Your Career: Working in new administration 

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If Barack Obama inspired you so much that after voting for him you now want to work for him, there are thousands of jobs to be had in the new administration.

There are coveted presidential appointments and a huge array of staff positions. But you have to start the ball rolling right now, especially if you weren’t an integral part of the presidential campaign.

You can head over to the newly minted Web site for the Obama transition team and fill out an application for a job right on the site. But like traditional job sites, this strategy probably won’t get you very far. Getting a job with the new administration is pretty much like getting any job: It’s all about connections.

Samuel Mok landed a job as comptroller for the Treasury Department under President Reagan, and he also went on to work for both Presidents George Bush and George W. Bush.

He had worked in corporate America and then became a foreign service officer prior to applying for the comptroller’s job after spotting it in a newspaper ad in the late 1980s.

“It’s a highly competitive process,” Mok says. “For every position, there are countless numbers of people wanting the job. The more allies you can bring to table, the better chance you have.”

Work those connections
Those allies come from connections you may have established working or volunteering for the Obama campaign, or the ones you make now using some detective work and your existing network of contacts.

Strategies to land a job with the administration are varied depending on where you are in your career trajectory.

If you’re just out of college, some experts suggest heading to Washington and volunteering for any position you can get.

“My advice to 20-somethings is to move to Washington, D.C., and work for either the presidential transition or the inauguration,” says Michael Gordon, who worked on President Clinton’s transition team and now runs Group Gordon, a public relations firm. “You generally have to start off as a volunteer, but if you’re persistent and patient, those volunteer jobs turn into paying jobs and then administration jobs.”

For midlevel career types, the key is working your contacts, connecting with key local presidential campaign organizers, and clearly linking your experience to your desired position or department.

Find the job you want, says Mok, “and then figure out who you know and work the channels and openly lobby for that job.”

Last week, the Obama camp released information about its transition team, including names of key staff members.

Knowing this information gives you an inside view of who will be running the show. Now you can figure out if you have any connections with these individuals by using sites such as LinkedIn or Facebook. You can try to contact them directly or contact one of their friends, or friends of friends.

Another key is figuring out what Obama will be concentrating on when he takes over the White House, says Kathryn Troutman, president of The Resume Place Inc. and author of the “Federal Resume Guidebook.”

“Typically, presidents write a whole plan on what they plan to do, their big ideas, and that’s included in the president’s agenda that’s published on the White House Web site,” she says. (Take a look at President Bush’s agenda to get a feel for how this works.)

Troutman estimates that an Obama agenda will show up on the Web site within the first 90 days.

So where do you find what jobs are available?

The jobs may pop up on basic job listing sites, but there are specific portals with the bulk of these federal positions.

One of the best sources, Troutman says, is USAJOBS. “These are not presidential appointee positions, they are federal civil service positions, but all of the people who hold competitive service positions perform services in support of the president’s agenda,” she says.

Troutman expects there will be numerous financial jobs within the government given the recent call for more regulations of the financial sector. So that means federal agencies will be hiring for various positions, including inspectors, auditors, accountants or compliance officers.

Health care jobs will also be in abundance, she predicts, in everything from Medicare to Veterans Affairs.

Another source for federal jobs, according to Matt Eventoff, communications strategist with PPS Associates/Princeton Public Speaking in New Jersey, is something called the “Plum Book” released at the change of each administration. Although this has not been updated for the new president, you can see past ones here.

The Plum Book includes job descriptions and even pay scales for different positions.

Since the party running the White House has changed, Eventoff expects that there will be lots of turnover in a host of government jobs.

Revamp that resume
Don’t expect Obama to make the job selections himself, Eventoff adds, aside from the highest-level posts.

The ones making the decisions for the thousands of other positions will be the president’s transition team. There will also be advisory committees named for particular federal agencies and departments, Eventoff says. If you can find someone who knows someone in these groups, you’ll have an advantage over the thousands of other applicants that will surely be vying for the jobs. If you have contacts who know any of the early Obama appointees, now is a good time to send them your resume.

