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Newest US troops in dangerous region near Kabul

Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:07 PM EST
world-news, as, afghan, surge, begins
Jason Straziuso, Associated Press

In a , Wednesday, Feb. 11, 2009 photo, U.S. Col. David Haight, right, commander of the 3rd Brigade Combat Team of the 10th Mountain Division, whose soldiers are stationed in Logar and Wardak provinces, speaks as Wardak's chief police Muzafaruddin, second right, Wardak's province Governor Mohammed Halim Fedayi, third right, and Logar's province Governor Atiqullah Ludin are seen during a press conference in Logar province south of Kabul, Afghanistan. Close to 3,000 U.S. troops newly arrived in Afghanistan to secure two increasingly violent provinces on Kabul's door step will see an increase in violence in coming months, the unit's commander says. (AP Photo/Jason Straziuso)

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— Close to 3,000 American soldiers who recently arrived in Afghanistan to secure two violent provinces near Kabul have begun operations in the field and already are seeing combat, the unit's spokesman said Monday.

The new troops are the first wave of an expected surge of reinforcements this year. The process began to take shape under President George Bush but has been given impetus by President Barack Obama's call for an increased focus on Afghanistan.

U.S. commanders have been contemplating sending up to 30,000 more soldiers to bolster the 33,000 already here, but the new administration is expected to initially approve only a portion of that amount. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Monday the president would decide soon.

The new unit — the 3rd Brigade Combat Team of the 10th Mountain Division — moved into Logar and Wardak provinces last month, and the soldiers from Fort Drum, N.Y., are now stationed in combat outposts throughout the provinces.

Militants have attacked several patrols with rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, including one ambush by 30 insurgents, Lt. Col. Steve Osterholzer, the brigade spokesman, said.

Several roadside bombs also have exploded next to the unit's MRAPs — mine-resistance patrol vehicles — but caused no casualties, he said.

"In every case our vehicles returned with overwhelming fire," Osterholzer said. "We have not suffered anything more than a few bruises, while several insurgents have been killed."

Commanders are in the planning stages of larger scale operations expected to be launched in the coming weeks.

Militant activity has spiked in Logar and Wardak over the last year as the resurgent Taliban has spread north toward Kabul from its traditional southern power base. Residents say insurgents roam wide swaths of Wardak, a mountainous province whose capital is about 35 miles from Kabul.

The region has been covered in snow recently, but Col. David B. Haight, commander of the 3rd Brigade, said last week that he expects contact with insurgents to increase soon.

"The weather has made it so the enemy activity is somewhat decreased right now, and I expect it to increase in the next two to three months," Haight said at a news conference.

Haight said he believes the increase of militant activity in the two provinces is not ideologically based but stems from poor Afghans being enticed into fighting by their need for money. Quoting the governor of Logar, the colonel called it an "economic war."

Afghan officials "don't believe it's hardcore al-Qaida operatives that you're never going to convert anyway," Haight said. "They believe that it's the guys who say, 'Hey you want $100 to shoot an RPG at a Humvee when it goes by,' and the guy says, 'Yeah I'll do that, because I've got to feed my family.'"

Still, Haight said there are hardcore fighters in the region, some of them allied with Jalaludin Haqqani and his son Siraj, a fighting family with a long history in Afghanistan. The two militant leaders are believed to be in Pakistan.

A new report from the RAND Corp. think tank argues against that approach. It contends a "game-changing" strategy is urgently needed in Afghanistan that would have the additional troops train Afghan security forces rather than directly confront militants.

"It is unlikely the United States and NATO (on their own) will defeat the Taliban and other insurgent groups in Afghanistan," said the paper, which was being released Tuesday.

Logar Gov. Atiqullah Ludin said at a news conference alongside Haight that U.S. troops will need to improve both security and the economic situation.

"There is a gap between the people and the government," Ludin said. "Assistance in Logar is very weak, and the life of the common man has not improved."

Ludin also urged that U.S. forces be careful and not act on bad intelligence to launch night raids on Afghans who turn out to be innocent.

It is a common complaint from Afghan leaders. President Hamid Karzai has long pleaded with U.S. forces not to kill innocent Afghans during military operations and says he hopes to see night raids curtailed.

Pointing to the value of such operations, the U.S. military said Monday that a raid in northwest Badghis province killed a feared militant leader named Ghulam Dastagir and eight other fighters.

Other raids, though, have killed innocent Afghans who were only defending their village against a nighttime incursion by forces they didn't know, officials say.

"We need to step back and look at those carefully, because the danger they carry is exponential," Ludin said.

