Post-debate polling favors Obama over McCain

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NASHVILLE — John McCain dismissively called rival Barack Obama "that one," Obama mocked McCain's "Straight Talk Express," and both left the debate stage to return to the campaign trail Wednesday.

CNN's national poll of debate watchers found that 54 percent said Obama did the best job, compared to 30 percent who said McCain performed better. While 51 percent of those polled said they had a favorable opinion of McCain, unchanged from before the debate started, 64 percent said they had a favorable opinion of Obama, up 4 percentage points from before the debate.

By more than a 2-1 margin, 65 percent to 28 percent, more people said they found Obama more likable than McCain during the debate, according to the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey.

On the question of who won the debate, a CBS News/Knowledge Networks poll of uncommitted voters found a similar result. Forty percent said Obama won, 26 percent said McCain won, and 34 percent thought it was a tie.

Playing off the second debate, the Obama campaign released a TV ad Wednesday that continued the criticism that McCain's health care plan included taxing employer-based health care benefits. "Instead of fixing health care, he wants to tax it," the ad says.

McCain's campaign, in turn, put out a TV spot contending that Obama promises nearly $1 trillion in new spending in the wake of the $700 billion financial rescue plan Congress approved. "Sound crazy? the ad asks. "It is."

It took just eight minutes into Tuesday's presidential debate for Republican candidate McCain to land the first blow, blaming Obama and Democrats for the collapse of mortgage giants Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

"They're the ones that, with the encouragement of Sen. Obama and his cronies and his friends in Washington, that went out and made all these risky loans, gave them to people that could never afford to pay back," McCain said.

Obama responded: "I've got to correct a little bit of Sen. McCain's history, not surprisingly. ... In fact, Sen. McCain's campaign chairman's firm was a lobbyist on behalf of Fannie Mae, not me."

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis has a stake in a Washington lobbying firm that received thousands of dollars a month from Freddie Mac until recently.

Davis is one of the many figures in both campaigns and near them who have been targeted as reasons why each should not be supported. As they head back on the road Wednesday, both campaigns say those associations would again be highlighted.

McCain running mate Sarah Palin has questioned Obama's ties to William Ayers, who 40 years ago was a member of the Weather Underground, a radical group that claimed responsibility for a series of bombings. Obama had a limited relationship with Ayers, who lives in the same neighborhood and teaches at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Democrats have criticized McCain for his role in a 1980s banking scandal. He was one of five senators who had accepted contributions from Charles Keating Jr., a real estate speculator and savings and loan owner. Keating's institution failed and cost many investors in uninsured financial products their life savings.

Neither figure came up during Tuesday's debate. Nor did either candidate call the other a liar, a familiar charge in this contentious campaign.

The closest: "You know, Sen. McCain, I think the Straight Talk Express lost a wheel on that one," Obama said.

During a discussion of an energy bill McCain offered up a two-word phrase that drew a quick reaction from the Obama campaign.

"You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one," McCain said, pointing at his opponent.

Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said after the debate, "John McCain was all over the map on the issues, and he is so angry about the state of his campaign that he referred to Barack Obama as 'that one' — last time he couldn't look at Sen. Obama, this time he couldn't say his name."

McCain also suggested some evasiveness on Obama's part: "Nailing down Sen. Obama's various tax proposals is like nailing Jell-O to the wall. There has been five or six of them and if you wait long enough, there will probably be another one."

In one pointed confrontation on foreign policy, Obama bluntly challenged McCain's steadiness. "This is a guy who sang 'bomb, bomb, bomb Iran,' who called for the annihilation of North Korea — that I don't think is an example of speaking softly."

That came in response to McCain's accusation that Obama had threatened to invade Pakistan.

McCain said his rival "was wrong about Iraq and the surge. He was wrong about Russia when they committed aggression against Georgia. And in his short career he does not understand our national security challenges. We don't have time for on-the-job training."

Obama countered with a trace of sarcasm, "There are some things I don't understand. I don't understand how we ended up invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, while Osama Bin Laden and al Qaida are setting up base camps and safe havens to train terrorists to attack us. That was Senator McCain's judgment and it was the wrong judgment."

