Officials: Obama set to introduce Clinton Monday

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A deal with Bill Clinton over his post-White House work helped clear the way for Hillary Rodham Clinton to join President-elect Barack Obama's national security team as secretary of state, reshaping a once-bitter rivalry into a high-profile strategic and diplomatic union.

Obama was to be joined by the New York senator at a Chicago news conference Monday, Democratic officials said, where he also planned to announce that Defense Secretary Robert Gates would remain in his job for a year or more and that retired Marine General James L. Jones would serve as national security adviser.

The officials requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly for the transition team.

To make it possible for his wife to become the top U.S. diplomat, the officials said, former President Clinton agreed:

_to disclose the names of every contributor to his foundation since its inception in 1997 and all contributors going forward.

_to refuse donations from foreign governments to the Clinton Global Initiative, his annual charitable conference.

_to cease holding CGI meetings overseas.

_to volunteer to step away from day-to-day management of the foundation while his wife is secretary of state.

_to submit his speaking schedule to review by the State Department and White House counsel.

_to submit any new sources of income to a similar ethical review.

Bill Clinton's business deals and global charitable endeavors had been expected to create problems for the former first lady's nomination. But in negotiations with the Obama transition team, the former president agreed to several measures designed to bring transparency to those activities.

"It's a big step," said Sen. Richard G. Lugar of Indiana, the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, who said he plans to vote to confirm Clinton.

The former president long had refused to disclose the identities of contributors to his foundation, saying many gave money on condition that they not be identified.

Lugar said there would still be "legitimate questions" raised about the former president's extensive international involvement. "I don't know how, given all of our ethics standards now, anyone quite measures up to this who has such cosmic ties, but ... hopefully, this team of rivals will work," Lugar said.

Obama's choice of Hillary Clinton was an extraordinary gesture of good will after a year in which the two rivals competed for the Democratic nomination in a long, bitter primary battle.

They clashed repeatedly on foreign affairs. Obama criticized Clinton for her vote to authorize the Iraq war. Clinton said Obama lacked the experience to be president and she chided him for saying he would meet with leaders of nations such as Iran and Cuba without conditions.

The bitterness began melting away in June after Clinton ended her campaign and endorsed Obama. She went on to campaign for him in his general election contest against Republican Sen. John McCain.

Advisers said Obama had for several months envisioned Clinton as his top diplomat, and he invited her to Chicago to discuss the job just a week after the Nov. 4 election. The two met privately Nov. 13 in Obama's transition office in downtown Chicago.

Clinton was said to be interested and then to waver, concerned about relinquishing her Senate seat and the political independence it conferred. Those concerns were largely resolved after Obama assured her she would be able to choose a staff and have direct access to him, advisers said.

Remaining in the Senate also may not have been an attractive choice for Clinton. Despite her political celebrity, she is a relatively junior senator without prospects for a leadership position or committee chairmanship anytime soon.

Some Democrats and government insiders have questioned whether Clinton is too independent and politically ambitious to serve Obama as secretary of state. But a senior Obama adviser has said the president-elect had been enthusiastic about naming Clinton to the position from the start, believing she would bring instant stature and credibility to U.S. diplomatic relations and the advantages to her serving far outweigh potential downsides.

Clinton "is known throughout the world, very smart, a little harder line than Senator Obama took during the campaign," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., a close McCain friend and adviser who is on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., a senior member of the Armed Services Committee, said the Clintons will have to tread carefully to avoid the appearance of conflicts.

"The presumption will be that both Secretary of State Clinton and former President Clinton will be very judicious in what they take on because there's a new dimension here," Reed said. "I think they've put up a good framework. This disclosure, this transparency is the right way to go."

Lugar and Reed both spoke on ABC's "This Week." Graham was on "Fox News Sunday."

(This version CORRECTS James M. Jones to James L. Jones.)

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{"commentId":4236502,"authorDomain":"alkimija"}

How nice of him.

It's not a bad choice btw.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:15 PM EST
{"commentId":4238492,"authorDomain":"eric-albert"}

Again, these corporate news articles, including AP, focus incessantly, on the superficial and drop the ball on the fundamental issues.  One of the reasons Democracy, historically, has never really represented the will of the people, goes all the way back to the attempt by the Ancient Greeks, including Plato, to graft democracy into class relations. 

