Boy, 4, shoots babysitter for stepping on his foot

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NORTH JACKSON — Police say an angry 4-year-old Ohio boy grabbed a gun from a closet and shot his baby sitter. Nathan Beavers, 18, was hospitalized Sunday with minor wounds to his arm and side after the shotgun attack. Police say another teen was also injured.

Witnesses told police the child was angry because Beavers accidentally stepped on his foot. Beavers was watching the child at a mobile home in Jackson with several other teenagers and several other children.

Jackson County Sheriff John Shashteen says authorities are investigating. The child has not been charged.

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{"commentId":4677393,"authorDomain":"anrkist"}

That kid is lucky, he should be charged with attempted murder if you ask me.

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Reply#1 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 8:42 PM EST
{"commentId":4678078,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

You want to charge a 4-year old with attempted murder?  That's kind of sick, dude.

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#1.1 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 9:46 PM EST
{"commentId":4678871,"authorDomain":"aringland"}

This happened in Ohio. They won't charge the kid there. :)

Now, had it happened in Texas.... (yes, I live there)

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#1.2 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 11:04 PM EST
{"commentId":4679094,"authorDomain":"dougdemilo"}

the parents should be charged for allowing a firearm to be accessable to a child

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#1.3 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 11:30 PM EST
{"commentId":4679175,"authorDomain":"pykacyka"}

That kid needs to be locked up in a mental hospital! Shooting someone b/c they stepped on your foot? Are you f'ing crazy? I never shot anyone when I was younger... must be an Ohio trailer park thing. Either way, this kid is obviously well on his way to a life of crime, so he either needs to be rehabilitated or locked away in a place where he can't be a hazard to society. His parents should probably be publicly flogged for raising their kid to turn out like this.

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#1.4 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 11:40 PM EST
{"commentId":4681534,"authorDomain":"anrkist"}

Newsvine - Failing at sarcasm since it began.

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#1.5 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:41 AM EST
{"commentId":4685323,"authorDomain":"Ask-A-Butcher"}

D DeMilo

the parents should be charged for allowing a firearm to be accessable to a child

Bingo!

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    #1.6 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 12:50 PM EST
    {"commentId":4685400,"authorDomain":"Cooper1"}

    The parents should be charged with gross stupidity for not teaching their child right from wrong and for giving a child access to a firearm. Especially a loaded firearm.

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      #1.7 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 12:53 PM EST
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      {"commentId":4678042,"authorDomain":"aringland"}

      Guns should be kept unloaded, locked up, with trigger locks. A 4 year old should never have been able to have access to that gun.

      Maybe the parents will actually learn some kind of lesson from this.

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      Reply#2 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 9:42 PM EST
      {"commentId":4680549,"authorDomain":"olivershagnastey"}

      LadySaidy, it isn't a question of loaded, or unloaded, trigger locks,etc. It is a matter of parents teaching children respect and responsibility.
      I was raised around tools among them were guns. My children were raised around them also.

      I believe the parents are responsible, or should be. But the issue is respect for people and the misapplication of a tool. Many tools have dangerous potential if misapplied.

      The parents should have taught the child to respect people and respect the destructive potential of the tool.

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      #2.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 4:04 AM EST
      {"commentId":4680747,"authorDomain":"lkelnhofer"}

      I must say tho it would be difficult to teach a child that young to respect a firearm..in this case one would have to look into the short history of the child and how or if the parents parented the child at all, afterall if the child had a lot of toy guns he wouldnt of known the parents wpn was real.

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      #2.2 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 5:45 AM EST
      {"commentId":4683819,"authorDomain":"olivershagnastey"}

      I grew up around firearms. My children did also. When my wife and I were expecting our first child, we agreed there would be NO TOY GUNS!  Some friends gave our son some toy pistols when he was about two years old. We allowed him to handle them when we went out to target practice. We did our practice in a structured manner. We took turns, and observed strict safety rules. We only allowed one person at a time to be "on the line" so to speak. All others must have their firearms cleared and pointing "down range."  The child was a allowed to load his cap pistols when he go to go to the line, he fired 5 shots and cleared his pistol and stepped back from the line.

      He owned firearms from the time he was 8 or 10. We had arms in the house that he could have gotten to from the time he could walk. But he was taught, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TOY GUN!  NEVER PICK UP A GUN WHEN YOU ARE ANGRY! NEVER POINT A GUN AT ANYTHING YOU DO NOT WISH TO SHOOT! And all the other rules of firearms safety.

