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SI cover girl Refaeli nudges her swimsuit south

Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:18 AM EST
us-news, fashion, fea, sports-illustrated, bar-refaeli, sports-illustrated-swimsuit
Samantha Critchell, AP Fashion Writer

This undated image released by Sports Illustrated/Raphael Mazzucco, shows model Bar Refaeli on the cover of the Feb. 14, 2009 issue of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit, on sale now. (AP Photo/Sports Illustrated, Raphael Mazzucco)

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NEW YORK — The world knows a lot more about Bar Refaeli today than it did yesterday, including where her tiny tan line falls.

Sports Illustrated Swimsuit unveiled the 23-year-old Israeli, who has been romantically linked to Leonardo DiCaprio, as a first-time cover girl on Tuesday.

This gig, more than top fashion or entertainment magazines, can be career-altering as it puts a model's face (not to mention, her fantastically toned body) in front of millions of eyeballs, appealing to both men and women, sports fans and fashionistas.

It's the cover that matters most, says SI group editor Terry McDonell, but each model — 19 for this issue — gets an equal shot at the cover. Refaeli wears a string bikini by Missoni — and the strings on the bikini bottom are being tugged south.

"The cover has to reflect the athleticism and sexiness of the culture. This photo is modern, her hair and swimsuit look natural. You see her freckles. Her body is amazing and she looks intelligent," McDonell said.

It's also purposeful, he noted, that the models have healthy, sometimes curvy, figures. "A skinny waif won't work here."

McDonell, along with Swimsuit editor Diane Smith and SI creative director Steve Hoffman, sifted through 90,000 photos this year. In consumer testing, it's inevitable that the raciest one is the favorite, but that's not the one that lands on the front. "There are marketplace considerations," McDonell explained. "I want to be at the front of the store, not the back."

Refaeli told The Associated Press that she had the feeling that this particular shot of her in the water on Canouan Island in the Grenadines was her chance to be on the front.

"This is the one I felt the most comfortable with," said Refaeli, who twice before was featured on the inside pages of the magazine. "You have the beach, blue water and a body. That's it. I liked that the top of the suit was on."

You can be sexy without revealing too much skin, said veteran supermodel Cheryl Tiegs, who first appeared on the Swimsuit issue cover in 1970 — and then again in 1975 and 1983.

That shot happened at the end of a full day shooting in Hawaii, and she was cold. Someone gave her long-sleeve top to warm her up and when the photographer asked her to take it off, Tiegs refused — and she wouldn't take off her sunglasses either, she recalled. That photo, she said, really captured a moment, though.

"I remember walking by the newsstand and seeing I was on the cover and picking up a copy or two. That was the celebration then. ... But I'm still signing covers for fans," Tiegs said.

SI's swimsuit issue began in 1964, when February marked the low point of the sports seasons. The NFL ended in December, there were no national televised hockey games and the NBA had only a half-dozen teams. After putting safe-driving tips and dog shows on the cover, SI decided to put an attractive female on the cover and call it a "skin-diving story," recalls Smith.

It was popular from the start, but Smith thinks it was Tiegs' cover that made it a phenomenon. However, it was Kathy Ireland in a white strapless bikini in 1989 that remains the best-selling cover.

"I've done many, many, many different covers in the fashion world ... but never had as big a splash as Sports Illustrated," said Heidi Klum, the cover model in 1998. "I went to `(The Tonight Show with Jay) Leno,' the morning shows in New York and LA — it was a huge thing — suddenly I became a household name," she said.

But more than the fame, Klum said she appreciates from SI the professionalism shown to a relatively untested model wearing next to nothing. "I had wanted it to be so good. I'd arch so hard ... but they'd say, `Look sexy with your eyes. Don't overpose. Be yourself and have fun.'"

There's a balance between wholesome and sexy the editors are always straddling, without ever being sleazy, Hoffman said.

The magazine spends an average of three days shooting each model, each with an average wake-up call of 4:30 a.m. because the light is best at dawn, and have about 10,000 bathing suits to choose from.

And even with the outfits so small, SI spends an average of $2,000 in overweight baggage fees per location.

"The logistics are horrifying ... but the Swimsuit issue is probably the healthiest of all the Sports Illustrated franchises, and it's good to be with things that work, especially these days," said McDonell.

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gordy327

Leo DiCaprio is the luckiest guy on the planet, except for maybe Hugh Hefner.

  • 5 votes
#1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:37 AM EST
Bluekilgoretrout

No, he is still Leonardo DiCaprio.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:17 AM EST
USA4Him

My 15 year old son wil definitely want this issue of SI!...lol

He has last years calendar still hung up in his bedroom.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:45 AM EST
Lo2013

Not for nothing, but I seriously can't believe this is the Top Story on the vine....

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:07 AM EST
Independent Ed

Is there anything that sells better than sex?

Hmm! That's not exactly how I meant that to sound.

    #1.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:12 AM EST
    Southern Bell

    You know I am sick and tired of Sports Illustrated using my body to pose with these younger women's faces on there. I have threatened to sue and to no avail they are still using my body on their cover!!!

    OH wait, thats not my body I don't need airbrushing and I have more hips than she does, nevermind!!

    • 14 votes
    #1.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:33 AM EST
    Lo2013

    Hey man, I'm a chick and I can honestly say this chick is smokin hot, no issues with the picture, I'm just surprised it's the top story, given everything else going on. Personally, I dug the koala story better :o)

    • 3 votes
    #1.6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:27 PM EST
    rickace

    Leo DiCaprio is the luckiest guy on the planet, except for maybe Hugh Hefner.

    His IMDB bio doesn't mention her at all. He probably played hide the salami with her once or twice for the score. Hey, can ya blame him?

    • 3 votes
    #1.7 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:52 PM EST
    Bluekilgoretrout

    If you think the cover is Hot...check out this video of the photo shoot on TMZ.

    http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=6d91b86d-1b16-43a6-a408-7ced47a3e416

    • 3 votes
    #1.8 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:52 PM EST
    Simplistic Reality

    *whistles* at SI photo. >:)

    • 2 votes
    #1.9 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:28 PM EST
    jbdaad

    If you think the cover is Hot...check out this video of the photo shoot on TMZ.

    Nice. Real life + sand + sex = ow

    • 3 votes
    #1.10 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:38 PM EST
    PalmettoArmadillo

    Send her to Egypt to talk to Hamas, maybe she can help get a deal worked out. I'd be more interested in hearing what Bar Rafaeli had to say than Tzipi Livni.

    • 4 votes
    #1.11 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:54 PM EST
    Roxanne2Sweet

    WhatTheFrench!!??

    How come this made top story on the Vine??

    Where's my swimsuit pic...

    ... i might as well avatar it...

    • 3 votes
    #1.12 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:15 PM EST
    Bluekilgoretrout

    The fishnet's a nice touch, Roxanne!

    • 3 votes
    #1.13 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:52 PM EST
    Ire

    " ... and she looks intelligent.."

    My VERY first thought...

    • 2 votes
    #1.14 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:34 PM EST
    Simplistic Reality

    How come this made top story on the Vine??

    Because sex sells... even on Newsvine sometimes. haha.

    • 1 vote
    #1.15 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:40 AM EST
    zaphrod

    i do believe we have a winner: the new queen of the douchebags...

      #1.16 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:54 AM EST
      dems fightin words

      Leo aint man enough for that stuff. She'll find that out I'm sure.

      • 1 vote
      #1.17 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:55 AM EST
      Roxanne2Sweet

      Because sex sells

      sorry SR, better you stick with Palin; she's alot more simplistic (easier) & cheaper.

      :)

      • 2 votes
      #1.18 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:21 AM EST
      alanwillingham

      rickace - Leo DiCaprio... probably played hide the salami with her once or twice for the score. Hey, can ya blame him?

      Hey rick,

      Just curious...

      ...has anyone ever found the salami after it was hidden?

      (and if so, what would you do with it?)

      • 2 votes
      #1.19 - Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:51 AM EST
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      Tappy McWidestance

      If I was the SI art director I would have been more worried about retouching the tonal variations on her face. Whoever did the color correction should be fired. Other than that, nice cover.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:42 AM EST
      Independent Ed

      Not having seen the actual cover it's difficult to say if the tonal variations are in the photo or a product of the conversion to RGB and jpeg for the internet. Additionally, most computer monitors are not color balanced.

      I'll reserve judgement until I see the magazine.

      • 3 votes
      #2.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:38 AM EST
      oneburn

      i think the face is ok when you consider the tan line around her neck. leo must have her on a collar lol

      • 2 votes
      #2.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:49 PM EST
      Reply
      Jimster

      Now that's what I call a stimulus package !!

      • 9 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:43 AM EST
      Andy the giant

      yep! its spring.

