Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with racial epithet

When it's "we'll smoke 'em out of their spider holes" vs. "death to the infidels" everyone sounds like a cartoon.

When it's the embodiment of change (few would deny that a change has coming merely by electing a black man to the presidency of the US), and someone who talks about strategy and tactics as if there is a meaningful difference between the two VS. "death to the infidels" only one side sounds like a cartoon.

I do not know if you realize this but the extremist groups in the middle east try to agitate us to bring the final war. I do not think that Al -Qaida is in cahoots with  the media to spread propaganda. These guys did run an Air Plane into the Twin Towers after all. And the other thing is that I am sure the Israelis did not commission Al-Qaida to make this statement. Get real these guys are our enemies and they want our blood.

I just hope that President Elect Obama has the spine to put a big gigantic Enemy of the State sign right on Al-Qaidas front door. My greatest hope is that all the hatred would just end but that of course is wishful thinking. In the mean time I will stick to pragmatism.

You sound pretty sure of things for someone who hasn't done a thorough research on the atrocities of 9-11 committed and carefully planned by the Bush Administration and all their hired thugs (remember JFK)

So many Americans are naive about what is happening; this is pure propaganda to get Americans THINKING about 'Al-Qaida' who is supposed to be our 'enemy',, which is what justifies these wars,, Do the math.

News pieces are carefully chosen from thousands upon thousands of stories for release through the AP for the American people to gobble up.

People in high places NEED the American people to have an angry sentiment toward ‘Al-Qaida’. They NEED these wars to continue. This is their agenda PERIOD. Don’t think this playful story just coincidentally landed on their lap. Al-Qaida hates America understandably but so does almost everyone in the world. If you don’t believe this, travel the world and see for yourself.

I voted for Obama and I hope he sticks to diplomacy and peace and ends all these unjustified wars that make money for the international bankers.

The two parties that benefit the most from these wars: Israel and Bankers. When will the mainstream media tell us this? NEVER, not a chance!

I must recant and give you my appologies Bernard. Although there are obviously some very devisive sects of Islam not all are this way. I also must point out that I did some research in regard to the Federal Rserve and its origins as well as the IRS and its orgins along with the history of our country and war and must say that I am appalled. When I found out about bulding number 7 of the WTC it made my skin crawl. I have to say though that this has deminished my confidence in the American Government in its entirety. I do not beleive Barak Obama or any other official to be a seperate part of the control system that has been created. The method on either side of Democratic or Republican seem to be two sides of the same coin. Obama will open the boarders setting the stage for NAFTA to complete its strategy for the American Union, The Amero Dollar and the end of the constitution and our freedoms.

Where did Arabic pick up the word/phrase, "house negro?"  Is that a literal translation?

So al-Zawahri is a racist?!! I can't believe my ears. What has Al-Qaida become?

"Become?" What makes you think they were ever any different?

There is more racism in the Arab world and the surrouinding areas than many westerners realize.

Mona Eltaway is a well known Egyptian rights activist: The Arab World's Dirty Little Secret:

"We are a racist people in Egypt and we are in deep denial about it. On my Facebook page, I blamed racism for my argument and an Egyptian man wrote to deny that we are racists and used as his proof a program on Egyptian Radio featuring Sudanese songs and poetry!

Our silence over racism not only destroys the warmth and hospitality we are proud of as Egyptians, it has deadly consequences.

What else but racism on Dec. 30, 2005, allowed hundreds of riot policemen to storm through a makeshift camp in central Cairo to clear it of 2,500 Sudanese refugees, trampling or beating to death 28 people, among them women and children?"

I think he should just let it roll of his back.  These guys are screaming for attention because America is about to come after them like we should have come after them 5-years ago.  So we pull out of Iraq to channel resources in Afghanistan...and hit them in their caves. 

There is no end to this stupid war...because its a war on a noun.  Unless the US is able to eliminate terrorism/hatred of America, we're going to lose.  We need to declare war on Osama bin Laden, knock the guy off, and get the hell out of there for a hundred years.

Agreed.  Zawahri sounds a little desperate to re-frame the election after the cat's out of the bag.  I think the Obama victory caught them flat footed, and they sense an ideological shift away from not only the concrete policies (Guantanamo, Iraq) that fed Al-Qaeda recruiting, but from the general feeling about the US.  People are at least watching and waiting to see what kind of change will come.  This is probably more damanging to Al-Qaeda than any military strike could ever be.

However, they can make the point stick if Obama does not actually strike a new cord of reconciliation with the Islamic world.

He has been doing that.