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McCain campaign: http://www.johnmccain.com/

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{"commentId":3358001,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

yeah good luck with that mccain

your a shell of the man that you once were.

my dog could beat you in a debate.

maybe 4 years ago.. i would worry bu now.. with the mccain of 2008.. it's like watchign a fighter that has fought one too many fights.. it's disturbing to watch a great man fall sooo far. He really shoudl have retird or staid in the senate, where he could have hidden his mental slow downs.

This guy doesnt wan t to fight anymore..that is obvious..this is a man that should be out fishing, enjoying the rest of his life.

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  • 9 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
{"commentId":3358169,"authorDomain":"jason-knotts"}

I agree, it is really showing lately...

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  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
{"commentId":3360675,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

Trailing Obama, McCain hopes to gain in debate

My eye caught the headline and effect of leading with the words, Trailing Obama.  But then my spin meter is set to extreme cynic so every little thing raises an eyebrow subliminally!  *smirk*

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  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
{"commentId":3361296,"authorDomain":"logdump"}

Barack Obama has opened up a nine-point lead over John McCain, 51% to 42%, in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking. That matches Obama’s largest lead of the campaign to date.
In addition only 9% of Americans think we are heading in the right direction which must be the percentage of idiots in the country. This is the lowest total ever recorded

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  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 4:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":3362394,"authorDomain":"aslin"}

That can change you know. Two weeks go he was trailing MCcain.

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    #1.4 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3362455,"authorDomain":"aslin"}

    This man has a lot of fight, fire and passion in him because he truly loves this country.

    {"commentId":3362455,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"aslin"}
      #1.5 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:53 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3362752,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

      Elore...This man has a lot of fight, fire and passion in him because he truly loves this country.

      To whom does the pronoun refer?  As it stands any reader could attribute it to either.

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      • 4 votes
      #1.6 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 6:08 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":3358147,"authorDomain":"mightyblogger"}

      The winner of the debate will be the American people.Especially those with enough guts to ask questions in front of 60 million or so people.

      Positions have already solidified, few are left who have not made up their minds.
      There are just too many newly registered Democrats for Senator McCain to overcome.

      This is an opportunity for Senator McCain to save some face, not his chance at winning the elections.

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      • 9 votes
      Reply#2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3359318,"authorDomain":"cortes-rafael"}

      I agree with you 100% PNB. I think the best thing he can do is to present himself to the American people in a different political outfit just like Palin did on her debate. Although the majority of viewers, analysts and voters think overwhelmingly that she lost that debate, I think it actually helped her image as a public figure. McCain needs to be thinking in doing something that will safely direct him to the future. This endeavor he took upon a few months back now nears its end.

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        #2.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 3:33 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3362490,"authorDomain":"aslin"}

        Yes it will end winning.

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          #2.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:54 PM EDT
          {"commentId":3384731,"authorDomain":"cortes-rafael"}

          It will end in a frustrated and unrealized effort to convince smart and undecided voters that what this ticket brings is NOTHING favorable to the needs of this country.

          Do you really think that polls go up by themselves? Voters are way smarter than this and they believe that Palin and McCain are NOT the answer to our current mess.

          For the sake of this country, I really hope that you are proven wrong.

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          • 1 vote
          #2.3 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 3:16 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":3358350,"authorDomain":"annoyed-373400"}

          McCain's best bet, Reed said, is to show voters "who has the best solutions."

          Gee, shouldn't that be the entire point of debates?  Funny how something so rudimentary seems to be the best new logic for these guys.  Gotta love where American politics has gone.

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          • 6 votes
          Reply#3 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
          {"commentId":3358971,"authorDomain":"geejay"}

          Wait, I thought the McCain campaign said their best best was to go 100% negative on Obama.

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          • 3 votes
          #3.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 3:17 PM EDT
          {"commentId":3359613,"authorDomain":"wynbro1"}

          He is gonna try that just now??? What he been wasting his time doing for past 12 months...

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          • 1 vote
          #3.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
          {"commentId":3361328,"authorDomain":"logdump"}

          In addition to our time ....

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          • 1 vote
          #3.3 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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          {"commentId":3358538,"authorDomain":"phillips-brian"}

          If McCain starts to tank, watch out for Plain coming from behind to whack Obama over the head with a folding chair.

          Brokaw supplexes Palin for the win!

          This is going to be GREAT!!!!!