        #3.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:53 AM EST
        boneclinkz

        I've really been enjoying the political puns of late, so:

        I'd like to inject some liquidity into her private sector.

        • 7 votes
        #3.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:55 AM EST
        Jason-632265

        It definately stimulated my package!

        • 2 votes
        #3.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:07 AM EST
        Reply
        waynef415

        Ohhh yessss....

        • 1 vote
        Reply#4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:56 AM EST
        onematt4youx4

        DAMN!!!!! I can't stop drooling.

        Israeli-born Refaeli

        Stop bombing israel, STOP NOW!!!

        • 1 vote
        Reply#5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:03 AM EST
        Bar Fly

        nice, i'm picking up my copy today.

          Reply#6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:07 AM EST
          krock-737246

          Boing.....

          • 1 vote
          Reply#7 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:07 AM EST
          liberalfreedomfighter

          And here I thought I didn't like sports...

            Reply#8 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:08 AM EST
            * The Dead Head *

            Way too much bikini..........................[smiling]...............

            • 2 votes
            Reply#9 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:10 AM EST
            rickace

            I'll take Sexy Sluts for $300 Alex.

            The answer is ...

            Bar Refaeli made headlines by teasing the readers of this magazine with her pussy.

            • 4 votes
            #10 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:23 AM EST
            boneclinkz

            We men, we are, somewhat easy to manipulate.

              #10.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:37 AM EST
              Jason-632265

              I could live solely on beer and p&$$y!

                #10.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:42 AM EST
                Csp

                We men, we are, somewhat easy to manipulate.

                This kind of manipulation i can tolerate. :)

                • 1 vote
                #10.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:31 PM EST
                ILoveAmerica59

                #10.

                I'll take Sexy Sluts for $300 Alex.

                Dude, you seem jealous. Or misogynistic. Or maybe you are just a Israel hating liberal? Why else would you call such a beautiful creation of God a slut?? Jeez!!

                10.3 said it the best! This kind of manipulation any red-blooded male can and should be able to tolerate.

                  #10.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST
                  rickace

                  ILoveAmerica59

                  Dude, you seem jealous.

                  Nope. I'm a smart guy and I like smart, modest women. Gauging from her bio this one doesn't seem to have much between her ears.

                  Or misogynistic.

                  Wrong again.

                  Or maybe you are just a Israel hating liberal?

                  I'm a conservative with many Jewish friends and I'm all for an alliance between our nation and Israel.

                  Why else would you call such a beautiful creation of God a slut?? Jeez!!

                  Ummm, because she's acting like one?

                  BTW the proof that Obama hates kittens is funny.

                  • 4 votes
                  #10.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:10 PM EST
                  ILoveAmerica59

                  Nope. I'm a smart guy and I like smart, modest women. Gauging from her bio this one doesn't seem to have much between her ears.

                  They didn't publish any bio here. So how do you know? Or is it just a generalization? How do you know she ain't smart? Or are you just a liberal elite who likes to look down upon the less-blessed amongst us?


                  Why else would you call such a beautiful creation of God a slut?? Jeez!!

                  Ummm, because she's acting like one?

                  What do you mean? All she is doing is posing. The rest is in your mind. You can look at her as a slut or just a beautiful creation of God. It's your mind that is corrupt.

                  At least she is making millions of men happy. How many women have you made happy??


                  BTW the proof that Obama hates kittens is funny.

                  Thanks.

                  • 2 votes
                  #10.6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:59 PM EST
                  jbdaad

                  ILoveAmerica59

                  Well said.

                  To each their own.

                    #10.7 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:10 PM EST
                    rickace

                    ILoveAmerica59

                    They didn't publish any bio here. So how do you know?

                    Wikipedia and IMDB.

                    Or are you just a liberal elite who likes to look down upon the less-blessed amongst us?

                    Already answered. See #10.5.

                    At least she is making millions of men happy. How many women have you made happy??

                    Men who like to jack off to photographs or gaze dreamily the picture of at a woman much hotter that the ones they're dating or married to perhaps. I make women happy with flowers and an enjoyable time in bed.

                    It's your mind that is corrupt.

                    What an arrogant thing to say. You know nothing about my mind, and you can't infer anything from my stated opinion.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.8 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:13 PM EST
                    ILoveAmerica59

                    Wikipedia and IMDB

                    I'm sorry but I don't see anywhere on those sites where it says that she is not smart. You just made it up. Why? Probably because you're jealous?

                    What an arrogant thing to say. You know nothing about my mind, and you can't infer anything from my stated opinion.

                    Well, for someone claiming to be so pure, why did you click on this link? Did you want to educate yourself on how far south she nudged her swimsuit? Ya know, like we all like to read Playboy to read the informative articles, hehehe :)

                    Most anyone who clicked on it so they could see the pics. Anyone who denies that is just a lying prude.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.9 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:03 PM EST
                    Blizzy

                    Geez rick you can't help but be controversial can you? Seems like you're stirring the pot hoping some talk radio station is scouting the vine for the Limbaugh of tomorrow.

                    She's not on the cover of Popular Mechanics...she's on the cover of SI.

                    Get a grip..

                    • 4 votes
                    #10.10 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:02 PM EST
                    rickace

                    ILoveAmerica59

                    I'm sorry but I don't see anywhere on those sites where it says that she is not smart.

                    Correct. I was merely drawing a conclusion based upon the lack of evidence that she had done anything that required critical thinking.

                    Probably because you're jealous?

                    Jealous of what? Her tits? I'm a guy. I'd look bizarre with big tits.

                    Well, for someone claiming to be so pure, why did you click on this link?

                    Where did I claim to be pure?

                    Did you want to educate yourself on how far south she nudged her swimsuit?

                    I educate myself on important current events like our president and Congress preparing to serve up $1.5 trillon of pork to their friends in the private sector. The swimsuit issue of Sports Illustrated will soon be tossed in the trash bin. Porkfest 2009 will endure for months and enrich our new president's best friends.

                    Word analogy:

                    Bush : Halliburton

                    Obama : ?

                    • 2 votes
                    #10.11 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:55 PM EST
                    inoubliable

                    nice try. the article is pretty much about T&A, not politics. there's plenty of other articles about that around here somewhere...

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.12 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:27 PM EST
                    thirdfeast

                    are you sure that is south?

                      #10.13 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:41 PM EST
                      rickace

                      Blizzy

                      Geez rick you can't help but be controversial can you?

                      Heh. That's how I get some of my kicks. I also enjoy pwning horde with my twinked resto druid chick in WoW. Nothing says "you're owned one-on-one" like charging a hordie huntard and seeing him run away instead of engaging me in melee combat like he's equipped to do.

                      When I was twelve years old or so, I took a swipe at Louie Marino, who was a skliled student of judo. He deftly crooked his right arm about my neck and his right leg behind my legs. Legs and arms can trump swinging fists as I was about to learn. Next thing I knew I was flat on the ground.

                      In my early twenties I enrolled in a dojo in New Jersey. Sensei Versocki was a fifth dan and one helluva teacher. He was older than I was with a bulging gut. He said "bring it", I came at him with my scrappy best! Senseis rock.

                      Seems like you're stirring the pot hoping some talk radio station is scouting the vine for the Limbaugh of tomorrow.

                      I don't tune in to Limbaugh or Hannity.

                      • 2 votes
                      #10.14 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:49 PM EST
                      Jason-632265

                      You guys are arguing about how smart she is? I haven't made it higher than her tits on the picture yet....brains, intelligence...hmm never thought of that.

                        #10.15 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:06 AM EST
                        rickace

                        Not arguing. All I said was I prefer smart women to bimbos. Some of us guys are weird like that. Go figure.

                        Anyway, yeah she has a hot bod. Speaking of hotties, check this out guys. Cute face too!

                        • 2 votes
                        #10.16 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:29 PM EST
                        boneclinkz

                        Anyway, yeah she has a hot bod. Speaking of hotties, check out guys. Cute face too!

                        hahahaha noice

                        A smart woman sounds nice in theory... but I find ladies who are smarter than me to be intimidating, which disqualifies basically any woman with an 8th grade education or better.

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.17 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:30 PM EST
                        * The Dead Head *

                        Yep, ricklace..........I'm hot for Teacher too....................as per Van Halen.........

                        • 2 votes
                        #10.18 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:50 AM EST
                        alanwillingham

                        boneclinkz - I find ladies who are smarter than me to be intimidating

                        Great...

                        ...if they're hot, cute, smart and intimidating to you, you can give them my addy

                        ; )

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.19 - Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:58 AM EST
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                        Kare W

                        As usual, just vulgar. I'm sure this will sell bikinis to women. Not! Just another sexist move. Has nothing to do with sports, except the one called prostitution.