The ancient Greeks already described their corruption of civil society in class forms, with terminology like oligarchy, plutocracy etc.  They also described it as a degenerative class process with other terms that included (class) "tyrants", and (class) "Empires".  Plato's attempt to splice egalitarian democracy into chattel slavery and Patriarchy, with his utopian form, The Republic, would reveal a historical lesson and another new class form, class democracies, class Republics, that was lost 2000 years plus later in the Enlightenment.

Still the ancient Greeks understood this degenerative principle, deforming principle, where surplus wealth, social wealth, and an inherent social principles, socialism, already in existence was transformed somehow into a class principle through the class structure and global dominance of class forces via Patriarchy.  In fact, the definition of warped social wealth, deformed social wealth is class relations,  the definition and class description by the ancient Greeks of civil societies, themselves corrupted by the class process.  This put the Greeks of 2000 years plus ahead of today's corporate media, neocon analysis, and liberal apologists who do not even acknowledge the role of this generic deformed principle, as class outcomes, throughout our class history.

The lesson that was lost, and still is lost in these superficial examinations of individuals, by class ideology, corporate media is  that Clinton and Obama, and the voting process, transitional process have very little to do with democracy, and everything to do with the class process, where corporate interests, imperial interests, former warmongers, liberal warhawks, are used to betray democracy, subordinate social interests for class interests, and Empire as it did in Plato's time.

Plato was forced to use "noble lies", class mythology, that today have become class ideologies, to bridge the gap between social power and class power, that never succeeded.   So long as class relations dominate globally, through a series of linked class hierarchies, whether internally, or externally as city states or nation states, no social revolution or democratic revolution has ever succeeded, and cannot succeed, until it removes, and negates all class hierarchies throughout the world.

This requires an alliance between the working and middle classes, where this generic and historical class structure, in existence since Patrirarchy,  which fractures this social middle, by creating unpaid enslaved, lower classes below the middle class is itself negated, so that no social division exists below the moral and social principle of wealth, and then extending them , negating these class hierarchies throughout the world to develop what was inteded in Plato's time , in the Enlightenment, and socialist movements under Marxism, to create a social middle class that could not be made fearful, fractured, divided, and servile, like today's deformed middle class hierarchies that are the fertilizer for oligarchies and class wealth.

Bottom line, to corporate media, corporate, class ideologies, is who cares about individuals when the process is a class, degenerative principle that has nothing to do with real democracy, and everything to do with their whoring class outlook.  Hillary Clinton and a whole host of class and imperial insiders have betrayed democracy and the people who voted for Barack, for change we can believe in.  Obama has capitulated to corporate fascism and Hillary is but one cog in that machine.

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  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:05 AM EST
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{"commentId":4236503,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

There are a lot of wonderful upsides to selecting Hillary.  She and Bill are known and loved by many around the globe.  But their ties to global agribusiness on top of Monsanto advisors and yes men like Vilsack floated for USDA, make it cozy enough for the Biotech Brigade, to be nervous about where foreign policy will go.  

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  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:15 PM EST
{"commentId":4241363,"authorDomain":"eric-albert"}

Pamela Drew:

When you have corporate democrats and corporate republicans agreeing to be the stewards of corporate fascism and Empire, and both agreeing that OBAMA is their servant, you know most people have no clue.   Here is a link to Alternet which makes this point.  The Liberal class establishment is just as capable of being custodians for corporate fascism.  They are all class "toadies" (click on link)
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http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/109160/%27better_than_cats%21%27_neocons%2C_republicans_and_war_criminals_rave_about_obama%27s_%27team_of_rivals%27/

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#2.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:48 PM EST
{"commentId":4243875,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

Quite the line up, the ecomaginary change we can pretend we believe in! 

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  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Mon Dec 1, 2008 1:07 AM EST
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{"commentId":4236745,"authorDomain":"eyeofthebeholder"}

Well I may not agree to his choice but then she did however aid his cause to nomination so thus it compliments such so to speak!