Speaking of resumes, it’s time to revamp yours if you’ve only worked in the private sector.

“The average federal resume is three to four pages, while a private sector resume is two or less,” says resume expert Troutman. “You have to put in more details in a federal resume to demonstrate you have specific qualifications for the job.”

Resumes for federal jobs, she says, have to clearly spell out specialized experience at a salary level that was equal to what the federal job will be paying.

Once your resume is sent and your contacts are milked, patience will indeed be a virtue as you try and secure a job with the new president, says Gordon.

During the Clinton years, he says, about 3,000 administrative appointments had to be filled. The process took months to complete.

“If you have any relevant policy experience, or political experience, or a particular skill set the administration can draw on, that will give you a leg up,” Gordon says.

The first thing you have to ask yourself is if you’re committed to the new commander in chief’s legacy, says Mok, because government work consists of long hours for not great pay.

“There are two reasons worth serving,” he continues. “You want to understand how the American government works, and you want to help Obama be successful.”

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{"commentId":3996069,"authorDomain":"comidus07"}

Well thank you "Eve" for all that wonderful advice. Yes. I do know how our government works and I'll be keeping a sharp eye on Obama and USA.gov for those upcoming appointments. Your insight into how the new administration will create these new jobs is truly inspiring. Again. Thank you..

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Reply#1 - Sun Nov 9, 2008 10:07 PM EST
{"commentId":4042161,"authorDomain":"str1249"}

Need to have connections? What happened to "Change"?  I thought he was going to veer away from the lobbyists and CAPs and all that!  He hasn't even been sworn in and he's "CRAWFISHIN'".  I can hardly wait until he's really the boss!

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#1.1 - Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:46 PM EST
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{"commentId":3999378,"authorDomain":"observer01"}

WOW Obama really does bring change... want a government job... what contacts or "good 'ole boys" do you know?  Oh no one... send a resume but, by the way, make sure it is longer than necessary so already chosen team can spend extra time reading it and point to your explicit experience just in case you fail, their asses will be covered.

YEP the Obama administration will sure bring a change to the white house and politics! I can see that.

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Reply#2 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:58 AM EST
{"commentId":3999778,"authorDomain":"jurac70"}

I am sure the people in an Obama administration will be qualified for the position, unlike Bush who hires unqualified friends. 

Everyone knows the key to any job, government or not, connections count.  No different from any other job.

The Federal application has always been more detailed.  Unbelievable how much knowledge you lack.

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#2.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:36 AM EST
{"commentId":4008461,"authorDomain":"bhatgirl"}

I didn't vote for Obama but in defense of the author of this article and possibly the next administration, federal job resumes have always been very long. I have applied for a number of jobs through the USAJOBS website and the application/resume portions for nearly every position are very long, very detailed.

As for political appointments, note the "political". How can this mean other than having connections? Duh.  They all hire "friends", regardless of party, regardless of qualifications.

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    #2.2 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:11 PM EST
    {"commentId":4083989,"authorDomain":"richarddeanlambert"}

    Tired of Sensationalism?  Then don't dramatize.

    You have a choice:  If you want to work for the career fed, you can do a one or two page resume, or multiple pages.   The multiple pages will get you hired, the short one usually won't.   It has been the fed system for years, so why suddenly attribute it to Obama?  Oh, that's right, he is now responsible for the state of our current economy, too....

    Most private hiring processes want you to have a short, concise resume.   The fed system is different.  Initial screenings of the large numbers of applicants is done by automated systems that search for experience in your application against a bunch of specific skills and experience in the duties in the official position description.   After the screening, those that make the cut are referred on to a Selecting Offical or team, which reviews the remaining applicants, conducts interviews, etc.  The "resume" is really a chronological description of past experience and education.  The trick is getting past the computer, yet keeping your content interesting and organized enough so that you stand out.  There are typically two types of lists, a vacancy can have one or both lists for a particularly position:  A Merit list, where existing federal employees compete (along with vets), and DEU, or Delegative Examining Unit, where external and internal applicants are both considered. 

