JERUSALEM — Israel dropped bombs and leaflets on Gaza on Saturday, pounding suspected rocket sites and tunnels used by Hamas militants and warning of a wider offensive despite frantic diplomacy to end the bloodshed.
Egypt hosted talks aimed at defusing the crisis, but war had the momentum on a bloody day on which more than 30 Palestinians, many of them noncombatants, were killed, according to Gaza medics. Hamas fighters launched 15 rockets at southern Israel, injuring three Israelis in the city of Ashkelon, the Israeli military said.
At hospitals, distraught relatives — men in jeans and jackets and women in black Islamic robes — sobbed and shrieked at the loss of family. Flames and smoke rose over Gaza City amid heavy fighting.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas predicted a "waterfall of blood" unless all parties adhere to a United Nations call for a cease-fire. But Israel has said the Security Council resolution passed Thursday was unworkable and Hamas, the Islamic group whose government controls Gaza but is not recognized internationally, was angry that it was not consulted.
Damascus-based Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal made a fiery speech on Arab news channel Al-Jazeera, describing the Israeli assault as a "holocaust." Still, Hamas teams were in Cairo to discuss a cease-fire proposed by Egypt.
At least 814 Palestinians, roughly half of them civilians, have died since war broke out on Dec. 27, according to Palestinian medical officials. Thirteen Israelis, including 10 soldiers, have been killed.
Weary Palestinians watched from apartment windows as thousands of leaflets fluttered from aircraft with a blunt warning: Israeli forces will step up operations against Islamic militants who have unleashed a daily barrage of rocket fire on southern Israeli towns.
"The IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) is not working against the people of Gaza but against Hamas and the terrorists only," the leaflets said in Arabic. "Stay safe by following our orders."
The leaflets urged Gaza residents not to help Hamas and to stay away from its members. There was no immediate sign of an escalation, though earlier in the day, witnesses said Israeli troops moved to within one mile of Gaza City before pulling back slightly.
Israeli defense officials say they are prepared for a third stage of their offensive, in which ground troops would push further into Gaza, but are waiting for approval from the government. Early on Sunday, Israeli tanks were heard moving near the central Gaza border as Israeli artilley pounded the area, indicating the possibility of a larger operation.
Palestinian witnesses said Israeli forces fired phosphorus shells at Khouza, a village near the border, setting a row of houses on fire. Hospital official Dr. Yusuf Abu Rish said a woman was killed and more than 100 injured, most suffering from gas inhalation and burns. Israeli military spokesman Capt. Guy Spigelman categorically dened the claims.
The Israeli military said it did not know of such an incident. Also, Hamas security officials said fierce battles were in progress early Sunday in eastern Gaza City and northern Gaza.
The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were discussing classified information, said the army also has a fourth stage planned that calls for a full reoccupation of Gaza and toppling of Hamas.
The leaflets reflected Israeli efforts to cast Hamas as the source of the conflict that has brought additional misery to Gaza's 1.4 million people, who live in poverty in the densely inhabited shard of land along the Mediterranean. Israel hopes the suffering will erode support for Hamas, which won 2006 elections and engineered a violent takeover of Gaza in June 2007, overrunning the forces of its Palestinian rival Fatah.
For now, though, the fury of the Israeli onslaught has deepened bitterness toward Israel among trapped Gaza residents. Traffic through border crossings with Egypt and Israel is heavily restricted, and many Gazans survive on international handouts or goods smuggled through tunnels that are also used by Hamas to bring in weapons.
Israel launched the offensive on Dec. 27 after years of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, and has attributed many civilian casualties in the past two weeks to Hamas's alleged use of civilian areas as hiding places and staging grounds for attacks.
On Jan. 3, Israeli ground troops moved into Gaza, but they have largely avoided deployment in built-up areas where they would be more vulnerable to hit-and-run assaults. Israel holds elections in one month, and its leaders know staunch support for the military campaign could dwindle if the forces take heavy casualties.
The 15 rockets launched at southern Israel are part of a daily ritual that has severely disrupted life for hundreds of thousands of civilians. Three Israelis were injured in the city of Ashkelon.
The Israeli military said aircraft attacked more than 40 Hamas targets including 10 rocket-launching sites, weapons-storage facilities, smuggling tunnels, an anti-aircraft missile launcher and gunmen. At least 15 militants were killed, it said.
In the day's bloodiest incident, an Israeli tank shell killed nine people in a garden outside a home in the northern Gaza town of Jebaliya, said Adham el-Hakim, administrator of Kamal Adwan hospital. The nine were from the same clan and included two children and two women.
The Israeli military, however, said its forces did not carry out attacks in that area on Saturday.
Struggling to keep peace efforts alive, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Abbas urged Israel and Hamas to agree to a truce.