                        • 1 vote
                        #11 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:43 AM EST
                        DocBlunt

                        whoa, you need to calm down. if this cover angers you, take alook around. look at the 13 year old girls looking more like a prostitue than anyone who ever graced the cover of SI. getting angry at guys for buying and looking at what is targeted towards men is stupid. The swimsuit edition has never had anything to do with sports. surprised? shouldn't be.

                        • 5 votes
                        #11.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:59 AM EST
                        gecko85

                        The SI swimsuit edition is essentially a travelogue. It's as much about the locales as it is the models/bikinis.

                        Vulgar? Sexist? Prostitution? Please...Give it a rest.

                        • 3 votes
                        #11.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:09 AM EST
                        Jane WIlder

                        Kare W
                        I agree--garbage--wonder why the little girls and teens look the way they do? its because they think they have to look like that for someone to love them. Sick, and it isn't a coincidence that since the fall of feminism and the rise of RAP, along with the new zeitgeist that feminists have to "lighten up" and "get a sense of humor" that the stats in the US for rape and domestic violence have gone through the roof.

                        I notice that the word "chick' has made a big come back, especially with women, as women are afraid if they don't go along with the"joke" that men will thing they are uptight prudes. It is about the $$$$$$.

                        Pure and simple. The objectification of a woman--look up this seed to all the references to pussy, and one combining to two COMMODITIES beer and pussy.

                        Is that what you want for your daughter. Some creepy man on his couch looking at your daughter pulling his penis and sucking a beer til he dribbles??? Gross. Shame on Newsvine.

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST
                        boneclinkz

                        Some creepy man on his couch looking at your daughter pulling his penis and sucking a beer til he dribbles???

                        Isn't this a woman's highest calling?

                        Kidding :)

                        • 1 vote
                        #11.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:47 PM EST
                        enigma

                        Some creepy man on his couch looking at your daughter pulling his penis and sucking a beer til he dribbles???

                        Hey, I don't tell you how to do your job, don't tell me how to do mine! ;)

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:15 PM EST
                        inoubliable

                        whoa. chill. i'm a woman and i found the pic to be a bit empowering. look around at the comments and you see which sex has the upper hand. ;)

                        besides that, the girl is HOT!

                        • 3 votes
                        #11.6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST
                        Jane WIlder

                        well that is the same thing the rapists say

                        • 1 vote
                        #11.7 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:09 PM EST
                        Bluekilgoretrout

                        I will point this out as gently as I can:

                        Newsvine is NOT a support group.

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.8 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:50 PM EST
                        Jane WIlder

                        no its supposed to make you smarter though.............

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.9 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:39 PM EST
                        Bluekilgoretrout

                        So you do believe in advertising.

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.10 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:41 PM EST
                        Blizzy

                        wonder why the little girls and teens look the way they do?

                        Jane - has nothing to do with the fact that few parents are actually watching what their kids do and wear right?

                        Parents aren't doing their jobs, then trying to blame magazine covers, movies, and etc. for why their teen girls dress like they're 20 when they're 12. Raising your kids is YOUR responsibility, not society's. And maybe if people spent more time in dialogue with their kids there would be fewer future skanks out there.

                        But what one woman does on a magazine cover has zero to do with how your own kids dress and behave.

                        • 5 votes
                        #11.11 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:14 PM EST
                        Jane WIlder

                        Blizzy;
                        that is just BS. If you have teen aged girls and think you know all they are doing--well good for you. People are so shocked when something bad happens to their kid--all of a sudden all the platitudes about parenting are gone and you get it that until the culture accepts women as whole beings where the subjective isn't disceted from the objective Until then, there is no way you as the "good parent" can protect your kids.

                        • 1 vote
                        #11.12 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:46 PM EST
                        Blizzy

                        I'm sorry, but you're full of excuses...I have a daughter, she's 8 and her and I are best friends but I'm also dad - who doesn't accept bad behavior. I make a point to discuss things with her to build the kind of relationship that will prevent her from feeling the need to keep secrets in the future. Will she be perfect? No, and I wouldn't ever expect her to be. But as a parent my job is to provide her with the information necessary to help her make stronger decisions...magazines, television shows, her peers have a diminished effect because she comes to me for the answers she needs.

                        If you feel helpless as a parent, then you should seek help with your situation. Parents should never feel like they can't protect their kids. Buck up. It's your job. Society won't do it for you.

                        • 3 votes
                        #11.13 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:57 PM EST
                        rickace

                        DocBlunt

                        whoa, you need to calm down. if this cover angers you,

                        I read Kare's post. There is no anger in evidence. Perhaps it's you who needs to calm down?

                        take alook around. look at the 13 year old girls looking more like a prostitue than anyone who ever graced the cover of SI.

                        Graced?

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.14 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:42 AM EST
                        Jason-632265

                        I made the beer and pussy comment, if it sounded sexist then I hit the nail on square on the head. You women crack me up, like you don't make similar comments about men on magazines, tv, or what have you....well the ones in here probably don't, they seem pretty up tight but if women didn't like looking at men the same way men like looking at women then why do all those magazines have male models all over the covers. You don't here us crying about being sad because we don't look like they do and nobody loves us.....damn, cry me a river!

                        • 3 votes
                        #11.15 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:11 AM EST
                        Jack Huang

                        As usual, just vulgar. I'm sure this will sell bikinis to women. Not! Just another sexist move. Has nothing to do with sports, except the one called prostitution.

                        I actually asked a few female friends about this "total hotties marketed to men" disconnect regarding the Victoria's Secret catalogues, and she said that many women want to look sexy not just to impress men, but to one-up their friends and boost general self-esteem, so the sexy catalogues aren't just eye candy for men.

                        I agree--garbage--wonder why the little girls and teens look the way they do? its because they think they have to look like that for someone to love them.

                        You have far bigger problems than you think if your "little girls" are getting the totality of their social education from the SI Swimsuit Issue, rap videos, and America's Next Top Model.

                        well that is the same thing the rapists say

                        Fine. In the interest of not sounding like a beer-gutted Internet rapist: that wonderful lady is a solid "meh."

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.16 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:29 PM EST
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                        Kare W

                        Like any of you guys would have a chance. Can't stop laughing.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#12 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:44 AM EST
                        boneclinkz

                        Like any of you guys would have a chance. Can't stop laughing.

                        Mrs. Totally-Doesn't-Understand-Men chimes in.

                        • 6 votes
                        #12.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:13 AM EST
                        SnakeDaJake

                        Hey I might,

                        I really think I might...

                        Right Guys?

                        cricket cricket

                          #12.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:19 AM EST
                          SnakeDaJake

                          Like any of you guys would have a chance. Can't stop laughing.

                          Mrs. Totally-Doesn't-Understand-Men chimes in.

                          ROFLMAO O gawd that is great!

                            #12.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:09 PM EST
                            gordy327

                            "Like any of you guys would have a chance. Can't stop laughing."

                            We can dream, can't we? And do I have some happy dreams, lol.

                              #12.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:14 PM EST
                              inoubliable

                              have a chance at what exactly? hitting it? give me a break. they'd be okay with just owning a copy of the mag and their imagination.

                              you sound jealous. you're not one of those lady beasts are you?

                              • 5 votes
                              #12.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:56 PM EST
                              Blizzy

                              Like any of you guys would have a chance. Can't stop laughing.

                              Boy Kare you sound a little bitter...I find that a little weird.

                              • 3 votes
                              #12.6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:16 PM EST
                              Jane WIlder

                              Blizzy:
                              You have an 8 year old. What makes you think you know S#$@ about having a a teenaged kid? ha ha ha ha ha--ROFL--Right now you have total control, as any good parent of a young child. What are you going to do when she is older. Hire a PI, or a body guard?

                              And even if your little girl learns everything right,takes a zillion self defense courses she will be no match from a group of jerks with violence--that they see as sex on their mind. All the karate in the world and daddy's instruction on bad behavior that can't stop them from deciding that her a bathing suit, her shoes, her hair, whatever floats their boat, or that all girls want it, are a great reason for raping or sodomizing her and you can't do a damn thing about that. First thing you would know, You would be standing in some ER with blood flowing out of yourdaughter and tears and rage, and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it. And to make it worse--so many would say. What was she doing out. What was she wearing? or the favorite, "she wanted it" Nice??

                              Think somehow it could never happen to your kid--think again, It happens all the time.
                              And no, the victims didn't "want it".

                              "Its the culture stupid". It is a culture that allows the objectification of the female gender. That is the only reason it keeps happening and gets worse each year. We allow it to be socially acceptable to objectify women as sex objects.

                              Until we change the socio/cultural attitudes, all the great parenting in the world will be a protective as a leaky condom.