    The system is designed to try to keep politics and favoritism out of the process.  The vast majority of federal work falls under this system.  Appointed positions at the top don't, but they are not permanent employment.   It's official name is/was the "Merit System", created I believe in the early 1900's, as a backlash against cronyism.   It doesn't completely stop connections from being a factor, but it helps a great deal.  At the very minimum, you can't select a buddy for a permanent position  unless they get by the screening process which shows you are qualified for the position, and you must state in writing why your buddy was better qualified than others on the list.

    One of the first things that Bush's administration led by Rumsfeld did on taking office was to try to get rid of the Merit System in favor of NSPS--- the National Security Personnel System.  NSPS attempted to eliminate many of the checks and balances of the Merit System.   Since implementation was begun shortly after Bush took office, it has been tied up in the courts and within the Office of Personnel Management(OPM), with most of it's content being overturned.  To date, about the only portion of NSPS that has been implemented is changing the evaluation system for some federal employees. 

    Personnel evaluations under the Merit System were done where an employee had objectives they were to accomplish over a rating period, and the employee was rated against attainment of multiple objectives.   Multiple factors (time away from workplace, getting along with others, etc.) could be easily factored in to a person's evaluation, and the employee could get various bonuses for high levels of performance.   Under NSPS, the evaluation is limited to a very small number of specific objectives, with a very small number of contributing factors (critical thinking, team player, etc.) that are specifically tied to specific objectives.  These are "locked in" six months prior to the rating.  In this system, it is very possible for a person to be completely disruptive to their office or fail lots of tasks, but if they achieved the objectives on their list and did well with their specific contributing factors, they will get a high rating.   Further, under the Merit System, an employee was measured against how they performed their job.   Under NSPS, employees are placed in "pay pools" and coworkers and compete against each other.   This has the potential to destroy collaboration and foster political infighting in the workplace.   

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      #2.3 - Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:10 AM EST
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      {"commentId":3999850,"authorDomain":"observer01"}

      "No different from any other job"  YEP real change. 

      And by the way when will the Obama supporters stop beating the dead horse (Bush)?  If I recall Obama didn't run against Bush. 

      In reality, I guess, that is neither here nor there.  If we don't see some change the economy will suffer and who will be blamed then?

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      Reply#3 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:41 AM EST
      {"commentId":4001093,"authorDomain":"kelly-durante"}

      Oh boy do you seem upset and hurt.

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      #3.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:10 AM EST
      {"commentId":4002857,"authorDomain":"izzyb"}

      Dont worry, they will just continue to blame Bush. They have nothing better to do. Seems to be the trend latley. Got a problem? That's o.k. just blame it on Bush. I know a scapegoat when I see one, and I'm not even a fan of Bush. This is getting a little old.

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      #3.2 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:01 PM EST
      {"commentId":4008477,"authorDomain":"bhatgirl"}

      Oh but tired don't you know that Obama can't "fix" the economy in the short term?

      There's an article right here on msn about that.

      I'm not sure he can "fix" the economy long term, in any case.

      Presidents can propose policies and take action that have some impact on the economy, but control of market forces lies outside the control of anyone.

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      #3.3 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:13 PM EST
      {"commentId":4034830,"authorDomain":"rdzde"}

      But he does have jobs.........

      How many people are without one....now???........Way too many...

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      #3.4 - Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:00 PM EST
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      {"commentId":3999860,"authorDomain":"frank-daddy"}

      Any where in the country, it always has been and always will be about WHO you know NOT WHAT you know! You could be the most qualified for the position but if you don't know the person doing the hiring or have an inside hook-up - forget it. Sad but true.

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      Reply#4 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:42 AM EST
      {"commentId":4000208,"authorDomain":"tmdcedar"}

      In the spirit of fairness and bipartisanship as promoted by Democrats and President-Elect Obama, Senator McCain should share the presidency with BHObama...it is only fair that the power should be spread with the runners up.  It would be the American way of keeping balance and justice by allowing the Republicans equal representation in the congress and senate and state houses across the country.  After all, it's not fair that those who lost the election should be punished for the failed policies of governing in the past.