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          • 3 votes
          Reply#4 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
          {"commentId":3361326,"authorDomain":"clariflutist73"}

          watch out for Plain coming from behind to whack Obama over the head with a folding chair.

          Brokaw supplexes Palin for the win!

          Tuesday! Tuesday! Tuesday! Come one and come all! There will be excitement for everyone!  A real family event! WWPD (World Wide Presidential Debate) Smack Down 08!

          *I can just hear the announcements in the voice of the WWF guy now.....*

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            #4.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":3358778,"authorDomain":"anthwhite"}

            OK...  First off the pic is of stagehands standing up truss, 12" box truss to be more specific.  Not scaffolding.

            Other than that, I am burned out on the politics.  They are both the same anyway.

            Go into the polling booth, flip a coin.  Same thing.  Unless you vote for a 3rd party.  That would shake things up.

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            • 1 vote
            Reply#5 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
            {"commentId":3359555,"authorDomain":"rmbrest"}

            I'm with ya Broken, doesn't matter, D or R. Either one guarantees higher taxes and more government. Unfortunately, there are too many sheep and not enough wolves, so most will vote the same as they always did instead of researching the other candidates in the field.

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              Reply#6 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
              {"commentId":3359621,"authorDomain":"kungfupanda"}

              McCain's ads seem to be way more negative than Obama's...

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              • 1 vote
              Reply#7 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
              {"commentId":3359644,"authorDomain":"Kimba"}

              One thing I noticed in the first debate was that McCain always butted in to make sure that he got the last word on every single question, no matter who went first. It didn't do him any good in the end, but I'm wondering if he is going to try to do the same thing tonight. He is becoming nothing but a frustrated old man who thinks he is entitled to the Presidency.

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              • 1 vote
              Reply#8 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 3:46 PM EDT
              {"commentId":3361399,"authorDomain":"logdump"}

              After that debacle in the VP with Palin I think this one will be tighter. If one guy would tell McCain I am not your friend it would make my day.

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                #8.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
                {"commentId":3362533,"authorDomain":"aslin"}

                As much as Obama is entitled.

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                  #8.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:56 PM EDT
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                  {"commentId":3360220,"authorDomain":"robnyack"}

                  While the townhall format is the format McCain likes best, it comes at a horrible time for him.  His new dark nasty theme of trying to create a dark mystery about Obama....."what do you really know about Obama?   Hangs out with terrorists.....maybe he is a terrorist"   That's going to be hard to pull off in this setting

                  That will be poison to the people in attendence.  That kind of nastiness can only be played out in a more traditional debate setting.   He goes too far with this new theme of his, the audience could turn on him.

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                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#9 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":3363483,"authorDomain":"wfcmchicago"}

                  It seems that all of the questions have already been looked over and the audience is not allowed follow up questions. I for one would love to see the gloves taken off, let the people ask the hard questions! It would be awesome to see someone ask McCain if he can back up all of his negative rhetoric.

                  A town hall meeting in this time of economic melt down can't be good for the type of campaign the Republicans want to run; avoid talking about how to fix the economy and attack Obama.

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                  #9.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 6:58 PM EDT
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                  {"commentId":3360760,"authorDomain":"david-ciulla"}

                  Maybe he will trip and fall

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                    Reply#10 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":3360889,"authorDomain":"proscribe"}

                    Let's watch to see if Obama can talk without a script in front of him or a tele-prompter. Don't be surprised if you hear his usual er's! uh's! um's!... sometimes he's laughable when he can't speak straight without mumbling... It IS going to be fun regardless which one comes out ahead. 90 million people expected to watch...WOW!!!

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                      Reply#11 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":3361502,"authorDomain":"mlangieri"}

                      Likewise, if we took McCain's little 3 X 5 cards away from him... he wouldn't know what to say because he's basically brain dead when it comes to economic issues.  He'll be the one asking Brokaw for a "lifeline" tonight... hoping he can call Phil Gramm, the Mesiah of Deregulation & Enron Loopholes who McCain worships. I'm sure Senator Obama is well-versed on all the ECONOMIC issues and will win this debate handily if they stick to the topic.

