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Brooke is ‘Dancing’ judges' pick for trophy

Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:33 PM EST
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<p>DANCING WITH THE STARS - "Episode 709" - During the semi-finals of "Dancing with the Stars," the remaining celebrities and professional dancers performed two randomly assigned dance disciplines, on MONDAY, NOVEMBER 17 (8:00-9:32 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. (ABC/KELSEY McNEAL)<br />
KYM JOHNSON, WARREN SAPP</p>

DANCING WITH THE STARS - "Episode 709" - During the semi-finals of "Dancing with the Stars," the remaining celebrities and professional dancers performed two randomly assigned dance disciplines, on MONDAY, NOVEMBER 17 (8:00-9:32 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network. (ABC/KELSEY McNEAL)
KYM JOHNSON, WARREN SAPP

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— Most “Dancing With The Stars” performance finales end the same way: the judges praise everyone (or at least two out of three final couples), and the whole thing is thrown to the audience vote as a relatively close contest. Monday night, the season seven finale was different.

From the opening blast of the horns in the band, the judges made it clear that Brooke Burke, who’s been the strongest technical dancer all season but never the most interesting or creative, should be the winner. They scored her well ahead of Lance Bass and Warren Sapp, giving the men a difficult hill to climb with the audience vote if they hope to beat her. They limited their praise of everyone else, especially Lance (who would seem to have the best chance to win), and spoke about Brooke with hyperbolic excitement.

Of course, there was about a half-hour of time-wasting before any of this even started. First, we had to look back on past performances, which are already paid for and therefore have a high profit margin. Remember Warren doing the paso doble in a costume from “The Matrix”? Remember how Brooke’s well-executed but oddly boring quickstep set the stage for her entire season? Remember Lance and Lacey’s mambo, which just happened? Sure you do.

And if you spent the season wishing the dancers were all basically the same, only shorter, then you were undoubtedly thrilled with the crowning of “junior champions” Craig and Samantha. The winners of the kids’ division danced brilliantly but seemed a bit thrown by Tom Bergeron’s spelunking into their personalities in search of something he could banter with.

The actual finalists didn’t start competing until after the show was re-announced at the 8:30 point, when the announcer guy gave the “Dahncing With The Stahs!” title again, as if the first half-hour didn’t count as part of the show, even to the people who had just aired it. Real competition began with a “samba smackdown,” a group dance in which each couple danced in sequence, and then all six of them danced together.

After the filler, finally, dancing
Brooke and Derek, up first, were predictably very good. As they are always very good. Very good, and very dry. It’s impossible to argue with Brooke’s status as the technical frontrunner, but it’s been stressed over and over that the samba is a party dance, and Brooke never dances like she’s at a party. Maybe a stage show on “The Love Boat.”

Her technical skill made for an interesting contrast with Lance and Lacey, who were not as perfect, perhaps, but who were far more high-energy and incorporated more interesting and witty elements into their samba. Warren and Kym were overmatched as always if you pay attention only to the dancing, but again — you don’t pay attention only to the dancing. It’s a samba, and Warren? Warren is pretty much always at a party. Warren brings the party with him.

Brooke and Derek scored a 28, with 9s from Len and Carrie Ann and a 10 from Bruno. Lacey and Lance got two 9s and an 8, giving them a 26. Warren and Kym scored a 25, so the three couples were still fairly tightly grouped.

It was in the freestyle that the heavy hand of the judges began to fall. Brooke and Derek opened with a dance that was wisely chosen to sell Brooke as more fun than her disastrous jitterbug from last week would suggest — a reenactment of “You’re The One That I Want” from “Grease,” right down to the tearing off of Brooke’s demure dress to reveal pink hot pants. In the dress, Brooke seemed stiff and a little slow in remarkable defiance of the music, but once she got into the sparkle pants, she was fabulous. Isn’t that always the way? The lifts were intricate, the footwork was precise, and Len wound up declaring it the best freestyle he had ever seen. Their perfect score was not suspenseful.

Lance and Lacey followed with just about what you’d expect: a hip-hop routine incorporating lots of acrobatics, along with enormous energy and the driving beat of the Run-DMC classic “It’s Tricky.” It even ended with a funny little hat-tip to last week, when Lance lost a shoe. Oddly, Carrie Ann Inaba chided them for incorporating a few measures of cha-cha, Len Goodman said he liked it quite a bit, and Bruno Tonioli said he liked it very much — and then all three gave it the same score: 9s across the board.

