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Militants in Pakistan kill 2 alleged US spies

Sun Nov 2, 2008 4:40 AM EST
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Munir Ahmad, Associated Press Writer
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<p>Pakistani tribesmen examine the wreckage of a car was hit by a suspected U.S. missile in Mir Ali village near Miran Shah, the main town of Pakistan's North Waziristan tribal region along Afghanistan border, Saturday, Nov. 1, 2008. Suspected U.S. missiles slammed into two villages close to the Afghan border, killing at least 27 people including an Arab al-Qaida operative and other foreign militants, intelligence officials said.  (AP Photo/Hasbunallah Khan)</p>

Pakistani tribesmen examine the wreckage of a car was hit by a suspected U.S. missile in Mir Ali village near Miran Shah, the main town of Pakistan's North Waziristan tribal region along Afghanistan border, Saturday, Nov. 1, 2008. Suspected U.S. missiles slammed into two villages close to the Afghan border, killing at least 27 people including an Arab al-Qaida operative and other foreign militants, intelligence officials said. (AP Photo/Hasbunallah Khan)

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ISLAMABAD — Militants killed two people they claimed were spies for the United States and dumped their bodies with a warning in a Pakistani border region at the center of a campaign of suspected American missile strikes, an official said Saturday.

Fighting reported elsewhere in Pakistan's volatile northwest left 29 militants and three Pakistani soldiers dead.

Police found the bullet-ridden bodies of the two men on Saturday in the North Waziristan tribal region after a tip from residents, police official Gul Marjan said.

"See the fate of this man. He was an American spy," was written on notes pinned to each of the bodies found in the village of Ghulam Khan, Marjan said. The notes said the men were from the neighboring Afghan province of Khost.

The warning was an indication that Taliban and al-Qaida militants are on the lookout for spies in Pakistan's wild border belt as the frequency of suspected American missile strikes on their hide-outs increases.

At least 18 strikes from what are believed to be unmanned U.S. military and CIA aircraft have hit Pakistan's tribal regions since August, more than three times as many as in 2007. The rugged, mountainous region — where the Pakistani government has never had much control — is considered a likely hiding place for Osama bin Laden and his No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri.

Many of the cross-border attacks have targeted North Waziristan, a base for Afghan and foreign militants involved in the growing insurgency against the U.S.-backed government in Afghanistan.

Militants have executed scores of Afghans and Pakistanis in the region in recent years for alleged spying. It is unclear whether the victims, many of whom have been beheaded, were marking or informing on targets for U.S. missile strikes.

The missile strikes have drawn condemnation from Pakistan's government, which argues that they undermine the country's sovereignty and its own efforts to combat Islamic radicalism.

"The U.S. administration's reluctance to consider the repercussions of such operations is damaging the whole purpose of global efforts to combat terrorism," Pakistani Information Minister Sherry Rehman said after an attack in North Waziristan on Friday killed some 13 people.

However, the Pakistani government has also renewed its commitment to the seven-year-old war on terror, even as it hopes that President-elect Barack Obama will be more receptive to its arguments.

Rehman said in a statement late Friday that Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari was urging Washington to halt the attacks. It was unclear if Zardari raised the matter in an overnight telephone call with Obama.

The three Pakistani troops died when militants fired on them in the Swat valley, a military statement said. Troops returned fire, killing 10 insurgents. Five more insurgents were killed in clashes elsewhere in the restive valley.

In the nearby Bajur region, Pakistani warplanes bombed suspected militant bases in four different areas, killing an estimated 14 rebels, said Jamil Khan, a government official in the area.

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Associated Press Writers Bashirullah Khan in Miran Shah and Habib Khan in Khar contributed to this report.

© 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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In answer to the question posted by J.Welch, "What has the Muslim world contributed to the betterment of mankind in the last eight hundred years or so? I can't think of anything in medicine, law, the arts, science, political stability, and economics. Nothing. Can you?"

I cannot but fail to notice the ignorance that the west has in terms of Muslim contribution to various academic disciplines. My answer will only make sense to you that is if you read it with an unbiased mind, without a hint of racial or self perceived cultural superiority complex. Feel free to research the question at hand further unless off course you are happy with your indifference to academic achievements attained by eastern school of thought.

Another point I would like to maker here just because you are unaware of Muslim academic achievement or simply have no desire to acknowledge it then that does not automatically mean that it never happened.

I will just give a brief synopsis of Muslim contribution to the world of science and arts. It's all verifiable so before you decide to critique it become more knowledgeable in the history of Muslim civilization other wise simply admit you hate for the sake of hating. This way the whole point of having an intellectual debate about this vast subject can than be left where it is that is in the realm of history as describe by western scholars who out of racism and cultural bias have willfully ignored the golden chapters of Muslim contribution to the world.

During the Islamic Golden Age, Muslim scholars made significant advances in science, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, engineering, and many other fields. During this time, early Islamic philosophy developed and was often pivotal in scientific debates — key figures were usually scientists and philosophers.

In recent times Pakistani Muslim Theoretical Physicist won a Nobel prize in Electro Weak theory.

Here is a brief list of Muslim scientists as you scroll down half the page:

Jabir Ibn Haiyan  (Geber)

Chemistry (Father of Chemistry)

Died 803 C.E.

Al-Asmai

Zoology, Botany, Animal Husbandry.

740 - 828

Al-Khwarizmi (Algorizm)

Mathematics, Astronomy, Geography. (Algorithm, Algebra, calculus)

770 - 840

'Amr ibn Bahr Al-Jahiz

Zoology, Arabic Grammar, Rhetoric, Lexicography

776 - 868

Ibn Ishaq Al-Kindi (Alkindus)

Philosophy, Physics, Optics, Medicine, Mathematics, Metallurgy.

