UAW grants concessions, exec warns of depression

advertisement

DETROIT — Worried about their jobs and warned that the cost of failure could be a depression, hundreds of leaders of the United Auto Workers voted overwhelmingly Wednesday to make concessions to the struggling Detroit Three, including all but ending a much-derided program that let laid-off workers collect up to 95 percent of their salaries.

"Everybody has to give a little bit," said Rich Bennett, an official for Local 122 in Twinsburg, Ohio, representing Chrysler workers. "We've made concessions. We really feel we're doing our part."

Union leaders also agreed to let the cash-starved automakers delay billions of dollars in payments to a union-administered trust set to take over health care for blue-collar retirees starting in 2010.

In addition, they decided to let the Detroit leadership begin renegotiating elements of landmark contracts signed with the automakers last year, a move that could lead to wage concessions.

The vote came on the eve of congressional hearings on as much as $34 billion in loans that General Motors and Chrysler say are critical to their survival. Ford has said it may be able to hang on through 2009 without additional credit.

Democratic congressional leaders say they want to act to prevent one or more of the automakers from collapsing, but they have made no commitments to approve an unpopular bailout at a time of economic peril.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said a Democratic plan to tap the Wall Street rescue fund to save U.S. automakers does not have the votes to pass.

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said the union must help persuade Congress to offer the loans or risk destroying what he said is the country's economic spine.

"Let's look at the backbone and the millions of jobs lost if we lost this industry," he said.

Earlier in the day, Chrysler Vice Chairman Jim Press went a step further, warning of a depression if even one automaker runs out of cash.

"We're on the brink with the U.S. auto manufacturing industry," Press told The Associated Press in an interview. "If we have a catastrophic failure of one of these car companies, in this tender environment for the economy, it's a huge blow. It could trigger a depression."

Both Chrysler LLC and General Motors Corp. are so perilously low on cash that the companies may not be able to pay all their bills by the end of the year. GM wants a total of $18 billion in loans. Chrysler is seeking $7 billion, and both manufacturers say they need cash this month.

Ford Motor Co., which borrowed billions before credit markets tightened, says it can survive through 2009 and may not need to tap the $9 billion credit line it requested.

As a further sign of the companies' dire straits, Moody's Investors Service on Wednesday downgraded its ratings for GM and Chrysler, sending them further into non-investment, or "junk," status. Moody's affirmed its ratings for Ford, but said the outlook for the three automakers is "negative," implying further downgrades are possible.

Sent home empty-handed last month, executives from all three companies knocked on doors on Capitol Hill and made television appearances Wednesday, hoping the detailed plans they submitted Tuesday would convince hostile lawmakers to help. CEOs from all three, plus Gettelfinger, will appear before Senate and House committees Thursday and Friday.

Fritz Henderson, GM's president and chief operating officer, stressed on NBC's "Today" show that bankruptcy isn't a viable option.

Choosing bankruptcy, he said, would further erode consumer confidence in the automaker and "we want them to be confident in their ability to buy our cars and trucks."

All three executives took hybrid cars from Detroit to Washington after enduring harsh criticism last month for using corporate jets for the trip.

The automakers' plans were being scrutinized by legislators, the White House and the Treasury and Commerce departments.

"It sounds to me like the companies have given this a lot of thought and are willing to make some tough decisions," White House press secretary Dana Perino said. "We just need a little more time to pore through the documents."

President-elect Barack Obama said it appeared that the CEOs were returning to Congress with a "more serious set of plans" for how their companies are going to survive.

The plans painted the most dire portrait yet of the industry's woes — including the prospect of shuttered factories and massive job losses if Congress does not act quickly.

The much-derided "jobs bank" that permits laid-off workers to receive most of their pay was created in the mid-1980s as a trade-off to the UAW for increased factory automation. But the system became a symbol for the union's largess when workers were paid for years after their factories closed.

Gettelfinger said the union will suspend the bank, but he did not give specifics or a timetable.

"We're going to sit down and work out the mechanics," Gettelfinger said. "We're a little unclear on some of the issues."

Members of Congress criticized the automakers last month for paying laid-off workers, saying it's one reason why their labor costs are higher than competitors. About 3,500 workers from all three companies are now in the jobs bank.

Until the 2007 contract, workers could stay in the jobs bank indefinitely, but the new pact imposes time limits. Workers in the bank must report to local union halls. Sometimes they do charity work, but other times they do nothing.