After meeting Mubarak, Abbas warned there was no time to waste in ending the bloodshed in Gaza.
"If any party does not accept it (the truce), regrettably it will be the one bearing the responsibility. And if Israel doesn't want to accept, it will take the responsibility of perpetuating a waterfall of blood," Abbas said.
Hamas and Abbas's Fatah party, which dominates the West Bank, are fierce political rivals.
Hamas officials from both Gaza and Syria are also in Cairo for separate talks with Egyptian officials on a truce. Israeli officials were in Cairo earlier this week.
U.S. President George W. Bush spoke by telephone to President Abdullah Gul of Turkey, which is involved in Mideast peace efforts, about the situation in Gaza, said a spokesman for the National Security Council in Washington.
"President Bush emphasized the importance of bringing an end to rocket fire against Israel and preventing arms smuggling into Gaza as the basis for a durable cease-fire," spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, on a peace mission to the region, visited the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt and saw a fireball from a large detonation in Gaza. He felt the pressure from the blast, which caused windows to rattle.
"We are standing here while the fighting is still on back there," said Steinmeier, who later traveled to Israel. "It is right and correct to be concerned about the injured and the dead, but the European foreign ministers must do more so that words can be turned into deeds."
The U.N. estimates two-thirds of Gaza's 1.4 million people now lack electricity, and half don't have running water.
The Israeli military announced a three-hour halt to operations in Gaza on Saturday to let medics use the lull to rescue casualties and aid groups to rush through food distribution. But for the second straight day, fighting continued even during the lull.
Israel has called for the three-hour breaks in fighting for the past four days. But aid groups say it isn't enough time to do their work.
Also on Saturday, tens of thousands of people demonstrated in European cities and Lebanon, shouting protests against the Israeli offensive in Gaza.
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Barzak reported from Gaza City and Torchia from Jerusalem. Associated Press writer Frieder Reimold contributed to this report from Rafah at the Gaza-Egyptian border.
Ok, didnt they do this a week ago. The UN has called for so many truces in this part of the world that it really doesnt have any meaning anymore. Its like me trying to tell my dog to go to the store to get me something. It sounds great, but it will never happen. The UN is just trying to look like it really cares. Does anyone else care about what happens here. I dont.
I think the world is tired of terrorism, people blowing up other people for no reason, and if the Israelis can put an end to a little of it, so be it. I still don't see mass demonstrations going on from capital to capital, even in Iran, just a lot of blather.
Bettyboop, Newsvine writer, has posted an article concerning a woman who detonated herself in front of a mosque in Iraq, and murdered 38 people. Good headline, true story, people murdered in coldblood for no reason other than religious hatreds and vengence, and only two posted comments, Betty and me.
Yes, Field Marshall, people want terrorism to stop. Even in Palestine's West Bank, people go about their business as if Gaza is not helping. Surely, if they cared, wouldn't they have opened up another front. Lebanon lobs a couple of rockets into Israel, I guess they want their entire infrastructure destroyed again.
Americans commit resources to Iraq, and Afghanistan, but it is nothing more than a police action similar to Viet Nam. In Viet Nam we fought over the mastery of rubber plantations, but here was a response to over 3000 Americans murdered in an act of terrorism. The difference in the act did not cause a difference in the response.
Americans have no stomach for war, and we have no stomach to inflict the kind of damage that terrorists respect. If our behavior concerning responses to terrorism in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and India continues, we will soon see them here.
The reason there was only 2 comments about the woman suicide bomber in Iraq is because she was Muslim and they get excused for behavior like that, but let Israel defend itself them oh my goodness, Iseal is a bunch of baby killers. It's pathetic really. There was a post about the rockets that have been falling in an Israeli town for over a year and there were only 2 posts there too.
Psimon, this is exactly correct. Our supposedly Jewish run media has demonized Israel, holding this country to a standard no other country on earth is expected to attain, yet the Islamic terrorists can run amock and nothing is mentioned.
Israel has reached a point where it can no longer tolerate the kind of terrorism we, in the West, are willing to put up with so long as it does not get the kind of press it really deserves.
Genocide takes time. Israel needs time to weed out any Palestinian life so they can make new settlements.
Dismissed as silly. They would have done it in any of the previous wars in which they were invaded and fought them off, opening up for a real take over. But, did not happen then, and won't happen now.
They would have done it in any of the previous wars in which they were invaded and fought them off, opening up for a real take over.
Israel was still concerned about world opinion because they needed Europe and the US. Now that Europe has seen through the lies and the US is beginning to nothing will hold them back.
They started this all back in the early 1900s escalated after WWII by stealing more and more land , now want to finish the job.
Who the heck stole land? Israel has never invaded another country in order to seize more territory.