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        Reply#5 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:09 AM EST
        {"commentId":4000398,"authorDomain":"jurac70"}

        Every job I have held has been based on qualifications, not who I knew.  My employment was in the local government and State government. 

        Who you know helps, but you still need to be qualified.

        An Obama administration will be compared to Bush because Bush is the President and has run the current administration.  It is known that he hired buddies with no experience, the perfect example is Brown who handled the Katrina disaster.

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          Reply#6 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:21 AM EST
          {"commentId":4000709,"authorDomain":"ge45ge"}

          Makes me wish I were younger and a whole lot smarter

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            Reply#7 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:42 AM EST
            {"commentId":4000978,"authorDomain":"jbishop07"}

            Ok, I get the whole volunteering thing. I campaigned and volunteered for Obama in Philly while I was working my dead end job, becuase thats all there really is. So Eve, I have a B.A. in Middle East Studies and Comparative Religion. I don't have the $$ to move to Washington and volunteer. And as I imagine most recent college graduates are in the same position, what do you suggest for those who don't know anyone ... apply for jobs and pray that maybe some one will come across it. Thanks for nothing.

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            Reply#8 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:01 AM EST
            {"commentId":4001717,"authorDomain":"yourcareer"}

            Who do you know in the Philly campaign network that can get your resume to the right person? Who was the brains behind that operation? Find that person. Take them out for a cup of coffee. It's all about being proactive, making connections. And keep the negativity at bay.

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              #8.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:52 AM EST
              {"commentId":4011710,"authorDomain":"katzleo"}

              Or you could wait for your tax return base on no or very little income.  Someone is surely willing to share with you; after all it their patriotic duty.  If that doesn't work, I heard that the President Elect is working on providing manna to his unemployed supporters.  So sit tight and save your Starbucks money.

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              #8.2 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:38 AM EST
              {"commentId":4084338,"authorDomain":"richarddeanlambert"}

              Volunteering helps, and you never know which of the fruit you have sown will bear fruit, until you look back a few years and realize how something you did was the turning point.  You can hope but not expect any one thing you do will play out like you would like.   There is a lot of competition out there, many others who want the same thing as you.

              You work your tush off trying to be successful and you don't give up.

              If one thing doesn't work, try another.

              You think outside the box, do something different than the rest of the pack, maybe find the s*** job that pays less than you want, with harder work than you want, but gives you the credentials that you can put on your resume for the better one next time.

              You don't expect a handout.

              Specific to Ecupirate.... with your college orientation, have you thought about working overseas as an English teacher?   Particularly in Asia, there are a boatload of English academies where about the only prerequisite to getting hired is having a College degree, this would give you great international experience, and connections.... many of the people hiring English teachers are rich and/or politically important people who can afford to send their kids to private English tutors....  plus you get great international experience in another culture.   Most of these schools hire you for a contract period, pay your transportation and provide you room and board.   For the duration of your contract you usually can only teach for the school and the housing provided might not be perfect, but after the year you can go independent and do private tutoring w/the connections you have made for very good money.    As an expatriate, you will meet many other Americans who have been successful working internationally in various fields who will share knowledge and contacts.

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                #8.3 - Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:08 AM EST
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                {"commentId":4001279,"authorDomain":"1117Nashville"}

                On another blog discussing the successor to Obama's Senate seat, there was a bit of negative commentary about Valerie Jarrett's not having any elective experience.  Well, to Andy of TN, please try to remember that former Senator Bill Frist not only had not had ANY elective experience but also he had NEVER cast a vote!  (Jarrett's name is in contention also for a spot in the Obama administration; she is working on his transition team.)

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                  Reply#9 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:24 AM EST
                  {"commentId":4018624,"authorDomain":"jlv"}

                  It seems that no experience is ok for Obama, Jarrett and First.  Sarah Palin's experience was a hugh issue though.  Alright, I'll get over it.

