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Love for sale, 15 percent off

Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:57 AM EST
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msnbc.com News — By Allison Linn
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— For Valentine’s Day two years ago, Jason Jones gave his fiancée a necklace from Tiffany & Co.

This year, the couple is going to the park with their 2-year-old daughter, and renting a movie on the way home. It may not be the Valentine’s Day of their dreams, but faced with a steep drop in income it’s the one the couple feels they can afford.

“She’s disappointed because girls love Valentine’s Day, but she also knows the reality of it,” Jones said.

Economic hard times are forcing many Americans to focus on love over money this Valentine’s Day, with many saying they will trade a lavish dinner out for a cozy meal at home, and expensive bouquets for cheaper greeting cards.

A recent survey from consulting firm Brand Keys found that Americans will spend an average of 15 percent less this Valentine’s Day than they did last year, marking the first such drop in years.

A separate study, conducted by BIGresearch for the National Retail Federation, found that consumers plan to spend an average of $102.50 on Valentine’s Day this year, down from $122.98 last year.

Overall, the International Council of Shopping Centers is expecting U.S. chain store sales to be down 1 to 2 percent in February, as compared to the same period last year.

A drop in Valentine’s Day sales would mark yet another blow to retailers who are still reeling from a weak winter holiday season, in which nervous consumers tightened their belts because of the recession.
The Valentine's Day survey demonstrates that economic uncertainty continues, said Robert Passikoff, the founder of Brand Keys.

“The national psyche is a bunker mentality,” Passikoff said.

The move to a more frugal celebration also comes after eight years during which Valentine’s Day spending grew substantially, as Americans branched out from just giving flowers to that one special person to exchanging presents with family, friends and even officemates.

“Valentine’s Day was like this nothing kind of holiday — you know, grandparents and school kids did it,” Passikoff said.

But starting around 2000, he said, it began to grow into a bigger holiday, with gifts all around.

“It was not just for your sweetheart anymore,” he said.

Passikoff expects people to continue celebrating Valentine’s Day with family and friends. But he thinks more people will celebrate more frugally, perhaps sending a card instead of giving a gift card.

John McHugh, a self-employed financial planner, used to regularly spend about $300 sending Valentine’s Day flowers to his daughters and granddaughters, and treating his wife to a special dinner.

This year, he’s opting to send only cards.

McHugh is cutting back in part because he’s worried that business could drop off in the coming months. It’s also because, at age 67, he wants to make sure he’s got enough money for his later years.

Like many Americans, the Richmond, Va., resident doesn’t expect to go back to the days of more lavish spending anytime soon.

“From our standpoint it’s going to be a little more of a permanent adjustment,” he said.

A home-cooked meal
Harry Balzer, a vice president with NPD Group and an expert on national food trends, won’t be surprised if more men end up cooking for their significant others this year, instead of taking them out to dinner, following a trend in that direction.

Still, Balzer said that in general Americans continue to eat out in the down economy. The change has been that they may be choosing cheaper restaurants or opting to eat out for breakfast instead of dinner because it’s a less costly meal.

David McDonnell still plans to take his wife out to their favorite steakhouse this Valentine’s Day. But instead of ordering a pricey bottle of wine and two desserts, the couple will sip tea and split one dessert, in an effort to keep the bill under $100.

“We’ll be mindful as we go through the menu,” he said.

This year, McDonnell, 47, also is sending his wife roses on Feb. 12 instead of Feb. 14 and will use a less costly flower company, saving a total of about $65.

A few years back, McDonnell and his wife, who live in Sparks, Nev., might have planned a trip to Disneyland or a romantic getaway to the coast for Valentine’s Day.

“Price was not an issue,” he said. “We didn’t go crazy, but we did something significant.”

But things started to change last year when McDonnell, who at the time sold power sports equipment, started to see business drop off significantly. His income fell by about 40 percent last year, and a few months ago he was laid off.

Now, McDonnell is hoping to start a new career as a health insurance salesman, on the theory that the recent job losses will leave more people looking for independent health insurance. Meanwhile, he’s thankful his wife’s job appears to be secure.

