Fineman: Obama targeting McCain's own state?

Socialism. We can that the Repubs for this. Voted for the bailout and bigger government not to mention Mccain wants to buy default mortgages making bankers very happy. Uncle same will buy your business and house. Wow we are becoming Little China under Mccain. I might as well quit my job. Mccain will buy my house and give my welfare kids a voucher to go to private school. I will laugh at all those suckers going to work to pay my bills.

Smart, smart campaign.  You don't cash in your chips before the game is over.

Jack Baum, did you return the $600.00 socialist rebate Bush paid out of Government funds?? You were "drowning" in taxes then while he lowered the tax on the higher income earners?? What changed for you that the rest of us didn't receive?? The Bush "rescue" buying out the loans and propping up the lenders isn't socialism?? The government according to Bush will now own shares in these Institutions and have a seat at the table of these companies, but won't vote.  Wow, is that not socialist?? What does the govenment have to own before you admit that the GOP is guilty of socialism?? If they monitor your phone and e-mail in the name of National security, isn't that socialism, more likely Communism. But, to you guys, they're only monitoring those Un-American Democrats. What have you got against a Black man being President. Does his skin not look like yours?? Do you eat at a Chinese, Italian, Greek, or any other ethic restaurant?? Or you worried they might poison a bigot?? What makes whites the only "real" Americans and of that group only those who are Republicans?? The world has seen superior races come and go, mostly go. It'll be a better world when racists and bigots are gone.

Jack:

Thanks for your sarcasm which is dry and humorless. You can spread the fear all you want.Your political hero, George MacCain said " Middle class is anyone making under 5 million a year". You are very fake and unrealistic. 

dal- you should educate yourself before you post. It will prevent you from looking like a fool (again). Twice in the last 2 years legislation was introduced that would have reigned in Freddie-Mac and Fannie-Mea's unsafe lending practices. Both measures were killed in commity by the democrats. What the DEMOCRATICALLY controlled Senate and House did by passing the Wall Street bail-out is not socialism. It is the very definition of communism. The tax and social policies the Messiah is proposing are based on Marxism. As in "From each according to their ability. To each according to their need."

You should be ashamed of how you referred to Powell.  He is a great American who served our country faithfully.

Jack Baum, stop being so ignorant. Obama campaign know how to use our money wisely. I trust Obama more than I come every trust McSame and YourPain.

Lets see - we independents and demos send little monies to Obama because McCain infuriates us so (everytime I get angry at McCain and his disqusting remarks I send more money to Obama, methinks everyone else does also) - so he gets $150 million - methinks McCain has angered alot of people....

But the GOP spends $150,000 on Palins wardrobe....  and you repubs wonder why McCain is loosing - its because he isnt spending his money properly which is just ANOTHER SIGN of a bad presidential leader - he cant control his own GOP....  $150,000 WOULD HAVE HELPED ALOT OF PEOPLE other than a wardrobe...

Dmac - STOP SAYING FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS THERE HAS BEEN A DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED CONGRESS - THAT IS A LIE.... you have had a basically 49.5% republican vs a 50.5% democratic congress (I give LIARMANN the .5 when in reality he is only an shill for Israel, he will never get re-elected)  WITH A LAME-DUCK PRESIDENT WIELDING VETO POWER OVER ANY LEGISLATION HE DOESNT LIKE... so NO we have NOT had a democratically controlled congress....

Everytime I see this lie posted it INFURATES me - THIS TIME AROUND HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A DEMOCRATICALLY CONTROLLED CONGRESS TO PUT A STOP TO THIS RAMPANT BIG-BUSINESS RIP-OFF OF AMERICA...  and with a democratic President to boot we WILL FINALLY see some true legislation...

Dal -that is the single most ignorant statement of the day.  The democrats passed virtually all social legislation.  They brought social security out of private trust.  they invented the subprime.  The welfare state was born under LBJ.  Today 50% of entire cost of government is medicare and social security.  McCain has passed nothing on the books that resembles socialization.  Yeah, it was a bad plan by McCain.  But, to make your statement, you must be ignorant of history and your government,  Hell, it was Gore that broke a tie vote to make social security taxable.  Carter stopped the spending cap on congress.

Obama would have you believe that he, not science in the private sector wil pick the right future for alternative fuel.  He also says that it is better to bring tax dollars through a bloated and expensive government rather than leaving them in the private sector.  He said that he believed in re-distribution.  Guy, that's Karl Marx.

Every major piece of bueacracy from department of education to title nine came from the democrats.  They stopped drilling for energy.  They interned the Japanese in WW2.

it is not a blessing to be ignorant.

Larry-John McCain likes social security he has been collecting his social security check for 7years. There must have been many ignorant Republican presidents in the last 40 years we have had 28 years under repubs. If all these things were going wrong I can't for the live of me figure out why one of them didn't get a little mavrickee and correct the problems.I guess this is just a "stay the course" republican presidents way.Mavrick John, what was he doing all those years? One more thing I really disagree with some of your conjecture as I am sure you disagree with mine.

All of you following that old man with his OLD outdated accusations of COMMUNISM & SOCIALISM need to get a life or at least a brain breather of some kind. America HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THAT ERA OF LABELING EVERYBODY A COMMUNIST THAT DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND GUESS WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT TIME!