Haight cautioned last week that civilian casualties could increase with the presence of his 2,700 soldiers.

"We understand the probability of increased civilian casualties is there because of increased U.S. forces," said the colonel, who has also commanded Special Operations task forces in Afghanistan and Iraq. "Our plan is to do no operations without ANA (Afghan army) and ANP (Afghan police), to help us be more precise."

The U.S. military and Afghan Defense Ministry announced last week that Afghan officers and soldiers would take on a greater role in military operations, including in specialized night raids, with the aim of decreasing civilian deaths.

The presence of U.S. troops in Wardak and Logar is the first time such a large contingent of American power has been so close to Kabul, fueling concerns that militants could be massing for a push at the capital. Haight dismissed those fears.

"Our provinces butt up against the southern boundary of Kabul and therefore there is the perception that Kabul could be surrounded," Haight said. "But the enemy cannot threaten Kabul. He's not big enough, he's not strong enough, he doesn't have the technology. He can conduct attacks but he can't completely disrupt the governance in Kabul."

(This version CORRECTS Corrects spelling to Osterholzer, sted Osterhozer thruout. This item moved previously on a hold-for-release basis and is now available for use.)

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silver163

now to wait until the gop starts screaming "illegal war" and "murderers".

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:46 PM EST
Eric AlbertDeleted
Tyler Durden-330839

Why do I picture Ronald Coleman in a scene, begging for his life??

    Reply#3 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:14 PM EST
    JoulesBeef

    Afghan officials "don't believe it's hardcore al-Qaida operatives that you're never going to convert anyway," Haight said. "They believe that it's the guys who say, 'Hey you want $100 to shoot an RPG at a Humvee when it goes by,' and the guy says, 'Yeah I'll do that, because I've got to feed my family.'"

    people are humans.. for the most part 99.9999% of us want the same thing, food on our table, a safe place to live and someone to share it all with.

    Know what was the turning point of the iraqi war?
    NO NOT THE SURGE.. but happend at arround the same time.
    and yes it was all patreuous
    WITHOUT BUSH"S PERMISSION OR OK.. patereous started to bribe the sunni fighters to stop shooting at us. Costs us about $30 per sunni per week.

    Freaken it doesn't take a brainiac to see that 60% unemployment when their are jobs everywhere beign given by the white guys who invaded your nation to foreigners so they could bypass you local labor laws.. will cause unrest.
    People who work all day and have food in their belly dont have time to play arround with road side explosives.
    A few of these people ARE CRAZY and a few are ultra religious but a clear majority is neither.. just hungry.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#4 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:58 PM EST
    Sgt C USMC

    Joules,

    And if that didn't work...threatening to kill their families if they didn't cooperate was the next best thing.

    Above all , Iraqi people value their families. They will gladly die for them, and they will kill, not just to protect them, but to merely provide for them.

      #4.1 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:38 PM EST
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      asadullahkhan

      situation in afghanistan should not be viewed in isolation.india,pakistan and their strained retations over the yearscannot be lost sight off.kashmir is ofcourse there.india has had democracy throughout since its independent existence whereas the influence structure and deciosion making in pakistan has been with civil and military beaurocracy who in order to keep their hold firm over power have always fanned anti-india feelings and put forward the bogeyof indian aggression whereas it has always beenpakistan(the securityestablishment}which has committed aggressionbe it in 1948,1965 0r1971.uprising inbangla desh was not spontaneous.constituent assembly was unconstitutionallydossplved as early as 1952whose speake tameezuddine was from bengal then bengaly primeminister nazimuddin was unceremoniously dismissed.Bengalis felt insulted.c-in-cayub khan was defence minister incabinet formed after dismissal of nazimuudin who later imposed martial law in the countryand ruled it arbitrarily in which bengalis had no say.so to blame india or the bengalis is unfair.it was the insecurity establishment.they used the popularly elcted prime minister z a bhutto in 1971 and thenassasinated him in implicating infalse murder case.that has been the role of the insecurity establishment.in karzais afghanistan india is playing in important role in building highways and bridges ,that the ssecurity establishment which has long dreamed of strategic depth cannot swallow easily and is inclined to look sympathatically towards the militants who are the children of the mujahideen who fought the soviets and educated in pakistani maderssas.And yes, there has been kargil episode.indias prime minster vajpai remarkedin1999that his bus ditshed in kargil.That is the broad picure for everyone to see.Pakistans fledgling democracy should be supported by all well meaning people........the generals should take orders from the civilians.war is too serious a matter to be left to the generals alone.