      Our children are not special, but we TAUGHT them, respect and responsibility.The time you invest in teaching your children is the best investment you can make. If you do not make that investment, you will not be happy with the things they learn on their own or with the little hoodlums they may encounter.

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      #2.3 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 11:32 AM EST
      {"commentId":4684215,"authorDomain":"aringland"}

      Oliver, thank you for teaching your children responsibility.

      Obviously, these parents didn't.

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      #2.4 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 11:55 AM EST
      {"commentId":4685095,"authorDomain":"Cooper1"}

      Way to go Oliver!!

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      #2.5 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 12:39 PM EST
      {"commentId":4685188,"authorDomain":"dougdemilo"}

      Oliver, you sound like a good parent (and probably a country boy)

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      #2.6 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 12:44 PM EST
      {"commentId":4688615,"authorDomain":"headstoney"}

      Hi DeMilo, ex Zombie here, deleted other account......how's the heart....no more dying lately huh???........... :)

      I grew up a country boy, I got my first bb gun about 6 yrs. old and my first 410 shotgun at about 10 and grew up with an uncle who had a federal automatic weapons dealer license...played with fully automatics and everything as a kid...But I was taught safety and respect for the weapon first......even with the bb gun............ :)

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      #2.7 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:27 PM EST
      {"commentId":4689088,"authorDomain":"aringland"}

      My grandfather taught me how to shoot, also starting with bb guns, then on to a 22 rifle.

      And that is when we found out I can't hit the broadside of a barn from five feet away.

      I have a very healthy respect for guns. And for everyone else's safety, I stay well away from them.

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      #2.8 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:50 PM EST
      {"commentId":4689147,"authorDomain":"headstoney"}

      Note to self....... "SELF".........never go hunting with the "DICK" Cheney, the dog who shot his owner, and LadySaidy..........J/k.......Saidy............ *)

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      #2.9 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:54 PM EST
      {"commentId":4689762,"authorDomain":"aringland"}

      No problem. I wouldn't go hunting with me either. :)

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      #2.10 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 4:23 PM EST
      {"commentId":4691509,"authorDomain":"maxcat710"}

      I was raised with guns and was taught the same way Oliver taught his kids.  We had guns.  We respected the guns and still do.

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      #2.11 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:11 PM EST
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      {"commentId":4678732,"authorDomain":"wendy-notarnicola"}

      Yeah, I always make sure my 4 year old knows just where my shotgun is, too.  And the ammo.  I leave it loaded right out in the open so the kid can shoot hisself some varmint for lunch or git mad at his babysetter.

      Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people????

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      Reply#3 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 10:51 PM EST
      {"commentId":4679122,"authorDomain":"shub"}

      That'll teach those parents they need to get a better babysitter that won't step on little boys and girls feet. Big bullies never win well except for me, but that's another story.

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      Reply#4 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 11:33 PM EST
      {"commentId":4679855,"authorDomain":"alkimija"}

      Got the feeling that there's wayyyy more to this story than we're hearing.

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      Reply#5 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:11 AM EST
      {"commentId":4680352,"authorDomain":"antoniowillia20"}

      I don't know about anyone else but kids with guns is getting outta hand. What in the world is going on? Just 25 years ago this was almost unheard of. Now I'm reading it almost every month. When did the mindset of children change from playing cops and robbers to hurt my feelings your dead? Spank me and i'll call the cops.

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      Reply#6 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:53 AM EST
      {"commentId":4683684,"authorDomain":"JesusaBernardo"}

      Just 25 years ago this was almost unheard of. Now I'm reading it almost every month. When did the mindset of children change from playing cops and robbers to hurt my feelings your dead? Spank me and i'll call the cops

      Perhaps, it began when spanking kids became taboo.

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      #6.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 11:24 AM EST
      {"commentId":4683854,"authorDomain":"olivershagnastey"}

      Tony it isn't kids with guns that is the problem, it is unsupervised kids with guns. You need to teach them. How, When, Where!

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      #6.2 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 11:34 AM EST
      {"commentId":4686369,"authorDomain":"witchofthenorth"}

      Just 25 years ago this was almost unheard of. Now I'm reading it almost every month. When did the mindset of children change from playing cops and robbers to hurt my feelings your dead? Spank me and i'll call the cops

      Perhaps, it began when spanking kids became taboo.