Gettelfinger stopped short of saying the union would reopen its contracts but said it would return to the bargaining table to change some terms. Modifications would have to be ratified by members.

Delaying the health care trust payments will help the companies survive their cash shortages, which they say were brought on by the severe economic downturn and the worst U.S. sales in more than a quarter century.

The delay will have to be approved by federal courts, which already have blessed the trusts' formation.

Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said she hopes Congress acts to help the automakers. Reid said he would advance a bill Monday in preparation for a possible auto bailout vote later in the week.

The automakers, humbled by criticism from their last visit, gave lengthy plans with minute details about how they plan to repay the government money.

Ford CEO Alan Mulally and GM CEO Rick Wagoner both said they would work for $1 a year if their firms took any government loan money. Chrysler chief Robert Nardelli already works for $1 a year.

Per the UAW's constitution, Gettelfinger receives an annual salary of about $145,000 per year, plus insurance, retirement and other benefits.

Ford offered to cancel management bonuses and salaried employees' merit raises next year, and GM said it would slash top executives' pay. Ford and GM both said they would sell their corporate aircraft.

Nevertheless, Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, said the mood in Congress "is not supportive" of the automakers, although he called the consequences of just one of them failing "cataclysmic."

___

Associated Press writers Ken Thomas, Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Jennifer Loven in Washington, and AP Business Writer Deborah Yao in Philadelphia contributed to this report.

  • 16 Votes
  • Enjoy this article? Help vote it up the 'Vine.

Back To Top

Published to:

What's this?
Who's leading the conversation?
This visualization below allows you to see the impact that each user has on the current conversation. The top row contains the group of users who have had the most impact, the 2nd row the group of users who have had the 2nd most impact (et cetera). Users with similar impact are grouped together, and the average score of the group is shown to the left of the group. The author of the article is also shown on the left, in their corresponding group. Each user's score is based on the number of comments the user has made plus the number of votes their comments have received. The scores are calculated relative one another, so while their absolute value is not particularly important, their relative difference does indicate a larger difference in impact on the conversation.
3.0
2.1
1.5
{"commentId":4259192,"authorDomain":"travelbizcash"}

Maybe they will work for $1.00 but you can bet there will be a way their compensation in one form or another will be in the kazillions again!

{"commentId":4259192,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"travelbizcash"}
  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:17 PM EST
{"commentId":4263613,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}

lol they have already,
these guys get a "performance bonus" in 2011
and performance bonuses depend very little on how they actually perform.

plus lets not forget about back dated stock options..they will get stocks at their value today.. tomorrow when the price is much higher.

{"commentId":4263613,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}
  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 4:43 PM EST
Reply
{"commentId":4259350,"authorDomain":"patronejohn"}

I totally agree. They might work for one dollar but I am sure they'll still find a way to purchase that third vacation home this year. Congress should have never opened this can of worms. Now every corporation in America is going to claim they are broke to get a piece of this sweet bail-out pie, while working families are losing homes, jobs, and health insurance. I really don't want to hear about the evils of socialized medicine when this sort of thing is going on.

{"commentId":4259350,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"patronejohn"}
  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:28 PM EST
{"commentId":4275655,"authorDomain":"gregziglar"}

patronejohn, good point about socialized medicine.  Why, indeed, should all American taxpayers, especially those who have no health care, be forced, via taxation, to pay for the health care of retired auto workers?

Now, I would hate to see a retiree lose health coverage.  That's a very bad thing.  But why should those without health coverage have to pay for coverage for other people?

{"commentId":4275655,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"gregziglar"}
    #2.1 - Wed Dec 3, 2008 1:52 PM EST
    {"commentId":4276019,"authorDomain":"PartysOver"}
    PartysOverDeleted
    Reply
    {"commentId":4259498,"authorDomain":"whyfactor"}

    All right! Now we are talkin!!!

    {"commentId":4259498,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"whyfactor"}
      Reply#3 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:38 PM EST
      {"commentId":4259573,"authorDomain":"jhall22"}

      No bailouts!  Why should United States taxpayers be forced to invest in failing companies.  Let them go bankrupt, renegotiate contracts, retool factories and reorganize to become profitable again.  If Pelosi wants to bail them out, she can use her own money.