                      Definition of "ASSOCIATION" could include:  John McCain hanging out with convicted felon Charles Keating while Keating was fleecing Americans for $3.4 Billion.   McCain sat in the getaway car with four other congressmen who all should've gone to jail... but they were busy trying to get Federal Regulators to look the other way while Keating stuffed the money in the trunk.  McCain and child bride Cindy also vacationed seven (7) times in Keating's Caribbean getaway (no pun intended) estate.

                      Obama was EIGHT (8) years old when Ayres did those nasty things to protest American's involvement in the Vietnam war.  Now he's a crusty old English Professor who sat on the board of a conservative REPUBLICAN-Financed charity with Obama.  I'd hardly call that "associating" if we use the McCain-Keating Yardstick.

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                      • 4 votes
                      #11.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":3361547,"authorDomain":"logdump"}

                      All Politicians do that Remember Reagan... at times he seemed lost. He was called the great Communicator but when questioned he did the same thing. They have to think how to answer the question off the top of their head. Nixon Gore GW man talk about about a stutterer and then he fouled up the answers after he thought about it.

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                        #11.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":3362565,"authorDomain":"aslin"}

                        Edward Arnold- I hate those er's! uh's! um's!... Why do they say he such a great speaker when he stumbles so much.

                        {"commentId":3362565,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"aslin"}
                          #11.3 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:58 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":3364720,"authorDomain":"huskiesanj"}

                          Mr Taxachusetts, the home of socialism, welcome. Get your facts right, no one denied that Obama was 8 when the terrorist was running around hating on America. It was the fact he associated with this demon to get his career started, he was still hating America, he still does, to this day, he does not regret what he did, fact is, according to his wife, they should have done more. All of this when Obama was starting his career, helped by a non repentant terrorist, the focus is on what happened at this time, kinda helped form his fledgling ideology, and that doesn't scare you? Anyway, it was the 3 Dems that paid dearly for the Keating episode, Mcain took his beating and apologized..................what's Obama gonna do?

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                            #11.4 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":3368647,"authorDomain":"debbkay81"}

                            To much stuttering occurred with "Osama:  tonight, maybe he didn't get top in his class after all!!

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                              #11.5 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 11:06 PM EDT
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                              {"commentId":3361560,"authorDomain":"starr36"}

                              Can't wait to hear Obama's er's,uh's and um's tonight.He would make a great Actor but definitly not a President.The thought of Obama as President without  much experience is so frightening.

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                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#12 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":3362660,"authorDomain":"aslin"}

                              I can't understand why people think he its better suited to fix the economy. What has he done during all his life apart from writing two books about himself and flip flopping as a legislator in Illinois?. There is a great video in youtube about Obamas flops.

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                                #12.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 6:03 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":3362832,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

                                Yeah, you know, if people cared about uh's and um's, Dubya would never have been President.  Sometimes people overlook such things and focus on....wait for it....wait for it....the substance.

                                Granted with Dubya they got plenty of the first and none of the latter.You know, seeing as how McCain has had a personality transplant, I don't honestly think he has any more experience than Obama.  

                                The McCain of eight years ago may have - but this new Neo-Con Frankenstein?  Not so much.  He has polling.  And....Palin.

                                Because, yeah, she's who you want a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

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                                • 3 votes
                                #12.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 6:12 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":3362870,"authorDomain":"chasing"}

                                There is a great video in youtube

                                I'm sorry.  I didn't quite hear you.  Keating says what?

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                                • 3 votes
                                #12.3 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":3364453,"authorDomain":"huskiesanj"}

                                Missing the entire point there Chas......................................who in the world would want Pelosi #3.............................................that is scary, end of the world scary!

                                {"commentId":3364453,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"huskiesanj"}
                                  #12.4 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
                                  {"commentId":3386351,"authorDomain":"david-ciulla"}

                                  And you had such a great run with the Bushes

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                                    #12.5 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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                                    {"commentId":3361650,"authorDomain":"mlangieri"}

                                    The thought of a 72 year-old criminal like McCain and Caribou Barbie anywhere near the White House scares me more than Freddy Kruger.  McCain should've gone to jail with Keating... he actually tried to coerce Federal Regulators to back off on Keating while $3.4 billion was being stolen.  Doesn't anyone care?  The pot is calling the kettle black.

