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Nasty gut bug spikes in U.S. hospitals

Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:46 AM EST
health, infectious-diseases, only-on-msnbc-com, infection, patients, antibiotics, infections, mcdonald, mrsa, jarvis
msnbc.com News — By JoNel Aleccia

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— A virulent, drug-resistant gut infection that causes potentially deadly diarrhea, especially among the old and sick, is up to 20 times more common than previously thought, a large survey of U.S. hospitals and health care centers finds.

Thirteen in every 1,000 patients were infected or colonized with Clostridium difficile, known as C. diff, according to surveys by nearly 650 U.S. acute care and other centers, the
Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, or APIC, reported Tuesday.

That’s between 6.5 and 20 times higher than previous estimates of the nasty bacterial infection tied to overuse of antibiotics and improperly cleaned hospital rooms, said Dr. William R. Jarvis, the study’s lead author.

“Hopefully this will be a wake-up call about the importance of preventing this organism,” said Jarvis, a private consultant who was formerly in charge of fighting hospital infections at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

On average, there may be more than 7,000 infections and 300 deaths in U.S. hospitals on any single day from C. diff., which can cause problems ranging from severe diarrhea and colitis to blood-poisoning and death, the study indicated.

Epidemiologist Dr. L. Clifford McDonald, the CDC’s C. diff expert, said previous analyses have estimated about 520,000 infections and up to 30,000 deaths a year, far lower than the APIC figures suggest.

The APIC study was the largest, most comprehensive review of its kind, Jarvis said. Other studies have been limited to a single hospital or a single state, or they used health care discharge data that overcounted some patients and left out others, he noted.

What no one questions, McDonald said, is the idea that C. diff is increasing.

“It’s important data that confirms that there’s an awful lot of this, that’s the bottom line,” McDonald said.

In recent years, McDonald and other infection control experts increasingly have been worried by the spread of C. diff, particularly the virulent NAP1 strain that produces roughly 20 times the toxins of a common, more benign variety.

The toxic strain is becoming resistant to all but the most powerful antibiotics, putting it the same category as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA, the so-called superbug that riveted the nation's attention last year.

C.diff second only to MRSA
An APIC prevalence study in 2007 found that MRSA was present in 46 patients in 1,000, a rate about 10 times higher than previous estimates.

“C. diff is a lot less than MRSA, but, having said that, it is still the No. 2 multi-drug-resistant organism,” Jarvis said.

The new APIC survey asked the agency’s 12,000 infection preventionists to count the number of patients with C. diff on any single day between May and August to provide the first-ever snapshot of the extent of the bug’s reach.

Of some 110,550 patients in hospitals and health care centers in 47 states, C. diff was detected in 1,443 patients, with more than 94 percent infected rather than simply colonized with the germ.

Nearly 70 percent of those patients were older than 60, with many far older than that, Jarvis said. Nearly 70 percent had underlying diseases, such as kidney failure, diabetes or heart failure that made them more susceptible to infection.

More than a quarter of the patients had to be admitted to intensive care units, nearly 20 percent developed shock and more than 16 percent required aggressive treatment to combat plummeting blood pressure, the study showed.

C. diff infections typically lead to higher costs and longer hospital stays. If infections reported in the survey were extrapolated to all U.S. hospitals on a single day, patients would rack up an average of more than $32 million in costs and 40,000 extra days in the hospital.

The APIC survey confirms what many infection control professionals already believe: that the infection is sparked by antibiotic use that disturbs the normal flora in the gut. About 80 percent of the patients with C. diff in the APIC study had recently received antibiotics.

“We’ve long been encouraging the public not to demand antibiotics as a solution to all of their problems,” McDonald said. “This brings it home to roost, doesn’t it?”

The study also confirms suspicions that most cases of C. diff are contracted in health care settings. More than 72 percent of the infections in the APIC study were considered to be hospital-acquired, and more than 54 percent were acquired less than 48 hours after admission, the survey showed.

That means people are picking up the bug in the environment, mostly likely from inadequately cleaned surfaces. C. diff produces hard-to-kill spores that are transmitted through feces. People become infected when they ingest the spores, usually by touching surfaces and then touching their mouths, or by eating contaminated food.

Most common hospital cleaners don't eradicate C. diff, which is best cleaned with a strong bleach solution.

Antibiotic use, hospital hygiene are key
There are several keys to preventing C. diff infection, said Dr. Brian Koll, chief of infection control at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York.

Making environmental hygiene a priority that involves staff at all levels is vital, he said. So is emphasizing efforts such as proper hand hygiene for staff, patients and visitors; wiping down equipment between uses; and ensuring that staff members use bleach to kill the C. diff bugs.