                                #12.7 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:22 PM EST
                                Blizzy

                                Look Jane, I could never convince you that all men aren't evil so I won't bother...you have a point when it comes to cultural objectification, but then take it to an irrational level almost creating an excuse or leading reason why bad things happen to women in society. Your reasoning is misplaced. Your tact unrealistic.

                                The whole post was simply about a professional model, who took a picture, the picture was a little risque, the author wondered what people thought about it. Then you start hollaring about rape and making these irrational statements.

                                What statement is irrational? "The way women dress is part of the reason why they are raped". Completely stupid. There's a story currently on the vine about a Saudi girl was gang-raped and sentenced to a year in prison and 100 lashes. Saudi girls don't wear bikini's.

                                At any rate, don't blame society for an inability to lead your child. It's not about control. It's about the ability to establish and maintain dialogue, ensure lines of communication, and provide knowledge and wisdom that creates pause.

                                You need some work personally...just my opinion, but I honestly think you do.

                                • 1 vote
                                #12.8 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:39 PM EST
                                Jane WIlder

                                Blizzy:
                                If you believe that the whole point of the SI cover is to give the model a chance. I think you are the deluded one. The question most put out as a defense to rape is exactly the one you poo-pooed. That somehow her clothing or mannerisms, or hair, or whatever, meant that she was asking for it. The Saudi situation has nothing to do with this and Saudi Men have been infamous for their consumption of porn--but that is all neither her not there.

                                Are you blaming me or my child for her being raped?

                                She was raped because of rapists, not because she happened to be the victim. And you say the blame the victim is over??

                                  #12.9 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:58 PM EST
                                  Blizzy

                                  Huh? I never said anything about giving the model a chance. A chance to do what? She chose a career similar to the career a man might chose when he does that ridiculous cologne and perfume commercials.

                                  I stated that was the excuse you seemed to be purporting...I never said rape has anything to do with the way a woman dresses, what she does, or how she carries herself. You made that argument...and then stated that society is somehow to blame.

                                  What you don't seem to get is that rapists are that way and will do what they want to do because they're criminals...so no change in society will change that. Rape is about power and violence.

                                  I never knew your child was raped - and I'm sorry for that. But you hurt your own cause turning everyone else into the enemy. I knew there was something that caused you to come out with this seemingly out of nowhere...you need to understand that there was nothing your daughter, or society could've done differently to have the outcome it did.

                                  What we were talking about at first, was not letting society raise your child...read the conversation over again with different eyes, maybe you'll get what I've been trying to explain.

                                  Or not and we'll drop it...

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #12.10 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:56 AM EST
                                  Jack Huang

                                  Like any of you guys would have a chance. Can't stop laughing.

                                  Mrs. Totally-Doesn't-Understand-Men chimes in.

                                  More like Mrs. Totally-Doesn't-Understand-People, as if the hordes of women who fawn over Clooney and Pitt have a chance in hell. :-p

                                  The question most put out as a defense to rape is exactly the one you poo-pooed. That somehow her clothing or mannerisms, or hair, or whatever, meant that she was asking for it.

                                  Actually, you're the only one directly connecting rape to women dressing sexily. Sounds like you're the one trying to blame the victim here.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #12.11 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:32 PM EST
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                                  Sgt. Pepper

                                  Finally! It's about time the Newsvine front page showed some real news.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#13 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:47 AM EST
                                  PanhandleMike

                                  worried about retouching the tonal variations on her face.

                                  She has a face? Oh yea her face. Glad you mentioned that. Damn near missed that part of her.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#14 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:57 AM EST
                                  JalJones

                                  Today we are all Israelis! She is smmmmokkkin hottt. So hot it hurts! I'm excited about SI again.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#15 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:02 AM EST
                                  RachaelMM

                                  Love this cover. She's gorgeous, and looks very natural. She's not bone skinny, her breasts look real (and good, too). I think this was a good choice for the cover. Nice job, SI.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  Reply#16 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:16 AM EST
                                  Cbrook3

                                  Agreed, although I'm not so sure about the real-ness you mentioned...

                                  Her Wikipedia page says she's an American size 6 - that is SO refreshing!!

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #16.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:29 PM EST
                                  inoubliable

                                  agreed! she looks really pretty and normal. not too skinny. although i'm going to have to say that my breasts are real and look better. :)

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #16.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:57 PM EST
                                  Bluekilgoretrout

                                  Any photos?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #16.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:09 PM EST
                                  Jack Huang

                                  although i'm going to have to say that my breasts are real and look better. :)

                                  Pics or it didn't happen.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #16.4 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:32 PM EST
                                  inoubliable

                                  lol.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #16.5 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:26 PM EST
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                                  jbdaad

                                  The water in back is really a nice shade of blue.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#17 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:21 AM EST
                                  Csp

                                  What water?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #17.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:32 PM EST
                                  jbdaad

                                  The pretty blue and white water between her bikini ties. What are you looking at?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #17.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:38 PM EST
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                                  shawnthelawyer@verizon.net

                                  A sure sign of Spring, the SI swimsuit issue. There's always a cute young girl with a little swimsuit on the cover, and it has nothing to do with the locale. The girls could be photographed inside a warehouse full of plastic peanuts and canning jars, and they would still be the center of attention.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#18 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:30 AM EST
                                  RODNEY ELKINS

                                  OH GREAT!! Now i have to find another hiding place from my wife. This one will be harder to hide than the little Fredricks of HollyWOOD books. HA HA and YES i did say WOOD.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #18.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:49 AM EST
                                  rickace

                                  OH GREAT!! Now i have to find another hiding place from my wife.

                                  Just in case she happens to find it be careful not to get the pages stuck together.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #18.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:42 PM EST
                                  Jack Huang

                                  The girls could be photographed inside a warehouse full of plastic peanuts and canning jars, and they would still be the center of attention.

                                  Plastic peanuts can totally be sexy.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #18.3 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:33 PM EST
                                  alanwillingham

                                  rickace - Just in case she happens to find it be careful not to get the pages stuck together.

                                  Hey, if she can't buy her own she'll just have to deal with his premature exclamations

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #18.4 - Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:01 AM EST
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                                  eric fuller

                                  For every letter to SI cancelling their subscription because of the swimsuit edition saying it's pornographic, they get more subscriptions. The swimsuit edition comes out once a year compared to Maxim and Playboy that comes out monthly.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#19 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:31 PM EST
                                  rickace

                                  Why pay for a magazine with a still shot of a faux pr0n tart in a swimsuit when youporn.com is available for free? I'd figure SI is losing subscriptions.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #19.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:45 PM EST
                                  RODNEY ELKINS

                                  I don't see the problem. The advertisments in the local Victoria Secret store or the Abercrombie catalogs my step-daughter has is way worse than this picture.

                                    #19.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:47 PM EST
                                    jbdaad

                                    The advertisments in the local Victoria Secret store or the Abercrombie catalogs my step-daughter has is way worse than this picture.

                                    Oh yeah??? Well...they only do it to sell clothes...to sell enhance...a woman. And only behind closed doors! So there!

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #19.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:53 PM EST
                                    RODNEY ELKINS

                                    Wake up man it's 1:00 in the day and your still dreaming.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #19.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:01 PM EST
                                    jbdaad

                                    lol

                                      #19.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:03 PM EST
                                      RODNEY ELKINS

                                      Why do you think that they put all of the benches for the husbands in front of these stores.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #19.6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:09 PM EST
                                      Jack Huang

                                      Why pay for a magazine with a still shot of a faux pr0n tart in a swimsuit when youporn.com is available for free? I'd figure SI is losing subscriptions.

                                      Production quality and the veneer of social legitimacy.

                                      Why do you think that they put all of the benches for the husbands in front of these stores.

                                      I personally love the 12-foot-high "fashion showcase" posters my local VSecret plasters its windows with.

                                      It's mildly disturbing, though, when abercrombie has provocative black-and-whites of 16-year-old girls (and I can do without huge "let's use an unclothed man to sell clothing" posters at A&F entrances).

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #19.7 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:37 PM EST
                                      boneclinkz

                                      Production quality and the veneer of social legitimacy.

                                      Haha. Maybe all current socially acceptable magazines will evolve into softcore pornography at some point. It will be like that scene from the movie Idiocracy where Luke Wilson awakens in the distant future and picks up the current issue of Hot Naked Chicks and World Report magazine.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #19.8 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:02 PM EST
                                      alanwillingham

                                      rickace - when youporn.com is available for free?

                                      So you don't keep a roll of quarters in your pocket any more?

                                      ; )

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #19.9 - Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:02 AM EST
                                      Blizzy

                                      LMAO alan you're on fire!