“It’s been a lifesaver,” he said. 

Jones, the man who two years ago splurged on a necklace for Valentine’s Day, also has seen his circumstances change dramatically.

Until a year and a half ago, the 28-year-old said he was earning $40,000 a year as a sales manager for an alarm company. He was let go from that job but soon landed another job, making $30,000 a year working for a call center company.

Jones, who lives in Las Cruces, N.M., was laid off from that job as well, and now he’s working as a customer relations representative, earning just $8.08 an hour — less than half what he once made.

Luckily, Jones said his fiancee’s job as a paralegal is secure. Still, Jones, who was recently treated for skin cancer, has had to turn to state aid to keep up with food and child care costs. It’s something he always vowed he would never do after watching his mother struggle as a single parent raising three kids. But now, as a parent himself, he felt he had no choice.

“It sounds like a really sad story, but it’s not,” he said during a recent break from work. “We’re able to make it day-to-day, but it’s not like it used to be. Valentine’s Day is a joke because it’s a luxury, you know?”

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Roland-320510

Maybe America is finally tired of the trite Hallmark holidays. Hurrah!

Retailers have tried to commercialize everything. It used to be Christmas lights, and then Halloween lights, but we now see Valentine's Day lights, St. Patrick's Day lights and even Easter decorations and lights. They invented "Sweetest Day" and Grandparents Day and let's not forget Bosses Day and Secretary's Day. Christmas season starts just about right after Labor Day, and I'm surprised that Thanksgiving hasn't been more commercialized, although all that travel is part of it, and in the end, the holiday is a meal with family and doesn't particularly lend itself to providing an opportunity to sell something else, although "Black Friday" is quickly detracting from the occasion.

Personally, I am glad that consumption is contracting. Yes it hurts retailers, but so what. Look at the mess all the overspending got us into. I'll take frugality and a return to simplier pleasures over another commercialized (and largely) made up holiday anyday.

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:13 AM EST
Andyb-300124

Amen to that!

Any 'holiday' that requires financial forecasting is not a true holiday.

I suspect that most people would rather have a little more affection and courtesy given to them all year through than a couple of required consumption feast days every couple of months.

Tell your special someone that you love them each day and see if your and their life improves along the way.

  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:51 PM EST
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marshas19

Or do what most of America is doing - use coupons to get more for your money. Have a Valpak Valentine's Day by checking out coupons in your area. Save on champagne at liquor stores, flowers at floral shops, day spas, bakeries, restaurants, Omaha Steaks and more.

    Reply#2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:30 AM EST
    Ruth-380103

    For Sweet Pete's sake, folks! Why does anyone need to buy a fancy expensive necklace to say I love you. Even more important, what kind of person is disappointed if they get a hand made romantic card and a home cooked meal over expensive doodads? The one just says I had 15 minutes and money while the second says I took the time to do something personally for you.

    My husband and I can afford the fancy dinner, the jewelry, flowers, etc. We are making each other cards on Wednesday and having a romantic dinner at home, complete with candles, music and dancing for Valentine's Day. We will work together to fix the dinner. No, we are not newly weds - we are celebrating our 40th anniversary this year.

    BTW - our son who is in his thirties is writing a poem for his young lady to be given to her with a single carnation over a special romantic meal. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it?

    Give effort and love for Valentine's Day and you will get rommance. Give money and you get sex.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:14 AM EST
    hometowngirl-510510

    aww common, give romance and thought you get sex as well lol

    • 2 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:05 PM EST
    Javajim

    Who's to say romance and sex are mutually exclusive? Joking, joking! My wife and I have known each other since 1979, and within five minutes, I was in love. We've been married for 28 years, and we've never celebrated Valentine's Day with anything more than a glass of wine and an evening of cuddling on the sofa. She says my heart is her anchor, and her arms will forever be my refuge! I make it my life's mission to let her know how much she means to me each and every day!