      Perhaps it began when the number of guns in America became larger than the number of people.

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      #6.3 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:37 PM EST
      {"commentId":4687540,"authorDomain":"bowmantool--onnie"}

      Glinda, discipline and self control have been replaced by disrespect and parental denial.

      Children simply do not behave the way they used to.  How many times have you witnessed kids running wild in restaraunts, screaming in malls, and so on.   What ever happened to "seen and not heard" .  My parents raised me and my brothers that way, and I raised my daughter that way. It doesn't prevent them from self disovery to learn discipline and respect.  I know, my daughter is an attorney, now.  She was promoted to speak her mind, when it was appropriate.  Parenting needs to become a priority with parents again.   Stop worrying about the soccer game and the mini van and pay attention to the real needs of the child.

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      #6.4 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:33 PM EST
      {"commentId":4687695,"authorDomain":"wendy-notarnicola"}

      Adults don't behave the way they used to, either.

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      #6.5 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:41 PM EST
      {"commentId":4687884,"authorDomain":"bowmantool--onnie"}

      biggerthebetter- You are so right. Baby-boomers raising booming babies.

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      #6.6 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:50 PM EST
      {"commentId":4694292,"authorDomain":"witchofthenorth"}

      What ever happened to "seen and not heard" .  

      Oh I don't know, people started treating their kids like humans instead of dolls, I guess.   There is a clear and sad lack of competence among today's parents but it isn't because their kids need less attention. 

      Parent your own way but don't expect everybody to act like Victorian-era tyrants - we need to raise our kids to live in the world as it is today and kids trained to defer to and fear authority are not as well-suited to succeed as their more confident peers.

      Just the opinion of the parent of a very bright, high-achieving 20-year old son.  For what it's worth.

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      #6.7 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:57 PM EST
      {"commentId":4695379,"authorDomain":"olivershagnastey"}

      Glinda: you can't blame the guns for the way people misbehave. Guns are inanimate objects. People must have propriety and be responsible. And it doesn't harm children to have self-control and respect others. It is actually a positive trait that we can give our children, if we are wise enough to care for them and nurture them.

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      #6.8 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 11:57 PM EST
      {"commentId":4699448,"authorDomain":"bowmantool--onnie"}

      Glinda- seen and not heard was used to instill in children to listen to adult conversations and learn how to behave

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      #6.9 - Wed Jan 7, 2009 10:54 AM EST
      {"commentId":4702775,"authorDomain":"witchofthenorth"}

      @Oliver

      I'm not 'blaming guns' - I'm not insane.

      People buy them, load them and keep them laying around their houses.  People also promote fear and gun-culture. I blame them.

      @loveofchrist
      Children learn manners by seeing their parents model them.

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      #6.10 - Wed Jan 7, 2009 1:55 PM EST
      {"commentId":4704786,"authorDomain":"bowmantool--onnie"}

      Glinda- correct, how can children model after their parents when they don't sit down and shut up long enough to learn it.   They don't come out of the womb knowing how to act and as far as I'm concerned, kids that can't be quiet and sit still when they are out in public are learning that it is ok to disrupt others around them, and that is being instilled by bad parents.  When parents think other people  want to hear their kids, they are just being rude.  Like I said, seen and not heard.

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      #6.11 - Wed Jan 7, 2009 3:47 PM EST
      {"commentId":4709907,"authorDomain":"witchofthenorth"}

      Just keep repeating yourself huh?  So many to ignore, so little time.

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        #6.12 - Wed Jan 7, 2009 10:18 PM EST
        {"commentId":4720946,"authorDomain":"bowmantool--onnie"}

        You had a loud kid, didn't you?

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        #6.13 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 4:35 PM EST
        {"commentId":4776512,"authorDomain":"witchofthenorth"}

        You could not be more wrong.

        True story: I went to pick my son up at a birthday party when he had just started kindergarten - did not know the people having the party or most of the other kids or their parents and they weren't completely sure who mine was either.  Eventually they figured it out --- "Oh the POLITE boy".

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        #6.14 - Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:01 PM EST
        {"commentId":4789968,"authorDomain":"bowmantool--onnie"}

        Nice story. Why do you think that a quiet child is an ignored child. Most kids who are out of control in public are the ones who are being ignored and allowed to act up any where they choose. Discipline is a good thing.  It should be balanced with teaching and love.  Teaching respect for others is one of the life lessons being missed these day, wouldn't you agree.  Road rage,  beating each other up in school, verbal abuses and so on.  The kid in this article hasn't been taught any of the lessons he should be taught.  When I am surrounded by screamin, running kids in restaurants and stores, I am reminded of the lack of respect.