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                                    • 4 votes
                                    Reply#13 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:17 PM EDT
                                    {"commentId":3362678,"authorDomain":"aslin"}

                                    Criminal? Can you cite any facts?

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                                      #13.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 6:04 PM EDT
                                      {"commentId":3368809,"authorDomain":"debbkay81"}

                                      Would you mind looking up the criminal records on ""Osama - Obama" before you start exercising your fingers? You just might learn something! 

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                                        #13.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 11:09 PM EDT
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                                        {"commentId":3362201,"authorDomain":"cricketticket"}

                                        When is the last time John McCain went to church?

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                                          Reply#14 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 5:42 PM EDT
                                          {"commentId":3362598,"authorDomain":"all4peace4all"}

                                          Senator McCain,
                                          If my thank you note for fixing the economy arrives late, sorry. I'm saving for a stamp.
                                          I was watching the DOW crash another 500 points today and much like your favorite hockey mom I could not help but scream: Scoreboard!!!
                                          I know John, all you were charged with was "poor judgement " so many years ago, and who needs judgement with the walls and streets on fire.
                                          And the adultery, Iran Contra, lobbyist connections should not be held against you because you flew back to DC to prove "country first" and fix my 80yr. old Mom's retirement.
                                          She wants to thank you too, but she is at the grocery store...applying for work.
                                          And please tell Gov. Chatty Cathy that Afghanistan is not a neighboring country and that Ayers and the Rev. are minor concerns when our economy is back to Savings and Loan Scandal days. Thanks again and payday is Friday so I should have a stamp real soon,
                                          All4peace

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                                          • 3 votes
                                          Reply#15 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 6:00 PM EDT
                                          {"commentId":3364361,"authorDomain":"huskiesanj"}

                                          All right, Ok, I hope most of us conservatives in here get it, we have lost, plain and simple, the writing is on the wall. Enough bashing, you can prove nothing that you typed, leave the man alone, his running mate too. No one, not me or any other trash talking republican can say what the future brings, niether can you or your trash talking liberals. Sift through all the garbage, you see Obama one way, I see him another, doesn't make either of us correct. I feel the last 8 years have been fairly decent, the last 2 of it , not so good. Iraq, well, not a good decision, however, we are there and we need to make an appropriate exit. We all can agree radicalism, fundementalism is not going to go away, they are a dire threat to the way you and I live. Talk and treaty is no way to deal with these people, they do not care, they hate you and I, so what's to be done? That's a catch 22 for Obama, and I am truly sorry he is left with that decision..................he just better make the right one. 

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                                          • 1 vote
                                          #15.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
                                          {"commentId":3386404,"authorDomain":"david-ciulla"}

                                          Do you think I could put my note with yours.... I am not able to save for a stamp.. have to spend the entire check on food and gas.

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                                            #15.2 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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                                            {"commentId":3362988,"authorDomain":"gerald-dennis"}

                                            McCAIN is looking tired and frustrated, and it's time for someone new not linked to that era of decadence and dark dealings.No one says that Obama will be perfect, but which president ever was? It's time for a difference. Obama wants to end the war, and McCain is prepared for 100 years in Iraq. You tell me which is saner given the reality of what we know?

                                            The economy is crashing and if we trust McCain we all lose. All he can do is hurl slander and insults at the Obama campaign whilst not explaining how he plans to effectvely tackle the current situation. Do you hear any suggestions from him...thought not.

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                                            Reply#16 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 6:22 PM EDT
                                            {"commentId":3363957,"authorDomain":"huskiesanj"}