    • 3 votes
    #3.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:03 PM EST
    Repo Girl

    Because she cant show of a home cooked meal to her friends, and people on the street wont see the "Tiffany" tag around her neck (like a commercial choke collar)

    • 1 vote
    #3.3 - Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:22 PM EST
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    Paduki

    Reading the posts before me, thank goodness for the practical responses from you. It's time the pendulum of common sense swings back toward center. Whether you can afford to be indulgent or not, expensive gifts from stores do not speak as loudly as gifts you put your own effort into. The latter really says I love you - not just I took a few minutes and $$ to remember you.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:57 AM EST
    Jeff-397806

    I gave my mother valentines cards I got off the Internet. They printed in black and white. I colorized them with colored pencils. My mother died and looking through her possessions were a stack of colorized valentine cards. She kept no Hallmark but she kept everything that was handmade.

    • 2 votes
    #4.1 - Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:02 PM EST
    Reply
    Greg-281912

    Another holiday bites the dust.

      Reply#5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:21 AM EST
      hope51

      This spending frenzy of giving gifts for holidays has taken such deep root in this society that it is a welcomed thing to see it loosing its power over the people. I am from an European country. Ever since I came from oversea couple decades ago, I have seen this habit wrecking people's ability to just enjoy the holidays in simple, meaningful ways with their loved ones. I believe Americans have become victims of masterminded corporate propaganda, which only serves them by making profits to them. I HATE this part of capitalism, and it needs to be exposed for what it is: a greedy selfserving vulture.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST
      mdmiriam

      I agree with hope on this one.

      • 3 votes
      #6.1 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:44 AM EST
      Javajim

      Of course you do, communist (capitalization purposely omitted)!

        #6.2 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:25 PM EST
        mdmiriam

        hi there java.

        stalk, stalk away. (flutters eyelashes**)

        • 1 vote
        #6.3 - Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:35 AM EST
        hope51

        hey java, capitalism saturated with greed is no better, just another side of the coin!. So really, who has anything to brag about?

        • 1 vote
        #6.4 - Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:12 PM EST
        Reply
        chris-335678

        Any woman disappointed because she canot get a fancy expensive googah for Valentines day isn't a woman worth having.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#7 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:45 PM EST
        hometowngirl-510510

        exaclty, plus a necklace from tiffanys (example) on valentines day has got to be the most cliche thing ever, i prefer valentines day to simply show he has thought of me and that he loves me, be it dinner, in house or out, a thoughtful card, though its whats written in it that matters, or just renting a movie and being together.

        • 2 votes
        #7.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:21 PM EST
        Miranda-787542

        I think it's hilarious that he remarks that she's going to be disappointed this year with the simplicity of a movie and a day with family.

        Jason Jones picked himself a winner.

        • 3 votes
        #7.2 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:04 AM EST
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        Amber-339729

        i, for one, am happy to see valentines day bite it. i'm only 21, and a girl to boot, and ive hated valentines day with a burning passion for several years now, and i never did like it before. mostly because i had boyfriends who felt they had to spend a fortune to show me they loved me.

        three years ago, "dinner" was actually late lunch at a very bad chinese buffet. the food had been under the lamps for about 3 hours. i got food poisoning.

        two years ago, the doofus let the dozen stargazer lillies sit out in -25 degree weather and die, and then still gave the dead, brown flowers to me, as well as a bit heart box of chocolates that had gone stale and melted.

        last year, my boyfriend and i got into a fight over where we wanted to live, and how he thought i should be ok with ponying up more money trhan i really had to pay for a place that was too expensive.

        so yeah. good riddance. i hope this one fades.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#8 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:46 PM EST
        spindage

        Did anyone else notice how the story began?  Two years ago they were engaged and this year they're taking their two-year old to the park.  Maybe they got married for the wrong reasons.  That would certainly explain why they seem to need shallow, materialistic expressions at Valentines Day as opposed to the true expressions of love suggested by other readers.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#9 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:09 PM EST
        Sigurd Rohwedder

        I don't need a holiday to buy my wife gifts. I bring them to her all the time- little things, things she likes-- "just for nice."

        Of course I always get her a card and a small gift on Valentines day.