                                        #19.10 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:36 AM EST
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                                        Jane WIlder

                                        Its not that it is pornographic--its that it is making money by objectifying women. laugh all you want- I hope you would feel the same if it were your daughter pulling off her bottom to tease the world with her body. If it isn't ok for your kid, I guess you should think about what it means for everyone's daughters.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#20 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:47 PM EST
                                        boneclinkz

                                        You make a good point, Jane. But it's very hard to appeal to a man's sense of gender equity and social consciousness while they are being hypnotized by big beautiful pendulous breasts...

                                          #20.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:50 PM EST
                                          RODNEY ELKINS

                                          Hope you really don't think my wife and i would be proud if our daughter was an SI model, PLEASE. If she can work the system and make that much money more power to her. You surely don't think this model is a bad person just because she is beautiful and a little more sexual than most women do you? Only the ones that are able try, the rest talk sh*%. So what if you get paid million for being a genetic marvel. Life is short, make yourself happy and quit trying to depress the ones of us that are having fun.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #20.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:55 PM EST
                                          gordy327

                                          How is she being objectified? She chose to be a model, she chose to do SI, she chose to wear bikinis. Plus, she gets paid more money in a year than I will probably see in my entire life just because she's "objectified" Sounds like a sweet deal to me.

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #20.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:18 PM EST
                                          Blizzy

                                          I agree Gordy - how do you objectify someone who chooses to be a model for a living?

                                          That argument doesn't make a lot of sense at all.

                                          Everyone is someone's daughter, but when they grow up they make the choices they decide to make and that's it. To criticize people for choosing a profession is a little nutty, and in this case, wreaks of jealousy. She's not posing nude (and never has), she's covered and it's a picture. Period.

                                          • 2 votes
                                          #20.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:23 PM EST
                                          Jane WIlder

                                          Blizzy:
                                          I never said a word about her. not one. I would say she made a poor choice. I would say lots of people make poor choices that are based on $$$$ that doesn't make it a good choice just because it makes money.

                                          I am criticizing a culture that thinks it is ok to objectify a woman for $$$$$$$$. That is not okay. Women are more than objects. When we objectify women we invite others to as well. This leads to violence against women. Read some transcripts from rape cases. They agree with you, "she was asking for it". I would not agree with them, you would say they graduated into as you call them "future skanks". I guess skanks deserve to be raped?

                                          And the kids of the "good parents" I guess what? opppsss?

                                            #20.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:59 PM EST
                                            Jimster

                                            Jane-

                                            Just curious Jane; do you think men are objectified in this culture?

                                            Have you seen every other magazine cover with men on them? Do they not display those nearly impossible washboard abs? Ripped and cut chests?

                                            Is not every man in commercials these days a complete idiot unable to do a thing until the woman comes along to save him from his own stupiditity?

                                            Your comments would be more valid if you weren't so selective in your outrage. Even though I disagree with them.

                                            Look, there is a certain amount of the opposite sexes behavior that will ever be understood by the other. That's just the way it is. To attempt to is futile.

                                            I believe in equal access and all the other equalities that women seek, but this is different. You're talking sbout physiological reaction here.

                                            Do you really think your words have any effect on men's reaction to a seeing a beautiful woman? Is there anything I could say that would effect woman's reactions to seeing a newborn baby? Of course not. It's hard-wired. It's what makes us human.

                                            We are all objects to someone.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            #20.6 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:57 PM EST
                                            Jane WIlder

                                            Jimster"'m not selective on my outrage. I am disgusted that at this late date in the game that people cannot understand the concept of the objectification of women and the social ramifications of that. Plenty of things are hardwired, So what ? Does that mean we give in to the ones that hurt others in our culture?

                                            We have cultural and socially acceptable ways of expressing these reactions as you call them. We don't as a culture accept many urges as okay, because they damage or diminish us somehow.

                                            I said, over and over now, I have no problems with nudity, I have no problem with sex between consenting adults, I have not problem with the beauty of the female of the male form. They are natural (or not) and beautiful as the baby you mentioned.

                                            What is not beautiful is to take a beautiful woman and dissect her into something less than she is , namely a whole person. I would say this is bad for both genders. The reason I am speaking about women is A) the person in the photo is a woman
                                            B) you have seen the comments--they are degrading many of them. (not all)
                                            c) women are the victims of crimes where the men many times don't even get what they did wrong, as the objectification of women in our culture is so pervasive that they really believe, "she wanted it", or some such other lame biological excuse. If those numbers of assaults against men start meet the numbers of the assault against women because of the objectification process, I will complain too. When the double standards that sexual women are what did they call them up seed "skanks?" and sexual men are players have been addressed, then things will be different , and so will the conversation.

                                            What are you saying anyway? that women are hard-wired for reactions to babys and men for reactions for sex? Are you saying that women don't like sex and are not hard-wired to want sex?
                                            Or that a dad wouldn't be just as amazed at a newborn child? That is truly weird.

                                            Even the women on here who are trashing me like sex. I like sex. Liking sex is not what I am talking about. I am talking about turning a person into a sex object--

                                            if you don't understand this, and really want to understand it and are not another one who wants to blame biology and therefore blame the women read "The Dialectic of Sex", by Firestone. This is what that book is about. It is an easy read, and it might answer your questions if you are not just blowing smoke.

                                              #20.7 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:02 PM EST
                                              boneclinkz

                                              Also, watch the "Killing Us Softly" documentaries by Jean Kilbourne if you want to understand why women have (or should have) a problem with mass media advertising.

                                                #20.8 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:19 PM EST
                                                Jack Huang

                                                Jimster"'m not selective on my outrage.

                                                Funny, then, that you explicitly avoided Jimster's "do men also get similarly objectified?" question.

                                                What are you saying anyway? that women are hard-wired for reactions to babys and men for reactions for sex? Are you saying that women don't like sex and are not hard-wired to want sex?
                                                Or that a dad wouldn't be just as amazed at a newborn child? That is truly weird.

                                                Way to be completely black-and-white. Women are indeed strongly hardwired for reactions to babies, more so than men. As for sex, women are hardwired to take more nuances into cosndieration when choosing sexual partners.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #20.9 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:40 PM EST
                                                Jimster

                                                What are you saying anyway? that women are hard-wired for reactions to babys and men for reactions for sex? Are you saying that women don't like sex and are not hard-wired to want sex?
                                                Or that a dad wouldn't be just as amazed at a newborn child? That is truly weird.

                                                I guess I shouldn't be suprised by this statement, as you have written in just as vulgar a fashion on this thread as the comments you rail against. This is an offensive statement to me.

                                                I attempted to enter into the discussion by offering a more reasoned question to you (which, as Jack pointed out, you ignored).

                                                I picked the two examples that I did because they are stand-outs for strong reactions in each of the sexes rhelms. I in no way implied that women don't like sex or that dad's can't be amazed at their newborns. It was an illustration. Sorry you didn't get it.

                                                Funny thing is, you seem to have this urge to communicate your ideologies to men in a quest for harmony between the sexes (maybe), yet you're so vile and off-putting that it is you that causes the rift.

                                                You are a human circular argument.

                                                I hope you find peace

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #20.10 - Fri Feb 13, 2009 2:13 AM EST
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                                                Jane WIlder

                                                wait until your teen age daughter gets her "pussy", as you all think is fine to describe this womans vagina, ripped to shreds being raped by some jerk who says, "well look how she was dressed". "she was asking for it". Don't believe that happens anymore???Think again. And it isn't about the clothes or lack or them. It is all about the sexist crappy attitude that women are things to be used by men.

                                                  #21 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:52 PM EST
                                                  RODNEY ELKINS

                                                  But these wemon live to have men drool all over them. How does that make it a mans fault. Define who you want to be dont try and define the rest of the world. Our diversity is what keeps us going.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #21.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:58 PM EST
                                                  Bluekilgoretrout

                                                  Just take it easy, Jane! This was all fine and good until your candid and quite disturbing recreation of rape got into the mix. Maybe you should refrain from opening these types of posts in the future.

                                                  A simple appreciation of the stunning figure of this woman, does, in no way indicate that anyone is looking to "use" this woman as you point out. If anything she is using my libido to profit handsomely.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #21.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:13 PM EST
                                                  boneclinkz

                                                  Jane is right; things like this contribute to the objectification of women. For the 99.9% of other women out there who don't naturally have a body like hers, this is damaging. Advertising has created a feminine ideal that is destructive and unsustainable, and puts ridiculous amounts of stress on women, especially young women at a time in their lives when they are feeling the most insecure.

                                                  Luckily, through the miracle of hypocrisy, I am still able to really enjoy seeing hot chicks in bikinis.