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  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:51 PM EST
{"commentId":4236841,"authorDomain":"ej-rotert"}

This is a mistake. Obama should have chosen Bill Richardson for this post.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:09 AM EST
{"commentId":4241047,"authorDomain":"thomasd-1"}

Yeah right!  So he and Al Gore can go give North Korea another 80 billion of our tax payers money. 

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    #4.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:53 PM EST
    {"commentId":4242385,"authorDomain":"rdonaldsnyder"}

    I agree, Richardson would have been a much better choice. Still, this can work, but only if both Bill and Hilliary change their habit of "leaking" negatives to the press when they're unhappy about a policy of decision like they've done for many years. They need to understand and accept that Barack is the boss and they are not co-presidents in any way shape or form. If they don't agree with Obama on something they need to only complain in private, or quit. In public Hillary needs to snap a salute and say "Yes Sir!" and do as she's told by Barack.

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    #4.2 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:10 PM EST
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    {"commentId":4236908,"authorDomain":"g-lowell"}

    One of the main reasons I voted for Obama was to keep Clinton out of the White House. 

    This pick saddens me.

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    • 7 votes
    Reply#5 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:19 AM EST
    {"commentId":4238026,"authorDomain":"caroaber"}

    Exactly.

    She will continue to be a thorn in his side, and Bill Clinton will be petulant and challenge Mr. Obama's authority. This is an accommodation of Obama's frenemies.

    I hope for the best, yet fear for the worst.

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    • 2 votes
    #5.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:48 AM EST
    {"commentId":4240291,"authorDomain":"pokidice"}
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    {"commentId":4240393,"authorDomain":"fizxdude"}

    Thank you Democrates, not only are the Immoral Adulterying Clintons back at the top of our Great Nation,

    Yes, because the Republicans have never had problems with morality, adultery, eithics or even pedophilia.  Either you are trying to mislead, or you have a selective memory.

    BTW, didn't McCain cheat on his first wife?  I'm pretty sure that he was tagging Cindy while he was still married to his first wife.  You might want to add him to your list of those guilty of adultry.

    now we have an admitted pot head for President

    Not to be confused with the alcoholic cokehead that we have had in office for the past eight years.

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    • 4 votes
    #5.3 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:53 PM EST
    {"commentId":4241054,"authorDomain":"patb-1"}

    I totally agree, my stance was to not vote for any ticket that includes a Clinton again, ever, now my vote has been bastardised and my goal of at least attempting to put new blood in a overly bribed corrrupt political system has been shortchanged. I hope she stays overseas.

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    • 1 vote
    #5.4 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:54 PM EST
    {"commentId":4241736,"authorDomain":"hodgesfarm"}

    Somehow I just don't get it! Here we have a legislator that supported and approved at the time of the vote our invasion of Irag. This is the same basic position and mistake Bush lead us into. So now we have this person appointed to Sec. of State,  WHY?  If this isn't  politics at it's worst  I must be really confused and very out of touch.

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      #5.5 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:59 PM EST
      {"commentId":4242693,"authorDomain":"joelearley"}

      "now we have an admitted pot head for President"

      Gee, How angry were you that we had an alcoholic Coke head for the last 8 years?

      {"commentId":4242693,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"joelearley"}
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      #5.6 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:06 PM EST
      {"commentId":4321622,"authorDomain":"pokidice"}
      Bend OverDeleted
      {"commentId":4321706,"authorDomain":"pokidice"}
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      {"commentId":4236951,"authorDomain":"jfarchonis"}

      I'll believe it after the appointment.

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#6 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:27 AM EST
      {"commentId":4236983,"authorDomain":"pakmanjonzun"}

      Eeeuuw, the stench of pandering is a stinky cologne.

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#7 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:32 AM EST
      {"commentId":4237271,"authorDomain":"kk25167"}
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      {"commentId":4237293,"authorDomain":"barbiefhill"}

      Good choice. Clinton will do a greet job.

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        Reply#9 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:33 AM EST
        {"commentId":4237825,"authorDomain":"pakmanjonzun"}

        Barbie Hill - Good choice. Clinton will do a greet job.


        Why does that look ironic to me ?