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                  #9.1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:50 PM EST
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                  {"commentId":4001418,"authorDomain":"observer01"}

                  Upset and Hurt... you have got to be kidding.  I own and run a relatively successful small business.  What might surprise all of you bleeding heart liberals is that I really don't care who is president.  As for the "knowledge that I lack", I guess an MBA from a small private mid-west university must have failed me.  On the other hand, my company has been profitable enough that I have a staff of 10 which allows me time to play with all of you.

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                  Reply#10 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:33 AM EST
                  {"commentId":4001877,"authorDomain":"rwhite1032"}

                  Are you the best qualified person for that position??? To bad you are not getting that job. Sorry you do not know the "right people" maybe if you hob nobbed in the right (or is that left) circles you could be interviewed. What you were to busy working.. Well then if you are making at least 250,000 a year you will help us anyway, even if you do not want to. Thanks for your upcoming financial support. Your a friend of Bill Ayers?? In that case we should definitely be able to interview you at least. Thanks for applying. Obama administration a somewhat equal employment opportunity.

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                  Reply#11 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:03 PM EST
                  {"commentId":4001956,"authorDomain":"Peter17"}

                  Here comes the payoff for supporting BHO.  Let's see how much money the government can waste by creating a whole new set of government bureaucracies that you and I get to pay for.

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                  Reply#12 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:08 PM EST
                  {"commentId":4008536,"authorDomain":"bhatgirl"}

                  Go read about what the Center for American Progress wants Obama (or rather Congress to create).

                  A National Energy Policy that would be THE authority for climate policy.

                  Don't we have the EPA for that?

                  What was that Obama wanted to do to get rid of agencies with duplicate purposes? (I understand he might not go for yet another agency. Though I do wonder where all the money comes for the Health Corps, the Classroom Corps, the Green Works Corp, an expanded Peace Corps, an expanded Americorps. These are nice and all but where will the money come from?)

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                  #12.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:18 PM EST
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                  {"commentId":4002695,"authorDomain":"alamo-1"}

                  Obama will have everyone working for the Federal Government soon! I believe it's called Communism.  If we're lucky we'll just end up as one more African nation being run by another incompetent black man.  And just when you thought it couldn't get any worse than FDR!

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                  Reply#13 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:52 PM EST
                  {"commentId":4003153,"authorDomain":"jgb2010"}
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                  {"commentId":4003101,"authorDomain":"Theojt08"}

                  Umm, Eve - you forgot the part about another new job when this administration leaves in 4 years (after PE Obama's strategies fail miserably).

                  Just sayin'....

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                  Reply#14 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:16 PM EST
                  {"commentId":4008552,"authorDomain":"bhatgirl"}

                  I didn't vote for Obama but I hope (sorry) that his policies/plans/programs/whatever don't fail miserably. That will hurt everyone. We shouldn't wish harm to our nation because we don't like the guy in the Oval Office.

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                  #14.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:19 PM EST
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                  {"commentId":4003259,"authorDomain":"zavalza"}

                  Change? New politics? How can be possible is we are talking than to get a job you need to know someone? Is that equal opportunity for everybody? What about is this was white vs black people? if they give the job to the white will it be fair just because he knows somebody (in case you are wondering I am black) will the black guy call racism as a part of the decission? Are not things going to be different with Obama then? What a joke!, I am not republican or democrat but if things turns out like this article suggest, then what a bunch of idiots all of us are for rooting for someone who wont bring anything new, just will change the people who benefit from the person in charge of the country, today Bush - Oil companies, tomorrow Obama - Green Maniacs

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                    Reply#15 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:26 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4004266,"authorDomain":"richarddeanlambert"}

                    Come on Mr. Torres... enough with the indignation...  It is what it is and is what has made the world go round for a very long time.    Just as relevent, your overall orientation is pretty darned apparent when you are attributing a third-party's advice on how to get a job to what is going on within the selection process and jumping to the conclusion that this is Obama's domain and orientation.