“In many respects, our rooms are inspected with as much rigor, if not more, as the kitchen is,” said Koll, whose hospitals have lowered C. diff infection rates to 4 of per 1,000 patients.

Patients also have to take steps to protect themselves, Koll said. Limit antibiotic use whenever possible, insist on proper hand hygiene and speak up about any cleaning concerns.

“Patients and their family members should know they can ask whether or not a piece of equipment has been cleaned or hands washed from any and every health care worker,” he said. 

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CancerAware

Bugs like this don't just happen by chance in hospitals. They're the result of sloppy - negligent - infection control. WhoCanWeSue.com?????

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:07 AM EST
Vangogh

Nice try.  The bug exists in the general population.  Many times people come into the hospital with diarrhea, or are carriers and don't even know they have c-diff.

Do you have antibacterial soap in your house?  What for?  You become a carrier for the opportunistic bugs instead of simply being immune to the naturally occurring germs.

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:24 PM EST
CaliforniaNative

C-diff can develop in HEALTHY people taking certain antibiotics. The good Bacteria, we all have, are reduced and the Clostridium Difficile has a chance to overpopulate in the intestine or colon. The things we look for when a pt in the hospital is on ABX is diarrhea (among other) send specimen to lab to test for C-diff. Also some staff and visitors (family/friends feel they are insulting their loved one many times by wearing gowns/gloves) are not washing their hands properly and observing the contact precautions (again this is usually the family/friends, but staff are guilty too) this can spread C-diff to other patients and people outside the hospital. The majority of the time C-Diff is cured with Flagyl (inexpensive) antibiotic. The last resort is to use Vancomycin (very expensive). Before any of you think the reason for using the vanco last is the cost, it's not. Vanco also has nasty side effects and why use a sledge hammer if you don't need to.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:57 PM EST
T Lane-620515

You damn right. Treating people that don't have health insurance (immigrants - the ones that come in last minute or in the middle of the night or from crime scenes or accidents) or a healthy lifestyle otherwise leads to this germ - plus the fact that most "clean up" people in a hospital are only there in body, not mind, doing a half ass job.

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:24 PM EST
goldfish4obamaDeleted
Sepulchre

It isn't just over prescribing. We have anti-biotics in our food supply to, especially in meat and dairy. It is a side effect of factory farming, keeping animals in crowded conditions means they get ill more often and require anti-biotics, and the bovine growth hormone used to generate milk has a side effect of causing ulcers to develop on the teats so once again anti-biotics are called for. These are given to the animals but come to us in trace amounts, but considering the average diet this can add up. So you do intake anti-biotics daily unless you eat all locally grown free-range products or are a vegan (as vegetarians sometimes eat dairy). I myself eat meat and dairy but I try to buy locally as much as possible, from farmers that do not use growth hormone and do not over crowd their animals.

    #1.5 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:14 PM EST
    MaeE

    I am now finding out I am lucky to be alive. I spent 10 days in a local hosp with dirrhea so bad anything going in went straight thru me. I was never told I had C Diff, I begged for them to give me something to stop the diarrhea and stop all antibiotics..to no avail. I finally told them I was going home to get well before they killed me. My son and I noticed that there were few hand cleaner dispensers near my room. There should be one at every door. I get panicky when I think how close to death I was, not from the reason I went in the hosp but from the germs caught while in the hosp. I hope my case and all like mine are reported to CDC but doubt they are, just to protect the neglegent hosp care.

      #1.6 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:44 PM EST
      David-604380

      Not so. Look, C.diff. is ubiquitous and hard to control. Patients in the hospital are prone to infection, because they are transiently immune-deficient and they frequently are being treated with NECESSARY antibiotics, not just for the heck of it. Patients in the hospitals are sicker than in the past. 

      Hospitals are doing their best, at least where I practice. There are antiseptic hand foams or lotions at every conceivable location. Health care workers use them routinely. Do visitors? Doubtful.

      So now, which I am sure is the CDC's (a government agency) agenda, is to give Medicare another reason to deny payments to hospitals and providers. Soon, no one will be admitted and treated in the hospital as a result.

        #1.7 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:52 PM EST
        JustLynn

        I have been a health care worker for over 15 years...first as a paramedic on an ambulance and now as an RN in the ER and Peds ICU... I have NEVER had C-Diff, MRSA, or any number of the "nasty" things I get exposed to on a daily basis....for one to jump to the conclusion that this is the fault of hospitals and health care workers is a very un-informed opinion. More likely the surge of these diseases are based on the overuse of antibiotics. There is a mindset in a certain number of patients that says if they come to the ER and don't go home with prescriptions for antibiotics and other medications, "they didn't do anything for me"....THIS is what causes drug resistant bacteria to flourish, NOT "sloppy" hospitals and health care workers....I can't even count the number of hours I have spent trying to explain to people that they don't need antibiotics because they have a VIRAL infection, not a bacterial infection...all they know is they came to "get fixed" and they don't feel they have gotten good care if they don't get "drugs".....