COMMUNIST! COMMUNIST! COMMUNIST! EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK YOU SEE A COMMUNIST! UP THAR, THAR'S A COMMUNIST! OVER YONDER, A COMMUNIST!

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO START FEARING SOMEONE BREAKING IN OUR HOMES, PULLING US OUT OF BED AND ARRESTING US FOR BEING A COMMUNIST AGAIN!

WHO REMEMBER THOSE TIMES? DO YOU REALLY WANT TO ALLOW THE McCAIN CAMP TO TAKE US BACK THERE????? WE ARE ENJOYING SPEAKING OPENLY ON THESE BLOGS, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT UP!

THIS CALL FOR TAKING US BACK TO THOSE TIMES WILL RESULT IN YOU GIVING UP YOUR FREEDOMS OF SPEECH OUT OF FEAR OF BEING ARRESTED AND TRIED FOR TREASON AGAINST AMERICA! THIS IS THE LOWEST POINT IN McCAIN'S CAMPAIGN!

The RNC has millions of dollars that people donated to the Committee when they could not give McCain more money.  Let the RNC use that money for ads, etc. instead of for hiring YPM who got voters to sign petitions for harder sentences against child molesters and then used the signatures to change their voter registration from Democrat or Independent to Republican illegally.

Umm - wouldn't Obama be after all the states, same as McCain? After all,it is an election!

You must be uneducated, hateful, racist person.  You never had any choice whether to be white, brown, black etc, none of us had that option.  I don't know why people think they are better off because they are white.  ALL OF US ARE EQUAL IN THE CREATORS EYE.  I WISH IF IT IS A BETTER USA AS THE WORLD HAD KNOWN IT BEFORE THESE REGIME.  GET EDUCATED, AND BE ENLIGHTENED.  GENERAL COLLIN POWELL IS THE MOST RESPECTED PERSON IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD, YOU MUST HAVE GROWN WITH NO VALUE AND PRINCIPLE THAT WAS INSTILLED IN YOU GROWING UP.  I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR MOST OF YOU REPUBLICANS, WHO USE GOD'S NAME IN VAIN BUT ACT LIKE THE DEVIL HIMSELF, HATEFUL AND LIERS. 

 Hey Jack B.  What happen to Drill Baby Drill? Oh, I remember its Jobs Baby Jobs so you may drill, if you get my drift.

talk about socialism The state of Alaska give money back to its citizens from the sale of a natural resource that belongs to all of us. Isn't that socialism?

Obama will win Arzonia.

Hey Jack Bumb you sound like your struggling and trying not to go racist on us. No matter what Obama does or doesn't do we will be light years ahead of the last 8 years and even further than that moron and his bimbo. Even someone who ISN'T color blind can see and must admit that. If thing just don't work out for you, ya know like a BLACK president, why don't you move to Alaska and have bimbo call the shots. I don't believe there are mank blacks in Alaska soooo you can feel superior. How do you feel about Eskimos?  O8/12

my guess is, you delusioned 4 and 8 years ago too!

Why do you not stick your Muslim comment where the sun does not shine your racist! Powell was right. There are a lot of Muslims who died defending our country and are better people then Dr. M. A. Littlejohn will ever be! Dr. M. A. Littlejohn people like YOU are the reason the country is in shambles.

What this guy says is true . We were embarrased by Iran. The economy was in a way bigger mess than right now.

See what happens when you have an intelligent post against the messiah, you get  excoriated like "Joe the plumber" by leftist thugs who mock anyone who attempts to say the emperor has no clothes. I fear for this country, at least Carter was an honest boob...

I blame it all on Bush. Let's face it he's an idiot. After the Bush rip off the garbage man could have run and secured a win.

Erik

I stopped listening to your spin after you said "messiah". Another Repub hater with nothing to say.

If it talks like a Bush, walks like a Bush, then it is a Mccain

How intelligent Dal, is that the lefty talking point of the day? Did you get that from Mr. "jobs is a three letter word" Biden? Also, I didnt say anything for you to "listen" too. Product of the liberal dominated public school system are we?  :) And admit it, you did read the rest of my original post, it is OK that you cant help but to see the truth.

I happened to like Carter, as for Iran being a backward Muslim Country, check your history to see what inventions and contributions those backward people have contributed to the world. We sat ourselves up to fail when we think we're dealing with backward people. As for "waterboarding you", there would be no intelligent information to be gleaned for you. Way waste the effort. But if you need it I'm sure Bush/Cheney would be happy to oblige. I won't miss your vote and could care less that you are delusional. I don't give medical advice.

dal- You seem to believe that pointing out that Iran is a Muslim country is a negative remark. Why is that? Do you see Muslims as inferior to other people? Even if Dr. Littlejohn did intend the Muslim distinction to be less than flattering it still does not make him/her a racist. Any one of any race can be a "Muslim" (although I admit confusion when it comes to being Jewish. Is being a Jew a racial or a religious indentity? Anyone?) So if you had called Dr. Littlejohn a religious bigot you would at least have had the chance to be correct. By calling him/her a "racist" you merely prove your own ignorance. I re-state my earlier suggestion that you educate yourself before posting. As it is you look like an uneducated Obamite.