      {"commentId":4259573,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"jhall22"}
      • 1 vote
      Reply#4 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:43 PM EST
      {"commentId":4262804,"authorDomain":"PartysOver"}
      PartysOverDeleted
      Reply
      {"commentId":4259617,"authorDomain":"rob-hale"}

      Actually, I feel so much more secure with Nancy Pelosi in charge.

      {"commentId":4259617,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"rob-hale"}
        Reply#5 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:46 PM EST
        {"commentId":4259740,"authorDomain":"andygillis"}

        Ford CEO Alan Mulally said he'll work for $1 per year if the company has to take any government loan money.

        Can you gimme 2 twenties for a ten?

        Ford's new plan is 32 pages long, plus an appendix, and it includes much detail that was lacking during the first visit.

        If the above mentioned detail is number-crunching estimates and not action-items, then we'll need to send them back to the drawing-board.

        {"commentId":4259740,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"andygillis"}
          Reply#6 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:53 PM EST
          {"commentId":4259760,"authorDomain":"Izingad"}

          Question: Would a bailout be cheaper than supporting the potenially unemployeed?
          Truthful, I don't know.

          {"commentId":4259760,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"Izingad"}
            Reply#7 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:54 PM EST
            {"commentId":4262826,"authorDomain":"PartysOver"}
            PartysOverDeleted
            {"commentId":4265643,"authorDomain":"lizbapp"}

            I think US auto needs to take a good, close, hard look and streamline operations, cut fat and cut the bonuses for these clowns. Obviously mismanagement had a hand in this. How can companies reward poor performance or even keep these people employed there? If I do poor at my job, I get fired. Somehow it was a free for all over at the BIG 3. I say let them start Chap 11, it will FORCE restructuring. 

            {"commentId":4265643,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"lizbapp"}
            • 1 vote
            #7.2 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 6:51 PM EST
            Reply
            {"commentId":4259808,"authorDomain":"agboola-2"}

            Wow, I'm impressed.  Too bad it took a grilling from congress for them to modifiy their personal wages.  When business started going bad, cut backs on wages and jets should have been their first move 

            {"commentId":4259808,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"agboola-2"}
            • 2 votes
            Reply#8 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:57 PM EST
            {"commentId":4259966,"authorDomain":"Etrues05"}

            This CEO wage thing appears all cosmetic.  If the 80s were any lessen curbing salary dont mean squat when benefits are factored.   Again if all this does is improve short term numbers the CEOs will make out like bandits in time to resign.  This is not looking at how to reduce costs.   It appears only to look at how to improve fuel efficiency but less on quality.   Why do these guys always have to have their butts handed to them on a platter from foreign car manufacturer's?

            {"commentId":4259966,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"Etrues05"}
              Reply#9 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 1:06 PM EST
              {"commentId":4260001,"authorDomain":"jackmarc6"}

              how about this.8.5 trillion to crooks on wall street.25 billion for value producers in detroit.no country lets its domestic auto producers go down.at least the automakers have something to show for their work.wall street has fake loans on other peoples money.wall street should end.8.5 trillion for those crooked a-holes that sold out our jobs and housing.those banks should be held accountable and their ceos hung from trees.

              {"commentId":4260001,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"jackmarc6"}
              • 3 votes
              Reply#10 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 1:08 PM EST
              {"commentId":4262848,"authorDomain":"PartysOver"}
              PartysOverDeleted
              Reply
              {"commentId":4263443,"authorDomain":"protrkdriver36"}

               i have had it up to here, with this doggy doo. this stuff stinks, mark my words

              the dollar is going to crash. look out for the new world order!

              {"commentId":4263443,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"protrkdriver36"}
              • 1 vote
              Reply#11 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 4:35 PM EST
              {"commentId":4263610,"authorDomain":"m-awari"}

              he is already filthy rich, he can afford to live of a dollar, like bloomberg who gets paid a penny

              {"commentId":4263610,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"m-awari"}
              • 2 votes
              Reply#12 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 4:43 PM EST
              {"commentId":4263713,"authorDomain":"firefly233333"}

              Let the oil companies bail them out.

              {"commentId":4263713,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"firefly233333"}
                Reply#13 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 4:48 PM EST
                {"commentId":4264329,"authorDomain":"gozounlimited"}

                Absolutely!!!!!