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #21.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:37 PM EST
                                                  Bluekilgoretrout

                                                  Boneclinkz:

                                                  I will celebrate your hypocrisy any chance I get. I disagree with your assertion that this is damaging to 99.9% of women. My wife is smokin' hot in her own right, but has a decidedly different body type. Just as a Picasso is no Cezanne, I can appreciate both.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #21.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:47 PM EST
                                                  Jane WIlder

                                                  Blue-
                                                  say what you want- look up the seed and see what kind of response this got. I didn't pick the words pussy and beer out of a hat. I have nothing against naked, or beauty , or big breasts or a small waist or what ever floats your boat. I do have a problem with the whole thing of a womans body(some joked about her not having a face etc etc) to sell things. That is the definition of objectification. This may be fine for many people. But you can't deny what comes out of this for the whole culture. look up this seed and really read it. Women have been struggling to be taken seriously as human beings and not sex toys for a long time. We get paid less, we get worse health care, we get sexually assaulted at a much higher rate. Rape is the most rapidly increasing violent crime despite a general lowering of other violent crimes. This kind of attitude that women pulling their suit off for the entertainment of men is what it is about is just sick. If you really want me to I will go find those stats if you don't take my word for it.

                                                  It happens. People are shocked when it happens to someone's kid or a friend they know, but why? When women are treated as sex objects who "want it" why should we be surprised when some freak thinks its ok to "give them some"? laugh on til it hits home. No I don't think it is cool, or funny. I think it is sad that this is where we are at in 2009.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #21.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:18 PM EST
                                                  Bluekilgoretrout

                                                  Jane:

                                                  Let's say that I were to agree with you that this type of thing is a scurge on our society, so what? Where do we go from here. Objectification for the benefit of sexual fantasy is nothing new. Take a look at some ancient Etruscan vases. There is some decidedly freaky @!$%# going on there.

                                                  Bottom line is that I don't condone the attitudes that go along with this. I have a deep respect for women, as people and sex objects. I don't think this viewpoint is mutually exclusive, but I am a heterosexual male who takes a great deal of pleasure from the female form.

                                                  Look at the cultures that cover women from head to toe. Is their situation better than American co-eds sporting bikinis? Atrocities will and have occurred throughout history for a variety of reasons. This cover doesn't cause it to continue, just as all else that came before hasn't led to it.

                                                  I hear what you are saying, but I disagree about your conclusions on cause and effect. Give me a solution, other than mentally reprograming the human race, and we can have a better conversation.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #21.6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:31 PM EST
                                                  Jane WIlder

                                                  a solution is not to use women's bodies to sell stuff.

                                                    #21.7 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:37 PM EST
                                                    Bluekilgoretrout

                                                    Talk to Armani and David Beckham about peddling men's briefs. Talk to Nike. It goes both ways.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #21.8 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:41 PM EST
                                                    RachaelMM

                                                    For the 99.9% of other women out there who don't naturally have a body like hers, this is damaging.

                                                    Bull@!$%#. This is damaging to women who weren't sufficiently parented and taught to love themselves. I sure as hell don't look like this, but I love my body. My own self-love and respect is in no way damaged because someone happens to be more genetically blessed than I am. Any daughter of mine will know that she can love herself and her body, because it is imperfect and different from everyone else's.

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #21.9 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:51 PM EST
                                                    Bluekilgoretrout

                                                    Thank you, Rachael. Well said.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #21.10 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:55 PM EST
                                                    gecko85

                                                    Bull@!$%#. This is damaging to women who weren't sufficiently parented and taught to love themselves. I sure as hell don't look like this, but I love my body. My own self-love and respect is in no way damaged because someone happens to be more genetically blessed than I am. Any daughter of mine will know that she can love herself and her body, because it is imperfect and different from everyone else's.

                                                    Finally, a voice of reason and intelligence.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #21.11 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:58 PM EST
                                                    boneclinkz

                                                    Why are anorexia and bulimia so much more common in females?

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #21.12 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:58 PM EST
                                                    Southern Bell

                                                    Bull@!$%#. This is damaging to women who weren't sufficiently parented and taught to love themselves. I sure as hell don't look like this, but I love my body.

                                                    Amen Rachael!

                                                    I've always had hips and curves, even when I was younger. Too many young girls think we need to be without the natural curves we're suppose to have.

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #21.13 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:59 PM EST
                                                    boneclinkz

                                                    Why do attractive women get hired over better-qualified plain women?

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #21.14 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:59 PM EST
                                                    Bluekilgoretrout

                                                    No one is claiming that females aren't more susceptible to societal pressures regarding appearance than males, but to solely focus on extreme expressions of it is tantamount to saying that this SI cover is pornography.

                                                    If we are going to get all extreme, I am all in. (gnashing teeth).

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #21.15 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:07 PM EST
                                                    boneclinkz

                                                    No one is claiming that females aren't more susceptible to societal pressures regarding appearance than males, but to solely focus on extreme expressions of it is tantamount to saying that this SI cover is pornography.

                                                    If we are going to get all extreme, I am all in. (gnashing teeth).

                                                    I'm not really picking on the sports illustrated issue in question, I just stated that it obviously reinforces the objectification of women, and I opined that it was harmful to the 99.9% of women who don't have a body like hers (e.g. one that falls into the societal "norm" for feminine beauty). To be honest, I'm surprised that anybody would take issue with that statement.

                                                      #21.16 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:28 PM EST
                                                      RachaelMM

                                                      I don't think it does reinforce objectification. There's a difference between celebration and objectification. Concededly, in some cases, the line is thin, perhaps nonexistent.

                                                      And I certainly don't think that 99.9% of women who aren't physically near-perfect will be "damaged" by a magazine cover that, in my opinion, celebrates rather than objectifies.

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      #21.17 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:29 PM EST
                                                      boneclinkz

                                                      But I will say that good parenting goes a long way towards ameliorating those problems. I'll also say that this particular publication photo shouldn't be damaging in the way you seem to imply, boneclinkz. And certainly it's not damaging to 99.9% of women.

                                                      My mistake for sloppy writing and hyperbole. Let me rephrase: the objectification of women in the way demonstrated by touched-up pictures of swimsuit models on glossy magazine covers is detrimental to the self-image of the majority of women who have bodies that do not conform to the standards of female beauty showcased by said magazine cover.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #21.18 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:35 PM EST
                                                      RachaelMM

                                                      A couple of points in response: most normal people know that a swimsuit model is above and beyond any real "standard" beauty. If parents fail to teach their children that swimsuit models are not a standard that anyone reasonable person can live up to, they've failed as parents.

                                                      Also, as I said, there's a fine line between appreciation and objectification. I think a case can be made that this cover is about appreciation.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #21.19 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:41 PM EST
                                                      boneclinkz

                                                      Well, as a man who has done extensive research in SI: Swimsuit Editions in the past, I can say with relative certainty that the purpose of that issue is to be wank material for dudes.

                                                      Regardless, the problem with expecting parents to raise their children in a way that celebrates differences and imperfections is that it assumes that parents haven't fallen prey to the idea that "a woman should look like this", which you and I both know isn't the case.

                                                      I can clearly recall a number of occasions where my mother would talk to my sister about how "pretty" one of her friends was, or how another friend should wear her hair a different way that didn't make her face look fat, or how a certain hollywood actress would look much better if she lost a little weight. I don't doubt that my sister felt pressure from that.

                                                      As a guy I never had to endure the expectation to conform to some model of good looks. Growing up as a dude is @!$%#ing awesome by comparison. High school was like easy street, and I'm watching all these girls having breakdowns from the pressure.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #21.20 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:00 PM EST
                                                      RachaelMM

                                                      Well, as a man who has done extensive research in SI: Swimsuit Editions in the past, I can say with relative certainty that the purpose of that issue is to be wank material for dudes.

                                                      Ha! And don't you appreciate the fine female forms they use?

                                                      Regardless, the problem with expecting parents to raise their children in a way that celebrates differences and imperfections is that it assumes that parents haven't fallen prey to the idea that "a woman should look like this", which you and I both know isn't the case.

                                                      That's a good point. I suppose I am giving too much credit. And I certainly don't dispute that more pressure is societally (did I just make up a word?) placed on women, in comparison with men. I guess I don't see SI's Swimsuit Edition as the biggest threat to women's self-esteem. But I'm lucky, I suppose, in that I recognize my flaws and celebrate them, rather than obsessing over some ideal of perfection that I know -- and that I think everyone else should know -- is completely false.

                                                      I'll reiterate; good points. Thanks, boneclinkz.

                                                        #21.21 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:17 PM EST
                                                        gecko85

                                                        Why do attractive women get hired over better-qualified plain women?

                                                        Why do taller men get more promotions than shorter men?

                                                        What's your point?

                                                        • 5 votes
                                                        #21.22 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:05 PM EST
                                                        Blizzy

                                                        Sorry Jane - but you're the un-evolved one...to believe that all men think the way YOU do is disgusting. I find your comments pointless, and I think you're internalizing some sort of experience; be it someone else's or your own; and you're using it make an empty point.