dmac - and you YOURSELF spread disgusting lies and want to point fingers - you are true neo-con modern day republican - slander is your forte - in your own words

"as it is, you look like an uneducated McCainite"

Erik, Erik, Erik,

Sometimes I have to correct Repubs with slanderous statements. Like terrorist, try to say a guy is Muslim for their own purposes, or like you who confuse a Presidential nominee with Messiah or Prophet. My friends use to call me Republican in views although I never claimed a party. I find the Republican hardliners are getting a little "gray" on facts and the old book they went by is being rewritten. We can no longer call them the Republican party of old. Teen pregnancy. The old party would have slammed Palin hard for that. Bailout. The old party would have said this is socialism and not sold out. Gay marriage. The old party would have said no and not been divided. I find the new party is more corrupt and narrow than it has ever been and name calling and conjecture seems to be an everyday staple. So you see Erik you fit right in. And dmac understand that you should educate yourself because you know the spin and you have been spinning. Reading your earlier posts I see you are also a Repub hater.

Or as were many 8 friggin years ago huh

eric b dont youn mean joe the skinhead?

My guess IF you are a Dr. you may be a little nervous about that $250,000 or more TAX?  Too bad leave the country and go where the government will leave you alone. We will not miss you.  I suppose the word socialist has you shaking in your $500.00 shoes. Are you afraid that you won't be able to squeeze every last dollar from our broken health care system. 

Again IF you are a Dr. you certainly can not be stupid enough to favor that lame excuse for a candidate and his trained bimbo.

Obama is going to build a permanent welfare class. They will then owe their livelyhood and allegance to the state, what a nightmare for all of us.

Mccain will buy my house and give my welfare kids a voucher to go to private school. I will laugh at all those suckers going to work to pay my bills.

Signed

Why bother working under Mccain

Dr Littlejohn, your post proves that you should hold any further opinions about the middle east until you read a little more about the history of the area.  Iran is hardly a "backward Muslim country", either in its present state or in the history of its people. 

As for being embarassed - we should have been embarassed years earlier when Ike helped the Shah oust the Prime Minister and he and subsequent US presidents looked the other way when the Shah jailed and tortured dissidents.  We should have been embarassed that we worked with the Shah to foment discord and arm rebels in Iraq, which directly led to the escalation in fighting between the Turks and the Kurds and Saddam's coup.

In order to legitimize Israel, we supported a dictator which led to another dictator in another country and a hardcore Muslim revolution in the first.  We have a lot to be embarassed for.  Carter is not the cause, however.  He's merely the man who was our president when our previous actions caught up with us.

I would like a president who understands all of this, not one who was for Saddam before he was aganst him. Not one who was a member of the Council for World Freedom during Iran-Contra and backed policies and presidents who escalated the tensions between Iran and Iraq.

If you want to give up your Liberty and pledge allegiance to the State.

That is McCain/Palins thing they are FEDERALIST...meaning STATE FIRST not COUNTRY

They want people to pledge allegiance to.. Arizona and Alaska... before American First

They are espousing Secessionist rhetoric you need to reread your History Books

Our liberties have been taken away over the past 8 years as well as our standing in the world.

The last 8 years have not been BAD....George Bush was a wonderful president until the media decided to turn against him because we had another election coming up & they needed to discredit him and get a democrat in office.  He pulled us through the 9/11 attacks with compassion and expertise.  It was a terrible time and I shudder to think what the democrat charlatans would have done.  Sent apologies to the muslim families of the men who attacked us maybe???  Get over your constant whining about the last 8 years..................it's the past 2 years that have been in shambles.  Remember, the Democrat run Congress??? That is what has happened to our economy and the attitude of the United States of America. 

So If Barak Obama is our "Savior" what was he doing 8 years ago? NOTHING!!!! At least the other 3 involved in this race were participating in running our country.

Another point, you all whine about how Bill Clinton beat George Bush Sr, well if Ross Perot had not been running as an independent and taking that portion of the votes, Clinton would NEVER have won...........it wasn't his popularity or ability, it was a third lame horse in the race taking votes away from President Bush. 

Tenntom,

Personally, no, I haven't been affected.  But do you seriously think that our liberites are going to be taken away by Obama?  I'm sorry if you think that what has gone on with the Bush administration is acceptable.

Are you sure you haven't been affected?  Are you sure your phone calls weren't tapped into? 

I wouldn't be able to prove to it to Tenntom. 

Did I say that?  If you are better off today than 8 years ago, good for you.  I am seriously afraid of what would happen if McCain died in office and Palin became president.  You think Obama is inexperienced?  Vote the issues; that is major issue to me as it is with many people.

Don't know what millerz terms as not being bad.  I lost my job along with a few million others.  Trying to find a new one was at the level I was at (Engineer for a major telecommunications firm with 22 years experience) was impossible.  Had to settle for an $8.00 an hour job, part time, so it has been very bad for me and my family.  I am hoping that Obama gets the job market back to where it should be as Bush has done nothing.  And please don't tell me to join the military as I am 60 years old.

Hawkdvr.  Bush has already taken our Liberty and turned us into a State.  So where are you going with this?