I am sure that is what it is, they feel threatened by someone that wants to remove American rights and cut the US military by one half. I am sure that is it. Because Obama has tons of military training and knows exactly how to get those bastards. I forget, is that something they teach at Columbia and Harvard? Hmm, guess not.

rwyn,

This "he doesn't know the military" meme is tired.  Former generals have proven themselves no more or less capable of winning wars as president as have their civilian counterparts (Eisenhower chose to settle the Korean conflict rather than push for victory).  Wilson won WWI, and didn't have "tons of military training," but he got the job done.  Started the UN, for God's sake.  The man's considered one of the best statesmen in the history of the presidency.

Listen to what is being said and think about the strategic implications.  Al-Qaeda will continue be successful in recruiting as long as the US maintains a large military presence in the Middle East, as long as the Palestinian-Israeli conflict continues, and as along as US Hegemony appears to be unilateral in nature.  Obama spent the election vowing to change all that, and won by a larger margin than any presidential candidate has since 1996.  The writing is on the wall for Al-Qaeda.

Ultimately, this is only PARTLY a military conflict, and our failure to recognize that has been the reason we haven't closed the deal.  Afghanistan has been back-sliding, Iraq has become a rallying cry for terrorists, and meanwhile we have shunned substantive involvement in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.  Zawahri was spared when we took our eye off the ball in Afghanistan, and when we ignored the self-proclaimed reasons for the terrorists' actions - US military presence in the Middle East.  We expanded that presence after we were told it was one of the main reasons for 9/11.  Stupid move.  Now, we look to be wising up.  If Zawahri isn't threatened by that, then he is a fool.

I am responding to the post that implicates that Obama will kill Osama because he knows how. Do you really think our best military minds and soldiers haven't already been trying that for the last 7 years. Don't think I don't see what is and hasn't been going on since 9/11. I have been opposed to Bush foreign policy throughout these wars. I was aboard a trident missile sub on patrol when I heard the news that we were once again invading Iraq. I also remember the news from that same week North Korea launched a test missle over Japan, then proceded to taunt the US and its allies with threats that it would use nukes against them. Never once did we move into a position to cover a launch of WMD's from either Iraq or N. Korea. We maintained our same patrol coverage from the cold war era. I knew there was no real threat, or we would have included our coverage of them as our primary mission to take out our enemies capability to launch. I argued those same points that you are speaking of as they were occuring. I fully understand what the presidents role is. What I don't like is how people are jumping on the Obama bandwagon without critically analyzing some of the policies that he wants to impose. Primarily those here at home. The other point on that subject is how viciously people are supporting and protecting a man that is virtually "an empty suit". Why should this scare anyone, right. Empower someone to take away particular freedoms granted to us by the constitution and they will never come back. Take away the right freedoms and there is no insurance that the rest of them won't be eroded. Obama is the first president that I have seen that may have that kind of support from a large enough percentage of people that he can virtually do what he wants as long as he tells them that it is for their own good. Should that not scare you. Kennedy didn't have that, and he was never an empty suit and I will ad that he was the best statesman from our era, period. I want to also point out that he has an agenda for the presidency. Well, that could be a good thing as we have been waiting for a president that doesn't seem to be self-serving. The real problem lies in what his agenda appears to be. If he gets everything that he wants in his term the face of America will be changed forever. Well, is that a good thing. He may fullfill his promises to end corruption on capital hill but at what cost. How much of the constitution do we have to forfeit to allow it?

actually i'm more concerned about the "invisible hand" directing the scene behind the picture/video...

Here's another take on al-Zahwahri:

"Now, Dr. al-Zawahiri has begun his assault on the U.S. President-Elect -- before Barack Obama has even taken office. Clearly, Al-Qaida is seeking to undermine the surge of popularity and enthusiasm for the Obama victory that has spread throughout the developing world, and particularly in Africa -- where Al-Qaida has strong vested interests in at least two ongoing military conflicts.There certainly are ways to accomplish this -- as was demonstrated by Al-Qaida's skillful use of imagery of Barack Obama at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem.

However, by indulging in divisive labels such as "House Slave" or "House Negro", Dr. al-Zawahiri has strayed from being merely disrespectful into being entirely disreputable and dishonorable. By playing the race card so quickly and so brazenly, al-Zawahiri may end up causing backlash against Al-Qaida in the very constituencies he is seeking to woo.

It also invites the question, how is this a legitimate criticism coming from the senior leadership of Al-Qaida, which is dominated almost solely by Arab Egyptians and Saudis? Moreover, what would Malcolm X have thought of an organization, Al-Qaida, that at one time offered a higher salary to its Arab membership than its Black African adherents?"