        Going on our 37th year of marriage.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#10 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:28 PM EST
        hometowngirl-510510

        i can see why your on your 37th year :)

        • 1 vote
        #10.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:23 PM EST
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        Steve Papa

        A good Valentines Day can be had with a couple steaks, a couple pounds of crab legs, a bubble bath and some good jams in the background. You cant go wrong with Marvin Gaye, Al Green, Roxy Music's "Avalon" or Clarence Clemmons "Peacemaker" to name a few. Fifty dollars or less can make memories that last a lifetime.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#11 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:39 PM EST
        mdmiriam

        It's nuthin without Barry White.

        • 1 vote
        #11.1 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:47 AM EST
        Javajim

        And you're nothing at all, a**h*le!

        • 1 vote
        #11.2 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:27 PM EST
        mdmiriam

        java,

        I do believe you are stalking me. I'm flattered.

        But it wasn't nice of you to call me the A word. I wasn't responding to you at all. And you say you are not a "hater." tsk tsk.

        • 2 votes
        #11.3 - Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:32 AM EST
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        Andrea M.

        I'm sorry to see so much cynicism regarding this holiday. To those who complain that this holiday is too commercialized, do you feel the same way about Christmas, the most commercialized holiday ever? There is nothing wrong with going the extra mile to bestow some lavishness on your loved one on this special day. And yes, love should be expressed year-round, but this is the one holiday that truly celebrates romance. Happy Valentine's Day to all :).

        • 1 vote
        Reply#12 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:13 PM EST
        Andyb-300124

        I think Andrea is looking for some bling...

        • 1 vote
        #12.1 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:55 PM EST
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        JPF-414693

        Isn't it enough to have someone to love, someone who loves you, and to appreciate the beauty of your relationship? The whole value of Valentine's Day is as a special expression of love and romance. Remember how fortunate you are simply to have one another. Why worry about spending a lot of money, or adding yet more stuff and clutter?

        • 3 votes
        Reply#13 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:11 AM EST
        mdmiriam

        The west is preoccupied with celebrating something, anything, especially in the United states.

        JAN) New Years Day**Martin Luther King Day--celebrated on a Monday to make for 3 day weekend, (banks and schools closed) Big shopping day. SUPERBOWL Sunday, BIG BUSINESS for KFC take out and Pizzerias everywhere, not to mention Supermarkets empty out their shelves of anything fit for a party.

        ________________

        FEB) Lincoln's Birthday**Washington's Birthday** Presidents day (actual birthdates were changed to Monday--3 day weekend (banks and schools closed), Big shopping day.
        St Valentine's Day--BIG BUSINESS day for flowers and candy and greetiing cards and lingere SALES. Don't forget the perfume and jewelry.

        _________________________

        MARCH) St. Patrick's Day, The whole country turns green.
        Can't keep enough corned beef and cabbage on the store shelves--BIG BUSINESS.

        _________________________

        APRIL) Easter and Passover, BIG BUSINESS for greeting cards, the candy and Easter bonnet sales. Can't keep enough eggs in the dairy cases in the supermarkets. Forget about the HAM industry.

        ________________________

        MAY) Time to THINK OF MOM. Just the opposite of Islam where we cherish our mothers everyday, the WEST sets ONE day to tell Mom you love her with flowers and candy and perfume and a little trinket from the jewelers. Don't forget about the Hallmark cards--BIG BUSINESS.
        Also, in May, a day was set to remember the war veterans, called MEMORIAL DAY (banks and schools closed). Now it has turned into a "START OF THE BARBEQUE SEASON." This is the time that you see all the ads for gas BBQ grills, backyard picnic tables and picnic stuff for your cookout. Don't forget the MEAT industry--BIG BUSINESS.

        _______________________

        JUNE) Time to REMEMBER DAD. (see above as for Mom, but switch to ties, shirts, cologne, set of tools, etc.)-BIG BUSINESS. Also graduation time and prom time--RENT A TUXEDO BUSINESS does great.

        _______________________

        JULY) INDEPENCE DAY! Nothing more to say. (see above as per Memorial Day...but a little bigger--BIG BUSINESS.