The Constitution has been ignored by Bush and I don't mind telling you how. There is an Executive, Legislative, and Judicial Branch of Government(basic civics) that have separate powers. Congress has oversight of the Executive Branch and proposes bills enacts laws, Judicial is supposed to interpret the Constitution. The Executive initiates policy. When you have an Executive Branch that has refused to answer subpoenas from Congress, has ignored the Foreign Intelligence Security Act ( having the Attorney General approve warrants instead of the Court), outed a CIA agent, lied under oath(Libby), Cheney calling himself a part of the Legislature (V.P. is President of Senate not a legislator..read Constitution) to avoid scrutiny(he is actually part of the Executive Branch), use the AG's office to fire and prosecute individuals your party sees as a threat, how muck more do you need to realize that these actions are taking liberties from the Constitution? You may think these are just little points, but when one Branch of Government refuses to abide by the Constitution it is taking liberties from us all.

I just voted...woohoo!!!!!!

Obama/Biden '08

I hope they counted it right West Virginia is switching Dem Vote to republican!

Tenntom - If you don't think that you've been affected, then you are only looking at a narrow view of your pocketbook and not the overall picture.  We've all been affected, whether we are one of the million + people who are incorrectly on the "terror watch list" or have had our phone calls used against us. 

It's ironic that the party who keeps talking about our founding fathers, their intent and their Christianity is the party that redacted parts of the Constitution through laws passed since 9-11, masquerading the redactions as Executive Orders and anti-terrorism bills.  Always remember that many of our founding fathers knew the temptations and justifications that both good and bad men could use to remodel the country to their own liking. 

When asked what type of nation had been created, Ben Franklin replied "A Republic, if you can keep it".  We haven't been good stewards of that republic.  We've allowed party and religious affiliations to do damage to it.  We've allowed fear and bad policy do damage to it.  We've allowed hatred to damage to it.

As for what Obama brings to the table...

"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression."

"Difference of opinion is advantageous in religion. The several sects perform the office of a Censor - over each other."

"Every generation needs a new revolution."

"He who knows best knows how little he knows."

"I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind."

"I cannot live without books."

"I have seen enough of one war never to wish to see another."

"I like the dreams of the future better than the history of the past."

All the above quotes come from Thomas Jefferson.  I think he would have voted for Obama.  He certainly would have admired him.

Dumbass.

Sheryl DePree you are an idiot.  That matters because?  You are talking about Sarah Palin's clothes???  What did the "Savior" spend on his wardrobe?  Did he shop at Target?  I don't think so.  You are ridiculous.  Why do you people stoop so low?  Fine, if it matters then lets get all the candidates wardrobe receipts out there.  I can assure you money bags Obama has a pretty hefty make-over bill for Michelle, but MSNBC isn't putting that out here.  You're an idiot

I know when see a post start off, "So and so is an idiot.", I don't read the rest of the post.

The difference here is that Barack Obama bought his own clothes.  The RNC (PUBLIC FUNDING) bought Sarah Palin's.  Therefore millerz, you bought Palin that ridiculous red leather jacket...maybe she'll send it to you when she heads back to Alaska. 

The Obama campaign has spent close to $500,000.00 for Michelle Obama's wardrobe and over $150,000.00 on their children.

Barak Obama has spent a little less at just over $100, 000.00.

I could just leave these numbers out there and point to some website that I got these numbers from or some right wing publication but the truth is I do not know how much they have spent because they make the CIA look open.

If we are going to have true openess with our politicians I am all for letting everyone know how much is spent on clothing but if one side gets slammed but a place calling themselves a news organization and then admitting to getting a tingle up their leg when hearing the other party's candidate speak I have to save journalism has died and if this artical made you vote for Obama then maybe you need to examine your value system.

Why won't you tell us where you got these numbers from?

Can anyone imagine how much merchandise $75,000 would buy in a toy store no matter how upscale???
This is just another indication of just how McCain would govern. Perks for his supporters and those that agree with his positions and for everyone else, "Let them eat cake!" (we all know how well that worked out for the French aristrocracy, don't we?)
Perhaps the reason that there are no numbers for the Obama campaign is because the DNC didn't participate in this kind of activity? I don't know. But, I agree that it woud be an interesting piece of information to have. In the meantime please everyone, regardless of your party affiliation or choice of presidential candidates, make your voice be heard, VOTE!

He can't tell you where the numbers came from. They don't exist

DS-657773 is a perfect example of an Obama supporter. So quick to attack anyone who does not support the Obama they fail to see the facts that are right in front of their face. Let me help you out DS: JL-371945 clearly states in his post that "...the truth is I do not know how much they have spent...". You, like many others, know you are making a mistake by supporting Obama (or McCain for that matter) so you attack the messenger while totally ignoring the message. Our "leaders" and the media have convinced you to ignore your logical, rational and correct conclusions and instead have scared you into believing only the government can save you. 

As I've said...twisted words, half truths and outright lies!!!

dmac225, what is your point?  Are you saying that doesn't matter how much is spent on clothes?  If so, very true.  There are two viable candidates, but you're saying that voting for either one is the wrong decision? 

dmac...I didn't attack...I asked why the source of those numbers wasn't revealed.  If they exist all well & good...show me please.  If John Lawrence doesn't know where the numbers came from then where did he get them from?   