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          #6.15 - Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:07 AM EST
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          {"commentId":4682220,"authorDomain":"Cooper1"}

          When did the mindset of children change from playing cops and robbers to hurt my feelings your dead? Spank me and i'll call the cops.

          That would be about the same time teachers lost control in the classroom and parents started teaching their kids to not respect cops, or anybody else for that matter.

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          Reply#7 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:45 AM EST
          {"commentId":4683444,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

          How is this "world-news"?

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            Reply#8 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 11:09 AM EST
            {"commentId":4684063,"authorDomain":"zomzom"}

            Too bad that Babysitter didn't have a gun to defend himself with. Because that's the real solution--not gun control. Keeping guns away from these people would just be wrong.

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            Reply#9 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 11:46 AM EST
            {"commentId":4684552,"authorDomain":"tinylvis1"}

            You're right! That is exactly the argument we hear when someone is tragically shot... "if only the victim had been armed, none of this would have happened because the shooter would think twice knowing that their victim might be packing." (or some such nonsense). The parents should have given the babysitter a shotgun along with the list of emergency numbers and pizza money! ;-)

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            #9.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 12:12 PM EST
            {"commentId":4685255,"authorDomain":"dougdemilo"}

            zomzom - not very good at sarcasm, are you?

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              #9.2 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 12:47 PM EST
              {"commentId":4685356,"authorDomain":"zomzom"}

              D DeMilo - I dunno... I think I'm pretty funny.

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                #9.3 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 12:52 PM EST
                {"commentId":4686399,"authorDomain":"witchofthenorth"}

                I agree with you Zom Zom - at first I thought you just might be serious.  That's always a good sign.

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                #9.4 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:38 PM EST
                {"commentId":4687620,"authorDomain":"xcomunic8ed"}

                Arm the babysitters!!!

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                #9.5 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:37 PM EST
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                {"commentId":4685590,"authorDomain":"angel-face-bebe"}

                Well all I can say is that this is shocking foe me because our culture is different.We are not allowed to housed firearms let alone our kids playing with them.We are still playing make believe cops and robbers and nowadays no one here presents kids guns.4 year olds still plays with water pistols if someone brings it fom overseas which is rare,so folks all this is mind bloggling to me.

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                Reply#10 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:02 PM EST
                {"commentId":4685853,"authorDomain":"angel-face-bebe"}

                Giving this much thought,I think that now would be a good time to present to this child a new set of value for human life and arespect foe his peers. At least here the least that would have happen is that the child would have complain of injury to foot if the person didnot opologise.

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                Reply#11 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:15 PM EST
                {"commentId":4687397,"authorDomain":"bowmantool--onnie"}

                This kid obviously has had a deficit in discipline and self control being taught.   I have a feeling if a shotgun wouldn't have been available, he would have gotten a knife. 

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                  Reply#12 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:26 PM EST
                  {"commentId":4689770,"authorDomain":"leebrown-1"}

                  Dear God in heaven, what has been going on in that house that the child believed it was a remedy to get a gun and shoot someone?

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                  Reply#13 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 4:24 PM EST
                  {"commentId":4693698,"authorDomain":"AKdan"}

                  Another argument against violent video games, paintball, etc. All of these aenesthetize a person against the horrors of killing someone. We glorify violence.

                  Westendfelder--it's world news because this kind of thing is happening all over the world.

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                    Reply#14 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:08 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4694312,"authorDomain":"witchofthenorth"}

                    AKdan

                    this kind of thing is happening all over the world

                     No, because then it actually WOULDN"T be news.  I agree with the rest of your comment though.

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                    #14.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:59 PM EST
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                    {"commentId":4693731,"authorDomain":"AKdan"}

                    When did it start? I think it started when the community gave up the right to discipline kids. When I was growing up, if I did something wrong, whoever saw it, gave me what-for. And then, of course, when I got home, I discovered that person had called my parents and I got disciplined again. Raising children is a community responsibility--not solely the parents, teachers, police, or any one other entity. People turn a blind eye to wrong-doing, and then we wonder where we went wrong. Duh!

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                    Reply#15 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:12 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4711025,"authorDomain":"offmyback"}

                    well put akdan.

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