Exactly.  I believe this statement by Zawahri to be an immense gamble, and a sign of desperation.  In the face of surging popularity worldwide for the future US president, his cause looks to be carried away by the tidal wave of positive PR Obama's election caused.

Or it may just be their way of saying "F U, we don't care who your president is" in response to the outpore that he would be able to reach out and find a common middle ground to "negotiate peace" with these terrorists. That makes much more sense given the effort made to dissociate or discredit his muslim heritage.

To the contrary:

Al-Zawahri cleverly uncloaks the masquerade that in their perspective communities,Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice are not welcome,and can't hold water, or make a dime(black bourgeois excluded).

He exposes Obama's Achilles heel:His hollow cultural base;Obfuscated by big media,the crux of their expectations,and his relation to the M.L.K. legacy, and base of  his world-wide appeal.

Compared to cultural persona non grata, Colin and Condi, Al-Zawahri's perspective capsules the antecedent of Obama's demise,by gestalt.

No, I am still pretty sure that is still their way of telling Americal to "F-Off".

Perhaps we could build a big bond fire and hold hands singing Kum Ba Ya?......I can bring my guitar.

I will bring marshmellows!

If somebody would get some chocolate and graham crackers....we could make smores and all the worlds problems would be solved.

Who is going to convince all people to join us?  How is anyone...? Boy is this going to be a long fought task from the looks of things.

All sarcasm aside, Line Fine Wine is being serious, and actually he/she makes sense. Who was it that asked, "Can we all just get along?"  What is so hard about doing this or is it easier to be at odds with one another?

Pretty sure that's a Rodney King quote, maybe he can help resolve everything............which prison is he in now?  Maybe we could have the bond fire there?

It's amazing how some can take the thought of PEACE and so quick dismiss it as a joke.

"What a shame, when ignorance steps into a debate, it makes light of what is not understood." ....C.Friedman

Well, I hate to be the one that breaks it to you, but peace, real and lasting peace, is only achieved through victory.  One side kills enough of the other side until they give up and quit fighting. 

Or perhaps you know of a way to make peace with an enemy that's sole purpose in life is to kill you?  I really don't know how you negotiate with someone, when the only thing they are interested in is your death?  Where do you start?  "I'll pay you money, I'll withdraw from your lands"....and they respond...."fine...we will take your money, watch you leave our land, and then kill you."

There are too many people in this country that are totally ignorant about the threat we face!

Because ignoring them will not make them go away. They are conveying the message that they will not give up their "Jihad" (holey war) against the "Infidel" (the white man) no matter who we empower to lead us.  

As do you, as do blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, muslims etc. By definition, by identifying yourself to belong to a race, you are racist. By allying yourself to a particular group and attacking groups opposed to your ideals and methodology you perpetuate hatred. Therefor, you become that wich you so vehemently oppose (or think you oppose). You are a hypocrit. Hence my earlier statements concerning the subject. It is no dirty little secret. Everyone knows it exists.

Hold on there rwyn, are you saying that by referring to myself as a Black woman that I am racist? That is the biggest pile of manure I have heard on the vine today!!!

I think my blackness deserves to be celebrated, just as someone else's hispanic, asian, caucasian, or martian heritage should be celebrated. It would be assinine to deny a person's ethnicity and silly to be of the color blind variety. Every culture or hue brings something wonderful to the table especially in this country where multi-cultural people abound and strive to co-exist and learn about each other.

Yes. So you are telling me that you honestly feel as comfortable in a roomfull of muslims from as you would in a roomfull of people of your own ethnicity?

Example. 100 people are invited to a convention. 4 differing nationalities. Nobody knows anybody else. There are four rooms at this convention. How do you think the people invited would seat themselves. Or, even in the same room. Who would you tend to feel more comfortable sitting next to. What I am pointing out is that it is human nature to tend to associate one's self with those they identify with the most. It is a comfort. You start to break down barriers based upon who you can identify with the most. Now by today's definition of racism, by showing a preference of one ethnicity over another, you are racist. I know I am not qualified to speak or understand racism because I am not a minority. Right. So what can you tell me about caucasian heritage?  

Now, by your post and your defensive nature you have already proved half of what I have said. Instead, if you truly believe what you said, you might have asked, what do you mean, I really don't understand. I bet the next thought you have is, wow, what a biggot. Well, let me diminish those thoughts. While I don't deny that I too feel the comforts aformentioned, I hate racial hatred. I have volunteered my time building homes for habitat. I volunteered to help my company restore power in New Orleans post Katrina. I have assisted my uncle's mission in Tanzania. Now, I will tell you I am not a liberal. Now what are you thinking. Be honest, I am not offended by truth as I know I am not harmed by opinions. I have only one judge.