RNC Emails probably

Hey John Lawrence...have you been able to source that yet...we're waiting....maybe dmac could help you out. 

The reason it may matter is

1. An emotional/interpretive one - There aren't many hockey moms spending 150k at upscale retail stores.  That might be considered more "elitist".

2. A legal one - Several lawyers versed in election law believe it may be illegal to use campaign contributions for "wardrobe".

If you want to see the difference in the candidates and find out who is more like the average American in one way, check out these links...

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2008/08/the-measure-of.html

http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=3904

Now ACORN is stuffing ballot boxes?  Interesting!!  Voter registration fraud in some cases, probably.  People making up names on voter registration cards so they get more, definitely.  Voter fraud, not until Mickey Mouse votes.

You are absolutely correct about voting.  Don't be complacent.  Vote the issues.  Also don't believe the mud slinging and fear mongering.

Hey Marion, you related to Joe McCarthy? Watch out, commies everywhere! And I think you're one of them! Don't be late for your revival meeting.

voter fraud and registration fraud, hmmm.

From Fox news:

"Republican Voter Registration Chief Arrested for Fraud in California
The head of a signature-gathering firm hired by the California Republican Party was arrested over the weekend for allegedly lying about his address to to vote in the state."

Ya just can't trust anyone can you????

Meanwhile Obama's group ACORN is busily stuffing the ballot boxes with fraudulent voter registration AND outright voter FRAUD.

BTW... have a source for that voter fraud allegation?

Sticking voter registrations in the ballot box? .. LMAOO

Why would you do that? roflmaooo

Funniest post of the day

Yet even after the Justice Department declared the war against voter fraud a "high priority," only 24 people were convicted of illegal voting in federal elections between 2002 and 2005 -- and nobody was even charged by Justice with impersonating another voter.

And despite the anti-immigrant frenzy fueling photo-ID laws, only 14 noncitizens were convicted of illegally voting in federal elections from 2002 through 2005 -- mostly because of their ignorance of election law.

This out of millions of people..

I think it is safe to say that actual voter fraud is very, very rare.

Why vis no one talking about the FACT that McCain made a speech at an ACORN event meanwhile in his speech talking about what a wonderful job they are doing.

Because Christie it doesn't matter.  ACORN hasn't been indicted on anything.  They got ripped off by people working for them and the Reps are spinning it to suit them.  ACORN hired some lazy ass people too lazy to go out and actually register people.  So they sat their asses down in some air conditioned room and went through a phone book to get names.  Because they get paid by the amount of people they register.  So really ACORN was being ripped off.

Ask any one of these people that @!$%# about ACORN to prove ACORN has been indicted.  They can't.  It's a non-story.  That they are being investigated is also a non-story.  The Reps have tried unsuccessfully for years to try to "catch" them in anything.  It's hilarious.

Marion, you should just flee the country now.  Save yourself and all those who will be whiped off the face of the USA when Obama takes office.  (Please have your meds checked).

Marion,

You should just pack up and leave now before the crazies come after you.  Seriously?! 

I am an independent and when I read both parties and the mud slinging going on, I have to wonder how anyone can relate to either side.  Strictly going off of what I have learned of both parties and what they want to bring to the White House, I have to say I am slightly leaning in the way of Obama/Biden.

Marion, last time I checked, it isn't voter fraud unless Mickey Mouse himself shows up at the poll and tries to vote. If not, who cares whether someone wrote down Mickey Mouse's name on the registration. He won't be able to vote.

By law, ACORN is required to turn in every single registration form that has been filled out...even if they know that some of them are likely to be fraudulent. If anyone is guilty of voter registration fraud, it's the individuals that ACORN employed, simply because they were paid by how many registrations were filled out. The individuals were perpetuating a fraud on ACORN, not ACORN perpetuating a fraud on the state.

ACORN knew those forms were not real, but by law they were still required to turn them in. In fact, they even helped the registrations clerks with their jobs because they themselves flagged those registration forms as potential frauds.

And like I said, unless someone shows up and tries to vote as Mickey Mouse, there is no harm to the electorate or to democracy.

Well Stella I have lived just outside of Phoenix for 12 years and I can assure you that he who wins Phoenix and Maricopa county wins Arizona. 2/3rds of Arizonas residents live in Maricopa county. Tuscon is not in Maricopa county. Consider this: Sheriff Joe Arpio, as radical and unhinged as he is, will probably be re-elected as Sheriff of Maricopa county.

Stella I live in phoenix and there is alot of support for Obama here too, I being one of them. McCain has done NOTHING for this state at all, including education where we rank 50/50. There are more kids homeschooled here then in any other state.

Then we should definitely take into consideration Sarah Palin's support for the Alaskan Independence Party.  She spoke from the Governors office to offer her support and golly gee good wishes and God's blessings dontcha know.

Go ahead!

Then we can bring in 20 years at the racist church with Rev. Wright.

The 10 years with a domestic terrorist, including ariting a blurb for Ayers' book.

We can bring in ACORN and voter registration fraud which is where voter fraud begins.