                {"commentId":4264329,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"gozounlimited"}
                  #13.1 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 5:19 PM EST
                  Reply
                  {"commentId":4263735,"authorDomain":"sydney-smidt"}

                  Let all three of them invest their total net worth in their respective companies before asking taxpayers for a low interest loan. This was an idea of Warren Buffet and I am in total agreement. The government is not doing anything to bail me out of my depleted retirement account.

                  {"commentId":4263735,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"sydney-smidt"}
                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#14 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 4:49 PM EST
                  {"commentId":4265563,"authorDomain":"lizbapp"}

                  I am sick and tired of all these people that live high on the hog come beggin' for a handout while they have a literal stockpile of money in their bank accounts. How about my neighbors that have lost their jobs and some have lost their homes? I think it is high time to bail out Joe six pack and leave Richard Van Rich to fix the mess in his own company. My neighbor cannot fly out to DC in a LEAR jet and put his hand out and get some. But these corporate execs fly on down in Lears (separately I may add), stay in a high end hotel room, get catered top shelf food & wine and get to write it off to the same company they state needs $$$ for Uncle Sam. What a joke! Everyone is lining up for a freebee. Save these companies, but who is saving the regular Joe? High time to get the financial X-LAX out for Joe taxpayer so he can go out, spend and stimulate the economy. When Joe spends, it makes the world go round'! When GM / FORD get it, where will THEY spend it? Keep UAW employed at high rates? Why are Toyota and Honda not in the same position?give Joe taxpayer the $$$ and he just may go out and get a big screen, bass boat or maybe even a pickup truck! Purchases STIMULATE the economy. Giving poorly managed companies a life preserver does not stimulate the economy. Maybe a bankruptcy will force these dinosaurs to restructure their operations, streamline then to generate a profit...first starting at the top, slashing salaries and benefits. WHY are these people rewarded with perks, high salaries, etc when the companies are in obvious peril? Who GETS rewarded for running a company into the ground? Where can I sign up for that "cake" job? Greedy jerks!

                  {"commentId":4265563,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"lizbapp"}
                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#15 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 6:44 PM EST
                  {"commentId":4269443,"authorDomain":"debmark"}

                  Toyota and Honda sales have fallen just like the GM/Ford/Chrysler.  So you better rush out and buy a new piece of foreign crap to keep those fine corporations running so you can complete your pissing on American workers.  Whatever you do, you are paid too much.  Give it back and if you have any benefits they should be slashed.  You are a lazy, greedy American worker and should be happy when your salary and benefits match those of workers in developing countries.  Lazy ass, American worker.

                  {"commentId":4269443,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"debmark"}
                    #15.1 - Wed Dec 3, 2008 1:08 AM EST
                    Reply
                    {"commentId":4265648,"authorDomain":"PartysOver"}
                    PartysOverDeleted
                    {"commentId":4266045,"authorDomain":"lizbapp"}

                    Why are Toyota and Honda not in the same position?

                    Read the story they are. They are hurting from the economy too.

                    They are not in the soup line yet. I worked for Honda and although NOT perfect, they do run a pretty tight ship. Even in the 1990's they were aware of watching their pennies. Those guys are hurting too, but everyone is to various degrees. Some are limping and others are in need of life support.

                    How about my neighbors that have lost their jobs and some have lost their homes?

                    multiply that by 2.5 million more people

                    Some are my neighbors that lost their jobs from the auto sector (why were operations not streamlined months or even YEARS ago?  Maybe pay cuts should have been initiated for top people as the companies are underperforming.)  Better reason to get regular Joe some $$$ to go out and spend instead of bailing out every single mismanaged corporation out there. 

                    Where can I sign up for that "cake" job? Greedy jerks!

                    I hear the government is looking for some good people.

                    NO thanks! I have morals and ethics.

                    {"commentId":4266045,"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363","authorDomain":"lizbapp"}
                      Reply#17 - Tue Dec 2, 2008 7:22 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4266170,"authorDomain":"PartysOver"}
                      PartysOverDeleted
                      Reply
                      {"canLink":false,"threadId":"432623","isPrivate":false}
                      Leave a Comment:
                      You're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML Mode instead.
                      As a new user, you may notice a few temporary content restrictions. Click here for more info.
                      {"threadId":"432623","contentId":"2169363"}
                      Start TrackingStart Tracking
                      Stop TrackingStop Tracking