Actually I have had the privilege in my upbringing of being associated with various cultures and religions. My mother's family religious background is Hindu and my father's is Christian so I have had the profound insight of having my world view shaped by open mindedness.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a person being Muslim, as we know in the past terrible thing have been perpetuated in the name of religion, namely in the Christian faith. The holocaust was never denounced by the catholic church. Slavery in this country was also legitimized by passages in the bible and let's not even talk about the witch burning in Salem.

Also please do not fall under the misconception that because you have volunteered you have suddenly opened your eyes to the issues that minorities in this country and in the rest of the world have encountered. Unless you have walked a mile in my shoes or those of the minority persuasion and have suffered racial discrimination as I and many others have then you have no right to generalize where we stand and what we should feel.

I never said there was. And almost every word you have uttered is proving my point. I am drawing you in. I see the hypocrasy of it all. You are judging me and you still don't even know what my nationality is. I have purposely with-held it to prove a point. You have racial bias. That is racism. Also, you are attacking christians. Once again, you want to stop biggotry, hatred and judgment. Yet you are judging. I don't hate you. Not even close. What I see is the hypocrasy of many things, and I am only pointing it out. Why are you being so defensive. Do you think I have never experienced racism? In any form? What do you know about me? Nothing. Yet you are judging me. So once again I ask you. You say you celebrate all nationalities, what do you know of caucasian heritage? The only references you have been made are to attack Christianity (Protestants and Catholics), hence you have attacked caucasian heritage. But you are definitly not racist. I am not telling you what to feel or where to stand. Like I said, I really don't care what you think, I am only making a point.

Remember, I do not hate you, I will not judge you. 

How can I attack Christians when I just happen to be one. All I am merely doing is stating the facts, or are you of the sentiment that the holocaust or slavery never happened? I can tell that you have not been exposed to much because the majority of black people in this country are protestant and a large portion of Hispanic people are Catholic so I don't think causasians corner the market on those denominations.

I think you are misguided and frankly it is quite sad because you probably will never change your sentiments and you will continually think that your thoughts are warranted. Oh but you don't judge....whatever man.

Well, I can't wait for you to post again. My point is that you are just as racist as the white person sitting across from you. Only, the mindset is in this country that only white people are racist.

You asserted that "Unless you have walked a mile in my shoes or those of the minority persuasion and have suffered racial discrimination as I and many others have then you have no right to generalize where we stand and what we should feel." well like you said, I cannot understand what it is to be a minority so don't even try. So what is the point in trying, right. I don't understand that. And you assume to much. I didn't do any of it to appease anybody. I did it out of good will.  

You also stated "Also please do not fall under the misconception that because you have volunteered you have suddenly opened your eyes to the issues that minorities in this country and in the rest of the world have encountered." so in essence, you have allied yourself with all other minorities to a common cause. You have all encountered racism at the hands of white people. It is my debt to pay to you for the rest of my life because I could never understand what it is like. It doesn't matter (in your own words) what I do, it isn't reconciliation.

Well, I will tell you that the village of 300 or so people in Tanzania that have clean water, a school, a church and the knowledge/equipment to farm do appreciate what I have contributed. The families that now own a home for the first time in their life, appreciate what I have given. Catch my drift.

So now, you just completed proving my point. 

I never said anything about cornering anything, but the Christian religeon is a huge part of caucasian heritage, though it is widely attacked and denounced in this day and age.

Well I guess you told me rwyn, christianity is a huge part of the caucasian heritage and you helped people in Tanzania. What a saint.

No one is asking for reconciliation just understanding but you don't get that because you are hung up on the fact that I am racist because I am proud to be a black woman. I still don't know how it is possible but you are convinced so it must be true. (I am rolling my eyes as I  type this because I am not sure if you can differentiate sarcasm from real comments.)

Ohh, almost forgot. I am 50% Native American and 50% white.

You forgot to mention 100% MISGUIDED.

Not just that but you should be celebrating the fact that you are the result of two wonderful and diverse cultures. Not shunning them so you are not considered racist. Racism is not defined by loving who you are and your race but by thinking that who your race is better and superior to someone else's. That is a fundamental difference don't you think?

I only said one thing, I don't shun any culture. I only believe, after sitting back and observing, that every culture and every race portray racist tendencies. Even those that believe they are not.

I find your username rather offensive.

Well you should get over it or ignore me because I am not changing it!