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          #9.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:41 AM EST
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          {"commentId":4237312,"authorDomain":"yorandyo2"}

          If she has the power to get this appointment after what she said about him, she has too much power over him. He had better watch his back.

          {"commentId":4237312,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"yorandyo2"}
          • 4 votes
          Reply#10 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:37 AM EST
          {"commentId":4237850,"authorDomain":"pakmanjonzun"}

          I got the impression during the campaign from things he said, that specifically regarding women Obama is what is referred to in street vernacular as a "chump".

          I dont think that disposition will negatively hobble his ability to govern on the whole, but I expect it will crop up to subtly taint his decision making periodically.

          (Was that a pun ?)

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            #10.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:54 AM EST
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            {"commentId":4237348,"authorDomain":"kk25167"}
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            {"commentId":4237698,"authorDomain":"adamjmccombs"}

            I am interested to see how this plays out.

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            • 1 vote
            Reply#12 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:38 AM EST
            {"commentId":4237811,"authorDomain":"jmleejr"}

            As far as having to watch his back, let us be mindful of the fact that if appointed Clinton will serve at the pleasure of the President. She does not at this time have the credentials of Collin Powell, remember how he faded from view after being dissed by Bush.

            It is unlikely that she will run for President in 2012, but she will be 69 in 2016 with a world of experience behind her. First Lady, Senator, Sec of State, Name Recognition, what opponent Dem or Rep, can match that Resume? If she messes up and gets fired, all of that is down the tubes, or at the very least her image will suffer. She can’t afford not to be a team player. 

            If she is allowed to be a detriment to him in anyway, it will be his fault. The  President sets policy. If he cannot control his staff, then he has no right being President, and deserves whatever happens to him.

            I dont' think she or anyone else on his staff will stray from the path and remain in their respective positions. This man is not a GW Bush, or even a Clinton. He may fail as president but it won't be for lack of back bone.

            What if Obama wins in 2012, and makes Hillary VP and Bidden Sec of State. She would almost be unbeatable in 2016??

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            • 1 vote
            Reply#13 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:31 AM EST
            {"commentId":4237873,"authorDomain":"megumigorman"}

            Ahhh the halls of power.The backroom deal made many months ago plays out.

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            • 3 votes
            Reply#14 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:11 AM EST
            {"commentId":4240416,"authorDomain":"fizxdude"}

            Ahhh the halls of power.The backroom deal made many months ago plays out.

            Wow, you must be very important to have access to information about all of the backroom deals that were made.  Some people might think that you are making it up, and really have no idea what you are talking about.

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            • 1 vote
            #14.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:56 PM EST
            {"commentId":4244265,"authorDomain":"megumigorman"}

            Very important indeed,and be careful.I'll rip that yellow smiley face patch right off that blue vest you wear at work.And give me some credit, I specifically told her i believed it would be better to pick the left hand,the Supreme Court seat.She wouldn't hear it.

            {"commentId":4244265,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"megumigorman"}
              #14.2 - Mon Dec 1, 2008 5:18 AM EST
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              {"commentId":4237880,"authorDomain":"megumigorman"}

              BTW,not a Dem but if you look at Bill Richardson's resume,my god what isn't he qualified for!The mans a rock star....but without rock star appeal unfortunately for him,and us.

              {"commentId":4237880,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"megumigorman"}
              • 1 vote
              Reply#15 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:14 AM EST
              {"commentId":4237996,"authorDomain":"bobneve1"}

              I think the World will welcome her. The Clinton's are well known around the Globe. I wonder how many ex Presidents or ex Prime Ministers have wives that are so well known in the World. I for one cannot name any. Anyone know Putin's wife's name or Tony Blair's? Heck but if you went to Russia or England and mentioned her name I bet everyone knows who she is. Her popopularity alone would be an asset much less her diplomacy and political know how.

              {"commentId":4237996,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"bobneve1"}
                Reply#16 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:34 AM EST
                {"commentId":4239663,"authorDomain":"caroaber"}

                Cherie Blair was very much a public figure. After leaving office, Tony Blair joined her and converted to Catholicism.