        • 1 vote
        #1.8 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:44 PM EST
        Logikal1

        It ain't the antibiotics, folks! If you want to know why C-Diff is spreading, look no further than those alcohol foam wall dispensers.

        Ya wanna sue someone? Sue the makers of alcohol based foam hand cleansers that werre sold to every healthcare facility in the US, Canada & abroad.  They never checked to see if the foam killed C-Diff spores.  In fact, the cleansers facilitate the spread of this disease.  In some facilities handwashing has virtually stopped because staff think those little globs of foam mean they're protected.

        They're dead wrong.   I've worked Infection Control for over 10 years and tried to keep those blasted foam dispensers out of my facility.  At long last they're being removed.  Long past due, too.  Now we have to go back and educate our staff to wash, wash, wash!

          #1.9 - Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:35 AM EST
          Mal-Content

          Unfortunately, it is partly responsible- in only some cases. I have 25 years nursing experience in hospital, and one thing I watch for in my patients undergoing heavy antibiotics is this. Almost without fail, when I have requested an order to send stool to culture for c-diff in these patients, it has come back positive. The use of antibiotics seems to be the higher risk, as the only other patients I have had with it in the same setting, came in with it. Also, most often, after long-term or heavy antibiotics.

          • 1 vote
          #1.10 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:36 PM EST
          tmullins

          Unfortunately this is apparently acceptable standards of health care in East Tennessee and Southwest Virginia (America) yet no one cares.  Health care needs a Cure.  Google wise county issues . com

          and see what is "horrifying" but quite acceptable.  The health care system is putting this disease in our homes, churches, businesses, schools but we just can't figure out how MRSA infects and kills kids who never stepped foot into a hospital or nursing home. 

          Profit care comes ahead of Patient Care

            #1.11 - Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:56 PM EST
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            EJW-721522

            There was a recent item online about how grocery carts are being sterilized by running them through a mild bleach solution in a sort of mini carwash. Hospitals may need to consider whether bed frames, gurneys, wheelchairs and other such items that are regularly used by multiple patients might need to be treated in a similar manner on a regular basis. Current measures are clearly inadequate.

              Reply#2 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:44 AM EST
              hg1971

              Perhaps if the hospitals were staffing appropriately this wouldn't be happening as often.  Doctors have to take the rap for overprescribing antibiotics, but the hospital hygiene definitely can be improved.  When you cut staff, only the very basics are getting done.  I have worked in hospitals my entire career as a nurse and let me tell you, the job is not getting done.  Everyone is talking about the lack of insurance in this country, let me tell you if things continue the way they are, there will be a lack of hospitals. Costs are so overinflated and the hospitals are suffereing, but staffing with a skeleton crew doesn't work either. The problem is only going to get worse if something isn't done soon.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#3 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:34 PM EST
              David-604380

              Please see my comment above. Also, read the article. You are partially correct, but the problem is more complex.

                #3.1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:55 PM EST
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                JustMe1990

                My sister had this last year, we thought we were going to lose her.  Very nasty infection.

                  Reply#4 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:58 PM EST
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                  nurse marion

                  Hospitals have stopped cleaning rooms.  They are only cleaning rooms when patients are discharged.  This was instituted to help curb cost.  I guess they forget that germs are on the floor and will get to patients causing infections in wounds and surgical sites.  When profit is the name of the game the patient will be the one to suffer.  I have also had patients who developed gangrene in a surgical site.  This was caused by poor sanitation in the OR, not by poor nursing practices.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#5 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:07 PM EST
                  Vangogh

                  Odd since housekeeping cleans my patient's rooms every day.  The linens are changed everyday.  The patient that comes in with a suspected c-diff infection is immediately placed in isolation.  Maybe it's your hospital.

                  • 1 vote
                  #5.1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:25 PM EST
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                  Ted-721766

                  My father had this way back in 1996 and it almost killed him.  His was the result of too many anitbiotics prescribed after sinus surgery and had nothing to do with hospital cleanliness.  This is very hard on seniors and difficult for them to overcome.  Once diagnosed, transport to a specialist for treatment as our experience told us that small town America is not equipped to treat the infection.

                    Reply#6 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:11 PM EST
                    Nick-721780

                    My father died from the blood poisoning caused by the c-diff.

                      Reply#7 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:14 PM EST
                      David-604380

                      One doesn't get "blood poisoning" from c. diff. One gets severe diarrhea, often bloody. He may have died from MRSA however.