800 - 873

Thabit Ibn Qurrah (Thebit)

Astronomy, Mechanics, Geometry, Anatomy.

836 - 901

'Abbas Ibn Firnas

Mechanics of Flight, Planetarium, Artificial Crystals.

Died 888

Ali Ibn Rabban Al-Tabari

Medicine, Mathematics, Caligraphy, Literature.

838 - 870

Al-Battani (Albategnius)

Astronomy, mathematics, Trigonometry.

858 - 929

Al-Farghani (Al-Fraganus)

Astronomy, Civil Engineering.

C. 860

Al-Razi (Rhazes)

Medicine, Ophthalmology, Smallpox, Chemistry, Astronomy.

864 - 930

Al-Farabi (Al-Pharabius)

Sociology, Logic, Philosophy, Political Science, Music.

870 - 950

Abul Hasan Ali Al-Masu'di

Geography, History.

Died 957

Al-Sufi (Azophi)

Astronomy

903 - 986

Abu Al-Qasim Al-Zahravi (Albucasis)

Surgery, Medicine. (Father of Modern Surgery)

936 - 1013

Muhammad Al-Buzjani

Mathematics, Astronomy, Geometry, Trigonometry.

940 - 997

Ibn Al-Haitham (Alhazen)

Physics, Optics, Mathematics.

965 - 1040

Al-Mawardi (Alboacen)

Political Science, Sociology, Jurisprudence, Ethics.

972 - 1058

Abu Raihan Al-Biruni

Astronomy, Mathematics. (Determined Earth's Circumference)

973-1048

Ibn Sina (Avicenna)

Medicine, Philosophy, Mathematics, Astronomy.

981 - 1037

Al-Zarqali (Arzachel)

Astronomy (Invented Astrolabe).

1028 - 1087

Omar Al-Khayyam

Mathematics, Poetry.

1044 - 1123

Al-Ghazali (Algazel)

Sociology, Theology, Philosophy.

1058 - 1111

Fall of Muslim Toledo (1085), Corsica and Malta (1090), Provence (1050), Sicily (1091) and Jerusalem (1099). Several Crusades. First wave of devastation of Muslim resources, lives, properties, institutions, and infrastructure over a period of one hundred years. Refer to

Abu Bakr Muhammad Ibn Yahya (Ibn Bajjah)

Philosophy, Medicine, Mathematics, Astronomy, Poetry, Music.

1106 - 1138

Ibn Zuhr (Avenzoar)

Surgery, Medicine.

1091 - 1161

Al-Idrisi (Dreses)

Geography (World Map, First Globe).

1099 - 1166

Ibn Tufayl, Abdubacer

Philosophy, Medicine, Poetry.

1110 - 1185

Ibn Rushd (Averroes)

Philosophy, Law, Medicine, Astronomy, Theology.

1128 - 1198

Al-Bitruji (Alpetragius)

Astronomy

Died 1204

Second wave of devastation of Muslim resources, lives, properties, institutions, and infrastructure over a period of one hundred and twelve years. Crusader invasions (1217-1291) and Mongol invasions (1219-1329). Crusaders active throughout the Mediterranean from Jerusalem and west to Muslim Spain. Fall of Muslim Cordoba (1236), Valencia (1238) and Seville (1248). Mongols devastation from the eastern most Muslim frontier, Central and Western Asia, India, Persia to Arab heartland. Fall of Baghdad (1258) and the end of Abbasid Caliphate. Two million Muslims massacred in Baghdad. Major scientific institutions, laboratories, and infrastructure destroyed in leading Muslim centers of civilization. Refer to "A Chronology of Muslim History Parts ."

Ibn Al-Baitar

Pharmacy, Botany

Died 1248

Nasir Al-Din Al-Tusi

Astronomy, Non-Euclidean Geometry.

1201 - 1274

Jalal Al-Din Rumi

Sociology

1207 - 1273

Ibn Al-Nafis Damishqui

Anatomy

1213 - 1288

Al-Fida (Abdulfeda)

Astronomy, Geography, Histrory.

1273 - 1331

Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (Ibn Battuta)

World Traveler. 75,000 mile voyage from Morocco to China and back.

1304 - 1369

Ibn Khaldun

Sociology, Philosophy of History, Political Science.

1332 - 1395

Ulugh Beg

Astronomy

1393 - 1449

Third wave of devastation of Muslim resources, lives, properties, institutions, and infrastructure. End of Muslim rule in Spain (1492). More than one million volumes of Muslim works on science, arts, philosophy and culture was burnt in the public square of Vivarrambla in Granada. Colonization began in Africa, Asia, and the Americas. Refer to "A Chronology of Muslim History Parts (e.g., 1455, 1494, 1500, 1510, 1524, and 1538)"

 
 
 

Two hundred years before a comparable development elsewhere, Turkish scientist Hazarfen Ahmet Celebi took off from Galata tower and flew over the Bosphorus. Logari Hasan Celebi, another member of the Celebi family, sent the first manned rocket, using 150 okka (about 300 pounds) of gunpowder as the firing fuel.

 
 
 

Tipu, Sultan of Mysore [1783-1799] in the south of India, was the innovator of the world's first war rocket. Two of his rockets, captured by the British at Srirangapatana, are displayed in the Woolwich Museum Artillery in London. The rocket motor casing was made of steel with multiple nozzles. The rocket, 50mm in diameter and 250mm long, had a range performance of 900 meters to 1.5 km.

 

 

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