                P.M. Gordon Brown's wife is lower profile, but the French P.M. Nicolas Sarkozy is married to a renowned supermodel, Carla Bruni-Sarkozy.

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                  #16.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:54 AM EST
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                  {"commentId":4238073,"authorDomain":"kk25167"}
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                  {"commentId":4238130,"authorDomain":"cbbparadise"}

                   I voted for Bill Clinton twice, supported him when the Republicans were trying to impeach him and Hillary was my first choice when the Primaries began BEFORE she crossed the line many times against a Democratic opponent. I can forgive but I won’t forget!  I will support PE Obama’s decision if he chooses her to be SOS; although, I don’t buy this “being gracious” argument. I’ve been following politics long enough to know there’s more to it than that.

                                                                                                                                                     

                  FACT: I’m not a “Hillary Hater”. Fact: There are many, more qualified individuals for the job. FACT: She is still one of the most polarizing figures in this country, which doesn’t make her a good choice for settling diplomatic disputes.  Oh well, now that she’s being allowed to pick her own staff – let us hope that Howard Wolfson and Lanny Davis is not part of it! However, they’ll probably best serve her interest by continuing their talking head MSM Pundit jobs. They’re good at leaking and causing controversy and bringing more drama to the issue as she is – when she has her first disagreement with PE Obama.

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                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#18 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:32 AM EST
                  {"commentId":4238181,"authorDomain":"megumigorman"}

                  Who's this fine young lady with a lust for civil service,this fresh face untainted by the sleaze and slime of Washington?Just another fine example of the CHANGE you all were HOPEing for.No bait and switch here,just true patriots toiling in humble service of the country.No book deals,speech circuits or revolving door future "consultancies"or lobbying gigs on these peoples minds.

                  {"commentId":4238181,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"megumigorman"}
                    Reply#19 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:49 AM EST
                    {"commentId":4238318,"authorDomain":"logdump"}

                       Another where's the change crappy post. Change is in the way Washington relates to the way the country is run and new Ideas that help every citizen. If obama nominates the devil and we change from the way Bush ran the country I will be happy. All that talk of where is the change at this point is as juvenile as some high school kid not seeing the entire picture and writing an essay on the wrong subject. Just makes those poster look stupid as a rock.

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                    • 1 vote
                    #19.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:24 AM EST
                    {"commentId":4244320,"authorDomain":"megumigorman"}

                    Dump,its not enough for a politician to surround himself at the podium during speeches with people wearing blue "Change" T-shirts.Staging 20 or 30 classic "victim" looking, helmet wearing,drooling window lickers,the short the tall the fat the ugly,the wheelchair bound the dark the light,all holding signs the say "Hope",that all looks fine during an election.The Republicans have their props of course,the clean cut button downed white folks with the occasional VFW hat amongst them.If I picked your shop to paint my car black and I come back later in the day and you're hauling out buckets of silver paint what am I to assume?That the sprayer works better with silver paint but I should trust you,it'll come out looking black in the end?I actually hope his presidency is a success and have no illusions about the last 8 years,or 16 for that matter.I just have to call the Republicrats on their bs.And yes,feel free to bust me on the term "Republicrat".This place wouldn't be fun if we all sat around nodding and patting each other on the back for how smart we all are.And speaking of juvenile Log Dump,I liked your posting over at RateMyPoo.com.

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                      #19.2 - Mon Dec 1, 2008 6:03 AM EST
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                      {"commentId":4238843,"authorDomain":"ethelmea"}

                      i think  his choice of hillary clinton is great she has a good standing in the world and people respect her she will be great at the job

                      {"commentId":4238843,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"ethelmea"}
                        Reply#20 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:01 AM EST
                        {"commentId":4241088,"authorDomain":"thomasd-1"}

                        How in the world you can even say that, is beyond me.  When Bill disgraced the nation....afterwards he spent all his time abroad.  Abroad WHO we don't know.  But I'm sure he was on some BROAD.

                        I've even heard rumors from the American Red Cross the guy was over in Africa doing little kids.

                        Yikes!!!

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                          #20.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:00 PM EST
                          {"commentId":4242850,"authorDomain":"megumigorman"}

                          That's not even the bad part,he didn't even give a little reach around or utilize  local organic based petroleum jelly.