        Reply#5 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:59 PM EST
        David Clinton Adkins

        Speaking for a father who spent seven years in the U.S Army and earned two bronze stars at the battle of the bulge; along with myself who spent three years in the U.S Army during the Vietnam war. I must ask everyone to face up to our issues with clear honest and truthful thoughts.
        Why can't we keep our troops out of the middle east, its not because they are big and bad and full of terrorist. We are there because they have lots of oil and if we would get the hell out of there and stay out, their minute men ( terrorists ) wouldn't have a reason to brother the rest of the world and if they did, we would deal with them.
        Think about the importing process of oil, millions of dollars are added on before it gets here by the company's that import it, the government taxes it when it quite favorably when it arrives. Its time for
        "Big American Corporations along with "Our Own Government to get their "Hands" out of the "Worlds Pockets" and start spending overwhelming amounts of money on "Technology for Renewable Energy, not just for America, but for the "Future of the World "
        David Clinton Adkins

        Lafayette, Colorado

        • 1 vote
        Reply#6 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:30 PM EST
        Larry Stevens

        I would hope that there would be enough support for our troops, but they do theirs do the ten general orders ,and whatever other orders that are placed ,if this that we see problems if ours could only try to hold onto their places ,and if one hand scratches another in help ,does another whom do likewaise,they truly or whom could they count on to be by them ,to have a defense at all of our bases is nice please try . to have doing.to attack or have too many problems to go on could be disaster to all of ours .the pen is said to be of a mightier thing .where or whom owes to yours what regions of there or other places at any of our regions are able to be held strong in support of each other. it seems that Russia and Iran are unwilling to work with ours. help of Nato are on our side !!!!! , and does China help N.korea . ??????or whom else of all the world. if pakistan are they coming at ours ????or are they friends ????we have supplied such bucks to many places do they turn those against ours.??????? if you or ours could choose to stand by and be safe and take things slow and be sure that would be good.????? I like the day to even drive about with more visibility.

        honorabilities to be of a helping to our Nation with laurels in one hand to honor those we are able and arrows that are held until we need to defend !!!!!!!!of those we have to of ours or whom we need toHelp ????!!!! I have great respects for our military ,and i want them to know our Country should care and does.... of peoples for the strifes all these battles throughout , we should use diplomatic means are there any avenues to be of doing that could help our places ...,,if you need look to yourselves first please do that ....make a stand if you are able and hold your places at your best ability ,

        i am and have been giving thanks to my Higher powers . for my Country, and have great hopes our troops could be of a strong force that is safe for theirs and whom they are able to help and vice versa for them. to have help find out what works for thee and those around you,,... if it works don't fix , not an eye for an eye ,,,...for ours but do the things that are helpful for yours and those around thee... you care about and whom do thee realy trust ,

        a strong defense could help at our places ,,until prevoked then use an offense you need to also just enough that is needed ... more than that could be bad do not kill innocents I ask...???!!!! if possible supply and demand ours !!! in the day.??!!!with our needs ,two minus signals that are adressed to each other will only make a positve charge in electricity not so well with people,

        two positive make a positive charge also I am told in people and electricity , The UN is seeming to be weak of a nature do they do as they say or any others...the russians do not agree with us ,???..!!!!whom does our Country and ally trust ???!!!I would ask our great leaders that draw the lines ??!!and try to keep them strong help at yours, and those you need to.help them..

        if we ours , yours, or ours ,to yours ,help at a lot of these places is there ever going to be some help back to where ??????? to your places or where needed ?????try to think ,plan ,problem solve ,get your top heads think tanks . doing on what they are able and whom could they trust to immplement the tasks neccesary to follow through ????? if able or whom would does this need to doing.????back to our # original 13 colonial days . go in patrols not alone , is this like needing guerrilla type strategies,,, a many of small things do add up our friends at any of our nations whom we stand together.... and ours do need to support each other too ???? if able <<???? I do care do thee.i????i think so ...any of these places if they do fire a terrible missile at each other they may not stop but I have faced a gun barrel before and backed tham down saying how is prison to them ????we don't need that,,,????? the pen I say is mighty,,,???we are not in a cowboy era ?????we are the industry era??? and computer era ,we need diplomacy, we need to slow down don't work to fast, pace yourselves ...I am trying to say that safety comes first for thee . and be kind to those around thee if possible. where you all go what thee all do is your decision,,,, the future is in your hands , God blessings to ours ,.,.,and allies ,,as I am to ...able good luck , from L.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#7 - Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:46 PM EST
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