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:58 PM EST
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                      Nick-721780

                      My dad died of blood poisoning from the c-diff, the hospital was only treating the symptoms, not the cause. 

                        Reply#8 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:17 PM EST
                        mom2aspies

                        My mother, age 72, got this from the hospital when she contracted pnuemonia from her lung cancer. She was in and out of the hospital 3 times, the 3rd time I took her to a differenct hospital where she received much better care and it was much cleaner. I took to cleaning her room myself with bleach at the first hospital because they weren't, but if the nurses/aides are touching everything with unclean hands, there's not alot you can do. She subsequently died 4 months after contracting C.diff, it certainly didn't help that she had lung cancer, but I'm sure it hastened her death. BTW she had two courses of Flagyl, which is the first line of defense, but it didn't work. Then she was prescribed Vanmycin which cost $900 for a 1 month supply. For someone on a fixed income, no insurance except medicare...this was too much, ridiculous. Thankfully the second hospital's social worker was able to get it for her for free through the pharmecuetical company, but I think it was too late to do much good. The damage had been done.

                          Reply#9 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:18 PM EST
                          DrJ-K

                          Prevention with probiotics to crowd out C. Difficile is key to stopping deaths due to pseudomembranous colitis.  Antibiotics kill off normal flora and allow the pathogens to grow.  Medical schools are not teaching that probiotics, in capsule form, kefir, activia or yogurts, provided before during and after antibiotics can completely eliminate C. Difficile infections by crowding out this bad bug with the good norma flora. The good flora aslo vitamins and  nutrients essential to keep the immune system on guard.  This article talks about the problem but does not provide the most sensible solution.  Hygiene is important too but for most people, C. Difficile is already in their intestines held dormant by competition with normal flora. The reason antibiotics cause these infections is that C. Difficile is resistant to many antibiotics but the normal flora are not.  A shift in their numbers allows C. Difficile to overgrow. Research has proven that probiotics work. The value of American research at taxpayers expense is lost if there is no accountability of medical education to teach what has been learned. 

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#10 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:32 PM EST
                          Jennifer-724040

                          Yes! I'm glad some one said this - I came to this site to say pretty much what Dr J-K has after reading the article elsewhere where comments were not being taken. There's even a few doctors treating this (very successfully) with a transplant of intestinal flora taken from a healthy relative. There seems to be a distinct bias against the natural approach. Crowding it out with good bacteria is much safer and has a much better chance for success. The only problem is that the very nature of a flora transplant (and where is the flora coming from? yeah, that's right...) is so repulsive to most that they'd rather try the magic pill that kills everything approach.

                          For those brave enough to read it:

                           www. 

                          I removed the http and seperated the www as this site wouldn't let me post a link...

                           

                            #10.1 - Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:35 PM EST
                            Jennifer-724040

                            OK, fine - my link was edited out. Why newsvine? why? what is the issue?

                            one more try...

                            www
                            .cbc.ca
                            /health
                            /story
                            /2007
                            /11/13/
                            fecal-transplant.html

                            If there isn't a link directly above this line then I'm never trying to post a comment on Newsvine again.

                              #10.2 - Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:47 PM EST
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                              GOZO-unlimited

                              People who take widely used heartburn drugs like Prilosec, Prevacid and Nexium may be trading heartburn for another problem: a potentially dangerous diarrhea caused by Clostridium difficile bacteria.

                              C-diff, as it's known, causes severe diarrhea and the intestinal inflammation, colitis.

                              C-Diff Cases on the Rise

                              Researchers from McGill University in Montreal studied more than 18,000 patients from 1994 to 2004. They found that the number of C-diff cases has been increasing, from less than one case per 100,000 people in 1994, to 22 per 100,000 in 2004.
                               
                              What's more, the researchers found that patients taking prescription heartburn drugs had a much higher risk than those who did not. The drugs reduce levels of gastric acid that control C-diff bacteria. The study found:

                              • Patients taking proton pump inhibitors (Prilosec and Prevacid) were almost three times more likely to have a C-diff infection than non-users.
                              • Patients taking H2 receptor antagonists (Pepcid and Zantac) were twice as likely to have a C-diff infection.

                              Antibiotics and Hospitalization Also Risks

                              People who are hospitalized, and those on antibiotics, also have a higher risk of C-diff infection.

                              But while some blame the increasing number of C-diff infections on overuse of antibiotics, the new study points to overuse of acid-fighting drugs as another likely culprit.