                                                        Women use their own bodies to sell stuff, and you know it.

                                                        In your opinion, the man who shoots the picture is more to blame than the woman who chooses to be the swimsuit or lingerie model. Your argument doesn't hold water.

                                                        • 2 votes
                                                        #21.23 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:32 PM EST
                                                        Jane WIlder

                                                        Blizzy: I am under no illusion that most men think like I do. However I can't help it if you find my comments pointless. I feel the same way about yours if that is any consolation.

                                                        .

                                                        Boneclinkz:
                                                        I am not talking just about pressure on teens to look good. Everyone wants to look their best. I am talking about making a woman only on half or the human equation by separating her objective self from the subjective self--this is where the problems and confusion set in. As you say most parents at one time or other probably say this or that to their kids that undermines what they really want for them and substitutes some kind of fear based thing. I agree that happens. But that is not what I am talking about. I am talking about a cultural institution that applauds women being objectified.

                                                        As for males having the same problem. I don't like that either. So, when it reaches critical mass (which I don't believe it will and the number of rapes of men gets even within a zillion miles (not including prison where they just use a substitute for a woman as none are available) of the rape rate of women then talk to me about that.

                                                        http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2008/12/18/us-soaring-rates-rape-and-violence-against-women

                                                          #21.24 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:09 PM EST
                                                          jbdaad

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                                                            #21.25 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST
                                                            Jimster

                                                            Women in burkas get raped too, bikinis got nothing to do with it.

                                                            Rape is about power, not sex.

                                                            • 5 votes
                                                            #21.26 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:06 PM EST
                                                            Blizzy

                                                            Jimster - spot on.

                                                            I think Jane's been watching a little too much Law and Order: Special Victims Unit.

                                                            Think I'll write a new show - Law and Order: Newsvine Truth Squad.

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #21.27 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:09 PM EST
                                                            inoubliable

                                                            ooh, nice. i want a part playing a detective. one of those hot chicks. and could i please have a bikini scene once in a while?

                                                            • 2 votes
                                                            #21.28 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:12 PM EST
                                                            Blizzy

                                                            Absolutely!!! *cue annoying law and order sound*

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #21.29 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:39 PM EST
                                                            PanhandleMike

                                                            Jane,

                                                            You have turned this in to something it isn't. It's a photo of a woman that is getting paid for what she does. How can you blame a woman for using her "talent" to get paid the best money she can bring in. Instead of bashing all the men on the board and "hoping" that their daughter's get raped,(you need professional help) you need to ask Ms. Refaeli why she does what she does and ask HER if SHE feels like she is being eploited. If you do, be ready for a big o bag of f. you from her.

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #21.30 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:49 PM EST
                                                            Jane WIlder

                                                            "women in Burkas get raped too"--duh--they are the absolute example of women being objectified--the are so objectified that they are property. I said it isn't about nudity, or sex--it is about objectification. Read "The Dialectic of Sex" by Firestone.

                                                            Women are part of a culture too. No one escapes from that. There are women who defend the burka and beheadings and canings , what is the point of that question? I already know that both genders can be indoctrinated by the culture for good or bad,

                                                              #21.31 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:08 PM EST
                                                              inoubliable

                                                              jane, seriously cool it. you're exactly the kind of 'hairy pits' chick that people tend to ignore after a while, simply because you've screeched so loudly no one can tell if you're even attempting to make sense anymore.

                                                              you're way off base here. honestly. either enjoy the cover or not. it's really that simple. no hidden agenda there.

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #21.32 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:52 PM EST
                                                              Jack Huang

                                                              Why are anorexia and bulimia so much more common in females?

                                                              Why is steroid use so much more common in males? ;-)

                                                              • 2 votes
                                                              #21.33 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:44 PM EST
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                                                              Sharn CedarDeleted
                                                              Not a man (so this post has value)

                                                              This is the image I get when I read these posts:

                                                              Huddled around a picture of large breasts, the men drool as the try to keep themselves warm in their cage. Completely unaware of what else is going on in the world, this gender amuses itself by looking at picture after picture of the female body. They are the dumber of the species, easily manipulated and controlled by a single pair of breasts.

                                                              It is absolutely disgusting how men represent themselves. Instead of experience reality, men run off to buy the first thing that features boobies. Men are so controlled and not only do you look RETARTED when you hide your little magazines, you are also degrading yourselves.

                                                              When you make such a fuss over these magazines, you are saying, "I'm a stupid man! I must look at pictures of boobies. I can't control myself. I'm just a silly man."

                                                                Reply#23 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:26 PM EST
                                                                Csp

                                                                wait until your teen age daughter gets her "pussy", as you all think is fine to describe this womans vagina, ripped to shreds being raped by some jerk who says, "well look how she was dressed". "she was asking for it". Don't believe that happens anymore???Think again.

                                                                BULL it is that type of mentality that allows clerics in IRAN to get away with forcing women to wear the Bhurka. Because otherwise we are somehow justifying rape.

                                                                Sexual assault is a crime period and is not justified in any way by the choice of a woman to dress a particular way, or model a swimsuit, or even to participate in the porn industry.

                                                                • 5 votes
                                                                Reply#24 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:27 PM EST
                                                                Jane WIlder

                                                                I told you, I don't care if people walk around naked--so what if they do. You are missing the point. The point is the objectification of women to SELL things. Making it like this is what women all want to be on some beach pulling their pants down to sell things for corporate America. It makes girls think that this is what they need to be like to have someone love them and it makes boys think that this is what girls want.

                                                                  #24.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:23 PM EST
                                                                  enigma

                                                                  You know, Jane, this girl is probably more than thrilled to be on the cover; she wasn't forced into this. Sex sells? Wow, what a shocker. The media uses men, women, children, cute kittens, whatever to sell products. If you take issue with that, then it's Capitalism you should be railing against, not some one-size-fits-all rape-porno you have running through your mind whenever someone shows some ankle.

                                                                  • 4 votes
                                                                  #24.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:37 PM EST
                                                                  jbdaad

                                                                  You are missing the point. The point is the objectification of women to SELL things

                                                                  In a round about way your doing the same thing to promote your cause Jane.

                                                                  Peace

                                                                    #24.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:41 PM EST
                                                                    Jane WIlder

                                                                    what is my cause jb?

                                                                      #24.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:48 PM EST
                                                                      CaptainKidd

                                                                      Was it not HER choice to knowingly wear a very revealing bikini, and have her picture taken for a magazine that has a predominantly male readership?

                                                                      It WAS voluntary, wasn't it? Nobody made her do it, right?

                                                                      How is this victimizing, exploiting, or objectifying her any more than she is victimizing, exploiting, or objectifying herself.????

                                                                      All she had to do was say, "No, thanks. I don't think that's where I want my career to go."

                                                                      • 3 votes
                                                                      #24.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:05 PM EST
                                                                      jbdaad

                                                                      Jane WIlder

                                                                      what is my cause jb?

                                                                      That is the definition of objectification. This may be fine for many people. But you can't deny what comes out of this for the whole culture. look up this seed and really read it. Women have been struggling to be taken seriously as human beings and not sex toys for a long time. We get paid less, we get worse health care, we get sexually assaulted at a much higher rate. Rape is the most rapidly increasing violent crime despite a general lowering of other violent crimes. This kind of attitude that women pulling their suit off for the entertainment of men is what it is about is just sick. If you really want me to I will go find those stats if you don't take my word for it.

                                                                      I would think against this.

                                                                      Being a beach bunny myself I do not believe anything wrong with what was revealed in this photograph. She is beautiful. Why not flaunt it while she has it? Freedom of expression.

                                                                      Beach bunny= people who love and go to beaches

                                                                      Snow Bird=people from the northern states recreate in south.

                                                                        #24.6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:09 PM EST
                                                                        Jane WIlder

                                                                        I agree. Nobody made her do it . I never said they did.
                                                                        She could have said "no". In our culture , women don't make as much money as men. Read the Lilly Ledbetter bill that just passed. She didn't get a dime. People can choose to do alot of things to make money. Is that all it takes for it to be a good choice in your opinion? We could say it is ok to do alot of things that would make money, but in my mind that doesn't mean it is good for our culture. And I think all drugs should be legal, being on the cover of SA should be legal, prostitution for adults should be legal. I am not talking about what is legal or what makes a buck I don't beleive tou can legislate morality--that is something we have to actually work on ourselves and take responsibility for ourselves--if you would want that for your daughters--you go for it..

                                                                        Nevermind you all win. I hope you really have a great time with the magazine and that you love what it does for women in our culture to objectify them. peace out kids.

                                                                          #24.7 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST
                                                                          jbdaad

                                                                          You are alright with me Jane.