                    The article is no different than a thousand other advice pieces you can find anywhere about getting a job.  To go from there to take the GIANT leap you take from there to predict what Obama is going to do, i.e.  "Green Maniacs" is pretty revealing as to where you are coming from.  

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                      #15.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:26 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4008581,"authorDomain":"bhatgirl"}

                      Well Obama does want to establish something called "Green Corps" which would work on "green" projects around the country. (It's on his change.gov site and it was on his campaign site)

                      Sounds great, huh?

                      Why not just let the market create those jobs and get the work done? The private sector is generally more efficient than the public sector.

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                        #15.2 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:21 PM EST
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                        {"commentId":4003398,"authorDomain":"Theojt08"}

                        Mr. Daniel Torres,

                        You are a wise man - I can see that you "get it".  The only "change" we'll see is more government waste by people who know people; not people who are necessarily qualified.  I weep for our country.

                        Peace out.

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                        Reply#16 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:34 PM EST
                        {"commentId":4003624,"authorDomain":"pnlpinto"}

                        No worries.  The ONE will take care of everyone and everything.

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                        Reply#17 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:48 PM EST
                        {"commentId":4003882,"authorDomain":"zavalza"}

                        Precisely Theojt. I dont understand when people try to say that thinking like that is negative (like Eve) I mean, do they ever think about being coherent? I am not worried (yet) about the tax part, but hearing this about jobs, and seeing the unemployment rates soaring, then it seems that everybody need to create a profile in every social networking site known to man because it wont matter if you went to school or not, but if you did, you better were part of the popular faction, and not the outcast, because you are going to need those connections now :)

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                          Reply#18 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:03 PM EST
                          {"commentId":4003933,"authorDomain":"spygirl"}

                          wow. still so much anger and hate for obama. and he's not even prez yet! that's just crazy. you guys are knocking him for no reason right now. why don't you wait 'til he becomes prez and have substantial reasons to nitpick or complain.

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                            Reply#19 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:05 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4004100,"authorDomain":"Theojt08"}

                            Spygirl,

                            You must be younger.  Some of us have seen this movie before.  It gets really unpleasant before the ending credits roll.

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                            Reply#20 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:18 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4004780,"authorDomain":"kuskus"}

                            Really, Theojt?! So what happened the last time we elected a black democrat newbie to the oval office??

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                            #20.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:57 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4005587,"authorDomain":"spygirl"}

                            wow Theojt, are you naturally negative or you just hatin' on obama? he's not president yet. and he's still a human being. I think people should take the initiative to make their life better. hatin' on obama is useless and shows the kind of person you are more than shows what kind of person he is.

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                              #20.2 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:49 PM EST
                              {"commentId":4006395,"authorDomain":"Theojt08"}

                              Kuskus....I was keeping race out of it.  I really don't care about Obama's color - I care about his policies and strategies.

                              Spygirl...I am naturally positive; however I am more than a bit negative about Obama, it's true.  I have read and studied the candidates and formed my own opinion.  My opinion by the way is NOT based on his "star profile", his charisma, his color, or his rhetoric.  It is based on his policies and strategies vs. my own opinion and beliefs.  We live in a great and strong country.  We will be able to weather 4 years of "The One", and then we'll have "The Next One".  BTW - I have nothing against him as a human being - I just honestly believe he'll suck as POTUS.  I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

                              Let's hope so......

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                              #20.3 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:43 PM EST
                              {"commentId":4008610,"authorDomain":"bhatgirl"}

                              I'm certain theojit is referring to Obama's policies and proposals not his race.

                              And the world has tried his policies and proposals. They do not work.

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                              #20.4 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:23 PM EST
                              {"commentId":4019212,"authorDomain":"spygirl"}

                              TheoJt- I just lived through 7+ years of bush. now you know how 80% of us feel. 7+ years already. I want change. mccain/palin- I would have like them if mccain didn't turn his campaign into smut campaign. I really don't think that was truly him, but it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. it was the negativity that most people rejected. and palin- during the campaign, everything that came out of her mouth was smear and attacks. that doesn't make voting for her enticing. people were rejecting that negativity and I'm glad they did. I don't expect obama to be perfect, but if he runs the country the way he ran his campaign, then I'm comfy.