        ________________

        AUGUST) Only month where the month takes a holiday. BIG BUSINESS for airconditioners and backyard pools and swimsuit sales. Actually, this month has become known as the "BACK TO SCHOOL SALE" Month.

        _________________________

        SEPT) Labor Day (Monday, banks and schools closed). Lost all meaning but it has become another Memorial Day and Independence Day giving boost to the meat and Pepsi and potato chip industries.
        Also Sept 9 has become a day to REMEMBER GRANDPARENTS, as if they shouldn't be looked upon as Islam looks upon them. But Mr. Hallmark says they should have their own DAY.

        ____________________________

        OCT) Columbus Day(Monday, banks and schools closed)--Big advertisements for "Columbus Day Sales"
        HALLOWEEN-'DEVIL'S HOLIDAY-CELEBRATED with frivolity and many masquerade parties, HUGE CANDY BUSINESS.

        ___________________

        NOV) Veteran's Day (Monday, banks and schools closed) It pretty much doesn't mean anything but "VETERAN'S DAY SALES" Then there is THAT ONE DAY, that the non-Muslims in America set aside to THANK GOD--"THANKSGIVING DAY." Once again, the supermarkets are the winners along with the turkey and sweet potato and pumpkin pie industries.

        _______________________

        DEC 25) AHH! A ficticious day set aside to mark the BD of the Christians' God. But EVEN IF it were the true day of his birth, he's turning every shade of blue at the thought of how it is being CELEBRATED. All of these terms are synonomous with XMAS- ----
        "Xmasshopping",--- "Xmas sales" ---
        "(?)shopping days til Xmas"--- "your Xmas store" --"
        Last minute Xmas shopping"--- "return your Xmas gifts at this counter"---
        "half off all Xmas items"

        • 2 votes
        Reply#14 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:35 AM EST
        JPF-414693

        This is a terribly superficial and biased view, and does no justice to the days, their significance, or their true celebration.

        • 1 vote
        #14.1 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:53 AM EST
        Javajim

        JPF, this "person" is nothing more than a troll spewing its vitrol and venom for the sole purpose of controversy. That's right, troll-you've been outed!

        • 1 vote
        #14.2 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:39 AM EST
        geronimo34Deleted
        Javajim

        I have to agree with you on that last paragraph, Geronimo, with a slight qualification. I pamper my wife on a daily basis 1)simply because I love her, and 2)because, God love her, she found something lovable in me! Only she and God know what that something is, but I thank Him for it each and every day!

        • 1 vote
        #14.4 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:09 PM EST
        Andyb-300124

        'Can't keep enough corned beef and cabbage on the store shelves', or in my stomach!

        • 1 vote
        #14.5 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:57 PM EST
        mdmiriam

        javajim,

        Your Islam hatred shows thru very clearly. I am not a troll any more than you or any other poster here are.

        Just by your mean spirited comment that I am a "troll" reflects that you want to OWN this place and control what is posted.

        I posted facts. You can deny til you are blue in the face too but IT'S THE TRUTH. Each and every month of the year is dedicated to the almighty Western God, which is the DOLLAR. Your holidays are so commercialized. Truth hurts, doesn't it?

        Here's another ploy by your administration and government, and the conglomerates and big sh*ts who run this country--" Keep them occupied with all these things and events and they won't notice what we are doing to the world and how we are screwing them and ripping them off."

        Don't forget the salsa for your "superbowl" party. And soda and beer are on SALE.

        And oh, happy groundHOG DAY.

        • 2 votes
        #14.6 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:19 PM EST
        mdmiriam

        outed, I've been outed???

        Call it controversy, or you can call it like it is. What do giant plastic candy canes and santa's reindeer on the front lawn have to do with the birth of Jesus (peace and blessings be upon him)?

        In my neighborhood, it is not unusual for the electricity bill to come for thousands of dollars for the month of December alone with the amount spent on lighting the front lawn of a many people.

        One guy spent close to $35,000, on decorations alone. Can you imagine what Jesus would say if he passed by those houses TODAY, and saw such a waste of money that could have been better spent to FEED THE MANY IN THE WORLD WHO HAVE NO FOOD TO EAT??