                               

                              Sources:

                              • Journal of the American Medical Association December 21, 2005;294:2989-2995
                              • MSNBC December 19, 2005
                                Reply#11 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:37 PM EST
                                Logikal1

                                While the proton pump patients were more susceptible to infection, there still has to be carriers spreading the disease.   If you look up or down on this posting you'll see what I've found to be true about those blasted foam hand cleaners every hospital and nursing home started using over a decade ago.  If you track the rise of C-diff it corresponds almost perfectly to the use of these hand gels & foams.

                                Those foams were never meant to replace handwashing, but they did.  I've done surveys and seen staff members move from one room to another to another and never once go to a sink and actually scrub.  When confronted, the staff member invariably tells me they 'washed' using the foam.

                                I've cultured hands up to an hour after the foam and found C-diff alive and well.  It simply doesn't work! It gives a false feeling of protection and staff have no idea of how quickly C-diff can spread.  ONE staff member can infect a whole wing in a single shift given the right conditions.  (I use invisible black light powder on ONE faucet each in a male & female bathroom, then check back at the end of a shift to see how far the powder has spread.  Staff are shocked to see glowing marks by their eyes, mouths, ears, noses, on computers, charts....every surface etc. THAT gets their attention!)

                                  #11.1 - Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:47 AM EST
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                                  daisy-369050

                                  mom2

                                  My mother, 88, has been hospitalized 5 times since the end of June with c-diff.  No one was sure of what the cause was for this infection, but it has aged her greatly and taken away, I'm sure years off her life.  Vancymacin was also prescribed, cost wise, it was out of sight, $900, but it was the only thing that worked!  Isolation, intensive care, and numerous ambulance rides. She's been out of the hospital for a month now, and starting to get stronger.  My prayers are with you! 

                                    Reply#12 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:40 PM EST
                                    Logikal1

                                    Dear Daisy,  PLEASE INSIST your mom's physician continues to do stool cultures on her for the next 3 months!  Keep her OUT of hospitals & nursing homes if you can, and keep 1/4 strength bleach on hand to wash every surface in her room & bathroom frequently. Don't forget to use the weak bleach solution to wash her purses, shoes, jewelry etc - everything she's touched or used since she first contracted C-Diff.  [those spores last a LONG time] 

                                    She needs to wash her hands thoroughly after using the bathroom. She can rinse her hands with the bleach solution as well, or, what some will do is buy cheap disposable plastic gloves for use when cleansing themselves.  Don't forget to keep her fingernails short & have a nail brush at the sink. NO fake nails.  

                                    Another trick is to set up an old fashioned red rubber enema/douche bottle and rinse away all fecal matter using a warm soapy water solution.  THEN pat dry.  Followed by good handwashing as listed above.

                                    Do NOT assume she is c-diff free until she has had 3 consecutive stools performed. If a person has had a recurrent case like your mom I request this test be done 3 months in a row. [total of 9 stool tests] If she has even ONE loose stool have a C-diff culture done immediately. (many use a plastic 'hat' in the toilet for catching loose stools & getting cultures).

                                    As far as the cause, read my other postings on this thread.  Under NO circumstances should she or you use those foam/gel/alcohol based hand cleaners! They DO NOT kill c-Diff. If she goes into a healthcare facility she & you must insist [demand!] staff wash hands using soap & water for at least a full minute and remove those alcohol cleaners so staff won't be tempted to use them.

                                    Good luck & prayers

                                      #12.1 - Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:29 AM EST
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                                      GOZO-unlimited

                                      History does tell us about the ways different cultures promoted their intestinal health before modern times. In the past, people used fermented foods like yogurt and sauerkraut -- as food preservatives and as support for intestinal and overall health.

                                      Fermented foods are part of nearly every traditional culture. As far back as Roman times, people ate sauerkraut because of its taste and benefits to overall health. In ancient Indian society, it became commonplace (and still is) to enjoy a before-dinner yogurt drink called a lassi. At the end of the meal, they'd have a small serving of curd.

                                      These Indian traditions were based on the principle of using sour milk as a probiotic delivery system to the body.

                                      Other examples are all around us. Bulgarians are known both for their longevity and their high consumption of fermented milk and kefir. In Asian cultures, pickled fermentations of cabbage, turnips, eggplant, cucumbers, onions, squash and carrots still exist today.

                                      Why can't we practice these methods?

                                      It's not so much that we can't, as that we don't. Poor diet and the stress- and pollution-filled environment provide significant challenges to healthy digestion, strong immunity and overall good health.

                                      Progress, it seems, isn't always to our benefit.

                                      You see, the processed foods that are so convenient also tend to upset the balance of bacteria needed to support overall intestinal health. What's more, many food products today are pasteurized or sterilized during the production process, and this destroys the helpful bacteria needed to promote intestinal health.

                                      Over the past 30 years, science has come to a better understanding of bacterialthe effects on the gastro-intestinal (GI) tract and immune systems. As a result, the use of probiotics has become more widely accepted and practiced than ever before.