                          Zoikes!!!

                          {"commentId":4242850,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"megumigorman"}
                            #20.2 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:38 PM EST
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                            {"commentId":4239436,"authorDomain":"yorandyo2"}

                            The faces in the office of Secretary of State have sure changed since1997.

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                            Reply#21 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:27 AM EST
                            {"commentId":4239478,"authorDomain":"PeaceTalk"}

                            I'm thought there was a amendment that stated no elected official (while in term) can take an appointed position that would provide them an increase of income?

                            The amendment was posted in another seed about a week ago. I'm looking for it now.

                            {"commentId":4239478,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"PeaceTalk"}
                              Reply#22 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:33 AM EST
                              {"commentId":4240623,"authorDomain":"Meagainat"}

                              This just sucks!!!!

                              {"commentId":4240623,"threadId":"430755","contentId":"2162269","authorDomain":"Meagainat"}
                                Reply#23 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:39 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4243406,"authorDomain":"roxanne1000"}

                                you mean like Monica????

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                                #23.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:19 PM EST
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                                {"commentId":4240652,"authorDomain":"audie"}

                                At least when the country self-destructs in the coming years it could help dispel the myth of the Clintons.

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                                • 1 vote
                                Reply#24 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:44 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4243395,"authorDomain":"roxanne1000"}

                                It has already self-destructed under the GOP.

                                So it can only remain the same or improve.

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                                #24.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:17 PM EST
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                                {"commentId":4241048,"authorDomain":"huntcarlee"}

                                Look out, Bilary is back!!! They wanted to be president again and they will be; except the disguise will be looking at her and not Bill.  I feel sorry for Obama because he is either fulfilling a secret promise or isn't  smart enough to see what his handlers are doing and how they are manipulating him.

                                And I thought we were  in trouble-whew!!!!!

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                                Reply#25 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:53 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4241219,"authorDomain":"theseetons"}

                                Why Hillary Clinton cannot become Secretary of State

                                The source of the issue is something called the Emoluments Clause, which is a clause in the Constitution that essentially states that, while a person is serving a term of office to which they were elected, he or she may not be appointed to any civil office which was newly created, or for which the compensation was increased in that same term.

                                The Emoluments Clause of Article I, section 6 provides "No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time." President Bush's executive order from earlier this year "increased" the "Emoluments" (salary) of the office of Secretary of State. Hillary Clinton was an elected Senator from New York at the time.

                                 

                                Were she to be appointed to the civil Office of Secretary of State, she would be being appointed to an office for which "the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased" during the time for which she was elected to serve as Senator. The plain language of the Emoluments Clause would thus appear to bar her appointment ... if the Constitution is taken seriously, (which it more than occasionally is not on these matters.

                                So, "Is Hillary Clinton Unconstitutional?" In a word, Yes -- or, to be more precise, a Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would be unconstitutional.

                                 

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                                Reply#26 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:24 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4241594,"authorDomain":"jopocop"}

                                Interesting how Obama, a law school professor and instructor in Con. Law, somehow feels the Emoluments Clause in the US Constitution is not applicable, or can be circumvented with some exception or evasion procedure.

                                When he introduces her tomorrow and appoints her, it would be very interesting to see what comments he makes, if any, on this Emoluments Clause issue.

                                It would be interesting also if in the confirmation process in the US Senate, whether this is raised as a defense to her appointment.  However, would it be subject to review in the Federal Courts, or US Supreme Court.

                                What if it is proven there is a violation of that clause, that would not look good at all that Obama violated the US Constitution so quickly, in fact, before he even got into office.

                                Lets just hope that kind of issue never comes up seriously and he can get this appointment accomplished as desired, since that is what he wants.

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                                Reply#27 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:30 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4242873,"authorDomain":"parker-ray"}

                                she could have been the greatest leader ever, i believe US made one big mistake

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                                  Reply#28 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:42 PM EST
                                  {"commentId":4243380,"authorDomain":"roxanne1000"}

                                  she would only be the 2nd greatest leader ever, after Barack...

                                  she supported the senseless Iraq war.

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                                  #28.1 - Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:14 PM EST
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