        • 1 vote
        #14.7 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:29 PM EST
        Javajim

        First, your assertion that I hate Muslims is "clearly" erroneous. I hate no one for what they are or what they believe. I hate no one, period!

        Second, exactly what "facts" did you post? What you DID post sounds like the ramblings of a deranged maniac, foamind at the mouth, with a bomb strapped to its back!

        Third, your ASSumption that I have any interest in football is comical. I don't even know who played, much less who won!

        Fourth, your reference to Jesus is laughable, considering your own obvious religeous affiliation. It's amazing that people like you can condemn Christianity as a false religeon and then attempt to throw its very Symbol in someone's face! You can't have it both ways...

        Fifth, go back to your bomb-making, and here's hoping you cross a wire...

        • 1 vote
        #14.8 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:26 PM EST
        mdmiriam

        you are a hater, java. You show your prejudice in almost every post of yours against Islam. But we do know something else about you tho. You are barely making it in this tough economy but you still find the means to put food on the table for your dogs and cats to climb upon and slobber and lick up. How many cats do you have there in that modest house of yours?

        • 2 votes
        #14.9 - Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:28 AM EST
        Repo Girl

        I agree with Miriam on some of the observations she made as far as the ridiculous level of commercial push we as a society receive from retailers. Although I think you're both wrong on the religious argument. For you both claim to follow a god that teaches nothing but love and respect yet you argue like cain and able

          #14.10 - Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:39 PM EST
          Reply
          Miranda-787542

          My fiancee is in his 12th month of a 15-month deployment in Kandahar. What I wouldn't give for $10 worth of Chinese takeaway Saturday night :(

          • 3 votes
          Reply#15 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:06 AM EST
          Javajim

          Honey, I wish I could take his place there for just one night, so you and he could have yours together! Try to take refuge inthe fact that he's fighting the good fight, and so are you, luv!

          • 2 votes
          #15.1 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:45 PM EST
          Miranda-787542

          Thanks, Java :)

            #15.2 - Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:32 AM EST
            Reply
            huerfano

            I call Jason Jones' claim that he can't afford to buy his girlfriend and mother of his child anything for Valentine's Day bogus. How much can a marriage license cost? And about the skin cancer? Maybe she could get him a hat.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#16 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:38 AM EST
            Johnny92078

            I'm making a card for 1 hour free massage and grabbing some flowers from my neighbors yard around the corner.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#17 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:29 PM EST
            hope51

            Hey, folks, it may be that Jason Jones and his girlfriend were fictional characters and the story payed by Tiffany's for using their store as an example. The suggestion has a power over (American) public's minds.... But I've got an great idea! Any person craving, wanting and expecting such expensive gifts needs to go to a boot camp where they be surviving in dyer conditiions and making it on bare minimum, to make them see what's like for masses of hardship stricken people of this country. By the way, the corporate mafia that has robed the people of this country needs the same dose of it, except much worse!

            • 1 vote
            Reply#18 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:55 AM EST
            2late2matter

            Hate to just jump into the adult-bashings between [we] grown ups, but there are some expressed tones in reply to comments that are uncalled for.

            I can speak from the heart for Jason Jones that the most important concern he had this Valentines Day was to simply BE THERE for his wife and child; that surviving skin cancers (basal cell or melanomas) expends alot of mental and physical energy. The symbolic gifts, flowers, meals and cards can never replace the love and devotion this person has in giving family an 'everything' which at this point is life and existence.

              #18.1 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:10 PM EST
              Reply
              2late2matter

              ...and Miranda-787542 speaks from her heart instead of mouth in longing for her loved one in dangers way. Next Valentine's Day will be here soon enough - with the two of you together.

                Reply#19 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:15 PM EST
                cflor

                Why is it always the man who's expected to do the romantic thing/spend money on Valentine's Day? Most of them work darned hard, do their best to be a good partner, and I think they should be a little pampered and appreciated on that special day. Of course, I like a word of appreciation, but I don't forget that I'm not the only one who is trying hard.

                  Reply#20 - Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:26 PM EST
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