                                            Ok, I'm gonna sit back and watch everyone try to fight out of this one. We have a presidential election on Nov 4th, there are a few in here that get it, but the rest of you, does it really matter? Mcain has basically lost this election, not because of what he said or did, but because, for the only reason, he is a republican. So many uneducated voters will be going to the poll this year just to kick the republicans out, if ya feel that way, that's great, but not a real good reason to vote, it may be for that reason that I won't vote, I haven't decided yet. Obama will get in, and what will he do for the American public? Think about this one real hard, it's not that hard to figure out. The answer: NOTHING. Why is that the answer? Well, before you lefties get all defensive on this, he can't, congress can't, they don't have the money. His health plan, dead (it was dead anyway), his taxation plan, dead, his foreign policy, well, we all know that it's a joke anyway, infrastructure plan, dead, any other plans he may have had for the doting media and public.......................there all dead. The lefties cry about the size of the deficit, before you socialist go back to Clinton and the surplus, dig real deep, there never was a surplus, if his adminstration spends one drop, the deficit rises, so how does anyone win here? Raise the corporate tax, not a good way to go, the 35 or so percent we are at right now has driven jobs out of this country, and yeah, lefties, it's the biggest if not the only reason. Tax income over $250K, whew, what a mistake that would be, say goodbye to small and medium business, they wouldn't be able to afford to survive in such a hostile climate. Taxing the "rich" is not the answer. Hmmmmmm, now that question by Mcain in the first debate makes sense, doesn't it "Ask him his definition of rich, Jim."? The Bush administration turned left on me, he betrayed alot of conservatives, increasing government and spending like crazy. That brings me to wartime presidents, in the 1900's one truly republican president brought us into action, that would be Bush #1 in 1991, wasn't overly costly, for a very good reason and it was quick. All other wars or police actions the USA was involved in were brought on by democrats, or the ideology anyway (Bush #2 was a sell out traitor to his party, therefore Democrat), WWI, Wilson, WWII, FDR, Korea, Truman, Vietnam, Kennedy,  move toward recent times Bush #1 Gulf War, Traitor Bush #2 our current situation, not a good record. I will give you lefties your due, only 2 Republicans pulled us out of conflict, Nixon and Bush#1, who was it that said the right are war mongers? Historical fact doesn't seem to follow that statement. See, I can look back in history too, put the blame where I want and spin anything I wish, doesn't mean it is true. The good thing here is that no one can fight historical fact, so there isn't an arguement, I like it that way. Some of the worst times in history can be pinned on Democrats, but so can some of the good times the same is to be said about Republicans. So, where is all of this bickering coming from? We all know it's the media, but ignore that for a sec. I applaud Sen Obama and his fight to win the American Presidency, however, he comes in at a time where he and his congress are powerless to improve anything domestically, that is a shame. The fear to core republicans with this dilemna is the rampant spread of nationalization (socialism), business will fail, govt. steps in, no jobs are available, govt. steps in, with an Obama administration and his shown form of ideology, it's just real scary. FDR helped us out for almost the entire 30's decade, the war happened and his his fill in, Truman, unleashed the free market that is truly the USA, all though his government hampered the american people in many ways, the fledgling free market was ready to roar. The difference, I fear, is that FDR knew government had to be pushed out of the picture sooner or later, he knew government could not possibly afford giving "handouts" to his constituents forever, does Obama realize this? I surely hope so. This is open for discussion, intelligent truthful bashing would be appreciated.

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                                            Reply#17 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
                                            {"commentId":3386649,"authorDomain":"david-ciulla"}

                                            I have to say.. you are the FIRST republician that actually made sence..

                                            Thanks for you intellgent comments.... it was well worth the read....

                                            Taking a step back, WHOEVER gets into the office, is gonna have a hell of a time..

                                            May God help them

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                                              #17.1 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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                                              {"commentId":3367372,"authorDomain":"dumbboys"}

                                              McCain looked like a puppet and wouldn't SHUT UP! And if the Government even THINKS about buying up mortgages to bail out these people who overpayed for their house while making everyone else pay for it, I'LL @!$%# A HUGE TWINKIE! I don't even own a house!

                                              This country if SO FU**ED!

                                              {"commentId":3367372,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"dumbboys"}
                                                Reply#18 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 10:40 PM EDT
                                                {"commentId":3386723,"authorDomain":"david-ciulla"}

                                                Easy Cowboy...

                                                That is not the case with EVERONE.

                                                Not everyone bought a home they could not afford, some had a home... had a great job, then lost their job due to the economy or health reasons.... then slumpted on their mortages.... This for me is my 3rd job in 2 years... I have gone through 2 lay offs.

                                                So please dont put everone in the same basket... it is not fair...

                                                {"commentId":3386723,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"david-ciulla"}
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                                                #18.1 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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                                                {"commentId":3367779,"authorDomain":"msmommamia"}

                                                The cause of the crisis was greed.

                                                Who is a party for social justice and who is a party that supports greedy people?  Well they both might.  But in my experience, greed gets best payback from a GOP leader.