Go ahead and bring up those singular meetings she spoke to or went to.

We can bring up years of connections to people who hate because of race and people who state they are partially anarchist openly.

Have Obama deny these facts!

Now that is a racist statment as if it came from the KKK or the black panthers.

Both groups are equally racist and voting for anyone because of race is beyond stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He went to church...

He served on a committee with many Republicans.  All appointed by a Republican.

He did not use the Governors office to support a group that has no use for Americans...as stated on their website.

Regarding ACORN...that is so ridiculous. We all know it and thats all that needs to be said.

Have you heard what is happening to voters today in VA...they vote for the Democratic ticket and the machines register their vote for Republicans.

As regards Obama's associations with Ayers it has been established that his dealings with him were for charitable causes and for education.  McCain can't make the same claim in his association with Keating, unless you think cheating little old ladies out of their life savings is some sort of charity.

Regarding his association with his pastor, most of us white people do not understand what goes on inside a black church.  Never have and never will.   Look back at Martin Luther King.  He was villified as a communist by white America when he was alive.  But now that he is six foot under, we regard him as a great man.  I do not worry about Mr. Wright.  He is entitled to his opinion.  That is what makes America great.  We are all allowed to voice our opinion, right or wrong.  If you don't believe it, keep reading these blogs.

Actually des Obama's dealings with Ayers goes much deeper than that. Obama and Ayres met through Rezko (born in Syria by the way) shortly after Obama returned from his trip around the world he took with his roommates (both Pakistani citizens here on Visas) after failing out of Occidental College in California due to excessive drug use. Obama knew Ayers for years before they both moved from New York, where they lived three blocks from each other, to Chicago. Did you know they moved to Chicago within weeks of each other? Have you ever read any of Ayers books? He uses a lot of nautical terminology when he writes. Must be from his time as a merchant marine. Have you read either of Obama's books? He also uses a lot of nautical terms and imagery when he writes. I wonder where he picked that up from? Obama has never spent any time sailing or anything soooooo....? 

Ooooooh Syrians and Pakistanis.....scary!  You better place a call to retired General John Abizaid, CENTCOM commander until 2007.  He may know what to do about someone who has friends and business associates from muslim countries, since he's Lebanese-American, raised mainly by his arab father and speaks Arabic.  He also studied at Harvard and the University of Jordan, not unlike a boy who studied in Indonesia and later went to Harvard.  Maybe he'll know what to do about this dangerous threat named Obama.

Tenntom: you say some weird things at times but that last post I just had to laugh at.

(Is your mom home ?)

OBAMA/BIDEN '08

Wow!

A democrat with a sense of humor.

I thought you lost that a while back and decieded that hate worked for you.

It's so obvious that she is setting her sights on 2012...she's already started stabbing John McCain in the back...after all that is her MO. What a gal!

Hillary is going to run all over her in 2012 Palin is in for a fight for the white house. But I don't believe she will make it that far.

Do you think that would be enough time for Palin to learn what is really written in the Constitution. Cheney wouldn't be a good choice, he's never studied it. If she's going to be "briefed" she should find a better tutor. On the other hand Alaska could leave the Union, then she could be President of a foreign country, that would be waaayy more important than presiding over the other 49. Besides as wealthy as Russia has become, they may buy Alaska back. Sorry to demean the citizens of Alaska, but if Palin is the best they have to offer, they really need to raise their standards for Governor.

NO WAY, NO HOW NOT PALIN WITH NO INTELLIGENCE

LMAO. Yeah, most extreme far-rightwingers would prefer to vote for Palin than McCain, but the majority of the country are not rightwingers. Palin may electrify the base, but she alienates moderates. And the election is won in the center.

We will need the respect if Biden is correct when he stated that an Obama presidency would be tested in the first 6 months by an international crisis because he is preceived by the world as weak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Twisted words, half truths and outright lies. Biden said much more than that and we all know it.   

DIDN'T BIDEN SAY OBAMA LACKS EXPERIENCE TO BE PRESIDENT ?

During the Democratic run for the party nomination and during the Republican run for the party nomination opposing candidates said things to better their own cause at the expense of their opponent. That's politics. Get over it.

This is what Sen. Biden said. Please be sure to read the entire text:

"We’re going to face a major international challenge,” Biden said. “They’re going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They’re going to want to test him. And they’re going to find out this guy’s got steel in his spine.” Biden said. "

source: Newsmax.com, Monday, October 20, 2008 4:10 PM By: Rick Pedraza

Read the rest of Bidin's remarks not just the part that suits your evil plot. He said that Obama has a spine of steel.

Obama/ Bidin '08/ '12

Gotta love the scorekeeper!  

John Lawrence, we're in crisis now, McCain says he knows how to fix it; will it take him another 26 years? He couldn't "fix it" for Keating, what's he going to do in a real crisis.

Tenntom,

Are you saying Obama is into blackmailing his fellow democrats with his support as long as they support his take from some to give to another mentality?

Sounds like you are accusing your man of a federal crime.

Could the cool aid as it is called on MSNBC have soured?

Tenntom, like all the Republicans riding Bush's coattails from the last presedential election.