Warren and Kym closed the show with a “Proud Mary” freestyle. Warren executed some very nice lifts — doing it as the muscle, not the ballast — but there wasn’t a whole lot more than that to his dancing. Nevertheless, the judges couldn’t say enough about how entertaining he was, and they handed him a 28 — with the 10 coming from Len, who openly admitted it was for entertainment and not for dancing. So that put him in a tie with Lance for the evening, and both of them a solid five points behind Brooke. At this stage, that’s a surprisingly big deficit.

There’s one more dance tomorrow night that will be scored by the judges, but for the moment, they’ve made their preference clear: they want Brooke. And now, they’ll have to wait and see what the audience wants. Brooke has a significant advantage at this stage, but audiences are fickle and finales are hard to call. If Brooke has strong fan support, she’ll walk off with it, but if not, it’s genuinely anybody’s game.

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Tripendicular!

This will probably be my last season to watch the show.  The longer it has run the more obvious it has become that there is bias towards one couple.  I think the couple who shows the most improvement should be showing improvement in their scores and that simply doesn't happen, especially with Carrie Ann Inaba.  I can predict her vote every time.  Her obvious favoritism irks me.

The show has become a joke and the network is clearly digging in the bottom of the barrel to find reasons to drag it out for two full nights.  Thank God for TiVo.

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:31 AM EST
#1 Yankee fan

My DVR was running last night for sure!  The show is called "Dancing With the Stars"....not "Entertaining With the Stars"....Why is Warren Sapp even still there?  His big clunky flat feet are so ungraceful....even after Len gave him a lesson about them.  I think the vote there is more for Kym and her slinky costumes than for Sapp.  I love Lance and Lacey.  She has brought her unusual, delightful style to the ballroom in a way we haven't seen before and Lance eats it right up...he's GREAT!  What drives me nuts about Brooke and Derek, Derek can't seem to keep his hands off Brooke.  Notice the next time they are together after a dance or waiting for scores.  I can't believe Brooke's boyfriend is putting up with that.  And Derek is always panning for the camera....IT"S NOT ABOUT YOU!!  He's a good dancer and he puts together good routines but they are almost TOO out there.  If you want someone who has come from nowhere and has risen to the top, then is should be Lance with the trophy tonight.

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:45 AM EST
RLB-743341

The author of this article obviously does not know how the DWTS voting system works.  A lead of 1 point or 20 points doesn't matter.  Each pair is given an ordinal position.  1 point for first, 2 points for second, etc.  Then the fan voting is done the same way; 1 point for 1st, 2 points for second.  Lowest total score of points win.  What the judges did last night was make their voting meaningless.  All someone has to do is win the fan vote and they win!  That's because the tie-breaker is the fan voting.  So, if Lance gets the most votes and Brooke second most, he'll get 1 point and Brooke will get 2.  They will both end up with 3 points.  A tie.  The tie breaker will give it to Lance.  The judges by ending up with a tie for second have totally wiped out their influence on the outcome.

    Reply#3 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:34 AM EST
    Anna-364355

    RLB, it does not make much sense what you are saying about each couple get a one point position at the end of the evening.  Yes, they are ranked 1, 2 and 3, but Brook was 5 "judge points" ahead of the other two couples who were about even with each other.  I think that the 5 point difference plays in to the total points system too.  Well, I have watched this show every season since the start so I had better slep over to the DWTS web site and reread the voting system rules.

    I really agree with the article's point about all of the judge gushing over Brook.  She has no stage presence or personality, which the judges often remind us is important.  Remember KimK?  Brook is not any more personable on the dance floor than her.  It really does take away from the enjoyment of the show when these biases are pranced out every week for every dance by the judges.

      Reply#4 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:48 AM EST
      John Fredericks

      They take what should be an hour long show and spread it to two. Too much filler stuff. It gets annoying! We want to see them dance. I sure hope the judges get their comeuppance and the public votes for Warren Sap anyway.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#5 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:15 AM EST
      RLB-743341

      Anna, I too went and checked the voting method again as the info I had was from checking it several years ago.  it IS different now!  They no longer do the ordinal position but do a percentage of votes cast.  So, they take all the votes cast by the judges and give each pair a score based on the percentage of the total votes cast.  They do the same for the fan voting and then total them.  So, Brooke does have an extra edge by being 5 points up.  I stand corrected.   The scores after last night would then be Brooke 35.4, the other 32.3.  So, it's a 3% lead for Brooke.  Still not insurmountable by fan voting.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#6 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:33 AM EST
      bpars

      I dislike the judges being so blatant about their favorite -- they are judges -- they are not supposed to show such favoritism!!

      I agree that Brooke is good, but she is boring to watch -- Lance is good and fun to watch -- Warren is not so good but fun to watch. I hope Lance wins!!!!