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                                #20.5 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:20 PM EST
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                                {"commentId":4004592,"authorDomain":"richarddeanlambert"}

                                Watch carefully, those of you on the far right with what is going on here.   There is a fast-moving train on the horizon, and if you aren't careful, you might get run over.

                                It should be evident by now for anyone who is really paying attention that President-Elect Obama is for real.  His ability to get elected in spite of any number of characteristics that should have made him unelectable was not a fluke.   What you are seeing now is the same methodical approach in laying a foundation for when he becomes President.  Do you recall President Bush or any other president putting out a web site open to the public soliciting people to apply for jobs within the administration?????  The radical right that is playing the fear card at this point have no idea what they are up against.

                                The very cool thing about is that every single bit of this is the people speaking, and speaking from a perspective of Hope, as opposed to being controlled by fear.  President-Elect Obama is harnessing that Hope and inviting anyone who wants to participate.   With the Hope is the knowledge that change is possible.   

                                I choose to go along for the ride.  There are going to be some bumps, but what a great ride it is going to be.

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                                Reply#21 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:44 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4005919,"authorDomain":"observer01"}

                                As I have stated above, I really don't care who is president.  They could be a sky blue pink hermaphrodite if that is what/who got elected to the highest office of the land.  And yes, I am into hope.  But I am not into idolatry.  I will be the first to congradulate Mr. Obama if the people he picks to make economic decisions make the right decisions.  Hope is one thing and worship is another.  As far as I know we have a president elect not a savior elect.  I believe he should be judged on the merit of what he does and how well he upholds his"Change" platform.

                                So far, in this instance, I see business as usual.

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                                #21.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:11 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4008623,"authorDomain":"bhatgirl"}

                                And many of us just wonder how all this hope and change will be paid for. In the real world, there is no free lunch. It is not about negativity, it is about reality.

                                But don't let reality get in the way of those warm fuzzy feelings.

                                FWIW, I have visited the change.gov website. There is very little content there. I can no longer even access the Agenda portion of the site.

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                                #21.2 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:25 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4012266,"authorDomain":"richarddeanlambert"}

                                All I can say is we will see.   Is all predictions at this point, time will tell.   For me, I am choosing to be hopeful.  There is lot's to be negative about if we choose, but I am tired of the negativism and choose to look forward in terms of what can be, instead of living in fear.   If I turn out to be wrong I will adjust and move on.

                                Almost nothing is unattainable.  The key to success is setting goals, arriving at objectives to attain those goals, identifying individual tasks to meet the objectives and working to accomplish the tasks.  It all starts with deciding to do it. If you believe you can make it happen, you can.  If you believe you can't, you can't.    Reality is seeing what is.  Hope is seeing what can be.  Optimism is working to get there.  I choose to be an optimist.

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                                #21.3 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:38 AM EST
                                {"commentId":4084453,"authorDomain":"richarddeanlambert"}

                                Tired....    I agree with you on the hope vs. the idolatry.  And I agree with you that there is danger w/idolatry in Obama....  there are a lot of expectations out there among many.... for some, at the very least it might be unrealistic expectations.   This applies to me as well, probably.  After too many years where our politics was reaction to fear(Red/Amber/Green terrorism threat alerts posted on the news everyday, where did they go after they lost their political punch?), I admit I was one of the first to grab onto an orientation that is more oriented to positive forward change.   I believe fear paralyzes, hope creates possiblilities, and when I see the positive message, it is so refreshing that it is hard not to go to far the other way.  I need to keep this in mind moving forward.