Joh McCain is a hero there is not doubt.  But unfortunately the hero has been duped by a not too bright (the VP runs the Senate)...but very slick wolf killer. 

michelle, McCain does not support our heros.  He talks well of the fighting soldiers, but votes no on every Vet bill that comes up.  I don't call that supporting our heros.

honestly I do not think John McCain even supports John McCain. opinion

George Bush and John McCain, 2003 to present.  Bomed Iraq killing thousand of innocent people.  For no reason, other than made up.  What's the difference?

Bill Ayers has no part in Obama campaign, will have no part in his administration.  Why is this relevant? 

Never convicted of any of those things at all so they are just allegations.

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain has enjoyed strong support from a lobbyist group that backs the Kosovo Liberation Army despite allegations the KLA is a Muslim terrorist group with ties to criminal drug networks and al-Qaida.

“He did everything that we asked of him, including arming the KLA”, said Albanian lobbyist Joe DioGuardi. The Albanians collected one million dollars for the presidential campaign of this senator.

Americans of Albanian heritage collected a million dollars in one evening for the presidential campaign of Republican Senator John McCain, said the Albanian American Civic League yesterday, the lobby group headed by former Congressman Joe DioGuardi. A reception for McCain was held January 22 at the Saint Regis Hotel in Manhatten, and the senator, who is now leading in the runoff for the Republican party candidacy in the November elections, cut his campaign in Florida by one day to attend this gathering.

“Even in 1998 when we had problems with Milosevic, McCain did everything that we asked of him to the benefit of the Albanian people, including arming the KLA”, announced DioGuardi. “We are American Albanians and we need a leader who will strengthen this country… We must support John McCain because he did everything we asked of him for Kosovo, from supporting the Kosovo Liberation Army to supporting the independence of Kosovo. Two years ago he spoke in Brussels and said that independence is the only solution”, concluded this former congressman who has been fighting for the independence of Kosovo and Metohija for more than twenty years.

McCain: You could say, Look, is this guy, Laden, really the bad guy that's depicted?

McCain's terrorism problem dates back to the early 1990s, when he sided with right-wing domestic terrorists and voted against tough new legislation cracking down on a wave of anti-choice domestic terrorism targeting women who visited abortion clinics, their doctors, and clinic staff.

In both 1993 and 1994, McCain voted against the anti-terrorism measure. On each occasion, McCain was one of thirty radical anti-choice Senators to oppose the bill Fortunately, despite McCain's opposition, it passed the Senate by a 69-30 margin.

At the time, right-wing anti-choice extremists were terrorizing women, doctors, and clinic staff across the United States with thousands of acts of physical violence and threats of violence each year.

Those groups had links to the militia movement.

At the time, right-wing anti-choice extremists were terrorizing women, doctors, and clinic staff across the United States with thousands of acts of physical violence and threats of violence each year. The new legislation was necessary because in early 1993, the Supreme Court had ruled that even though the terrorism crossed state lines, the federal government could not protect clinics without a specific grant of statutory authority.

After Dr. David Gunn was murdered by anti-choice terrorist outside the Pensacola Women's Medical Services clinic, Congress finally passed the much-needed legislation giving authorities the tool they needed to protect women, doctors, and clinic staff from the ongoing threat of terrorism.

That is a very good post, with one minor exception, "What is Sen. McCain's approach?"

He wants to buy up mortgages (sounds at least as socialist as any of his opponent's ideas). With what money? Because he wants to cut taxes, too.

The man has not offered a consistent and understandable approach. Even if you don't agree with his approach, Sen. Obama has been consistent and has apparently offered an approach that you can understand enough of in order to disagree with it. 

In this case, as an independent, I would suggest that McCain is only important as a block against total democratic ownership of the government.  Secondly, he has mentioned reducing the size of government.  But, he was vague.  Obviously, if deficit spending destroys the real value of a dollar, the way to increase the value is to cut cost and remove the deficit.   Iam not a Mccain fan. I am just looking for the door that will hurt least to go through. 

There will be alternatives to the two-party system in the future, We just have to make certain we don't have major screw-ups until then.

LarryK...you have a good point.  It does make me a little nervous to have one party controlling both congress and the white house.  However, I refuse to vote for a 72 year old man who chose a bubble head as a running mate.  No way  That trumps all other arguments 

I guess history repeated it self after 6 years under republican congress and Bush well we are living the rest of the story. Housing bubble followed by burst . Deregulation. While I am on this topic if anybody thinks these leaks developed in the past two years you are wrong. The leaks were already evident , they were caused by the 6year historic event and finally the ship sunk. my conjecture based on facts and the facts supplied by larryK convince me I am right.