                                                                          Peace

                                                                          • 1 vote
                                                                          #24.8 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST
                                                                          boneclinkz

                                                                          I agree. Nobody made her do it . I never said they did.
                                                                          She could have said "no". In our culture , women don't make as much money as men. Read the Lilly Ledbetter bill that just passed. She didn't get a dime. People can choose to do alot of things to make money. Is that all it takes for it to be a good choice in your opinion? We could say it is ok to do alot of things that would make money, but in my mind that doesn't mean it is good for our culture. And I think all drugs should be legal, being on the cover of SA should be legal, prostitution for adults should be legal. I am not talking about what is legal or what makes a buck I don't beleive tou can legislate morality--that is something we have to actually work on ourselves and take responsibility for ourselves--if you would want that for your daughters--you go for it..

                                                                          This is a very good post.

                                                                          • 1 vote
                                                                          #24.9 - Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:06 AM EST
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                                                                          Not a man (so this post has value)

                                                                          This is the image I get when I read these posts:

                                                                          Huddled around a magazine featuring a woman with breasts, the men are in a state retardation, drooling as they keep themselves warm in their cages. Unaware of what else is going on in the world, this gender of the species is easily entertained with bright pictures that feature the female body. They are easily controlled and manipulated. They will go along with anything as long as a set of breasts are attached. They participate in the ritual of hiding and burying their precious photos where nobody can find them. Like, dogs they will revisit their hiding place to look at their shiny pictures and then again hide them away. The female gender is aware of this behavior, and simply shake their heads. The male gender can be entertained and controlled for a small cost of $6.99 an issue.

                                                                          • 1 vote
                                                                          #25 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:43 PM EST
                                                                          Bluekilgoretrout

                                                                          I intend to frame my porn just to disprove your post.

                                                                          • 4 votes
                                                                          #25.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:49 PM EST
                                                                          jbdaad

                                                                          The male gender can be entertained and controlled for a small cost of $6.99 an issue.

                                                                          They can it for free from the net....dumbasses!

                                                                            #25.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:51 PM EST
                                                                            gecko85

                                                                            Sounds like someone is jealous, bitter, and quick to offer clueless overgenarlizations.

                                                                            • 4 votes
                                                                            #25.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:57 PM EST
                                                                            RODNEY ELKINS

                                                                            That's not an overgeneralization she's right on the money but what do we care were men. The only thing that would make that cover better is to air brush out her mouth so she can't talk. OH WAIT i forgot the other uses for her mouth.

                                                                            • 2 votes
                                                                            #25.4 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:11 PM EST
                                                                            Bluekilgoretrout

                                                                            I would like to disassociate myself from any and all of Rodney's comments, now and in the future. Thanks.

                                                                            • 4 votes
                                                                            #25.5 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:28 PM EST
                                                                            RODNEY ELKINS

                                                                            Come on man don't hang me out to dry like that. Take one for the team.

                                                                            • 1 vote
                                                                            #25.6 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:33 PM EST
                                                                            Bluekilgoretrout

                                                                            Would I have to use my mouth for that Rodney?

                                                                            • 2 votes
                                                                            #25.7 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:43 PM EST
                                                                            jbdaad

                                                                            Video results for Traitor hehe

                                                                              #25.8 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:44 PM EST
                                                                              Keav

                                                                              Why do women even care? We look at hot women and watch football. Where's the crime?

                                                                              Women wanna buy shoes and hand bags. We wanna watch hot women and football (and the occasional sports car) We let you do your thing, let us do ours.

                                                                              You sound insanely jealous or bitter.

                                                                              Tell your man to cancel his subscription to Biggun's.

                                                                              • 1 vote
                                                                              #25.9 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:38 PM EST
                                                                              inoubliable

                                                                              i buy shoes and handbags, watch football, drool for an aston martin db7 or classic kharma gia, and pay for lapdances at the local joint for hubby and myself.

                                                                              damn, i'm a weirdo. i didn't know you could only do one or the other. thanks a lot, notaman, i'm going to have to throw out all my car mags and titty mags now!

                                                                              • 4 votes
                                                                              #25.10 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:46 PM EST
                                                                              Bluekilgoretrout

                                                                              Not so fast....

                                                                              • 1 vote
                                                                              #25.11 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:57 PM EST
                                                                              inoubliable

                                                                              yeah, who am i kidding anyway? *shrugs* i'm still going to surf for porn while ordering the newest clutch in cupcake pink from Vera Bradley tonight.

                                                                              • 4 votes
                                                                              #25.12 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:37 PM EST
                                                                              Bluekilgoretrout

                                                                              If only all chicks were this cool:)

                                                                              • 2 votes
                                                                              #25.13 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:45 PM EST
                                                                              Blizzy

                                                                              I guess in general all these male bashers on this board simply need new batteries...

                                                                              • 2 votes
                                                                              #25.14 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:40 PM EST
                                                                              inoubliable

                                                                              lmao

                                                                              and, note to self....pick up batteries....

                                                                              • 3 votes
                                                                              #25.15 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:47 PM EST
                                                                              Jack Huang

                                                                              They will go along with anything as long as a set of breasts are attached.

                                                                              I resemble that remark! I will never "go along" with Margaret Thatcher.

                                                                              i buy shoes and handbags, watch football, drool for an aston martin db7

                                                                              Man, I do the same things, though when I buy handbags, they're called "manpurses."

                                                                              Rawk on the DB7, by the way -- one of the most beautiful automobiles ever created.

                                                                              • 2 votes
                                                                              #25.16 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:49 PM EST
                                                                              inoubliable

                                                                              'manpurses'...hehe.

                                                                              ah, the DB7. crazily enough i was first introduced to it as a fantasy gift in a victoria's secret catalogue. 1997 i think. *sigh* aston martin and yummy lingerie model. mmmm.....

                                                                              • 3 votes
                                                                              #25.17 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:38 PM EST
                                                                              Blizzy

                                                                              Screw the DB7. Give me a Quattroporte S.

                                                                              You take sex and stir in some gasoline and that's what you end up with...a Maserati *gets chills*

                                                                              • 3 votes
                                                                              #25.18 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:07 PM EST
                                                                              Jack Huang

                                                                              You take sex and stir in some gasoline and that's what you end up with...a Maserati *gets chills*

                                                                              That is possibly the worst literal mental image I've had to conjure in a year.

                                                                              Big fan of the Quattroporte, as well, though. But then you're talking about performance-lux four-doors, and in that category, I'm going with the forthcoming Aston Martin Rapide. Pure sex for the whole family. (see? I can paint disturbing mental images, too!)

                                                                              My dream stable, would be anchored by a DB9, an R8, and a Rapide. I'm not big on actually driving the classics. :-)

                                                                              • 2 votes
                                                                              #25.19 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:37 PM EST
                                                                              inoubliable

                                                                              rapide.....yummy! i liked what i saw in 2006 with the concepts. looking forward to seeing it introducted in march at Geneva show.

                                                                              • 2 votes
                                                                              #25.20 - Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:42 PM EST
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                                                                              TERRI-687264

                                                                              Give me Rafael Nadal in the same pose so i can

                                                                              dissapear into my bedroom for about ten minutes

                                                                              grrrrrrrrrrrrr purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

                                                                              when are us girls (ahem..........cougars) going to get a magazine of YOUNG athletic

                                                                              hunks barely clothed so that we can have some good fantasies?

                                                                              Rafael Nadal is the hottest YOUNG athlete on the planet. www.rafaelnadal.com

                                                                              go girls!!!!!!!!!! lets see him almost naked on a cover. Oh yowzaa or girls, go to you tube and type in Rafael Nadal, and ENJOY his videos. Oh his LUCKY girlfriend Xisca................what I wouldn't give to be her for about a hour with him.

                                                                                Reply#26 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:27 PM EST
                                                                                Bluekilgoretrout

                                                                                Terri:

                                                                                Just supply your address and I'm confident all the young studs on Newsvine would be happy to oblige

                                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                                #26.1 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:30 PM EST
                                                                                Southern Bell

                                                                                Terri

                                                                                when are us girls (ahem..........cougars) going to get a magazine of YOUNG athletic

                                                                                I'm 42 currently dating a 30 year old gentleman from the NFL. What could we possibly do with a magazine?? HA HA other than stare! I think Ms Bar is cute but she is skinny and I bet "no junk in her trunk" (that kind of thing can be inhanced on photos). No reason to fear a cover lets see if she is still that perky and unblemished at 42 after a few chilrens!

                                                                                • 1 vote
                                                                                #26.2 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:55 PM EST
                                                                                RachaelMM

                                                                                Terri -- Haven't you seen the David Beckham underwear ads? No? Well, allow me to help you out.

                                                                                  #26.3 - Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:55 PM EST
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