                                      Today the science of probiotics has evolved into a rapidly growing field, generating a great deal of interest both from physicians and consumers.

                                      Part of this could be due to the fact that some of the incredible statistics about your intestine read like a "Ripley's Believe It or Not". Did you know that:

                                       
                                      About 80% of your immune system lives in your gastrointestinal tract.

                                       
                                      500 different species of bacteria live inside you.

                                       
                                      About one hundred trillion bacteria live inside you -- more than TEN TIMES the number of cells you have in your whole body.

                                       
                                      The weight of these bacteria is about two to three pounds.

                                       
                                      Some of these bacteria are referred to as "good", but others do not provide any benefit. The ideal balance between them is 85% good, 15% "other".

                                      This ratio between the "good" bacteria and the other bacteria becomes one of the critical factors determining your optimal health.*

                                      People say that, "Death begins in the colon." I disagree. On the contrary, it's my firm belief that life is promoted and enhanced in the colon* -- if you know what you're doing.

                                      Maintaining great intestinal health is akin to maintaining great overall health.

                                      Before you were born, your GI tract was sterile. The moment after your birth, colonization of bacteria began in your gut. The first bacteria to settle in were the immune-building ones from breast milk, increasing your level of health and favoring your survival.

                                      In a sense, we spend the rest of our lives "trashing" our digestion with bad stuff -- like poor diet and other lifestyle choices that cause the wrong kind of flora to flourish in your intestine.

                                      Yet gut flora, the microorganisms living in your intestines, continually and dynamically affect your immune system.

                                      Helpful bacteria prevent the growth of less desirable ones by competing for both nutrition and attachment sites in the tissues of the colon.* These organisms also aid digestion and nutrient absorption -- another boost to overall health.*

                                      Before you were born, your GI tract was sterile. The moment after your birth, colonization of bacteria began in your gut. The first bacteria to settle in were the immune-building ones from breast milk, increasing your level of health and favoring your survival.

                                      In a sense, we spend the rest of our lives "trashing" our digestion with bad stuff -- like poor diet and other lifestyle choices that cause the wrong kind of flora to flourish in your intestine.

                                      Yet gut flora, the microorganisms living in your intestines, continually and dynamically affect your immune system.

                                      Helpful bacteria prevent the growth of less desirable ones by competing for both nutrition and attachment sites in the tissues of the colon.* These organisms also aid digestion and nutrient absorption -- another boost to overall health.*

                                      When selecting a probiotic look for the following:

                                       
                                      Bifidobacterium lactis: a friendly bacteria often found in yogurt that is known to help stimulate immune responses.*

                                       
                                      Lactobacillus acidophilus: guards the health of your entire digestive tract.*

                                       
                                      Bifidobacterium longum: keeps your digestive system running smoothly, and helps enhance your immune system.*

                                       
                                      Bifidobacterium bifidum: helps promote a healthy balance of flora in your intestine.* What's more, this organism is especially helpful for enhancing immune response.*

                                       
                                      Lactobacillus casei: works with other helpful organisms, and helps to encourage the growth of other "good" bacteria.*

                                       
                                      Lactobacillus plantarum: helps to ensure that the nutrients in vitamins and supplements are getting to your cells.*

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                                      Reply#13 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:58 PM EST
                                      cleareyes

                                      About 80% of your immune system lives in your gastrointestinal tract.

                                      In what sense? That your microflora compete with intestinal bacteria so that pathogenic bacteria don't set up camp? Just seems like a very high number when that is just a small part of what your immune system does.

                                        #13.1 - Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:41 PM EST
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                                        DRDAD

                                        The thought that these "infections occur due to some form of negligence is moronic.  I am a gastroenterologist.  I had this infection 25 years ago as an outpatient receiving antibiotics for a documented culture positive strep pharyngitis (sore throat).  The infection occurs because antibiotics and some other ailments upset the normal balance of bowel flora allowing the Clostridium bacteria to take hold in an area that would normally not be as hospitable.  Normal bowel bacteria produce byproducts which inhibit the growth of other "less normal" bacteria.  We have as much chance of stopping the development of C. diff colitis in patients as we do of stopping the next big asteroid that tries to crash to earth.  The attorneys, however, are going to have a ball making money on this one.  And the government (Medicare) and the insurance industry will make the misconceptions about this disease a prime reason not to "pay the bill" for health care. 

                                          Reply#14 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:03 PM EST
                                          Rod_Father

                                          My mother in law just passed away on Saturday and one of her symptoms was diarfhea. She was dehydrated but her white blood count was ok.

                                          It is kind of a mystery at this point because she went so quickly.