Well, tbrown what is the alternative? We have is a two-party stranglehold on our governmenr. teresa asked above if the GOP is so cool why haven't they fixed social security?"  Easy, the problem was way too big for all of them.  Medicare and social security have unfunded laibilities that are huge.  Both parties have danced around the issues.  Reagan beat inflation and communism and clinton had good second term, He got his surplus after the 1997 tax cut. And, he relieved US corporation by NAFTA.  We had lost our domestic market and couldn't compete overseas.  These guys have never had a long-term startegic plan that governs solutions.  They were controlled by events.  Obama will get controlled by events also.
If is become a contest between a socially right wing VP and a bad econmic policy during these times, I cannot fathom why you worry about the bubblehead,  McCain is healthy and will survice according to any modern longevity table.  Palin cannot influence the courts to change a thing. And, we won't have a contstitutional amendment passed by the states.  So why the hell are we arguing about Palin in the first place?
The most relevent thing in our lives is the economy - right now.  The truth is that we cannot have tax increases or protectionism during this contraction. What Palin may be in four years means nothing. What Obama may do in one year means everything.
The only beneficial possibility is that the democratic congress saw what happened to them when Clinton rose taxes in 1993.  They must know the Obama tax plan includes one of the biggest tax increases to the middle class in 50 years - if you calculate the 1999 Clinton tax tables, a new capital gains tax and payroll tax increases.
Personally, sir, I'll take the bubblehead.

The same failed policies of the Bush Admin. You are talking through your shoe. How does it taste. If you want to drink the Kool aid go ahead.

Teresa - the problem never was about deregulation.  That is a partisan end-run.  regulation is a primary cause of lost jobs . It is always written after the fact and requires huge bureacratic cost.  The real problem by both parties was a lack of oversight.  When you deregulate, you reduce consumer cost.  But, if it is not replaced by good oversight, there is a vacuum.  if you have/had kids, there is an example.  When you leave the kids alone with a lot of rules that may or may not fit the events of the evening, that is regulation.  When you hire a babysitter, that is oversight.
The other partisan end run is that this happened during Bush's term and by Bush's actions.  Bush certainly allowed his regulators to go to sleep.  But, this mess could not have grown if some democrats did not spearheaded a law that allowed Freddie and Fannie to exceed its cap and backstop all the banks by taking trillions of bad mortgages off their hands.  And, the law sponsored by Frank that allow zero down payments also allowed speculators into the fray.  These were the big numbers.  There were many mistakes by both parties and most states over 22 years that allowed this.  Nothing much can get this kind of momentum in 6 years.  Terasa, you are bright.  But, the complexity of this thing defies the simplistic politican and their causation . They are hiding from the fact that this thing got out of hand because they all fell asleep for two decades.
The truth is that the two-party system does not work.

And what if something happens to McCain? Socialist Palin will be President.

Look at her record in Alaska. Tax the rich and cut a check to every Alaskan citizen.

We, the people vote for the person who has a Harvard Law degree with Magna Cum Laude, who was married to the same woman for 20 years, who is a great orator like Churchill, who understands the middle income, who struggles like 95% of us out there, who believes in education, who is young and energetic, who represents all of us white or black or others, who is a very well-rounded person who has been given to us from the Almighty for such as a time as this.  Joe Biden is also highly educated and experienced, they compliment each other.  No professor could recall Palin from the 4 colleges she had attended and passed with mediocre grades, with a "D" economics.  What is wrong with sharing if I am rich, "from much is given, much is expected" the Bible says it.  OBAMA'S PLAN IS A TAX CUT FOR THE WORKING FAMILY, AND I AGREE A PERSON WHO MAKES A MILLION AND A PERSON WHO MAKES 30,000 SHOULDN'T BE TAXED THE SAME, THAT IS NOT FAIR.  DON'T YOU SEE WHY WE ARE IN SHAMBLES NOW?  It is because of the CEO's salary which is ridiculous, no one deserves that kind of money.

WHAT?

Maria4.  From your above statements you seem to be pretty much of a racist and a fool.  I dearly hope you never have a sick grandparent but you deserve it with an attitude like yours.

This repub makes no sence

WTF?  Is this woman the speech writer for Bachman?

OMG!  Are you kidding me?  You are one sick individual.  maria4usa, you should be ashamed of yourself.  You are the reason McCain will not get elected.  The people of this country are far more enlightened than you are and crap like the venom that comes from you just make people flock to Obama. 

Maria 4?-You are the venomous one spewing division and bigotry. Real icky.

Your post is reprehensible and just plain stupid.

Let the fools keep it up so people can see the true value of voting Republican.

I have a racist uncle that sounds like you. I remember being picked up from High School by him and when a black kid walked in front of his car he chanted "run @!$%# run" It was and continues to be the worst thing I have ever heard come out of someones mouth. But you have managed to make my uncle look like a choir boy by comparison.

You think Obama has not shown  who he is miss marie well you sure has shown who you are THE DEVIL, A DEMON, A BIGOT just like all other mcgrandaddy supporters

tennom: I asked you nicely to behave now why can't you do that for me? You know dam well there not going to paint the white house black and you know darn well that 50 and snoop won't be rolling no bongs in Lincoln;s old bedroom. now I told you that snoop was going to have a bunch of freaks in there dropping it like it;s hot. I know you herd that song you are a snoop fan arent you? I was laughing so hard I almost fell out my seat. Stop being mean.

Well said Mary L.  But she would not make it in a community that has anything other than whites.  Let along black.

I really wish both sides would leave race out of this.  MLK talked of the day his children might be measured by the quality of their character and not the color of their skin.  I think if he were alive now he'd add presidential candidates to that statement.

Maria4? would probably not make it anywhere that humans reside unless she changes her tone.