                                                {"commentId":3367779,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"msmommamia"}
                                                  Reply#19 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 10:48 PM EDT
                                                  {"commentId":3367833,"authorDomain":"msmommamia"}

                                                  McCain saying "my friend" is irritating.

                                                  {"commentId":3367833,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"msmommamia"}
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                                                  Reply#20 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 10:49 PM EDT
                                                  {"commentId":3368011,"authorDomain":"creaseyjr"}

                                                  1. Most of the answers were the same as in the last debate.

                                                  2. McCain made a better connection with the audience.

                                                  3. Obama was killed on the Russia question.

                                                  4. Obama avoided answers on the first several rounds of questions.

                                                  5. McCain has to hit hard.

                                                  6. This was McCain's forum.

                                                  7. McCain won.

                                                  {"commentId":3368011,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"creaseyjr"}
                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  Reply#21 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 10:52 PM EDT
                                                  {"commentId":3368139,"authorDomain":"rk61979"}

                                                  what do you have to say to "THAT ONE" by McCain? That was insulting FYI, and McCain did NOT win with such an arrogant/condescending comment.

                                                  {"commentId":3368139,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"rk61979"}
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                                                  #21.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 10:55 PM EDT
                                                  {"commentId":3368180,"authorDomain":"rk61979"}

                                                  McCain didn't hit anything hard. It wasn't out of the park. He was OK, and he was comfortable. But, he didn't give a GAME-CHANGING performance.

                                                  {"commentId":3368180,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"rk61979"}
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                                                  #21.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
                                                  {"commentId":3368996,"authorDomain":"debbkay81"}

                                                  Total agreement!

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                                                    #21.3 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 11:13 PM EDT
                                                    {"commentId":3372680,"authorDomain":"misterebay1"}

                                                    DR ROY

                                                    What a joke mccain won .... you must not have been watching what the rest of us saw ... or noticed the poll results ... he lost big time ... like he will in the election .

                                                    {"commentId":3372680,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"misterebay1"}
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                                                    #21.4 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 1:47 AM EDT
                                                    {"commentId":3386760,"authorDomain":"david-ciulla"}

                                                    Absolutely not

                                                    What debate were you watching?

                                                    {"commentId":3386760,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"david-ciulla"}
                                                      #21.5 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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                                                      {"commentId":3368093,"authorDomain":"rk61979"}

                                                      "THAT ONE" - Hey GOP, FYI, that was very insulting how McCain called Obama "THAT ONE".

                                                      F--K you, GOP supporters. You're calling Obama arrogant? What the f--k do you have to say for that? That was VERY arrogant by McCain to call Obama "THAT ONE" during the debate.

                                                      {"commentId":3368093,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"rk61979"}
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                                                      Reply#22 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 10:53 PM EDT
                                                      {"commentId":3368948,"authorDomain":"debbkay81"}

                                                      Hey I call them Osama - Bid Laden, yeah THAT ONE, oh yeah, actually that is TWO, which one of them is worse is the question.  McCain insulting, get real....

                                                      {"commentId":3368948,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"debbkay81"}
                                                        #22.1 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 11:12 PM EDT
                                                        {"commentId":3369238,"authorDomain":"rk61979"}

                                                        What Deb? Can you please write a coherent sentence? I don't even understand your message back to me. Clarify please.

                                                        {"commentId":3369238,"threadId":"381526","contentId":"1964015","authorDomain":"rk61979"}
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                                                        #22.2 - Tue Oct 7, 2008 11:19 PM EDT
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                                                        {"commentId":3372584,"authorDomain":"misterebay1"}

                                                        Did you notice mcbush had to write down the questions asked him and made brokaw repeat them and wrote them down before an answer !!! Slow minded ... with no memory ... and a brainless Palin to take over when he crashes and burns .... could you imagine her in the white house with her finger on the nuclear trigger ????  She may be pretty ... but oh sooooooo dumb ! President Palin .... WHAT A JOKE !!!!!!  God help the world ! And mcbush/mccain's "that one " remark was like a little kid and with that stupid smile he has on his face .... kinda evil looking smile !

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                                                          Reply#23 - Wed Oct 8, 2008 1:40 AM EDT
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