe-Six-Pack and his wife, Hockey Mom

                                Reply#21 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
                                Sherry-283430

                                No hot headed, short fused war mongers or air head candidates that feel the end of the world is near. We need someone with a level head to get us through this mess G.W. and his team created.

                                  Reply#22 - Mon Oct 6, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
                                  Mass Graves

                                  When is the last time John McCain went to church?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#23 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
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