They have been invaded although, countless times. Each time, they have come out victorious and seized lands to expand there borders to become more definsible perparing for the next time the Arabs invaded.
Go read a history book.
Who the heck stole land?
Jewish Europeans who invade Palestine:
"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.
"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/palestinians.html?q=palestinians.html
Go read a history book.
You might want to take your own advice
The country of Israel was formed in 1948 by the United Nations. There was never a country of "Palestine".
There's these things called "History Books", they're very cool. You should go to your local library and read one.
It was part of the Ottoman Empire then part of the British Empire; however Palestinians were living there until they were forced of the land by Jewish terrorists.
Like I said, history books are cool, and educational. You haven't gotten or read one yet.
Here, I'll educate you real quick.
In 1947, the British government withdrew from commitment to the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews. The newly created United Nations approved the UN Partition Plan (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, dividing the country into two states, one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city – a corpus separatum – administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status. The Jewish community accepted the plan, but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it. On December 1, 1947 the Arab Higher Committee proclaimed a 3-day strike, and Arab bands began attacking Jewish targets. Civil war began with the Jews initially on the defensive but gradually moving into offence. The Palestinian-Arab economy collapsed and 250,000 Palestinian-Arabs fled or were expelled. On May 14, 1948, the day before the end of the British Mandate, the Jewish Agency proclaimed independence, naming the country Israel. The following day five Arab countries – Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq –invaded Israel, launching the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Morocco, Sudan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia also sent troops to assist the invaders. After a year of fighting, a ceasefire was declared and temporary borders, known as the Green Line, were established. Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Israel was admitted as a member of the United Nations on May 11, 1949. During the conflict 711,000 Arabs, according to UN estimates, or about 80% of the previous Arab population, fled the country. The fate of the Palestinian refugees today is a major point of contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
the reason why the Palestinians fled? Well, the Arab countries asked them to so that when they invaded, they can kill every man, woman, and child and give them the land the people of Israel had. Basically, the Arabs would bomb the country and level the area.
Arab countries over the years refused to acknowledge Israel's right to exist, and Arab nationalists led by Nasser called for the destruction of the state. In 1967, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan massed troops close to Israeli borders, expelled UN peacekeepers and blocked Israel's access to the Red Sea. Israel saw these actions as a casus belli for a pre-emptive strike that launched the Six-Day War, Israel achieved a decisive victory in which it captured the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Sinai Peninsula and Golan Heights The 1949 Green Line became the administrative boundary between Israel and the occupied territories. Jerusalem's boundaries were enlarged, incorporating East Jerusalem. The Jerusalem Law, passed in 1980, reaffirmed this measure and reignited international controversy over the status of Jerusalem.
The failure of the Arab states in the 1967 war led to the rise of Arab non-state actors in the conflict, most importantly the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) which was committed to what it called "armed struggle as the only way to liberate the homeland". In the late 1960s and early 1970s, Palestinian groups launched a wave of attacks against Israeli targets around the world, including a massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Summer Olympics. Israel responded with Operation Wrath of God, in which those responsible for the Munich massacre were tracked down and assassinated
On October 6, 1973, Yom Kippur, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar, the Egyptian and Syrian armies launched a surprise attack against Israel. The war ended on October 26 with Israel successfully repelling Egyptian and Syrian forces but suffering great losses.
So John you think that the Zionists were making up stuff when they talked about running the Palestinians off their land?
That they made this up?
"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979
Nothing in your post shows that the Palestinians did not live there before the Zionist invaded, and took their land.
What part of "the Palestinians were there first" keeps going over your head?
Do you need me to read this onto an MP3 for you and email it?
"the reason why the Palestinians fled? Well, the Arab countries asked them to so that when they invaded, they can kill every man, woman, and child and give them the land the people of Israel had. Basically, the Arabs would bomb the country and level the area."
Are we going to go back to borders from 2000+ years ago? Then technically you are saying the US should not exist, the Romans should control almost the known world too.
Do you need me to read this onto an MP3 for you and email it?
No you need to drop the anti Palestinian agenda and look at the real facts.
The Palestinians were there before the invasion, Zionist stole their land ( and continue to do so). Those are the facts.
Ah, and you need to drop your Terrorist support and look at the facts and read a history book.
The Jews were there way before the Palestinians. The arabs stole there lands (actually the Ottoman Empire) in 1516.
The Jews were there way before the Palestinians. The arabs stole there lands (actually the Ottoman Empire) in 1516
The facts say otherwise:
"No population remains pure over a period of thousands of years. But the chances that the Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Judaic people are much greater than the chances that you or I are its descendents. The first Zionists, up until the Arab Revolt [1936-9], knew that there had been no exiling, and that the Palestinians were descended from the inhabitants of the land. They knew that farmers don't leave until they are expelled. Even Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, the second president of the State of Israel, wrote in 1929 that, 'the vast majority of the peasant farmers do not have their origins in the Arab conquerors, but rather, before then, in the Jewish farmers who were numerous and a majority in the building of the land.'"