                                The problem I have is the excessive orientation toward the negave on the part of many on the other side of the fence.  Some are so ridiculous they would be funny if they weren't so sad/scary... calling Obama a Marxist or Communist, or questioning his birth certificate, for example.  Sad where people through ignorance or because they want to propogate what they know to be false, repeat divisive dialogue, seemingly would rather tear down hope than give it a chance, simply because it is a different view than their own.   Scary because there are some that are completely rabid with these beliefs...  I have seen websites already dedicated to the impeachment of a president for his actions, where he has months to go before he takes office... I think the only thing limiting the content of some of the sites is the fact that to go further would get the Secret Service involved.  Where you have a group like that, there definitely will be at least a few who might do something really bad.

                                Of the less radical, many of the rest will say that they will wait and see, but in the same breath will talk about how Obama is this or that, or has done this or that, and this is evidence he will fail.  Hannity and much of Fox News is a perfect example...   Their negative framing of the discussion is such that there is no room for a middle ground.

                                We all have a very difficult path in front of us over the next few years.  Realism is necessary to face up to what we have in front of us.  One point for conservatives.  Hope is necessary to get through it.   A point for liberals.  Both can keep each other in check.  Put them together CONSTRUCTIVELY and we are a very powerful force.  Put them against each other and we will fail.

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                                #21.4 - Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:54 AM EST
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                                {"commentId":4004716,"authorDomain":"Theojt08"}

                                Yes Richard,

                                I'm pretty sure you are right - we will all be railroaded by Obama.  The sheeple have spoken! 

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                                Reply#22 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:52 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4008646,"authorDomain":"bhatgirl"}

                                48 percent of voters are not sheeple.

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                                #22.1 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:26 PM EST
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                                {"commentId":4006890,"authorDomain":"mkrules4u"}

                                Its safe to say spygirl is one of the 40% that do not pay any taxes......

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                                Reply#23 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:13 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4019287,"authorDomain":"spygirl"}

                                that's a ridiculous comment MK-459279. how do my comments make you assume I do not pay taxes? do you pay taxes?

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                                  #23.1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:23 PM EST
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                                  {"commentId":4008202,"authorDomain":"strayne"}
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                                  {"commentId":4009698,"authorDomain":"katzleo"}

                                  I understand that after 1/20/09 all new applicants will now have to declare their party and take a loyalty oath.  The "To:" block of the oath is left blank and you just sign it.  They will fill it in for you.  Now instead of the 5 point Veteran's Preference they are giving a 10 Point ACORN Preference.   Oh yes, you also have to turn out for the Presidential Parades and Pep Rallies.  They will be taking names.  It's a good deal if you can make the hurdles. 

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                                  Reply#25 - Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:00 PM EST
                                  {"commentId":4083756,"authorDomain":"richarddeanlambert"}

                                  Is this intended to be sarcasm, or did you just wake up from a dream?   If you can show any proof on the Acorn Preference, I will write a 500 dollar check to the RNC tomorrow (It won't happen....vet's preference is hard-coded by legislation, as is any other preference).   As for Presidential Parades and Pep Rallies, I am going through the list of sitting presidents since the 70's, and I can't think of a single Presidential Parade or Pep Rally,  unless it was during an election cycle.      

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                                    #25.1 - Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:02 AM EST
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                                    {"commentId":4010839,"authorDomain":"sunblocker"}

                                    me get hired? NOBODY is willing to give me a chance. I'm not being negatory,just being honest. I'm a very intelligent, people that know me, can attest to that, but that ain't enough.I've been friends with doctors, lawyers and very wealthy people.I'm even had a famous great-great grandfather as state senator.that ain't enough. I'm a senior native american,my last 40 years has been nothing but dissappointment in the employment world.since then i did,and still do odd jobs,a excellant handyman ya know.Many people label me mexican,I'm not.if I was I'd be proud. Many people,incl.employers always think I do yard work or cleaning.it's such an insult!!people that know me say I'm better than mac giever,many call me the idea man.knowledge is not always power.discrimmination is not always color,often lack of education is discrimmination. I can talk finance,science,engineering,history,just about anything you want to talk about.Im not a know it all.but i know a lot.and can back it up. my life is deep,like the universe..not to push religion,but did jesus have a PHD?? I'd be eager to help my country to make things better, but like CORPORATE AMERICA --there is no chance for me.just being REAL!!!

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