                                            Reply#15 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:16 PM EST
                                            cowgrl820

                                            My step-son had this 2 yrs ago. It took the hospital & dr's over 2 wks to diagnose it! In the meantime he lost 20 lbs and 3 wks of school.

                                            Last year his half-sister also came down with it but it was found much quicker and after an MRI it was found that she also had a teratoma tumor (a benign tumor containing hair, teeth & bone).

                                            This is a very NASTY bacteria!!

                                              Reply#16 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:18 PM EST
                                              I.M.Curious

                                              Obama plans "Common sense anti bug laws" to remove this problem.Right after his "Common sense gun control laws' take effect.

                                                Reply#17 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:42 PM EST
                                                just my thoughts-375664

                                                Seeing as I'm scheduled for surgery next Wednesday - I'm going to go home tonight and pack my Clorox w/bleach wipes.  I will also bring my own anti-bacterial soap!

                                                  Reply#18 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:56 PM EST
                                                  Ron-423281

                                                  You may want to pickup a bottle of probiotics from your local drug store vitamin section too before you go in.

                                                    #18.1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:20 PM EST
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                                                    hosta

                                                    The "wunder" drug is at it again, the only wonder is how we all survive the Medics.

                                                      Reply#19 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:00 PM EST
                                                      susan-722219

                                                      my mother was hospitalized for surgery and contracted staph infection.  then she got c-diff from the antibiotics used to treat the staph.  i realize that these are organisms that exist in all of us and on many surfaces but i also know that the hospital employees  did not use precautions when working with my mother.  they did not always wear gloves, often used items they had dropped on the floor, often did not wash their hands, and did not clean excrement off surfaces.  i read that states that require hospitals to report infections have experineced a drastic drop in occurences.  this tells me that it is easier to control than we than we have been led to believe.

                                                        Reply#20 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:07 PM EST
                                                        CaringSon2

                                                        My mother, age 71 alert and clear headed, was infected with C-Diff late April 08. She was originally admitted to the hospital for recurring respritory problems, Bronchitus, Emphasema, COPD, and was treated heavily with steroids and antibiotics to clear up her lungs, then was transfered to a local rehab and care facility for further respritory re-hab and physical rehab to regain the strength in her legs. In less that 5 day in the rehab facility she became lethargic. On the first day it was assumed that she was just tired and was left to sleep and rest. The second and third day was a Saturday and Sunday and I had to be aggressive to get Mom to respond to eating and drinking. The only way I could get her to respond was to anger her, which required me to be very irrating. Come the 4th day, Monday, Mom was not responding to either me or the staff and the staff didn't seem to think there was a problem. I reviewed mom's meds once again with the head nurse and pharmacist to verify mom was not being sedated. I called in mom's primary care physician and he said she probably just had an intestinal bug and he could give her some anti biotics which might clear her up in about three days. I decided to call 911 and had her removed to the local ER where her heart rate went up close to the 300's and BP kept dropping. It was determined that she was extremely dehydrated and very low on sodium and potasium, and later tests confirmed she had C-Diff. Several days of treatment cleared up the C-Diff, but the added excessive strain on her system brought on by C-Diffand sepsus caused variouse complications which included, esophogus failure, herpies symplex of the mouth and esophegus and thrush, and Mom finally passed away due to respritory failure. In short, in my opinion and that of the family members in the medical field, she did have incresingly worse respritory problems but we feel the C-Diff and sepsus was a large contributor to her over all decrease in survivability. I was suprised that the rehab and care facility didn't notice a problem. It was later suggested by un-nammed ER staff that she would have most likely died withing 24 hours if she were to have been left in the rehab and care facility. Increased staff training and an information packet for the patient and their family would be the least I would expect to be done to bring the C-Diff risk to the forefront.

                                                          Reply#21 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:56 PM EST
                                                          just-passin-thru

                                                          In the article and in all the discussion so far I did not see any reference to the medical community's recent dependence on "hand sanitizers" instead of handwashing with soap. Guess what: "hand sanitizers" don't kill C. diff spores, which is how the critters reproduce. That, combined with the fact that most hospitals save $ by cutting their housekeeping staff to the bone (so they're so rushed they can't do a proper job) results in all the spores all over the place winding up in the patients. Duh.......

                                                            Reply#22 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:57 PM EST
                                                            cleareyes

                                                            Logikal1 said it

                                                              #22.1 - Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:43 PM EST
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                                                              Mrs.P-722449

                                                              I spent 10 days in the hospital as a result of C. Diff colitis after taking an antibiotic for a sinus infection.  I started having diarrhea which was going from bad to worse.  Three days later I went to an ER, I was diagnosed with C. Diff colitis and admitted to the hospital. I was severely dehydrated.  I was put on an IV since I couldn't hold anything down for the first 4 days in the hospital.  I was also put on an IV for Flagyl which is an antibiotic that is used to treat C. Diff.  Why it is any different that the one I took for the sinus infection I don't know but it worked.  All I know is that it was the longest hardest 10 days of my life, absolutely.  I was finally released and was 10 pounds lighter than when I had gone in.