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966952.html
The early Zionists were the terrorists:
Lehi (IPA: ['lɛxi], Hebrew acronym for Lohamei Herut Israel, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel", לח"י - לוחמי חירות ישראל), also known as the Stern Gang, a term coined by the British[1], was an armed underground Zionist faction in Mandatory Palestine,[2] whose goal was to forcibly evict the British authorities from Palestine, allowing unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state. Initially called the National Military Organization in Israel, the name of the group was later changed to Lehi.[3]
Lehi was described as a terrorist organization[4] by the British authorities and United Nations mediator Ralph Bunche.[5] Lehi carried out the Nov 1944 assassination in Cairo of Lord Moyne along with other attacks on the British authorities and Palestinian Arabs. The newly-formed Israeli government banned the organization under an anti-terrorism law passed three days after the Sept 1948 assassination of the UN mediator Folke Bernadotte.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group)
i just don't know enough about the dynamics of the conflict, other that both sides are determined to wipe the other out. i do know that in a hundred, two hundred years ( if anyone over there is left) they will still be at it.
when you have two diametrically opposed groups, fighting over the same dried out, desert rock pile, you got problems. if these two groups have conflicting religions, and each is positively certain theirs is the one true...one, you have much bigger problems, especially if those religions make no provision for any other !!!
in other words, there will never be an end to the killing. i wish i was wrong, but the islamist terrorists are going to keep at it until...the second coming, i guess. the israelis are certain they are God's chosen, so they will not give up an inch of bombed out dirt.
and if that don't hairlip the dog, they get pissed at america if it doesn't jump in to referee each time they go at it !!!
luv,
ron
i just don't know enough about the dynamics of the conflict, other that both sides are determined to wipe the other out.
Actually, Isreal has had the ability to wipe out the Palestinians for quite some time now.They choose not to as they really do want to have peace.The extremist groups simply will not allow it to happen.
Unfortunately there are extremist on both sides of the conflict.
Okay, folks... let's step back and take a different perspective on this. Let's say that Mexico elected a government that openly stated that their primary purpose in life was to destroy the United States. They proceeded to lob rockets and mortars into California, Arizona and Texas, killing dozens or hundreds of Americans. And, since they are operating as terrorists, they don't discriminate their targets - they would actually PREFER to kill civilians; that's what 'terror' is all about. And, since they are terrorists and extreme fanatics, they have absolutely no interest in negotiations.
Now, how do you suppose the United States would react? The answer should be obvious. WE WOULD ANNHILATE THE ATTACKERS, and REMOVE the offending government from power. Now, these maggots, like all terrorists, are cowards, and hide their forces and weapons in churches, schools, businesses and civilian homes, in an attempt to use their own people as shields. This suggests that quite a number of civilians would be killed in the United States counterattack. Would we be targeting civilians? Of course not... that's not what we're all about. But in order to remove the offending disease, some collateral damage of healthy tissue is inevitable. However, once the treatment was complete, we would step in and provide medical assistance to the patient, because THAT'S what we ARE all about.
War and the resulting human suffering is abominable. However, I have a very difficult time finding sympathy for the Palestinians in this situation. They willingly elected a government that has openly sworn itself to the absolute destruction of Israel. Their government chose to attack Israel for years with rockets without any retaliation. Then, when Israel finally said enough is enough, and acted as ANY nation would to the situation, the world gets in a tither and tells Israel "You must STOP this, you bad, bad people!". Of course, Israel's response has been exactly what is expected. "Nope... too bad... this has gone on far too long, and we WILL put an end to it!".
I see anti-Israeli protests on television, with protesters carrying signs saying "STOP THE GENOCIDE". Okay... I'll agree with that... but in my mind it is the PALESTINIANS who are determined to execute genocide - Hamas openly states that it wants to kill every single Israeli!!! Now, WHO EXACTLY IS HELL-BENT ON GENOCIDE?!?!?!?
To be entirely accurate here, Israel has shown incredible restraint for the last several years. Do you think the U.S. would have waited that long before taking military action in the scenario described above? OUR response would have come in hours, not months or years.
I truly hope this situation ends quickly, and loss of life on both sides is minimized. I also think this should be a lesson learned for other countries; don't elect leadership whose primary focus is the extermination of a neighboring country's occupants. The Palestinians precipitated this entire situation when they elected Hamas. Now, they are forced to consume the bitter meal they have prepared for themselves.
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