      • 3 votes
      Reply#7 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:15 AM EST
      Sandy - MI

      I agree that it is time for the judges to stop the favoritism for one couple and do what they are paid to do - Judge.  If they don't like what viewers have to offer, then it is time for them to move on to something else.  New judges would be good.  I thought that from season 1. From last night's performance, Len is an old fool - getting hot under the collar and Bruno with his sexist remarks.  I love this show  but it time for the producers to make some changes before they lose all their viewers.

      • 1 vote
      #7.1 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:00 AM EST
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      Anna-364355

      bpar, my sentiments exactly!

        Reply#8 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:35 AM EST
        Erin-397394

        The biased judges are frustrating.  Len could not give Lance a good score to save his life.  Still don't know what's up with that.  Even on Lances best dances Len was at least 1 point lower than the other two.  Brook is a very good dancer but the fact that she can't straighten her legs drives me CRAZY!  Len keeps pointing it out but still keeps giving her great scores.  Go figure.  Carrie Ann just needs to go.  She is much more blatant than the other two.  She always picks a favorite early on and then that celeb can do no wrong from that point.  I really love the show, in fact I want to be on it (great exercise), but they do need to shake it up a bit.

          Reply#9 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:46 AM EST
          LARA-364179

          I think Lance blew it with the Hip Hop as a finally.  But still my vote is for him, while Warren is fun to watch, he is Soooo flat footed and has continued to perform the same, little improvement. Brook is good but at times exaggerates, she only had one really good performance where she was smooth, everything else was shivering her top or bottom, no real dance steps.  The judges are too bais, LETS ALL VOTE FOR LANCE and blow their socks off!!!! 

            Reply#10 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:10 PM EST
            Mom 1010

            I don't think anyone has to worry about Warren winning. They made it so you couldn't even vote for him last night. All I kept getting was recorded messages. My daughter tried to vote, when she dialed the number the recording said that she had used her allowed votes from that cell phone.  It's all a big joke!!!! They cheat!!!!! The same thing happened for Lance.

              Reply#11 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:26 PM EST
              TOM CALDWELL

              judges should keep there comments to themselfs, they shouldn't have favorites

                Reply#12 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:00 PM EST
                elizabeth brooks

                Go Lance!!!!!!!!!!

                  Reply#13 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:35 PM EST
                  Mr. Crumley

                  Among all this arguing over who should win, I think we all agree the show has too much dead-air-fluff.

                  I personally voted for Warren because I like his style. That said, if either Brook or Lance wins, I'm OK. I just thank God that Cloris wasn't still hanging around.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#14 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:00 PM EST
                  barb-340899

                  My favorite all season has been Warren "Mr. Personality" Sapp.  If it wasn't for him, I probably would have tuned out weeks ago.  Meanwhile, due to the number of times she has been in first place Brooke should win.  I really have enjoyed the "modern" dynamic Lacey has brought to the show, though I believe hip hop was a poor choice for the freestyle last night).  Lacey and Lance were sensational last week and if they had stayed with that style of dance, lsat night, they could have been fierce contenders for the trophy.  It never fails that, at the end of each season, I hate to see anyone lose.) 

                    Reply#15 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:04 PM EST
                    SOC123

                    I agree with the author of the article. Hyperbole excitement is correct. I agree with most of the people who have posted in that while Brooke Burke is a good dancer there is no excitement for me in watching her and Derek dance. Take Derek's dancing with Brooke and compare it with the excitement that was there when he did his dance with his sister, Julianne. Big difference in excitement level. Bruno, what is up with the dumb sexual remarks when you address Brooke during the judges comments? Now Warren Sapp. He is somewhat entertaining. I suppose more so when you are there in person. For me it just doesn't come across the TV screen. It just appears oafish and clumsy to me. Just a personal observation because I understand there are those out there who just love him. For me it is Lance & Lacey for the win. Their hip-hop routine could have been better but I forgive them for it. It might be because it was the only routine that didn't have a stripper costume change or a bunch of acrobatics thrown in. Nevertheless for me it is "Lancey" all the way to the mirror ball trophy.

                      Reply#16 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:44 PM EST
                      Tripendicular!

                      It appeared to me that Brooke made a mistake last night and if any of the judges caught it they did not say anything nor mark her score down, but then why would they when it is so obvious they all want her to win.  I erased my TiVo but if anyone still has it recorded watch the very beginning of the dance.  Doesn't it appear she is just standing there, not really even moving and just holding her hand out to Derek for just a couple of beats too long?  I seriously thought she had frozen up again like she did in the first routine last week.

                       

                      ...and yes her legs bother me too.  She cannot keep them straight and always looks awkward in the short costumes.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#17 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:52 PM EST
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