                                                              Yes, it can be deadly but you have to understand what I did not at the time. 

                                                              If you take an antibiotic, take a round of probiotics at the same time or at least as soon as you finish the antibiotic.  (find them at Walmart, drug stores, etc.)  Probiotics replenish your system with good bacteria which also gets wiped out from taking antibiotics.   Antibiotics do more than kill bad bacteria, they wipe out the good, too.  However C. Diff is an especially resistant bacteria and harder to kill.

                                                              If you should get diarrhea when you take an antibiotic, and it is getting progressively worse, do not waste time.   See your doctor.  Tell him about the antibiotic.  He will give you a prescription for Flagyl.  It can be taken care of if you don't wait like I did.  I didn't know, I thought I had the flu.  Also, do not take anti-diarrheal medicine.  It stops the diarrhea and traps the bacteria, letting it multiply even more.  I found out the hard way.

                                                              My advice really is...don't take antibiotics at all...I don't if at all possible.  They weaken your immune system.

                                                                Reply#23 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:00 PM EST
                                                                Ron-423281

                                                                If you're going to take probiotics while taking antibiotics, you should not take them at the same time as the probiotics will weaken the effectiveness of the antibiotics.  You should allow the antibiotics a chance to get into your system then, in an hour or so, follow up with the probiotics.  Just thought I would clear up any confussion.  Probiotics in any case are a great preventive measure and should be taken everyday.  You and your G.I. tract will love it.  You'll ask yourself "Why did I live so long without them?"

                                                                  #23.1 - Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:46 AM EST
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                                                                  CaringSon2

                                                                  Per GOZO-unlimited -

                                                                  I was not aware that proton pump inhibitors could also add to the suseptability of C-Diff. I am currently taking a proton pump inibitor due to lower esophagus mils damage due to the stress bot setting at my mom's bedside as well as executing her estate. I will be sure to bring this up at my next VA appointment. How long should a person take proton inhibitors, and why does it appear that once I start taking a med prescribed by my doctor, I never get an end date. I currently take a Statin, synthroid, mersazapind (antidepressant due to mom's passibng), proton inhibitor and Torcor - to lower triglycorides.  I have not problem with taking the Statin and Thyriod meds, but would like to have an end date for the rest.

                                                                    Reply#24 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:25 PM EST
                                                                    David-604380

                                                                    Keep taking your PPI. It has been given to you to protect you from scarring of the lower esophagus and for the increased risk of esophageal cancer. If you are unhappy with taking meds, ask your MD for alternatives, if any are available. For instance, there are GI interventional and surgical approaches to chronic reflux.

                                                                    Anyway, you are not the person at risk that the article is referring to. The primary risk is the uses of very potent antibiotics, particularly the broad spectrum variety taken for many days or multiple antibiotics given to treat life-threatening diseases. There are many other risk factors as well. PPIs appear to impart about twice the risk over control IN THE HOSPITAL setting. And this is not true for H2-blockers which are more commonly used otherwise.

                                                                    Finally, articles such as these mislead and frighten the Public. They really are a disservice.

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                                                                    #24.1 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:20 PM EST
                                                                    avgAmerican-658331

                                                                    As a Mother who spent a year+ with her baby fighting this horrible infection,  I find most of these comments absurd and assinine.  David-604380 you seem to be a reasonable common sense person and I appreciate your level headedness.  The CDC was heavily involved in my child's case.  Supposedly there was 'no known' reason for him to have acquired the infection.   There were no documentated cases at the hospital where he was born, he was less than 6 weeks old when he was diagnosed and had never been on anti-biotics.  The only way they were able to 'cure' him was lots of prayers from our families, friends and several specialists, with our dedication to his survival, a cocktail of 'adult' version antibiotics and some 'good' bacteria he was finally considered free of this bug.  However, because his case is documented and the CDC was never able to find an origin, six years later we still are on the lookout.  Today he is fairly healthy, has slight immune deficiency, is short for his age (had acquired failure to thrive), has severe GERDS but smarter than most of the people on this site..given their un-educated, jumping to conclusion, generalization of procedures and people comments they have written.     

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                                                                    #24.2 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:24 PM EST
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                                                                    bakka

                                                                    Not to worry Barak Obama can fix C-diff.  He is the one to help us all.

                                                                      Reply#25 - Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:47 PM EST
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